It's not that hard

Just pick it up and start reading. Start with the New Testament. Read the books in order until you circle back around. Earsestly commit yourself to seeking the Truth. Pledge to accept the truth even though you may not like it. If you come accross something you don't understand, don't let that stop you from reading. Persevere.

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but why should I start reading as someone with no interest in becoming religious?

interest in becoming a good person, to live a beautiful happy life. it will prove itself, there is no ritual to it.

Just read Ecclesiastes, it tells about salomons and his empty life, which he tried to fill every know source of desire(be it thousands of women, drugs, knowledge), none made him truly happy, only empty.

Just to see how it will affect you. Eliminate all prejudice in your mind about what you might already assume. I once had some one explain to me there is a difference between being prejudice and being bias. Prejudice is forming an opinion for no rational reason. Being bias is forming an opionion based on some established good reason. If nothing else, read to form a bias one way or another, but don't go your whole life with only nothing but a prejudice.

Have you read the Quran or the Talmud, what about the Vedas?

Yahweh is a volcanic demon

Ritual? Like the transubstantiation Eucharist, The "Do Penance" doctrine?

There is no power or truth in ritual. Going to church, reading the bible, fasting, etc. are all good things, but they in and of themselves posses no moral virtue or power. Furthermore, If those things are done by one who places his faith in the wrong object, then they are nothing more than powerless rituals like you said.

But what about power. I'm talking about miraculous power. Power that gives life, heals the sick, and raises the dead. Such is given to all who place their faith on the work that was done on the cross: Man's sin atoned for because of the shed blood of the spotless lamb who is God's son. When we pray, the things in the book of Acts are supposed to happen. The natural world and the spirit all have to bend to God's will.

That is where the new age guru's lie to us. They tell us bending reality is attainable, but in ourselves according to our own wills can never do such a thing. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater like so many athiests and deny that reality-bending power exists. It just has it's proper place.

But the church world today has largely forsaked the reality of the simple Word of God and added extraneous doctrines; they've become accustomed to dry and dab rituals. That's why people aren't being convinced of God's existence. Why should they be with the majority of his so-called follers acting like that?

When we pray and worship the Lord according to our faith being placed in the right object and hope of the proper Theology (not religion), then logic itself has to cease working, and dead are raised, the red sea is parted, the dumb talk, the lame walk. Again this power is not according to our will, but it is granted when we conform our own wills to God's. That is what ticks alot of people off; thus, they will settle on dry religious rituals with now power and profess to know God, or they will forsake the notion of God all together.

My personal philosophy tells me not to trust anyone or anything without a significant amount of tangible evidence.

>sandnigger and hindu nuffin books
I wonder why the countries where those other religions dominate are such shitholes.

You are just passive moslem fuck off

Understandable; would you say the soul doesn't exist?

Militant atheist detected. You realize Christianity and Platonism go hand in hand right? Even if you don't take it literally, it's still sound philosophy. That's actually what the entire book is.

I left my personal bible in my second home & now I'm stuck with a weird Porto Rican bible
Also
>anybody noticed all the hate Christians are getting after the church shooting?
>people are showing there true colors
>if it was a synagogue or a Islamic church, everyone would be tripping on themselves to virtual signal

Wesley Crusher from Star Trek TNG, taking the time to shit on christians as only a Jew can.

Nothing like taking a tragedy for christians and using it to celebrate screaming that christian values and teachings are worthless like the kike he is who is using his sneaky subversive language to condemn the entire institution of Christianity.

Some brave anons, please call this Jew out on twitter for shitting on christian values and teaching.

twitter.com/wilw/status/927284357609353218

I would say a connection or a force vaguely resembling a soul that is nowhere close to being understood/proven potentially exists.

Such Texts describe either philosophy or erroneous theology. Now you must understand that in terms of truth, it is found in theology. Denying the notion of theology altogether is the folly of the atheist. But, going futher, it must be understadad that there would exist counterfit versions of this thing called "theology" to sway people away from the correct version. Such false theologies are found in the other texts.

>Not sure if Gnostic or Scientologist

How do you know this is erroneous theology if you haven't read it? You're more or less using the exact excuse an atheist uses for not reading the bible. If you just don't want to put the effort into reading other religious texts/philosophies then just say so. That's my excuse for not reading the bible and I'm entirely okay with it.

He's not Jewish.

>actual Christians on Sup Forums

I know it's changed a lot from 10 years ago, but seriously, what the fuck happened

No don't misunderstand. I have nothing against reading other texts to reafirm or destroy biases! SeeThat is what I'm saying you should do! Chris White is an excellent Christian apologist who does this very thing with Islamic eschatology. He studies the Quaran in depth in order to refute it and clarify errouneous assumptions of the masses.

youtu.be/sOULuQdve-M

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Confirmed for being a filthy rat kike.

I've read the entire thing about 4 times. Several sections hundreds of times. Know what I figured out?

The parts in red text? Those are the only parts that matter. Take it from someone that spent nearly 25 years exhuming the 3-4 hidden meanings of almost every sentence. The parts in red are all that matter.

I'll just read this instead.

>It's not that hard
>the Truth
>Start with the New Testament

Why do you contradict yourself? It's funny how embarrassed Sup Forums christians are of the Old Testament.

youtu.be/OSyKiWfdtOU

Follow the example of Bro Dean. He can show you the way.

Oh wow; For someone I have been recently becoming enfatuated with Star Trek. However, I realize it is a rosy athiest hypothetical for the futur that will never happen. Ah well. I shouldn't be all that surprised. I'm just disappointed.

>pick it up
>start reading
>get shot

It's hard if you didn't grow up on bible speak. I swear this shit is a different language.

What's the reason why grown men still worship a dead kike on a stick?

Religion is a means to apply hope and happiness to an otherwise meaningless life.

I'm more happy letting my brain wander and question the concept of humanity and life and some questions simply being unanswerable. I feel like saying, "Because God works in mysterious ways," is a bullshit way of saying I have no fucking idea how any of this shit works, and I won't take the time to invest my time to research why any of this shit works because some Ethereal Being that neither I nor professional scientists can prove real said so.

Religion is good in the sense that it gives motivation/community. But in the long term, it's really a fruitless passion to follow something that doesn't exist and to blindly follow rules.

I think the power for humans to question is something that goes underutilized due to religious beliefs. To blindly follow is to grossly turn your potential into mush.

youtu.be/j34Gk3JzAsY

G-d only knows

It's literally 1600's English, so around the same time shakespeare did his plays. I'm guessing you were homeschooled your entire life?

youtube.com/watch?v=f1rbtTcVPL0

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>"He lives in Arcadia, California with his wife Anne and her two sons."
>LITERALLY "my wife's sons"-tier

fucking incredible, how much the memes bleed into reality

The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed, and the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. You wouldn't watch a prequel of a movie without seeing the movie it preceeds would you? Well you could, but it is preferable to watch the movie the preqel preceed first. It serves as a somewhat of a literary abstract; a better roadmap. That's all I'm saying

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I used to be agnositic but had divine experiences, on my own, that lead me to Jesus. I know for a fact that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is real.

The spirit of God dwells within you and its amazon. The spirit has love thats beyond our comprehension.

and its amazing**

>Just read it, what have you got to lose?
>"Yeah, I might actually. I like that idea. Have you read these other religious texts that billions of people worship?"
>No

What have you got to lose user? I thought it was important to eliminate biases

youtu.be/olZSJKx7oQg

See

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that you're reading these texts explicitly to confirm or destroy biases, and not to see if the texts themselves are more coherent, logical or accurate?

And you're also saying, despite never having actually read them...they're wrong?

Or am I drawing too many conclusions?

>dead
Are you not aware of the ressurection on the third day?

>Just pick it up and start reading.

Also read the news and history.

>Trivia: He and wife, Anne, have two sons, Nolan and Ryan Wheaton, from her previous marriage. They live in Los Angeles, California.

bump.

for justice.

Proud scientologist here, ama anything guys. I'm ready to dispel the myths

Oh just like Krishna?

Biases are formed through the sentiments of logic and coherency. In a perfect theoretical hypothetical, it would be best to explicately read every line of philosophical, mythological, and theological texts that extists. However obviously, practice does not permit that. One needs only to look at the core themes of something to understand its intrinsic value or the lack thereof.

Take a math textbook or any textbook for example. If I look at a few chapters out of it, and see they make sense and are true, then I have reason to believe the whole book and feild of study the book is based on is legitimate.

It is important to note that logic is relavent. That is why textbooks are credible based on the scientific logic they present. In an analogous manner, theological writings should be deemed credible on the theological or spiritual logic they present. The miraculous power found within true christianity is one logical argument for it's legitimacy (that is when we are using spiritual logic)

biblehub.com/luke/3-33.htm
>the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah

biblehub.com/hebrews/7-14.htm
>For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah

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>He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
biblehub.com/john/1-11.htm
>He came to his own people, and even they rejected him.

His own people aka Jews.

biblehub.com/john/4-22.htm
>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

Samaritans aka Gentiles.

JESUS WAS A JEW.

>All Christians Are Cucks
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>All Christians are Cucks #2
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>All Christians are Cucks #3
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>All Christians are Cucks #4
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>All Christians are Cucks #5
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>Cucktianity: What Is A Covenant
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>Cuck Identity
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>Cuck Identity #2
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>Indoctrination
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Synagogue of Satan debunked
youtube.com/watch?v=cLU6oms0j4o

>Why do people care about berating an increasingly irrelevant religion anyway?
Because they're not irrelevant. They actively fund and even run many of the boats coming from Africa to Europe.

savethechildren.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=8rKLIXMGIpI4E&b=9357115&ct=14921495

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-boat-rescue-charities-medicins-sans-frontieres-save-the-children-mediterranean-sea-migrants-a7699571.html

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer
>Konrad Hermann Joseph Adenauer was a German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963.
>He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party that under his leadership became, and has since usually been the most influential party in the country.
>He displayed a strong dedication to a broad vision of market-based liberal democracy and anti-communism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
>West Germany joined NATO in 1955
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Gauck
>is the President of Germany, serving since March 2012. A former Lutheran pastor, he came to prominence as an anti-communist civil rights activist in East Germany
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel
>the daughter of Horst Kasner, a Lutheran pastor and a native of Berlin, and his wife Herlind, born in 1928 in Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland)
>is a German politician who is currently Chancellor of Germany. She is also the leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
>From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union)
>first trade union in a Warsaw Pact country that was not controlled by a communist party.
>anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church
>CIA covert support
>In Sollicitudo rei socialis, a major document of Catholic Social Teaching, Pope John Paul II identifies the concept of solidarity with the poor and marginalized as a constitutive element of the Gospel and human participation in the common good.

More like, there never been more churches, while Christian Democrats didn't even exist in Socialism. Pro-refugee faggots are all Christian.

Fairy Tales...

bu-but user there is religion in the future?

Other planets and probably cultures on earth. This was never really explored much on earth at least to know one way or the other.

> it would be best to explicately read every line of philosophical, mythological, and theological texts that extists.

All I'm saying is, it's incredibly hypocritical to urge people read the bible (several times) without bias, and then claim that you'd only read any other holy text in order to confirm your preconceived notions of the text. You're not even following your own advice.

>If I look at a few chapters out of it, and see they make sense and are true, then I have reason to believe the whole book and feild of study the book is based on is legitimate.

Bad example. Math textbooks do not make moral prescriptions nor claim to hold the philosophical and theological truth. If I saw that there were some faulty maths in a textbook, I would assume that the publisher/author of the book screwed up, not that the entirety of math is incorrect.

> the whole book and feild of study the book is based on is legitimate.
The whole filed? I didn't stop reading because a few bad books.

>theological writings should be deemed credible on the theological or spiritual logic they present. The miraculous power found within true christianity is one logical argument for it's legitimacy (that is when we are using spiritual logic)

First of all:
>Spiritual logic
What

Second: I would actually like it if YOU could point out some logical inconsistencies within the Vedas or the Sutras. And then you can talk about your undefined "spiritual logic." I'm not saying that these texts are logically coherent either, I would just love it if you could share with me your own findings, you know, being ready to dismiss them and all without having read any of them, while still maintaining that somehow the bible sounds any less absurd.

I have to go shower and go, but I'll check back in the archive in the morning because I'm genuinely curious.

There are themes of dangerous liberal idealism in
Star Trek like multiculteralism. In Star Trek it always works out, but not in the real world! Star Trek also banks on the theme of putting our hope in scientific progression. Hunger and famine apparently don't exist in the third century due scientific progression. That will never happen. I'm all for it, but there are just some problems scientific progression will never fix.

What else can you suggest

A lot of it doesn't matter. You want to read instructions for ancient Hebrew priests to perform animal sacrifices? Those Jews don't exist anymore, those priests don't exist any more, there is no temple for them if they did, and the new covenant supercedes the old anyway.
The Bible was not compiled for the laity. It's books are in chronological order for convenience to theologians. It's not in the ideal order to just pick up and read.

People should probably read something like;
Ecclesiastes
John
Psalms and proverbs
The rest of the new testament in order
The rest of the old if you really want to

1) The Catholic Church is the one true Church
2) The Catholic Church forbids racism
3) Racial policies are necessary to creating an ethnostate
4) One cannot support the Catholic Church and an ethnostate

This is where I got stuck

faithandheritage.com/2011/01/a-biblical-defense-of-ethno-nationalism/

Not Catholic

Because it will make you and your life better
youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat

Also how exactly can you come to terms with christianity being a foreign religion. It kind of defeats the purpose of nationalism to adopt a foreign religion.

Yes a fucking jewish god will make your life better GOY.

>1) The Catholic Church is the one true Church
No it isn't.

opinion.

I will but first i want to look at a more logical look at it, has anyone read this book before?
amazon.com/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism/dp/1587314525

If so red pill me on this read, i might pick this up for Christmas read through this go head on to the new testament and see what's up.

It's extremely hard to read. Can you recommend a good version for an idiot, please? And what book or chapter or whatever is the New Testament?

To use an engineering or math analogy, the parts in red are like the final answer with a box around it. But the other text is just as important because it supports and leads to the red text, and puts it all in context.

Racism is not required for racial policies. That said what is the possible argument for an ethnostate when all great empires are civic or religious based?

Rude, tbqh.

But all the sacrifices, rituals, and architecture in some way or another represented Jesus Christ and his atoning work on the Cross.

I don't think it is good to necessarily distinguish the laity and theologians because it seems somewhat patronizing. I think the laity should be accountable for learining the theological symbolism and all of the Word of God they have access to. The Holy Spirit is what gives us unerstanding of the Scripture, not necessarily our intelligence.

>reads bible
>becomes atheist

Racism is the exclusion of other races and specially when you are trying to push back the hordes of people. Christianity will not up end niggers and other non-whites from the US. I'm sorry to inform you but your jewish religion isn't nationalist or compatible with an ethnostate.

"it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

No. My opinion is the Catholic Church is run by pedophile Marxists.
The Roman Catholic Church is not the Early Church or more organic Christianity at large.
Christ cares about his message not an organization™ that claims to speak for him.

>Just pick it up and start reading. Start with the
book of mormon

I don't believe in Jesus or YHVH sorry. I do believe in God though but not as any religion depicts it. Well maybe some Eastern religions get close.

>No. My opinion is the Catholic Church is run by pedophile Marxists.
opinion of an insane targeted individual that picks and choose the cult he is going to worship. If you want to believe that shit anything that someone comes up with on youtube is true as well.
>The Roman Catholic Church is not the Early Church or more organic Christianity at large.
opinion.
>Christ cares about his message not an organization™ that claims to speak for him.
opinion.

why

Funny that OP. I just planted the new testament on my bed side table the other night just to read over it before bed when i have spare moments. In reality paganism floats my boat, but i believe faith in general, and a developed belief worth defending is good.

I don't understand how you can read the King James Bible daily and that some how leads you to become Catholic. Christians in the Bible are reffered to as Saints, Christians, and Baptists.

It wasn't John the Catholic it was John the Baptist.

>Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

>Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The Catholic Church is not Biblical.

>This is where I got stuck
catholicism is fallen.

Mormonism is the only church that will be conducive for an ethnostate.

I was hoping that someone would go into one of these churches to remove some jewish worshiping retards. I can promise you if you look through that churches videos you will find tons of pro- white genocide shit and weakness.

>The Catholic Church is not Biblical.
Opinion, just like everything you've done.

>Mormonism
CULT UPON A CULT.

The Catholic Chuch has had problems with the laity reading the Bible themselves since it's inception.

>You want to read instructions for ancient Hebrew priests to perform animal sacrifices?

No. Do you want to read instructions for jew messiahs on how to wash mens' feet and be a cuck? Both halves of the Bible are garbage.

>The Roman Catholic Church is not the Early Church or more organic Christianity at large.
>opinion.
It's actually not opinion. The early church preached universal salvation until 400 AD and eternal torment used to not be a thing. Neither was purgatory, papal supremacy, veneration of Mary, etc. etc.
You are objectively incorrect.

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

opinion.

>CULT UPON A CULT.
you have zero evidence of this. If it's such a cult why are there so many former LDS people. I thought cult's kill those trying to leave.

This is the kind of thinking that gets people in over their heads engaged in arguments with atheists which have proper answers that they don't know so they end up doing something like mumbling 'muh faith' and making Christianity look bad.

If the universe is purely material then what you think and do depends entirely on the material (for there is nothing else) and results from material cause and effect.

If you exist in a purely material universe and choose incorrectly to believe in the soul then you are not the fool, because the material universe constructed your beliefs from its atoms and you did not in fact choose them.

If you live in a universe with a metaphysical component and choose to believe that you a material automaton then you are in fact a fool, since you chose to believe this of your own free will.

Draw a grid, like game theory. You can't choose wrong by choosing to believe in metaphysics,

christianity is a jewish cult then you put loads of horse shit on top of the cult.

Book of Mormon was claimed to be received by Joseph Smith who was the only one that received this "revelation" through an angel.

Read the Bible. Not buying Joseph Smith's garbage.

Yeah I'm going to find "truth" in an ancient book of fairy tales. No, I''ll find delusions and mental illness.