Wanting a large and oppressive government

> Wanting a large and oppressive government
> Wanting restricted individual liberties
> Being unable to criticize or reform the government
Literally cuckoldry: The Political Ideology.

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You are a kike liar Nat Soc is not what you say here's a start to what it is Hitler was right see:
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>benevolent dictator/king making all decisions for his country and people

vs.

>bureaucrats easily subverted and exploited by (((them))) who only care about getting paid off and keeping their position

which sounds more cucked to you senpai

lol
so you want:
>a small government incapable of taking action
>freedom to detriment society and shart yourself
>commies uprisings daily

>allow for freedom to be degenerate
>society becomes filled with degenerates
>they vote to take away your freedoms
The alternative isn't sounding all that great to me.

>bunch of statist rhetoric
>thinks it makes any difference because you make it sound "nice"

>.com

Lol

This proves everything wrong with fascism.
>implying dictators cannot be subverted

All states benefit from degeneracy. Thats why the nazis told everyone to fuck constantly.

National Socialism is freedom from Jewry
youtu.be/uiO_ZT5bSqk

Fucking actually produces children for the nation.

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>You are a kike liar
I think you're a little to young for this board

>ywn know this feel

It keeps us safe.

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Because that worked out for china >3rd position

The 3rd position is still a state based on gibs, all socialiam is for niggers.

Although they try to distance themselves from regular socialism, they share the same rebuttal when shown the ridiculousness of their political ideology.

Thats not real (National) Socialism

People are just edgy and hate kikes. They don't realize that you can follow a non-retarded ideology and still be racist.

The price you pay not to have to deal with kikes, spics, and niggers.

It's actually worth it in the end, as you see how the alternative have ended up.

>cuckoldry
>when you let a nigger fuck your daughter because you he's based

K. bye

cause you have a dick doesn't mean to be a prick asshole

>Wanting a large and oppressive government
Would not affect me. It would not be large anyway, because the federal system is gleichgeschaltet
>Wanting restricted individual liberties
Would not affect me
>Being unable to criticize or reform the government
No need for that

Give me American fascism: where Americans zealously worship the founding fathers, constitution, and the philosophical ideals that spurred its creation.

This alone would solve the fascism-liberty conundrum. God Bless America

It has worked out for China.

Hitler is just a meme used to trigger normies, only a retard would actually want a socialist government.

While the non alternatives ended up dead?

T. German

>worshipping anyone but god

OP is retarded and doesn't care for the continued and ensured existence and improvement of his race. Something that gives meaning to society and grants himself and his children a destiny to strive for.
He is seeing things for how good they are rather than how great they could be, and because of this he is talking of his rights rather than his duty to ensure his family and peoples future at all costs.

How do you figure?

kys burger. LONG LIVE REICHSKOMMISSARIAT OSTLAND!

China issn't though position though

What?

They haven't been importing foreign races into their nation for a labor force and their economy has been growing quickly.

I meant China isn't third position though. Its Socialist

Imagine that you have a perfect ideology but some people might oppose it out of ignorance.
This is why the state must be authoritarian.

Yeah they just use their kids until they die lol

China is pretty damn fascist
>single party state
>private property exists but is controlled by the government to serve the interests of the nation
>the nation has its own internet to keep out foreign influences
>propaganda is everywhere and military marches are routine, instilling a sense of loyalty and pride in the people
>the Chinese government is attempting to bring back Chinese culture after communism destroyed much of it
>scientific progress is highly valued and the nation is making great strides in the fields of AI, genetic engineering, and space exploration
>foreign elements such as Islam and Christianity are suppressed or controlled by state churches
>the nation values military strength and is making efforts to ensure that its security is defended through military power

>implying that this worship doesn't generate the creator above all else.
>God bless America doesn't mean anything to you.

If an ideology has people opposing it so much that you need to control them then it's not perfect

Sorry man I don't like any form of socialism
No hard feelings please

Where's the meme that says China isn't unironically communist

Fascism is supposed to be hinged upon a higher ideal that uplifts humanity; it is fundamentaliy esoteric and nonmaterialistic. China lacks this.
They are simply militant, materialist communists; the same way the soviets were.

Oh, you're the "china is fascist" user, sick of getting ran put of /his/?

I've never posted in /his/, has someone been posting that greentext over there?

It's a view completely hinged upon a lay man's understanding of fascism, I.e. Based on propoganda of how we depict our enemies.

We've been trying Enlightenment values for only a few hundred years and look at the mess we've put ourselves in.

>single party state
Marxist/Leninism is one state and is what is China's current goverment is based off
>private property exists but is controlled by the government to serve the interests of the nation
Just like USSR
>the nation has its own internet to keep out foreign influences
Just like USSR censoring other media
>propaganda is everywhere and military marches are routine, instilling a sense of loyalty and pride in the people
Just like USSR
>the Chinese government is attempting to bring back Chinese culture after communism destroyed much of it
That was attempts of mao to push communism hard and it obviosuly didn't work, anyway USSR also liked it's culture
>scientific progress is highly valued and the nation is making great strides in the fields of AI, genetic engineering, and space exploration
Just like USSR
>foreign elements such as Islam and Christianity are suppressed or controlled by state churches
Just like USSR
>the nation values military strength and is making efforts to ensure that its security is defended through military power
Just like USSR

All of that is Marxist/Leninism policy.

>In the context of the theory of Marxist revolutionary struggle, vanguardism is a strategy whereby the most class-conscious and politically advanced sections of the proletariat or working class, described as the revolutionary vanguard, form organizations in order to draw larger sections of the working class towards revolutionary politics and serve as manifestations of proletarian political power against its class enemies.

too tru for me

>Socialism with Chinese characteristics, meaning Marxism–Leninism adapted to Chinese conditions, is the official ideology of the Communist Party of China (CPC), claimed to be based upon scientific socialism. The term means Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, Three Represents, Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought; that is, if you want to introduce socialism with Chinese characteristics in practice you have to implement, for instance, Xi Jinping Thought (which is a set of Marxist policies to implement socialism).

>The socialist market economy is the economic model employed by the People's Republic of China. It is based on a predominant state-owned sector within an open market economy originating in the Chinese economic reforms introduced under Deng Xiaoping. The ideological rationale for this system is that China is in the "primary" or "preliminary" stage of socialism, an early stage within the socialist mode of production, and therefore has to adapt capitalist techniques to thrive in a global market system. Despite this, the system has widely been cited as a form of state capitalism

>Ah yes, I sure do love being exploited by multi-national corporations! Shame we couldnt do anything about not exploiting us, because that would... INCREASE THE GOVERNMENT SIZE
>who cares if I'm going to be demographically replaced? I have my individual rights! Oh wait, not anymore
Democracy is worst meme of all time. Go ahead and disprove pic related

And, like the USSR, China will never progress to true socialism and is making no attempt to do so.

Well that's not an argument of China being fascist that's an argument of Marxist/Leninism being shit or socialism being an unreachable goal. China ain't fascist it's Marxist/Leninism with "Chinese characteristics"
>Maoism (Third Worldism) (often stylized as Maoism-Third Worldism or simply MTW), not to be confused with Third Worldism generally, is a broad tendency which is mainly concerned with the infusion and synthesis of Marxism—particularly of the Marxist–Leninist–Maoist persuasion—with concepts of non-Marxist Third Worldism, namely dependency theory and world-systems theory.

Op is a jew sage and move on.

government sucks at everything except military, no thanks

>the people are nero
>who are the founding fathers
The problem isn't the Republic, but the corrupt rulers and limpwristed Citizens who let them get away with it.

>muh libberdies so i can earn money like a good goy for Mr. Shekelberg while the kike owned media tells my daughter twerking is trendy and dating black boys is so cool and hip before you get laid off because some Pajeet is cheaper than you

Amerimutts are an amoral race of servile and obedient kike slaves

You cannot elect a leader. You can only elect a follower.

There's a lot of calls for value judgments embedded in that definition (e.g., "is this economic policy good for the nation?). And we're to assume that unelected bureaucrats are to make those value judgments. We're further to assume that they will do so in good faith. This flies in the face of reality. The reality as we know it is that entrenched government bureaucrats become cliquish and increasingly divorced from the concerns of the people proportionate to the time they spend ensconced in the powers and privileges of their office. I think fascists place far too much trust in the abstraction that if a nation is founded on sound ideals, that the bureaucrats charged with furthering those ideals will do so. Even more preposterously, they do this in nations that have completely undermined that naive notion.

This. The only saving grace of Natsoc is the adhererance to a higher principle and ideal and the facilitation of this aim in the government/cultural structure. When people long for the 3rd Reich they aren't asking for their freedoms to be restricted, but they're longing for a culture that has a direction and meaning, a national identity the glorifies and unified its citizenry. Such a system is possible without outright rejecting our fundamental human rights, but it takes strong men working together to pull it off.

>And we're to assume that unelected bureaucrats are to make those value judgments. We're further to assume that they will do so in good faith.

Not to assume. To hope. To strive.

To not give up and wallow in mediocrity.

What on God's green earth could be more mediocre than a government bureaucrat? And what could you expect but mediocrity from such a mediocre lot?

>ywn be told to walk around to the other path by a 6'3 qt Jewess

>tfw Nazis inspected my great grandfather and determined him and his family untermensch slavs and sent them to Siberia

G-guess I'm not Germanic ubermensch then and will never be

>What on God's green earth could be more mediocre than a government bureaucrat?
A democrat.

well said. the problem with these topics seems that we need to regurgitate massive amounts of information to be able to have a reasonable debate with the indoctrinated, if they haven't done the research there really seems no point. Easy to see the victims of propaganda scrolling through here.

That's the thing, the problem the Germans were dealing with at its core wasn't a problem of the system itself, it was a problem of demography/ideology. Political solutions to problems are as a general rule superficial, politics is downstream not only from culture but basically everything else.