Why are natsocs so fucking violent and rage filled?
I want white nationalism but I don't want white people to live like violent uncivilized apes that kill people at the drop of a hat.
Every single one I've talked to on the internet is filled with so much anger and thirst for blood. It's like they're jews trying to make white nationalists look bad.
They don't understand that being a nazi faggot just turns normie white people away from the movement.
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You know any form of white nationalism is going to turn off normies until white nationalism is normalized, Nazi or not.
>You know any form of white nationalism is going to turn off normies until white nationalism is normalized
bullshit
I became a white nationalist slowly over time by some of the normie arguments Sup Forums talks about like race and IQ and homogeneous cultures being more peaceful and community minded
you can convince many people to allow for white nationalism
Because they're violent uncivilized apes with anger and a thirst for blood
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a fucking duck
Run far and fast
Racist!!!!!!!
I just wished there was a real white nationalist movement based on peaceful separation.
to be fair there are plenty of communists and natsoc in europe as well
Race and IQ arguments are not normie tier friend, and I'm not exactly sure what the big difference between your ideal white nationalism and Nazism exactly is. What attributes besides one being "more violent" are you using to differentiate the two? And what gameplan do you have that is workable by lacks any sort of violence? Come up with something concrete instead of these vague abstractions.
What is you definition of hordes?
If it means about ten dudes that all get drunk in a basement or warehouse, ok.
someone should add "punched in the face by a scat fetishist" to that image
You're racist. Sick
>and I'm not exactly sure what the big difference between your ideal white nationalism and Nazism exactly is
LEL what
Are you retarded?
Natsoc is violent fascism/authoritarianism.
I want a country where white people can be free.
something like what the founding fathers of USA imagined but with whites only.
Natsoc being violently authoritarian is a jewish meme. You should know this if you're already into huwite nationalism
>I want a country where white people can be free.
You can't equate freedom with peacefulness, these are not analogous.
>I want a country where white people can be free.
and how do you propose to make that happen? Is there truly a way to do so peacefully?
>something like what the founding fathers of USA imagined but with whites only.
The founding fathers made this country by use of a violent insurgency. There's a reason why the second amendment includes guns
>Natsoc being violently authoritarian
They legit were though even if the holocaust didn't happen. They were also socialist faggots.
>ancap flag
>thinks spencer is good but jared taylor is bad
You are the ultimate cuck. Holy fucking shit.
Well once you’ve destroyed any hope of white nations regaining their own sovereignty back, it’s kind of hard not to be violent or at least angry to those who want to destroy that nation or nations. It’s like saying a bunch of nogs raping and stealing a white farm then saying to the white owner “don’t be mad, people won’t like you”.
>You can't equate freedom with peacefulness, these are not analogous.
You absolutely can.
What the fuck are you talking about you brain damaged retard?
USA was the most peaceful country on earth while being the most free.
You're a cuck.
>and how do you propose to make that happen?
White separatism, advocating for separatism of all races and cultures etc
>Is there truly a way to do so peacefully?
Possibly.
I'm okay with it being done violently though.
Once a white ethnostate is achieved, the whites in that country should be peaceful.
Whites are naturally peaceful.
>The founding fathers made this country by use of a violent insurgency. There's a reason why the second amendment includes guns
I agree with this, see above.
When did I say spencer is good? Most of the so called e celebs that represent natsoc to normies are cringy as hell. Also literally every nsg theead has some faggot making a punchline about muh socialism in the name, when it was just Hitler's reinterpretation of what socialism meant
Saying the Nazis failed is like saying the Twin Towers just "fell down"
>"If the Führer wants it, two and two makes five!"
It's a cult, just like Bolshevism was.
If they can make you believe the shit they spout, they can control you easily. You replace your own identity with collective identity, and you replace your own judgement and common sense with that of the leaders.
Just blindly surrendering your freedom in exchange for blissful ignorance, a black and white world which is simple to understand.
That is the main tenet of all extremist ideologies.
Why do you think it's mostly failures who subscribe to this stuff? They have so little to lose. And some just imagine they will be leaders.
You shouldn't hate these people, you should feel sorry for them. When their numbers grow, it's a sign that system isn't working.
>USA was the most peaceful country on earth while being the most free.
ah, you're just being ironic
>White separatism, advocating for separatism of all races and cultures etc
not going to happen peacefully. You seem to have a very unworkable idea of how world politics work
>Once a white ethnostate is achieved, the whites in that country should be peaceful.
but Germans in Germany were peaceful to each other, so why are you saying they are violent? Violent how?
>calls those trying to eliminate enemies of their race "apes"
>but niggers and jews are "people"
fuck off kike
What the fuck are you doing on pol with that flag. Do you try to skip the chimpout threads while telling yourself you are working for "change"? Is there a deep down resignation to the fact that the racial problem in America is not a white priviledge problem, but one brought about by leftism taking away blacks self determination by telling them all of their problems are not their fault? If so you feel the need to wander here to recharge the systemic racism myth that keeps you from attacking your own race when their stupidity rears it's head in public? Why are you here? Should you be?
Or does sharia blue pay you a nickel a post?
>violent and rage filled?
I'm not you dumb cunt
This. It was "failing" so hard it took the combined might of the most powerful countries on earth to stop it.
What if they don't make me believe the shit they spout but they actually say things and do things I agree with? I don't want jews controlling my banks and hiking up interest rates to milk me dry, I also don't want faggot degeneracy getting spread by the media jews and I don't want muslims to immigrate to European countries due to jewish wars and jewish politicians opening borders to cuck the native European population
>Why are natsocs so fucking violent and rage filled?
Because of retards like you smearing our ideology.
>violent uncivilized apes with anger and a thirst for blood
you mean leftypol larpers?
>ITT : shameless ignorance
Leon Degrelle was a Belgian (Walloon) collaborator. Furthermore, that statement is so detached from truth, and he has a clear motivation to say something like that, on account of being Nazi collaborator.
Nazism was absolutely German-centric, and racial Darwinist.
Few quips about Japanese or Chinese (who were mostly irrelevant to German geopolitical goals), don't erase their genocidal policies in Eastern Europe.
>But when we speak of new territory in Europe to-day we must principally think of Russia and the border States subject to her.
>But it is our task, and it is the mission of the National Socialist Movement, to develop in our people that political mentality which will enable them to realize that the aim which they must set to themselves for the fulfilment of their future must not be some wildly enthusiastic adventure in the footsteps of Alexander the Great but industrious labour with the German plough, for which the German sword will provide the soil.
This is Hitler in Mein Kampf. But I guess this is irrelevant, because some collaborator said so.
Shut yo raycis mouth, whyte boy. Ooga booga
But, but, muh Jews aren't a race?
Why, why does that Jew in Europe look like a Palestinian?
I don't believe in WW2 atrocity propaganda bullshit at all, but natsoc and fascism being shitty collectivist authoritarian systems with zero personal freedom/civil liberties is a fact.
>Why are natsocs so fucking violent and rage filled?
Where is your evidence for this? You're just a fucking commie or neo-liberal rat, pretending to be ancap, white nationalist or "centrist" because you're too much of a fucking coward to admit what you are. You're basically Joe Rogan, a vile liberal rat.
Isn't it strange that Natsocs insist they are the key to freedom and the bane to Jewry while simultaneously being the best thing that has ever happened to Jews in human history?
>gadsden flag
the day of the rope is coming, prepare you die you filthy kike
So German natsoc was German-centric, why couldn't the French have French-centric natsoc? Literally a Jewish meme that the natsocs were supremacist
People have been trying to stop mass immigration into white countries by peaceful means for decades. But the leftist cunts have pushed this to the point where it has become almost impossible to reverse it by peaceful means.
How do you intend to restore white countries exactly? Mass deportations? The left won't allow this to happen and will fight ti all the way, so what is the alternative? I'm all ears.
What's the problem here? This sounds exactly like Mitteleuropa under the Kaiser. Russia's border states, that is to say Ukraine, Belorussia and Baltic's under German control, being developed by German hands. Doesn't seem out of the ordinary.
>he has a clear motivation to say something like that, on account of being Nazi collaborator.
circular reasoning
>genocidal
ffs let go of that retarded meme
Why are jews so fucking violent and rage filled?
>Flag
>That lack of self-awareness
Quintessentially Amerimutt
Zero personal freedoms in regards to being a total degenerate maybe, yeah, but I guess it's something we couldn't really come to a compromise with anyway
As soon as you start to believe in simplistic black and white shit like that ("Jews control everything''), they made you believe their shit.
What did Bolsheviks say to their masses?
''If we just remove parasitic classes, we will have utopia''.
Doesn't this sound familiar?
One is racial, other is class-based, but both operated on same principle. Simple slogans, centralized power, propaganda, brutal violence to further their aims, later cult of the leader (Stalin).
I don't want those things either, but Nazism is not a solution. Not to mention you people totally ignore that Nazism was a GERMAN ideology. It wasn't some pan-European movement.
solid gaslighting 7/10
saged
God am i glad i stopped being a lolsperg
>They don't understand that being a nazi faggot just turns normie white people away from the movement.
normalfags wont care either way, if the jews keep saying that x party or movement are nazis they will eat that shit up
The Arab ones do look different.
Both kinds of jew are distinctly different from Europeans though.
NS was supremacist.
What sounds problematic is that it's clear their aim from the start was conquest of someone else's land.
>Russia's border states
Russia AND border states.
Nothing sounds problematic, if you're German nationalist. However, I am not, and I don't see why a non-German would be a German nationalist.
I gave you a fucking quote from MK. Sure, it's not genocidal openly, but at the very least it implies colonialism and submission of Slavs.
What if instead of believing it at face value, you look at the actual people who are in those positions, and find conclusive evidence that merits some trust in that ebul nazee propaganda? See for yourself, alot of fucking bankers and neomarxist degenerate politicians are kikes. Just like they were back in the Weimar republic.
All these meme flags in one thread.
collectivism benefits us all, especially in this era of technology. Do you want to slave away for hours on end for someone who betrays the nation for personal gain? There is nothing wrong with people having things, but we must work efficiently together to better everyone's lives, and not simply those already with power. The civil liberty aspect is often overstated, and we ignore that similar limits were enacted in the United States during the war.
Diversity + Proxmitiy = War
It always has.
The people orchestrating this know that, so War must be the intended consequence.
Yeah, I'm not enough of a cuck to place my life in the hands of some corrupt retarded socialist government official to decide if I'm a "degenerate" in his personal subjective view and get to live or die, thank you very much.
Who is the chadvocate?
shills outshilling each other
Half breeds and quarter-breeds don't negate the fact that there are pure-breeds.
Goyim are constantly confused by this. By design.
But National Socialism didn't fail because of internal corruption like Communism always does and Capitalism is currently. It was brought down by outside threats.
Google top 10 banks in the world, then see their CEO's. Tell me how many Jews you find.
Four biggest banks in Weimar era were German (ethnic German) owned.
It's just populist bullshit. ''Jews control everything'' that is.
As for Jews supporting some policies I don't like, that has some merit.
>falling so hard for such low-tier bait, you fucking screencap it
Jared Taylor
I'd have agreed with Hitler and the OG natsocs about what was degenerate and what wasn't. And I don't like those degenerates, I'd like Hitler to send them to a work camp
>le epic socialism meme!!
NatSoc eternally BTFo??
It would fail the same way communism did. In fact, given the scale of their unsustainable rearmament, they would probably collapse by 1942 or 1943.
>outside threats
They fell to outside threats because of the war they started.
Did someone invade Germany? Did someone sanction them because they persecuted Jews?
Did they invade them when they started rebuilding army?
When they re-militarized Rheinland?
When they annexed Austria?
When they were given Sudety?
When they occupied the rest of Bohemia and Moravia?
What a retarded fucking theory.
>NatSoc iz da real socialist
Okay boomer. National socialism is literally National Volkism. It's the complete opposite of the gay bernie sanders socialism
didn't cap it myself
Because it existed for the entirety of 12 years, of which a third was sustained by conquering and looting neighboring countries. I can show you any fundamentally flawed governance which managed to operate for a short period of time. That's not what determines success.
Why does literally everything I read about national socialism just seem "correct" and logical?
>Conquest of someone else's land
The USSR's land I'd assume. In which case, I see no problem occupying it to remove the stains of Bolshevism from it and the threat is poses to civilization
>I don't see why a non-German would be a German nationalist
You don't have to be. Many of the volunteers from the many occupied countries of Europe didn't see themselves as German nationalists. They saw themselves as knights in a monumental crusade, a Pan-European (Yes I used the word) against a tyrannical foe. That's what they fought for. Not for Germany, but for Europe.
>Mein Kampf
I think you give too much importance to Mein Kampf without taking into consideration the context. He wrote that after a failed coup while in prison declaring his intent to quit politics altogether. The failed revolutionary Hitler is quite different (And had to be different) compared to Chancellor Hitler in 1933 and Warlord of Germany in 1942. Hitler also said all Jews in Bavaria would hang until their bodies smelled upon which they would be replaced until all of Bavaria was free of Jews in Mein Kampf. But that didn't happen either. Perhaps something closer to the time period you ascribe would be better suited to explain Hitler's intent. There is his Second Book and his Table Talks (Although one of those two is dubious but I can't remember which one).
I can tell you those are probably crypto jews aswell. Bottom line, the Jew has been instrumental in bringing the bullshit that I don't like into this world, they shouldn't be able to just skip judgement because muh not all jews. And if some ethnically guy tries to do the same shit, they don't get off any lighter. They kight aswell be kikes
Hitler actually advocated for peaceful seperation.
The international finance wouldn't have any of it
You newfags are such a meme lol.
>"muh authoritarian evil Nazi cult"
Even JFK said the truth about Hitler will eventually prevail
General Patton said we fought the wrong enemy and was depressed about it.
Do some research and lurk some more newfag
Take the Mein Kampf pill if you haven't already.
Every single chapter is reasonable. Some have lost their relevance because muh 2017 though.
>NS was supremacist
If you repeat that statenent enough maybe it will stop being just jew propaganda
Whatever you call it, they expanded the welfare state which was built in Weimar Germany, and they controlled the economy.
Because they are literally inventing shit, and using Hitler's quotes. Hitler was a terrible liar.
Nazis actually developed segmented propaganda.
So one story was told to workers, other story to working class, third story to industrialists (he never mentioned Jews to them), fourth story to army officers, fifth story to foreign diplomats.
That's why you have quotes of Hitler both praising Islam, and saying NS is a Christian movement.
They were the definition of populism, in the sense of telling people what they want to hear.
There's a reason Goebbels is held so highly as a propagandist. He was truly a master of it.
Yep, The only way you can logically support mass immigration and open borders is if you want a future that consists of perpetual war and conflict.
BECAUSE THE FIRE SPREADS HAHAHAHAHA
Why is is that every OP with a meme flag always makes absolutely abhorrent threads?
>Every single one I've talked to on the internet is filled with so much anger and thirst for blood. It's like they're jews trying to make white nationalists look bad.
That's exactly what it is. That, in conjunction with basically young losers who have gotten to a point where they recognize the problems with the world and themselves but don't quite know how to fix them. They want somewhere to belong. Lots of mentally ill faggots, too. Literal homosexuals. Jesus fucking Christ, the "natsoc" movement must be like 20% homosexual. The leather daddy meme is a real thing.
So a regular free market economy with light centrist elements that isn't tapped by banks would fare worse than any given economy that is? That sounds pretty stupid
>not genocidal openly
you absolute retard
do you believe everything jews say or just that one lie?
Because volkism is based on the natural law of things. That's why
You don't get that without being willing to stomp a non-white face into bloody pulp.
They aren't gonna willing fuck off home to their 3rd world shitholes, you turbo-pansy.
You have to want a white ethnostate more than they want the spoils of our society for themselves. I don't think you're up to it (if you're legit and not a larping jewfag).
And it's getting to the point that if you're aren't willing to get your hands dirty, then maybe you won't have a place in the promised land anyway.
Get the fuck of f the fence and stop trying to pay the odds, you opportunistic fuck.
Collectivist regimes like natsoc or communism merely amplify the shitty socialist welfare tax policies of the current regime to an even more extreme degree, and with different, still completely subjective justifications that I don't necessarily agree with. What if I don't give a shit about "bettering everyones's lives," or "equality" or whatever buzzwords and phrases your system operates under? What if I care more about my personal liberty than any of that shit? The fact is that humans are corrupt and that all human organization falls into corruption and decline over time. Authoritarian leadership may be beneficial when you have a great leader, or a generation of great leaders. But what if the top government positions are occupied by corrupt filth like our current elites? The only reason our lives today aren't hell on earth is precisely because we live in a cvilization which values, or at least used to value, freedom and liberty above other things and as such restricts the authority these people can hold over our personal lives. I don't want this to change by any means. If anything, we need to become more liberal and more decentralized again -- since this foundation has slowly but steadily been eroded over the last century.
It's virtually the same shit as with spoiled SJW manginas. "I don't like thing X, therefore I want big daddy government to oppress/kill them!" The ultimate autistic self-centered egotism, applying your personal views to a universal political system and wanting to force everyone to submit to them. And this is precisely why, thank God, you are not and will never be successful and see your twisted, repressive views realized on a political level.
>Hey goy you can have your own business as long as you comply with which goods are produced, in what quantities, at what prices, how it's distributed and what wages are paid
You wouldn't need to go on about kikes forever, it wasn't the entire ideology. It wasn't segmented propaganda either, it was all part of the same ideology.
>The USSR's land I'd assume. In which case, I see no problem occupying it to remove the stains of Bolshevism from it and the threat is poses to civilization
First, that wasn't their motivation (as clearly seen from Hitler's writing), and second, Bolsheviks were literally funded by Imperial Germany.
>Many of the volunteers from the many occupied countries of Europe didn't see themselves as German nationalists.
They were German collaborators nonetheless. The fact they bought propaganda doesn't speak well for them.
>I think you give too much importance to Mein Kampf
It's literally what Führer wrote.
>is quite different
But that's the problem. He wasn't. That's what everyone hoped would happen, but it didn't. It turned out, and it became painfully obvious in 1939, that Nazis would do what they said they will.
>But that didn't happen either
No, they were just shot en masse, and later killed using gas.
But it's impossible to to argue with you, you are a cultist.
If they aren't Jewish, then they are crypto-Jewish.
Look, his great great grandfather was a Jew, totally Jewish!
Why do I give a fuck what Patton said?
I'm literally quoting Hitler here, but apparently it's more relevant what Patton said. Amazing.
As if their own propaganda wasn't enough, literally just read Mein Kampf.
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>When they annexed Austria?
by referendum
your ignorance is starting to piss me off
the war was wanted by outside forces, Hitler did all he could to avoid it
Watch out for shills.
Look up the german miracle
Look up how Germany went from poor as fuck to one of the richest countries in the world in only a couple years under Hitler
Look at how high they're GDP was in each year
Look at how 9 million were unemployed before Hitler and only a couple years later the employment rate was literally zero
Look at how happy and prideful the german people were
It's not like they could realistically suppress degeneracy out of the personal level of society. It was all done because being a degenerate is an unhealthy thing to promote. Throwing gommies out of helicopters is pretty much the same thing, but I don't see you guys getting too upset about that.
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Except National Socialism was the only socialist system that ever worked properly to the extent that it lifted an impoverished Germany out of the depression brought on by the world economic crisis and impossible sanctions enforced on them by the treaty of Versailles. Nazis are and will always be, the ultimate example of western culture given strength. They are heroes. You have been spoon fed lies by the Jews all your life. You wouldn't even question them for fear of being outcast. Coward.
That wasn't even my point. The shit that these kikes are pushing doesn't necessarily have to be operated by jews. I just want to stop them doing that shit. But it's true that it's definitely rooted in jewish initiative and it is to serve jewish zionist interests.
*working class
Meant to write middle class.
What ''light centrist elements''?
It was less capitalist than Lenin's NEP.
After Goering was appointed and Schacht was kicked out, they literally implemented a Four Year Plan.
This isn't about Holocaust.
en.wikipedia.org
Imperial Germany funded them in 1917 in hopes of that destroying Russia and winning world war 1. The bolsheviks were also in Germany and led a failed coup in 1918. The Nazi party literally started after this failed Bolshevik coup. It literally started to fight the bolsheviks
Okay. Why did they occupy Bohemia and Moravia, after they got German-populated lands?
As I said before context is very important in regards to history. When I was ten and angry I also wrote things that 10 years later have no bearing on my character or beliefs today.What Hitler believed in 1924 and what he believed in 1942 are very different things especially when confronted with world changing events like becoming Fuhrer, being head of a country or leading it into war.
>Later killed use gas
Ah I see now......
>They were German collaborators nonetheless. The fact they bought propaganda doesn't speak well for them.
Why does it speak bad of them? Again, context matters. It's easy to look back with hindsight and say you'd have been different. But we both know that's probably not true no matter what you may think.
>What if I care more about my personal liberty than any of that shit?
move out into the woods and live by yourself. You already benefit in ways from these social programs we use, and always have. Chances are without these programs you wouldn't be able to read.
> But what if the top government positions are occupied by corrupt filth like our current elites?
Then the system has to come down again, as it always has throughout history. Nations will always rise and fall, there's no avoiding it, and no system will ever be perfect.
>The only reason our lives today aren't hell on earth is precisely because we live in a cvilization which values, or at least used to value, freedom and liberty above other things and as such restricts the authority these people can hold over our personal lives.
but personal liberties can still exist in a autocratic state, they are just not codified into law necessarily. Liberties are nice and all, however the government that controls people is supplanted by an even worse corporation. Like having free speech? Well say goodbye to it because this corporation says if you work for them you have to say what they want you to, and if you don't work for one of these corporation you can just starve.
Read the Henry Ford version and try to remember that Mein Kampf was a decade old by the time Hitler actually got to power. It still holds many eternal truths, just don't read a kike translated version where the pages are just full of sadistic descriptions of violence against 6 million billion jews and "subhuman" slavs
Anti-Boleshevism was far from being the main point of Nazi ideology.
Main point was restoring Germany as a great power, and achieving continental hegemony, primarily by conquering East and colonizing it.
Later on, they planned for extermination and enslavement of people there.
Because we're being ethnically cleansed.
Our backs are against the wall.
The choice we face is simple, be the victims of ethnic cleansing or the perpetrators.
Optics matters from a political perspective but as someone who doesn't live in a democracy I don't really care. I use as much inflammatory rhetoric as possible to further radicalise non-whites.