Chomsky is right about pretty much everything politically. I don't think you guys could get one upperhand on him.
What do you think he is wrong about and how would you debate that position to him. I have to state trying you are actually trying to win this debate.
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>inb4 someone cites Paul Bogdanor or Conservapedia and says he supports the Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Mao, and Maduro
He's even wrong about his chosen field of expertise, let alone politics.
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it was a monumental push into understanding languages nonetheless
He's wrong about everything, always looking for explanations that don't point to the jew
Go to bed Noam
He's spoken out about the "Jewish lobby" and has been critical of Israel to the point of getting banned from entering Israel.
>ok so he's wrong but...uh...well, his wrongness led others to correct him so...good?
That's pathetic.
lmao hes a dumb nog
Also, literally argued that America was allied with the Nazis.
And that there was no Cambodian genocide.
But sure, MUH CHOMSKY
> democratic socialism
literally impossible.
he doesn't practice what he preaches
just an intellectual
nice meme
>literal socialist
>defends socialist dictators
Chomsky is a massive piece of shit and completely wrong about economics and politics.
Commie fuck needs a free helicopter ride.
it is impossible
"democratic slavery"
how does that make sense?
Democracy is authoritarian and should be limited.
How did you not learn that lesson from the Greeks?
Leftist "anarchy" is just statism,
you need a state to enforce their syndicates or whatever
you need a state to ban money
catalonia was a statist shithole
nice argument
It was through chomsky's writings that I was introduced to cognitive science which I majored in and graduated with last year. I owe a great deal to him. I suggest you read the debates between him and hitchens for an interesting, academic debate.
nice bait
he's a kike
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George Soros is anti-Israel too. Whats your point?
you retards never had an argument in the first place
not bait
you're just butthurt you cannot refute me
Steven Pinker is a much better cognitive scientist and actually makes sense unlike that kike chomsky
Socialism isn't slavery.
>democracy is authoritarian
It can be. That's why we have a constitution.
>defends socialist dictators
lol
He's a libertarian/anarchist. He's admitted that Castro and some other left wing dictators did a few decent things, but that's just acknowledging history.
He supports the federal reserve and believes it helps the working class.
That's ALL you have to know about this piece of shit.
>Socialism isn't slavery.
Yes it is.
>That's why we have a constitution.
Exactly, we need a republic, not a pure democracy.
>lol
LOL
>He's a libertarian/anarchist.
Not really.
He's an extreme socialist authoritarian that wants dictatorships of "syndicates".
>He's admitted that Castro and some other left wing dictators did a few decent things, but that's just acknowledging history.
They did nothing good.
>the linguist talks in circles
>does a 4 hour verbal book report on "Green Eggs and Ham" using nothing but the most ancient of archaic terminology
He is basically a GOD Sup Forums
>He is basically a GOD Sup Forums
He's a commie piece of shit.
I'm going to give you a tip. When you bait. Make it at least kinda look like a real argument would. It's more fun that way.`
But did he name the joo
>support a meme ideology
>calling anything a meme
>I'm going to give you a tip.
How? You have no money. You're a socialist.
You're one of those redditors that gets asspained when people criticize your leftist idols that your tiny brain thinks people who do that are "trolling"?
Pathetic.
Any right winger worth a damn ever debated him?
>Any right winger worth a damn ever debated him?
He refuses to debate with actual libertarians and economists.
He prefers to stay in his socialist fantasy world.
Remember, this piece of shit praised Hugo Chavez and Venezuela.
Now he actually says the reason Venezuela is failing is because capitalists are sabotaging it.
He's SERIOUSLY that stupid and lacking in self awareness.
What's trend here that makes you all argue about labels?
>it's socialism!
>it's capitalism!
Is this /pol?
Chomsky would be disappointed
Pinochet did nothing wrong.
this
i can git behind
Zizek is incredibly fucking delusional and a true believer in his meme ideology.
He deserves a free helicopter ride.
>Chomsky would be disappointed
I hope chomsky gets his skull smashed in.
That's disappointing. I feel like a lot of the smartest people on the right end up debating leftists of a much lower caliber
Chomsky thinks anarchcommies are "a gift to the far right" so you should become an hero
>What's trend here that makes you all argue about labels?
Maybe because they're accurate?
Do you have a problem with language or something?
>violence
Fuck your bait, or should I say, ideology
>the ideophone ribuy-tibuy, from the northern Indian language Mundari, describes the sight, motion and sound of a fat person’s buttocks as he walks to the designated shitting street
He's a gatekeeper. Supports official 9/11 version.
Hello politically anonymous,
I have come here today to shill for the 1% so they can continue to dominate the working class for their own benefit. Please buy Noam Chomsky’s book and keep paying your taxes.
Regards,
Your Friend
>Fuck your bait, or should I say, ideology
>muh ideology
You people are like robots.
Marxism is the most cultlike ideology in the world.
Lost his referendum, pushed out of DICKtatorship, hunted and ran like a scared bunny until the bloated end of his life.
>I have come here today to shill for the 1% so they can continue to dominate the working class for their own benefit.
If we abolished the central bank(something chomsky and marxist shitstains like yourself don't want to do) and implemented free markets, the working class would have their living standards constantly increase.
I hate American capitalism.
*Stays in America to make money
>You people
Who said anything about Marxism?
He liberalized the market somewhat and killed a bunch of commies.
He's an okay guy in my book.
If he was redpilled on our side of the story he would be a strong intellectual, but it's easier the way he does it rehashing broken leftist theories from the 80's.
Zizek is a marxist, one of the dumbest religions in the world.
You're not?
You defend him.
>Who is Newton?
>Who is Copernicus?
>How does science work?
trying to design an ideal social system is so 60s.
society is a chaotic group of diverse people; nobody can control or predict its dynamics.
Free markets suck dick.
"If I gave away my car, I would feel even more guilty. When I go to visit peasants in southern Colombia, they don't want me to give up my car. They want me to help them. Suppose I gave up material things -- my computer, my car and so on -- and went to live on a hill in Montana where I grew my own food. Would that help anyone? No."
Chomsky political opinion generator:
> Learn what position the US government has taken
> Take opposite position
> Create arguments about why the US action is "imperialist"
But at least he is anti-post-modernist and anti-relativist.
>list a bunch of either socialist or statist shitholes with no economic freedom
>claim they're free market
>list of bunch of mostly economically free countries
>claim they're socialist
>be incredibly mad over the objective fact that the more economically free a nation is, the higher living standards are on average
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Why are you utter wastes of life so fucking pathetic?
Lost his referendum, pushed out of DICKtatorship, hunted and ran like a scared bunny until the bloated end of his life.
Chomsky is pretty informed usually but what is his stance on immigration?
He liberalized the market somewhat and killed a bunch of commies.
He's an okay guy in my book.
You sound like a butthurt leftist nitpicking and pretending you guys didn't get utterly BTFO.
I can only assume this comment was meant to substantiate my point.
Free markets with social safety nets you fucking dingle butt. Social democracy is what your preaching.
The free markets without social safety nets are shitholes.
Anyone that doesn't support free markets and the abolishment of central banking deserves a free helicopter ride.
How?
Zizek is a comedian to me
Just because I used him to make an observation doesn't mean I ascribe to what he says for every experience.
>Free markets with social safety nets you fucking dingle butt.
Those "social safety nets" are completely unnecessary.
The working class would be much better if those things were privatized, especially healthcare.
In USA, healthcare used to be incredibly cheap and high quality in the 50s and 60s back when it was a free market system.
The government took it over and now it's an expensive shitshow.
anarchosyndicalism a stupid fucking meme that is completely unsustainable
Healthcare is better in free markets.
>The free markets without social safety nets are shitholes.
Why is Switzerland so fucking successful and rich then?
They have privatized healthcare.
well you´re right, democratic socialism is still socialism and therefore it´s shit
only freedom in my opinion is the best option, and using democracy for things that are not really that important
If you don't understand you're exactly as dumb as your flag indicates.
"People don't want me to live in the way I espouse, they want me to keep my fancy things to help their dumb asses".
>Those "social safety nets" are completely unnecessary.
You realize every single one without them were shitholes.
Name a free market society without social safety nets that wasn't.
He did endorse the book, "the Holocaust Industry". I'll give him that. And he hates Zizek, so that's another point in his favor.
Name a free market society without social safety nets 1st.
>Chomsky is right about pretty much everything politically.
t. edgy college kid who hasn't read moldbug yet
If you want to play that game. Name a free market society period.
>You realize every single one without them were shitholes.
What?
The countries you listed?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy fuck.
Do you not realize countries need to be developed and rich before they can even AFFORD government healthcare.
You're putting the cart before the house.
Those countries with government healthcare are some of the most economically free in the entire world. Their economic freedom is why they could even afford government healthcare.
The other countries you listed are extremely economically UNFREE and thus never developed and thus can not afford government healthcare.
Are you actually saying having or not having government healthcare is the reason countries are poor or not poor?
LMAO
name a free market society.
USA during the "gilded age"
Highest living standard in the entire world for workers.
Workers came from all over europe to work in American factories.
For 30 straight years, wages ROSE while prices FELL.
Exactly. Free market and safety nets cannot coexist unironically.
Are you saying these countries were free markets before the social safety nets? Source?
>Are you saying these countries were free markets before the social safety nets? Source?
Absolutely.
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Sweden had FREE MARKET BANKING for a very long time and that's what made them so rich.
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Even TODAY if you disregard their government healthcare, they are some of the most economically free countries on earth.
www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Switzerland doesn't even have government healthcare and their people have better healthcare than basically all of europe. ZERO waiting lines.
Fucking rights. The mysterious period no one can seem to speak upon, pre the 1960's insane immigration change where the USA was 90% + white and kicking ass in every metric.
Also Sweden and Norway are top 10 places to do business in in the world.
The economy went up because of the second industrial revolution not because of the free market.
>second industrial revolution
The "free market" is what caused the second industrial revolution to happen you giantic retard.
The USA had FREE BANKING from 1870s to about 1913.
Freest economy in the world.
Most economically productive in the world.
Highest wages in the world for workers.
Stop being a commie, holy shit you're brainwashing yourself.
No no, every measurable metric of a good life went down at that point because of government intrusion upon the concept of a free market.
BASED PINOCHET
ABSOLUTELY BASED THANK YOU PINOCHET
this, tbqh
>unsourced graph
>using GDP as a measure of economic growth(lol)
>mad about the fact that chile is a successful market economy today with the highest living standards in south america
>yo niggers should really get the fuck out
>muslims and kikes too
based Noam Chomsky
I don't know his stance on immigration generally, but his position on accepting refugees is basically that we have a responsibility to help them if our government has had a hand in destabilizing their country, or in supporting oppressive, genocidal regimes. I don't necessarily agree with him, but it's a valid argument that would best be quelled by nonintervention imo.
Yes, thank you based pinochet.
what are you trying to prove you delusional autist?
>Chomsky is pretty informed usually
No he's not.
He's a delusional socialist that defends socialist regimes.
LE HELICOPTER MEME
wtf I love living in NATO-shielded Europe now
He said basically "Scientific data doesn't matter, let whomever in, I'm a fucking Jew".
BTFO
Tangent question: Is Chomsky a philosopher?
I have read not all but a great deal of his work as a fan. And I understand his contribution to linguistics, and some may argue especially after the "linguistic turn" in analytic philosophy that linguistics had merged with philosophy (similar to the 19th c. view that philosophy should be over taken by empirical psychology). I consider him to be a great historian and critic of recent politics, but does that make him a philosopher? When I saw his debate with Foucault on Dutch tv he was obviously the victor of the argument, but Foucault is a fool, and both were talking at cross purposes. Asking again, not in an argumentative way, is a philosopher or a political thinker? Or neither?