Right to Privacy is an emotional argument. You don't like the FEELING of being spied on, you don't like the FEELING of not having privacy, you don't like the FEELING of having the government, others, etc of knowing things about you you don't want them to know.
This is all emotional arguments and in my opinion so stupid. Why on earth should your emotional desire aka feeling to have privacy trump the safety of others. Why shouldn't the government be allowed to monitor your internet usage, put cameras in your house, and spy on you without a warrant. What is the reason?
Everything is an emotional argument when you get to the core of it. Why do we fight over what economic policy to implement? Because we believe the results of said policy will make us feel better. Why do we fight over social customs? Because the resulting society will make us feel better.
Your argument is void of any meaning.
Angel Garcia
>Right to Privacy is an emotional argument.
No, not it isn't. Right to privacy is directly related to freedom from the presumption of guilt. It's logical, not emotional.
Jeremiah Garcia
Because the government consists of people. Let's say you have wronged somebody and they happen to work for or know somebody who works for a 3 letter agency. They could abuse that power and black mail you.
They could also get dirt on people to sway votes or blackmail. The government is just made up of people, and people do fucked up things.
Nicholas Ramirez
You're actually right. There ideally should be no right to privacy but we need privacy. Why? Because we can't trust that the government will remain moral, errgo we will need privacy should we ever need to overthrow them. Same reason we have the right to freedom of speech and the right to assemble and the right to bare arms. The constitution wasn't written on a whim my dude, it's to prevent tyranny by anyone other than the majority.
Parker Robinson
you don't like the feeling of being stabbed in the stomach repeatedly either I guess that's just an emotional argument
Andrew Green
>abuse of power How? If everything you do is publicised there can be no shady things going on
No what you're saying bullshit. I'm not suggesting anyones guilty of anyone, im saying there should be no law preventing the government from looking at everything that person does. It could be for any reason
I'm saying everything you do should be public, there can be no blackmail if everything is publicised
Nicholas Butler
I hope you get killed and raped by muslimes in your shitty rainy country bongfag
Grayson Ramirez
Read animal farm my goy. You're a fool if you think we'd be held to the same standard as the people running the show. Our information would be easily accessible, theirs would remain private. One standard for you, one standard for the folks in power. Just look at the Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal if you think "well it can't happen in murica"
You might not have a problem with it, but then again lots of people like to live on their knees.
Justin Jenkins
it exists because our forefathers where real men.
it will cease to exist soon, because we are not
Jackson Stewart
I would not mind being spied on by the government if I had the reciprocal right and/or ability to spy back to the same degree.
Brayden Miller
Don't have any
Isaac Flores
because elites don't want poor to squat on their land and peak into windows of their mansions
Christopher Walker
How can we believe that if you don't post your browsing history to prove it?
Julian Anderson
Literally a guy in the US Gov't Used the powers he had to spy on his Ex- GF. Humans run the government, they're not perfect, and that much power can get idiots a rush, If you give them an inch, they will take a mile. besides, the point of privacy was not simply emotional drive for privacy, but a bigger part of Freedom of Speech and Idea; whereby if you are free to think and say what you want you should also deserve the privacy to not feel pressured to censor yourself, at the very least from the Gov't. Without privacy, if I was scared of the government and wanted to speak about it or discuss it, I would never feel safe to do so, even if in actuality the government wouldn't do anything about my criticisms. People self sensor when they feel they aren't safe from repercussions for their thoughts, that's why universities now suck so much. besides, humans are imperfect, and a government with that much power will inevitably try to take some control to weed out what they don't like in society; Whose interest do you think that social construction-ism (however Orwellian it already is) would be suited towards, yours or the govt's?
Christian Harris
Knowledge is power.
Your argument boils down to "might makes right."
Well you can just get rid of all laws and achieve the same effect, dumb fuck.
Caleb Morales
Because of additional autistic laws that would be in place
Say other laws are Anti piracy Anti Porn Anti racism anti anti-government
They know eveyrhting if they spy on you so you cannot even say anything anymore without them knowing
"I think we should get rid of niggers" is a one way trip to prison.
the power will be abused to imprison people over absolutely fucking nothing
Thomas Taylor
>tl;dr I have no idea what the Hawthorne Effect does to society
fucking retard OP
Luis Wood
Kek
No I dont
Tyler Bell
For even entertaining thoughts like this you should be lobotomized. You are a fucking fascist
Chase Davis
t. beta cuck who wants big daddy government to take control of his life and doesn't understand that some people want to live their own lives
Xavier Howard
This Op post your browsing history and IP address now
Jayden Johnson
The government already causes more harm than good, no reason to give them even more power over our lives.
Charles Phillips
t. Erich Mielke
Levi Rivera
"if everything you do is publicised there can be no shady things going on" Someone needs to look at the injustice of the mob - You don't need the government to do the injustice when all things are publicised, people will do it for them. Its the 1920s and the fact that you are gay is publicised, enjoy the shock therapy if the temperance zealots don't get you. Its Now and in Saudi Arabia and you are publicised as an atheist, enjoy the fall from the rooftop my friend, do a flip for me. Its now in a Canadian/american university and it comes out that you think penis=man and vagina=woman, enjoy the social zeitgeist. Crowds can be just as monstrous or worse than any government.
Luke Perez
That's a good way to make people mad; a counter-intuitive procedure when you're a government setting up rules to prevent people from going ape-shit at each other and yourselves
Christian Gray
And let degeneracy fly eh? We need a fascist revolution here in the USA.
Gabriel Phillips
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Luis Miller
>And let degeneracy fly Of course not, but degeneracy is already self-destructive. When they are not being subsidized by a welfare state, degenerates fall into the bottom of the societal hierarchy where they belong.
Nathan Ortiz
Right to security is an emotional argument. You don't like the FEELING of being shot, you don't like the FEELING of dying, you don't like the FEELING of having the niggers, others, etc of killing you you don't want them to kill you.
This is all emotional arguments and in my opinion so stupid. Why on earth should your emotional desire aka feeling to have life trump the feelings of niggers? Why shouldn't the government be allowed toshoot you, pburn down your house, and set fire to your family without a warrant. What is the reason?
Ryan Nelson
The state of Connecticut (no pun intended) literally proves otherwise. Social degenerates are at the top in Connecticut. The richest county (Fairfield) is a bastion of wealth. Yet it is the underage weed capital.
Owen Bailey
It's not bullshit, you just don't want to believe it. Right to privacy is DIRECTLY tied to presumption of guilt or innocence. There is no reason to watch someone unless you feel like they could eventually commit a crime. You might be "safer" but you certainly have no freedom at that point. Rational, not emotional.
Jaxson Hill
The only people that deserve to be spied on all day every day are public "servants" like politicians, police, and military. Our taxes shouldn't pay for secret meetings, agendas, and corruption, and it shouldn't pay for (((them))) to spy on us instead.
William Lee
It could be curiosity. Maybe people want to know more about what others do in the privacy of their home? I imagined a world where mind reading becam possible and everyone had their thoughts made public on the internet for anyone to see ever. How great would that be?
Elijah Cox
Lack of privacy changes the way we behave, as well as the way we think and perceive the world. It's not only about knowing that someone is watching you; it's about knowing that someone could be watching you at any given time. Those round cameras we see in the ceiling don't inform us whether someone is looking through the lens. But someone could be at any given time. This makes the surveillance effect constant without requiring many resources.
If you're interested about this type of thing, you should read the chapter about Panopticon in Michel Foucault's Surveillance and Punishment (surveiller et punir) - it's quite short but illuminates this point very well. In all honesty Foucault was a postmodernist nutter but this is one the things he really got right. Being spied on changes people. It makes them easier to control.
Aiden Fisher
So surveillance is a good thing
Parker Ortiz
It's only logically consistent if citizens have every right to do the same to the government.
But somehow I get the feeling the government's "feelings" are suddenly more important, amirite leftist?
Cameron Brooks
>Maybe people want to know more about what others do in the privacy of their home
Mhmmmmm... are you saying they could... quite possibly... do something illegal?
The Fourth Amendment of the United States actually originates from British tax collectors busting into homes of random people back in the colonial days. While searches were authorized, they were by an over-general warrant that allowed the collectors to search almost anyone.
Jaxon Turner
you could provide yourself ultimate safety by locking yourself in a padded cell. All you have to do is convince everyone you're crazy.
When you get yourself locked in that cell you are going to have as many rights as you are advocating society have anyway. Go for it.
No privacy, no freedom of movement, no right to expression, no right to see the free expression of others, no right to bear arms.
you're so aspirational. so brave. totally safe. go for it.
Grayson Rogers
If it wasn't a right, only the rich would have privacy. Shady shit would still go down.
Hudson Hughes
if you are so against privacy why hide your flag? even better, why not just post your facebook here?
you underaged degenerate faggot
Jose Gomez
It's good for controlling, yes. Morally good? That depends. Maybe your current government / authority figures won't abuse this tool, and maybe the next ones won't either. This is more about whether we should allow them to have it or not. We've seen plenty of examples in history of where such tools were used to uphold totalitarian genocidal regimes. Back in East Germany, one third of the population were informants. You couldn't trust anyone you met on the street. You might get black-bagged any day. Of course these phenomena are gone in the majority of the world but they can come back, and it'll be even more effective due to modern technology.
Zachary Hill
My parents grew up in Commie Poland. Absolute hell to live in in the later years, my mom used to say how nobody talked at bus stops in the 80s because you couldn't know if the man or woman 5 feet away or walking down the street was an informant or secret police. If the secret police heard you say something they didn't like, they might think you're one of the dissenters, or just that you might become one, and from there it was just one short night raid. Neighbours would shut the shutters and bar the doors. When the morning came everyone would pretend like nothing had happened. No questions asked. You were never there, and if anyone felt like chatting about how you were there, they might get a nighttime visit too.
Brandon Bennett
>This is all emotional arguments and in my opinion so stupid thats fine, I'm the government and I'm putting you on my communist list
in case I need dead commies I can always come kill you
hope you enjoyed allowing the government to keep lists of people game
Hunter Morgan
the ultimate panopticon effect
Carter Carter
That's the thing, countries like Poland have seen both sides of this totalitarian pendulum. Never underestimate how bad things can get.
Jose Anderson
>Those round cameras we see in the ceiling don't inform us whether someone is looking through the lens most of them don't even have a camera inside just a little red led
Leo Cooper
do you have the right not to be brutally fucked in the arse by me? why? just because you dont like the feeling of me tearing up your boy hole doesnt mean you get to say no to it
Grayson Martinez
>Why shouldn't the government be allowed to monitor your internet usage, put cameras in your house, and spy on you without a warrant. What is the reason?
no such government will have my allegiance.
Colton Thompson
You have no right to spy on other people without big reason to do so. Government is formed essentially by you giving up some of your rights to it. If you don't have this right, government doesn't have it neither