Communism, Socialism, Fascism- none of these ideologies are actually a problem. The corrupt government's that manipulate their citizenry are the problem. Every time you cry about communists, you are helping The Powers That Be by enforcing their "divide and conquer" tactic. Stop being a fucking retard and think for yourself.
FYI, Capitalism is responsible for the Vietnam War, North Korea, the Middle East "wars" (bombing/murdering people with sticks doesn't count as a war in my book), the drug war, the "war" on terror, the obesity epidemic, and so forth.
All forms of government are trash because there is no repercussions for corruption.
Joseph Cruz
>The corrupt government's that manipulate their citizenry are the problem. And when have we ever seen this benevolent dictator emerge?
>>/leftypol/
Eli Johnson
>try to seize libertarian/ancap means of memeing via recolour >do a half-arsed job of it so a lot of the frog is still yellow >yet can't restrain yourself enough to not add a bunch of Soviet imagery instead of the natural looks of the ancap version The absolute state of the left.
Also >the problem isn't retarded central planning governments, it is capitalism and the corruption of governments which is a wholly separate issue from governments being powerful >all we need to do is add repercussions for corruption which the ruling elite absolutely isn't going to abuse the everloving fuck out of to purge anyone trying to go against them >reducing the size and power of government so that very little if anything can be gained from corruption? Never!
Adam King
>The corrupt government's that manipulate their citizenry are the problem A problem inherent to communism
Ryan Brown
retards who can't into an argument
kill yourselves
Daniel Turner
Wars aren't caused by economic systems. Wars are caused by statism. Sorry but you can't blame war casualties on capitalism. Communism on the other hand has caused the deaths of 100+ mil people directly with it's own retarded economic policies.
Carson Cox
>>FYI, Capitalism is responsible for the Vietnam War, North Korea, the Middle East "wars"
Fucking so?
Kill every muslim and commie on Earth, no one will fucking complain
Nolan Rogers
All three are a problem, but we'll use the fascists to get rid of the pinkos for us to keep our hands clean.
Aiden King
>Sorry but you can't blame war casualties on capitalism. Communism on the other hand has caused the deaths of 100+ mil people directly with it's own retarded economic policies. >Every person who ever died or suffered in a Liberal state is a natural causality. Every person who ever died or suffered in a Communist state is a victim of communism. How can you be so oblivious to such an obvious propaganda?
Austin Carter
Are you denying the holodomor?
Andrew Baker
>All forms of government are trash because there is no repercussions for corruption. Purely ideal concepts don't exist in reality. All forms of government have their merits because they exist. All forms of societal organisation that don't exist are trash, khm-khm, any types of anarchiddies and lolberts.
Kayden Ramirez
There was a hunger, just like every 5 to 10 years in pre-industrialized Russia, which the Bolsheviks fixed.
Jaxon Thompson
sounds like retarded communist revisionism
read a real book retard
Logan Parker
By stealing all the food the peasants had farmed.
Noah Thomas
Yeah, cause Fascists are just gonna give up at getting rid of communists. No, stupid, they'll destroy you when they have no more use for you. You can't compromise with a fascist, by their very definition they don't believe in compromise. Don't turn to them, they're just as bad as the Marxists.
Isaac King
Then maybe you can explain to the rest of us how placing the bulk of the economy into the hands of government bureaucrats will lead to less corruption or propagandistic control. The American experiment was to separate powers widely and have competing branches and states check one another so that flawed people could be prevented from installing tyranny all at once. Sadly, the consolidation of power and influence have overcome many of the former safeguards leading to our ugly present condition. Breaking up monopolies means that a few bad actors cannot dominate everything and it definitely applies to government as much as business.
Ryder Clark
> FYI, Capitalism is responsible for the Vietnam War, North Korea, the Middle East "wars"
So? & this In your view you're just so very taking down capitalism aren't you?
In my view, Vietnam and North Korean conflicts were a bunch of peasant tools, whipped up by worthless commies, to go die for their shitty holding power, only the faggots didn't even get to have food, iphones, and die peacefully over the ages of 60 as a result.
You communist fucks never offer anything better. Not in reality, your horsepiss utopian promises means fucking nothing but shit; people starve and the government is totalitarian.
The worst Robocop/Bladerunner tier corporatistic nightmare you commies can imagine for propaganda, the worst black lung the lowest hillbilly in the coal mines has ever had, is still multiple times better than having your teeth kicked in by some asshole holding an ak47, in order to attempt increasing the grain harvest or the factory production output.
You're Worse, Red. You're even worse.
David Bell
Poor logistics was always our problem. It was impossible to redistribute the food among the population while having a civil war and a foreign intervention at the same time, hence the starvation.
Chase Rodriguez
>By stealing all the food the peasants had farmed. So, why did the hunger happen only once? Why there was no hunger during most devastating and costly war, or afterwards?
Lucas Thompson
Read a book. Learn to distinguish communism and socialism. There's no government under communism you daft cunt.
Aaron Allen
>hungers only happen at starting phase What about maos giant leap and north koreas hunger in the 90's?
Kevin Johnson
The kulaks deserved it. Hoarding grain and even burning it during a fucking famine? Come on even fascists can't be that heartless and think that's okay.
Dominic Robinson
What about the countless capitalistic African countries with famines? What about India?
Jackson Morgan
Africa is a shithole. Compare north and south korea or west and east germany for meaningful comparison.
Adrian Nguyen
these different systems allow more or less corruption Communsim/Socialism influenced countries always turn out to be dictatorships where Capitalist Dictators are almost non existant Also >FYI Capitalism is responsible for north Korea >Capitalism is responsible for a communist nation and not due to the Communist USSR pic related is you
Liam Kelly
Ask east Germans about the gdr. You'll be surprised by their answers. It wasn't that bad, nobody had to starve, yes they didn't have bananas but who gives a fuck. I'll rather not have bananas than get fucked by capitalism. I don't like bananas anyways.
Charles Garcia
>Compare north and south korea Compare them before 1970s, you'll be surprised.
Julian Turner
>look at one point North Korea was good!
Cooper Smith
They even have a thing called ostalgie, a mix between the German word for East and nostalgia, gee I wonder why. Maybe socialism wasn't that bad after all
Jeremiah Watson
>not so bad So your defence to socialism is that it may actually keep people alive? Lmao. There were no famines in west germany either
Dominic Collins
Yeah, before ((((someone)))) decided to cockblock them.
Oliver Jackson
There are homeless people in western Germany and I'm pretty sure some poor cunts do starve there. There was near to no homelessness or unemployment in east Germany.
Logan Murphy
you are telling me that even though a lot of Bolshevists were jews and the USSR was at it's peak and a NK ally along with Communist China as it's bordering communist ally, it was only the jews that fucked them? of course it has to be, because it can't be (((Communism)))
Isaac Jackson
>Commie Jews want to expropriate and re-distribute the capitalist Jews' riches (among themselves) >surely it can harm noone else but the Jews
Carter Bailey
When will dumb fuck commies realize that there is no perfect system because they are all created by humans who are by nature imperfect and biased? For all of capitalisms faults the worst case scenario for it is still better that the worst case scenario for communism (see USSR) If capitalism sucks so bad why is the USA the world's biggest super power and every communist shit hole country exactly that?
Jaxon Gonzalez
Lowlifes and junkies maybe. Pretty sure there was some form of social security so nobody would starve.
Mason Carter
and were only allowed to do so because of a system called Communism
Cooper Taylor
That was the point of it after all. Can't compete under capitalism? I have an idea, let's overthrow EVERY GOVERNMENT ON THE EARTH.
Nicholas Mitchell
the problem is some people hold capitalism as some kind of virtuous set of ideals rather than just the least shit option of a series of options that are all shit
examples of capitalism working is when it stops SJWs by literally pissing off consumers so much the bottom line is threatened. Ultimately this is just evil destroying evil though, as it tends to do.
Chase Baker
Nobody doubts that capitalism is working. Capitalism is working. It's just that it's working for the rich cunts, not for the workers.
Cooper Sanders
>I don't know what the middle class is unless you are referring to minimum wage workers, and in that case that's the point if you are working a minimum wage job past 25, you fucked up