WAS HE ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS????

I want to know. I want this question front and center. Let's find out.

Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, of New Braunfels, a suburb of San Antonio.

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Do you guys see the JIDF shilling?

This is just like paddock.

They're spamming a patsy's face all over this board to stop us from looking at the bigger picture.

2 masked men were doing the shooting inside. This kid is a patsy.

This was another Jewish gun grab move. It was Israel once again.

The shills on this board right now are all jewish.


FUCK YOU JEW

Likely.
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"Depending on how you analyze the raw data, being on an antidepressant makes you 500% to 1000% more likely to kill yourself and others." - Peter R. Breggin, MD, before congress, about information he obtained through congressional order from large pharmaceutical companies like Lilly.

>be depressed
>kill people in a deranged "revenge" because you feel the world has mistreated you
>take anti-depressants
>kill people because your mind has been fucked with sketchy drugs

Yea, feels bad man.

Was he prescripted venlafaxine and he had maniac episodes?

The anti-depressant angle is very real.

t. former psychiatrist

In fact, this issue is what cause me to leave the field.

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Forgotten Languages mind control

Fucking kill yourself.

MASS MURDER PILLS
EVERY TIME

Honestly, the evidence suggests that he was very angry about being so white. This impaired his performance in the military and seems to have stopped him from being able to be anything other than retarded.
Have you thought hard enough about his whiteness, OP? He sounds like an incredibly white person. I'm willing to bet a hundred bitcoins that he owned a confederate flag too.

His face screams this: youtube.com/watch?v=RPfx_jFZQuI

say it with me: radical incel terrorism

I am just fine with the whole alive thing.
Why the hate bro?

We have no way to confirm he was conditioned, even with the chemical angle.

Most likely he quit cold turkey, that's when you notice the real side effects of antidepresants.

The media always ignores this question, always. We need to force it into the mainstream.

>The shills on this board right now are all jewish.
They're Putin bots hoping to get Americans to turn against each other. Demoralize and destabilize has been the Kremlin's grand plan for decades. Right Yuri?

depends on the anti-depressant but most are a disaster and shouldn't be allowed to be prescribed
the only SSRI that has a good reputation and no history of problems is the Lundbeck made
>Escitalopram
inb4 omg citalopram
no
>ESCITALOPRAM
they're pretty expensive though but pretty much no side effects as it's very selective
t. psychiatrist

>people on antidepressants are more likely to shoot people at random
>therefore antidepressants cause people who use them to shoot others at random

This is what's called a causation flaw, class. It's very easy to destroy. Simply provide an alternative cause for the stated effect or a first cause that will account both for the second cause and the stated effect. In this case, we'll use the second approach. Mentally unstable people use antidepressants, and those who shoot others at random are mentally unstable. So the mental instability both causes the antidepressant use and the shooting.

>pic related
weird enough, the cheaper versions that use different binding material have less effect and a higher likeliness of side effects according to a recent study from the university of frankfurt

Well considering that we were lied to about the "black box" warning on the previous ones, whose studies and evidence about the safety of Escitalopram are you going to trust? How long has it been out? Is that a new enanteomeric compound?

Just watch the video and evaluate the speaker and the evidence he provides. The results accounted for confounding factors.

Actually, in the video I provided it was the German equivalent of the FDA (food and drug administration) that first started noticing the abnormally high suicide/homicides.

Also, I son't think the selectivity of the compound has much to do with the suicidal/homicidal idealization so common on these drugs. I think it is either a slow-metabolism issue that results in spikes of serotonin (like an LSD trip), or something with the primary action on the prefrontal cortex that all SSRI's have. Selectivity might mitigate other side effects, but I am talking about akathesia.

i trust european studies more than american ones because the systems here are more careful as to what they allow and recommend
>oxycodone was taken off the market a long time ago f.e.
the must trustworthy ones are from germany, austria, switzerland and scandinavian countries as well as belgium but in general i'd stay away from huge pharma companies and stick to the smaller mostly european-based ones
lobbying is extremely shunned over here, especially when it comes to studies
also as a psychiatrist i should add that doctors here can't just prescribe anything so easily, including anti depressants, you'd end up in jail here if you get a patient hooked on an opioid

>i trust european studies more than american ones because the systems here are more careful as to what they allow and recommend

So do I.

>lobbying is extremely shunned over here, especially when it comes to studies

Should be the same in America. It is literally why I left the field of psychiatry for another field.

>doctors here can't just prescribe anything so easily, including anti depressants

Meanwhile in America a GP can prescribe anti-depressants like candy. SSRI's in my opinion are extremely addictive, especially venlafaxine, but they sanitize the panic attacks, sweats and agitation when you withdrawal from them as SSRI discontinuation "syndrome." I have seen crack addicts act less agitated than patients withdrawaling from venlafaxine...

when you prescribe some anti-depressant to someone who is psychotic f.e. you have to explain that before court if the psychotic person ends up going nuts because of the prescribed anti-depressant
what i heard from american psychology students who come to the frankfurt university as well as visiting doctors from the USA is that:
>"in the US you can get any kind of anti-depressant when you go to a doctor and say you're said or anxious"
>"in germany patients have to go through several in-depth tests before getting an SSRI"
>"MAO-inhibitors are never prescribed here with you guys while in the US they're still popular"
>"getting benzodiazepines is easy in the US"
and much more, this is also why overdose deaths are nearly in-existant here from prescribed medication
Regarding Escitalopram:
>prescribed it to 13 patients of mine so far who are between the age of 18-28
>only complaints were that they gained about 5kg of weight and in the beginning were very tired which subsided after 3 weeks

>excerpt from "Behold a Pale Horse"
>published in 1991
>read author's note
>shit bricks

>Escitalopram
Which receptors does it hammer on? Serotonin only?

Does it cause any of the akathesia that is common to the other SSRI's? Black box labeling about suicidal/homicidal ideation?

When you read about the (((Sackler))) family and oxycodone it's astonishing how they managed to keep european studies of the addictiveness of oxycodone out of papers, journals etc.
Oxycodone was already used here during WW2 and even during WW2 there were strict guidelines for giving oxycodone to soldiers:
>not longer than for 2 days
>needed a special order from the military pharmacy
>maximum a Wehrmacht, Waffen SS etc. doctor was allowed to order per 30 days was 1 roll (10 tablets)

Tens of millions of Americans are on the Jew pill

only serotonine but instead of acting on receptors all over the place like most SSRIs it only acts on the once needed
I also just checked regarding the price, no idea about US but here you can also get the original Lundbeck ones as
>"re-import" which makes them cheaper
not re-import = 102 euros if uninsured
re-import = 28 euros

regarding my patients i forgot to mention what their issues were that ended up getting better or vanishing completly:
>OCD
>random feelings of anxiety for no reason
>dysthymia

I will keep this in mind. Thanks for the info! Does it have the sexual side effects common to the other SSRI's? That was a big problem for my male patients on those medications. I had to switch them to bupropion or mirtazapine all the time because it was wrecking their marriages.

>oxycodone
And now here we have a president who is declaring war on this crisis... I blame big-pharma and their influence on pain specialists. Even their influence on Washington is staggering. Obama-care was essentially a bailout of big-pharma and insurance companies.

regarding the usage of oxycodone in WW2
the dangers of it being very addictive have been already known in Europe and especially Germany/Austria which makes me still wonder how much the Sackler family paid to keep people away from that information
If it was already known as dangerous in the 1930s/1940s in germany, the country that discovered oxycodone, how come it was seen as okay in the USA even until the early 2000s?
>pic related: Eukodal in the background is oxycodone, part of pharmacy museums now while still prescribed like candy in the US

Leave it up to those brilliant German I.G. Farben chemists to come up with something better than morphine when the opium from India was stopped by the Allies... If I recall, methamphetamine was also one of their inventions.

Stop larping faggot.

Is this commonly used in America? Everyone gets this in Canada. It's pretty much a starter pack for muh anxiety muh depression. I take it with a combination of other meds and have no side effects and none of the straight jacket brain feelings Effexor gave me.

This is definitely the case but I'm confused. Putin is secretly commie?

this is the most dangerous meme. WTF is your problem. I know plenty of people who's lives have improved by taking meds.

for my patients who started of with 5mg and upped it slowly to 20mg each evening, they had no libido killing effect, some of them (mostly the female ones) claim to have a better libido because their OCD and anxiety issues have almost completly vanished after 2 months after starting Escitalopram
another thing that's good about escitalopram is that it works up to 48hours and the worst side effects if you forget or stop taking it are some mild perception issues, what i mean by that is that if you stopped taking it and get up from a resting position and turn 180°, it will seem slower for your eyes to fixate on an object, about 2 seconds delay
and that's the worst we heard so far from people who stopped it after 2 years (to check if the anxiety, OCD, dysthymia comes back)
the perception delay is still in the "okay" area regarding driving
>that's all from my and colleagues experiences and tests though as we currently work on another study in which we try to show how obsolete Citalopram is in comparison to Escitalopram

pill shill

Good to see that Canada is prescribing this and just like my patients, that you have no side effects
but out of curiosity, did you ever skip Escitalopram for 2-3 days and had the same side effect i describe here:
also do you take the Lundbeck brand or another one?
In our studies we found out that several generic escitalopram versions that have talcum as a binder are not as well absorbed by the serotonine receptors in the tummy

what the fuck - more info??????????

>I want this question front and center.
Nice try shill

>Meds
>Impoved lives
I've seen first hand on what it does to teens when I went to school fuck that

Yes, and the small amount of methamphetamine given to ww2 pilots f.e. with the legal methamphetamine you can apparently get in the USA if you have attention issues
it's also no wonder that there is a problem with prescribed amphetamines in the USA
>pic related: 1 tablet dosage of methamphetamine given to german bomber pilots = 0,003mg
>USA: Desoxyn (though sustained release) = 5mg per tablet
no wonder it gets abused

He was a self hating Antifa/Pedo

SHE MUST HAVE DIED??

Take Lsd shoot a bunch of people honestly plausible.

info oh mah gawd

see my posts, the problem is how easy teenagers and young people get anything in the USA, whether amphetamines, opioids or anti-depressants.
Also the vast majority of anti-depressants that are heavily prescribed in the USA are trash and have too many side effects, i assume things like Effexor, Zoloft and other bad ones are so common in the USA because your pharmaceutical lobbying has too many freedoms

you can't compare different drugs by weight like that. you think the sustained release action happens by magic? no, it's the bulk of the weight.

0.003 g not 0.003mg

decimal places are delineated by periods, not commas. we have been over this. you people are supposed to be smart.

it's not weight, it's the amount of methamphetamine in each tablet
>it's g not mg
thanks for pointing that out, obviously i can read the Pervitin label but it's 4 am here so i'll blame the time instead
My point still stands
>Pervitin = 3mg methamphetamine per tablet during WW2
>strictly controlled and a pilot was not allowed to take more than one per week
now compare that to desoxyn and what US doctors recommend to take per day to kids with attention problems, not bomber pilots who have to stay awake and alert for over 24h

Thot status
PATROLLED

Ya I made that post before opening the thread I remember the first time I went to my counselor she immediately recommended antidepressants because I had family issues

Yeah huge question OP. There should be a hair analysis on all these mass murderers . But, they won’t because then we can figure out which ones are MKUltra

JOE BAH GAWD

>Most likely he quit cold turkey, that's when
UNDERRATED

I think I miss my medication 1-2 days quite often because I have way too much left over sometimes so I've opted to have them blister packed starting next month. I actually do have vision issues that came on pretty suddenly but I thought they were from the topamax. I started taking both around the same time. Before I changed medications I had nearly perfect vision and now I can barely see sometimes (everything becomes very blurry unless it is directly Infront of my face 30cm or less away). This comes and goes depending on the day. I take 30mg of the brand Cipralex. For the purposes of this thread I will admit that I am female if it provides medical relevance as I think you mentioned a difference in female patients. I am also treated for OCD which has always been my most significant problem as well as bipolar disorder and anxiety. My ocd symptoms have no disappeared but they are drastically reduced.

source pls

I had MDD since puberty all the way till age 27 when I started my first SSRI (escitalopram). Changed my life.

As for the guy asking, I'd definitely say it lowers sex drive. But in my case that was a bonus because I wasn't getting any anyway.

he was worse
>a failing marriage

>/pol says shooting is a distraction
>/pol spend the next weeks looking for nonexistent clues to shooting

that's good to hear that your OCD symptoms have been drastically reduced, same for my OCD patients, regarding vision issues, we only observed them coming up 48h+ after the last dose and none of my or colleagues patients take 30mg Cipralex but max 20mg.
Obviously i can't tell or judge if you need 30mg but since when are you on 30mg and did you start with 30mg? or slowly went up when starting Cipralex?
If you have the vision issues everyday, no matter if you skipped a dose or not, then this is most likely because your body has not gotten used to the 30mg yet or more likely, if you have it no matter if you skipped Cipralex or not:
>Topiramate
Though i have no experience with Topiramate as the only anti-convulsant i ever prescribed and have experience with is Pregabalin which at a certain dose also causes issues with vision and perception.
Anyhow, good to read that you have an improvement with OCD symptoms, my female patients who take 20mg Cipralex all still have a few little OCD ticks here and there and according to them it constantly improved and only stopped further improving after 1 year on Cipralex.
So if you don't take it for 1 year yet, it might get even better

fucking kek

I've been on cipralex for 3 years now and it's been fantastic, but lately I've been feeling someone emotionally dead/numb and it's taking a toll on me.

Is this the sort of thing that needs to be gradually increased in dosage over time or cycled in order to maintain its efficacy?

Citalopram made me violently sick. Wellbutrin worked

I took 10mg Sertraline (Canadian brand of zoloft i think), it made me feel like absolute fucking shit. Constantly fatigued, lower libido, inability to orgasm and complete emotional numbness. The only side effect that has gone away after quitting them is the inability to orgasm. But even then it is still harder to orgasm than it was before taking them. Seriously the constant fatigue has sucked my will to live. I quit them cold turkey stupidly because the program i was in from the ER only last about 3 months and then i had to get the prescriptions from somewhere else.

Really do not know what to do about it, it made my anxiety better like making some with tinnitus deaf. Now they cannot hear anything, likewise i can't really feel anything, everything is muted and hard to interpret. Instead it has just made me fall into a depression spiral where before i had really bad anxiety about everything, driving, talking to people etc. I still have some of that but before it was to a very basic extent not being able start simple conversations like asking for help in a store etc.

Anxiety is still there though, if it is a big enough event it is still bad as fuck. Honestly when it gets really bad feels like i am in Catatonia just writhing in agony trying to get to sleep as it all haunts me. Sleeping is a pain in the ass and when i do get to sleep for a good amount of time i just feel like shit anyways.

In our experience and studies 20mg is usually "enough" regarding the work it does on receptors, that doesn't mean it's universal but regarding emotional numbness, it might be worth a try lowering it to 25mg for 2 weeks and then 20mg, then wait a couple of weeks and see if things got better. I never had someone who felt emotionally numb from Escitalopram, but then again, my patients all take max 20mg, maybe it has something to do with it, you have to know for yourself if you want to try to lower it to 20. The OCD shouldn't get worse as long as you don't go below 20mg (at least that's the way with my female patients).
Now i'm not sure about Topiramate as this could also have an effect on emotions. Check with your doctor if he/she recommends trying 20mg instead, tell them 20mg is the max in Germany/Austria/Switzerland as it is considered "can't get more effective once over 20mg". At least that's the general consensus here with our experiences in these 3 countries.
Hope i could help

throw your pills

eat healthy

do exercise

don't be a bitch

improve

correct your spine

What's your experience/opinion with paroxetine and vortioxetine? and if bad why?

Read my posts in this thread and the responses from others in here, might be worth a try for you, and yes stay the hell away from Sertraline, Effexor etc.

Yeah i have been reading your posts thanks, but yeah too late to stay away from it now. Permanently affected by it.

Forgot to mention I'm not the same guy you w re talking to. I'm only on 10mg.

Don't mind him, hes on anti-depressants.

found sause: youtube.com/watch?v=Yn9n5njv0hg

yep, she dead.

Sadly no experience with this one at all, if it works well for you with acceptable side effects, it's good, but just like most others this one looks like to have many side effects and over here it's only recommended for people who have sleep issues as it apparently has astrong sleepiness effect.
If it's your first time, i'd try Escitalopram, in german-language studies here in Europe it's considered the only SSRI that will be pushed to be the first choice for OCD, anxiety issues and dysthymia because unlike many other SSRI's, when someone starts out with Escitalopram going slowly up from 5mg to 20mg over 2 months, the patient won't be terrified of SSRI's.
We often experienced that patients who start out with Fluoxetine, Sertraline or others, that the side effects made them more likely to give up and become more anxious to try something else, which in turn of course makes their symptoms even worse after a bad experience with a SSRI.
Hope i could help

Oh, haha well it's late here, sorry about mixing it up with the other canadian.

I'm on 20mg esciltalopram and I keep losing GFs because apparently I'm emotionally a zombie. I never get really happy and I never get really sad. Just the same every day.

Youre not allowed to know that. Hipa violations and all.

KELLEY WAS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT
KELLEY WAS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT
KELLEY WAS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT
KELLEY WAS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT

But why would you be on psych meds if you didn't already want to kill yourself or others?

You are if he's dead I think. How can a dead person have a right to privacy?

exactly. this antidepressant - mass shooter correlation is retarded and useless. antidepressants aren't great, but obviously people seeking mental health interventions are more likely to behave mentally ill (mass shooting)

I don't know if there is a scale of how severe OCD can be but my life was never really manageable without medication and even with medication is only manageable so long as I keep a schedule and still have a bit of help. Sometimes having a schedule can be my undoing if there is too much stress. OCD is like a mandatory religion to me and I imagine many of us who have it, I don't know if people who don't experience it could understand.
I started with 5mg instead of 10mg (they should not give mental health patients the warning pamphlets until after they take the medication lol) I worked my way up to 30 over the two years and have been on a regular dose for another couple years or so I sometimes go down to 20mg if I become manic.
Thanks for all your replies

why do they gain weight? i really need help, terrible OCD and have failed every treatment, but need something while im waiting for possible DBS procedure. I am terrified of losing muscle or storing more fat

I hope you get well soon user, ocd is fucking ruthless, I empathize. I gained over 100lbs when I was put on Effexor and when I switched to Cipralex and other meds I was suddenly able to just get up one day and start working out again and lost it all.

Yes

1 in 6 people are on it. Now imagine the ratio for people taking non-prescribed psychotropics and the people taking prescribed psychotropics with non-prescribed. You can't really know anything about a ride that doesn't stop.

thank you mate. good luck to you also

>tfw the ride is never going to end

Honestly a terrible feeling, just knowing that if your plain of thinking was just a bit different it would be so much better. My whole life feels like i am in a shitbox diesel jetta with 400k km on it with a slipping clutch and everyone just tells me to just drive and move. But i can't, my clutch is fucked and the more i try the worse it gets. Everyone drives by with maybe quarter tanks, half tanks and even full tanks but they are still moving.

I just want to move man.

He's white what do you think?

#ItsOkayToBeWhite

Has anyone been successful in treating OCD without medication?
I want to try Escitalopram but I'm afraid. I had a horrible experience with clomipramine and I'm pretty sure my cognitive capabilities and my dick have never been the same since quitting.
I try so fucking hard to do life without meds to no avail. OCD is too debilitating and crippling.