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What, people aren't allowed to be successful?

1% simply defines the amount of income someone makes. It doesn't define the person in that amount of income. America is an economy and people are constantly losing and making money

Hi I don't work, I see the work it takes to become rich and I have a fit. Must be the system, not me.

I wonder how much of that 1%er wealth is in the form of factories or other means of production which have little immediate value but instead allow the 99% to convert their own existence into wealth?

Do you truly think communisn would help?
And not just make it harder for someone to become weathly, whilst making the wage gape even wider?

How would this be different under any other system?

>durr I'm worth as much as 3.5 billion people, I definitely earned every cent of it

Trumpcucks everyone.

How many of those people live in a free country? If your argument against capitalism is that the Saudi royal family has a large concentration of the worlds wealth.... Well that's a pretty weak argument, bud.

He, I am not as poor as like 95% of this worlds population.
I'm the top 5%.

Oy vey! how anti semetic!

What does communism have to do with it? Socialism works just fine in European countries.

Value is not a finite resource, it is created. Those who create more deserve more.

Are people not allowed to have money?

1 white man is certainly worth 3.5 billion shit skins

Boom. QED. /thread

What does their Earnings Statement say?

Come back when you have a basic understanding of basic economics.

Maybe examine your morals system. Do you have any idea how much $1 billion could do for a country? Instead it's being saved to a single person. There's no reason why any one person should have access to that kind of money. No matter how much they "earned it". You could feed and clothe half the world with the money these people have.

>Rich people are rich
News at 11

Oh look, more proof people have no idea what the difference is between wealth and money and use them interchangeably.

It's weird how these deceptive commie memes don't even bother to be accurate. Two jewish families, the Jewchild's and Kiekfellers own far more than 50% of world's wealth alone.
Why do they not make any mention of that little fact?
You would think that people who are obsessed with money would mention the fact that over 50% of world's wealth is owned by two jewish families.

Instead of sharing that red pill they share this blue pill deceptive statistic. ''The 1% owning 50%'' doesn't really mean much. If you live in a first world country and own your own house then you are already in the 1%. It's just bad propaganda and it doesn't really do anything for you if you have a functional brain and you can dissect the propaganda.

So op who do you think sets the value of money?
Could it be wealth is determinant by how much credit you have with the (((Jews))) So how you gonna redistribute it. Kill whitey right revolution right fuck you

Money is largely an illusion, sorry. Digits
on a screen will not feed ppl.

>Canada is largely an illusion, sorry. dude weed will not feed ppl.

So you’re telling me all I have to do Is eliminate 49.9% of everyone else and I’ll be part of the 100%

How anti-semitic, oy gevalt.

Who said Capitalism is perfect? Its just less shitty than the alternatives.

It's a giant fucking failure, like every other system.

Humans have a problem with the greed thingy,
since the dawn of time.

user, I....you already are apart of the 100%, and if you kill all but top 99 of the richest you would be the poorest person in the world.

nice get but I already did the jew thing

No. But some of the 1% will not longer be so.

You need more people poorer than you to move you into the 1%.

The world doesn't need more poor people.

(((WHO))) are the 1% then?

They never answer this question.

>da evil white men in power

this is a misdirection

> need poor people
> doesn't need poor people

Mk...."the world doesn't need more money"that's what you sound like, phag.

when half the world are retarded sub-humans it's really not surprising

You're pulling numbers out of your ass. It's hard to put a number on these kikes' wealth since they're so secretive. Commies are accussed of being 'anti-semites' by the chosen as much as Nazi LARPers, if not even more (since neo-reactioanry neo-Nazis today tend to be Zionists).

Actually, revolution is about getting rid of the bourgeoise (mostly white and (((Jewish)))). But it is a unity of the whole workers of the world which includes whites in the struggle against (((them))) (aka: porky).

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

This.

Prudent people build wealth and imprudent people "spend money".

Money is just a number.

Donald Trump eats two scoops, not two million.

That's not what that says you retard.

if we kill them all and reimbue the wealth into the economy we will all have an opportunity for success.

> flag

Still don't realize they are the same person, the misdirector and the villian portrayed.

It's not misdirection, it's a confession...look at your country, m8!

Are you a stealth commie? Who do you think creates the wealth? The owner who doesn't even know what his company produces or how the process works? The leech investors that only care about the check in their inbox quarterly?

The WORKER is the one who creates wealth. So, why should porky get to keep it?

"The mine owners "did not find the gold, they did not mine the gold, they did not mill the gold, but by some weird alchemy all the gold belonged to them!"

Capitalism is just another jewish economical (and also political) theory, just like communism and natsoc, both were created as scarecrows to show that "Capitalism is the best economical-political idea, dear goyim, see: it is not totalitarian at all, we even allow some of you, goyim, to become successful like us, too".

Jews should be gassed and jewish capitalism should be replaced with new theory, fair for every white human, which will help both poor and wealthy whites.

Not only do you fail at basic mathematics but you didn't even comprehend the image you posted correctly.

This is your average socialist.

There are more than 100 people alive.

Owning the mine alone is pretty useless if no one is willing to mine for you.
Or if not as much gold was in it to justify the cost.
It is a gamble the man did with his own wealth, the worker did not.

My moral system doesn't involve stealing.

They got the money homie, the fuck you gonna do about it? Nothing, that's right pussy you won't do nothing LOL!

This delusion is mindboggling.
Kikes in the west are overwhelmingly leftist. Most Marxist professors are kikes.
Your system has been tried multiple times and ended in failure. Fuck off back to leftypol.

There's literally nothing wrong with income inequality. Your stupid monkey brain says "if that person has way more resources than me I'm going to fucking starve to death reeeee" because for 99.99999% of human existence there was only so much resources in the immediately physical area to feed each person and if you knew of someone hogging all the resources for themselves that really did mean the person right next to you in your small tribe of 50 people was most likely stealing food from people and letting them fucking starve to death so you evolved to get angry about it and want to steal back from them.

However in the modern world I can know of a man who has LITERALLY a million times the resources that I do and it has no effect on my life because I'll never meet him and my life is still fucking amazingly easy. The only person who would be in trouble would be someone who has a million times LESS resources than me, except modern society is so fucking easy that person could still buy a meal at McDonalds and won't starve to death.

And that's still discounting that you can have literally no resources at all in the modern west and you can just go to a homeless shelter and a charity/the state will give you free money because capitalism is so amazing we have excess capital to just give away to anyone who says they're in-need.

Meanwhile if you retarded commies fucked up the economy by redistributing the riches wealth then thats when your inner retard monkey gets its wish and you are back in an environment where you are actually fucking starving to death and everything is a survival situation and you need to steal to live

>The owner who doesn't even know what his company produces or how the process works?

Lol fuck off, you couldn't manage a company given a hundred years to prepare, meanwhile literal children can be a manual worker because there's nothing special about it.

>2017
>not being third position

I REALLY wish these 1% faggots would stop donating money to feed niggers and fund leftist collages, and use that money to make a bio engineered virus to kill 99% of humanity.

Everybody else LITERALLY is not trying hard at all. If you tried even a little bit you would be making 6 figures in America. If you tried "actually hard", you would pretty much be rich.

Fuck your laziness-promoting numale-designed infographics.

Yes, people aren't equal for a big number of reasons. What is the problem?

So Qaddafi was based all along?

That's a good point my German friend.

HOWEVER...

...you fail to realize something. A workers' state could do the same thing. We don't need the HOLY ALMIGHTY JOB CREATORS at all. Slay the pigs. Also, as the worker, I don't give a FUCK what the owner went through. I want the full fruit of my labor, which is being extracted from me. Read up on Stirner and despook yourself.

If it has failed, why has the (((ZOG))) spent all its efforts trying to destroy workers' movements at home and abroad? Let's start here. They destroyed labor unions and workers' movements which were HUGELY popular in the US. Now they have indoctrinated good goyim cucks like you to defend a system that does not work for your benefit.

Abroad they have fought hard against, the Soviet Union since it's conception (during the civil war), Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, China, etc... if the system doesn't work, why do they need to attack it before it is able to crash itself? And curiously, it's not ONLY commies whom (((they))) will attack, it's ANYONE who opposes their hegemony.

If the system ends up in failure, how was the Soviet Union able to challenge the (((ZOG))) (((US))) and create a bipolar world until (((they))) were able to destroy it from within through the use of traitors?

Hmmm, really made me think.

>It's not misdirection, it's a confession...look at your country, m8!

You realize my country is ruled by the media, right? more specifically the bonnier media group.

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But that's just a coincidence right?

Would you "steal" if it meant you could save billions of people? What if I told you that the rich 1% will not die if a few billions are taken from them, but millions more people will die if we don't. It is for the good of humanity that we help the people in need.

and somehow they are from israel right?

The poorest half of the world is nothing but starving niggers.

Fuck them.

We don't live under capitalism you stupid fuck.

Most countries in the world are economically unfree and thus not capitalist.

not everyone here is as poor as you lmao

get a job, kid

>europe is socialist
This is how you spot a brainwashed american.
These people are so stupid I'm surprised they know how to breathe.

>6 figures
>thinking that even gets you in the top 50%
>trying to speak about economics

1% of the people have 50% of the money. Yet poverty has been reduced by 80% globally. The third world is rapidly industrializing. Society is empirically and measurably getting better for everyone, not just the people at the top.

The constant, unceasing drone of leftist whining never ceases to amaze me. What the fuck has your side done for us? Mass famines? Slaughter on a hitherto unseen scale? Social revolutions that objectively solve NOTHING?

Constantly you hear this one point harped on and on about: Inequality. Nevermind that things get better for everyone, they get better for some people faster, so this is a good reason to HALT the entire process?

Why? Are you implying that things got better for Soviet Russians faster than they did for the United States of America? On what grounds? Are you implying that things got better in China faster and less violently than they did in India? On what grounds? Ever heard of the Four Pests? How many times did 50 million Hindus starve to death in the last hundred years?

Our system WORKS. It isn't perfect, but we can at least say it works at all, which Communists and Socialists cannot claim. Your system does not work. It's an abject failure, which is why we kicked the shit out of you and are now happily fixing all of your problems whether you like it or not.

Set aside our benevolence at your fucking peril. I honestly don't care what you think anymore, but I do care what you do, and if you come for my property, I'll kill you. That's all there is to it. It ain't 1918 Russia anymore buddy. You're not getting a shot like that again.

Sage for not politics. Leftism isn't politics it's creationism except it killed more people.

correct statement
id say fuck them but not to procreate with them unless we go by selective breeding

Communists deserve to suffocate.

We need to kill them all so we can have economic freedom.

>The WORKER is the one who creates wealth. So, why should porky get to keep it?

This is the fact that DESTROYS commies:
The working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
Taking all of the wealth from the capitalists will only cause massive inflation.

Your entire ideology is POINTLESS

Kill yourself

>...you fail to realize something. A workers' state could do the same thing. We don't need the HOLY ALMIGHTY JOB CREATORS at all. Slay the pigs. Also, as the worker, I don't give a FUCK what the owner went through. I want the full fruit of my labor, which is being extracted from me. Read up on Stirner and despook yourself.


>A STIRNERITE MARXIST

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>"The mine owners "did not find the gold, they did not mine the gold, they did not mill the gold, but by some weird alchemy all the gold belonged to them!"

But didn't the miners get paid to find the gold for the owner? What if the miners don't have the required expertise to properly sell the gold for profit?

Capitalism is cooperation

>ABLOO ABLOO MUH NOT REAL CAPITALISM

Bahahaha, you mad faggot? Sorry, your shitty brainlet ancestors were too dumb to play ball with big cats and now you're a filthy poorfag peasant. THIS is capitalism, where the rich become richer, and more powerful. Deal with it you bottom-feeder cuck.

>The constant, unceasing drone of leftist whining never ceases to amaze me. What the fuck has your side done for us? Mass famines? Slaughter on a hitherto unseen scale? Social revolutions that objectively solve NOTHING?

Workers' rights, weekends off, vacations, etc... all thanks to "MUH LEFTISTS", faggot.

>Our system WORKS

That's right goy! It works SOOO good, just as intended (for the KIKES and the CAPITALISTS!). That's why productivity increases and increases but wages GO DOWN.

>Le no argument meme ideology

Literally neck yourself, and fuck off with your 100% (((kosher))) ideology, shabbos goy.

>Le CIA cuck spic

BAHAHHAHA. What a cuck. Neck yourself.

(((1%)))

>Bahahaha, you mad faggot?
AHHAHAH You mad faggot?
The vast majority of the world is not free market, they heavily restrict trade.
Look at Africa.

>THIS is capitalism, where the rich become richer, and more powerful. Deal with it you bottom-feeder cuck.
The explain why living standards for the working class have constantly increased over the past 200 years?
LOL

>Workers' rights, weekends off, vacations, etc
Economic production is what did that LOL
Higher living standards means people opted for jobs with lower hours and more time off.

>Literally neck yourself,
Communists will all suffocate and be tortured to death in my lifetime lmao
Feels great man.
You couldn't even refute my argument about the 99% consumer goods.
Taking over the means of production will not benefit the working class.
Please explain how the working class can magically get more than 99% of what they produce?

AHAHAHAHA

>>Le CIA cuck spic
LOL Pinochet killed so many fucking commies and it must trigger the shit out of you.

Wait, so greedy poor people are hoarding an entire 50% of all the wealth? Something should be done about this.

You are part of the poorest half you dumb fuck. So is probably everyone On this board.

It's hilarious watching these marxist manchildren squirm as their retarded arguments are destroyed.

>communism is inevitable because muh automation
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

>A workers' state could do the same thing. We don't need the HOLY ALMIGHTY JOB CREATORS at all. Slay the pigs. Also, as the worker, I don't give a FUCK what the owner went through. I want the full fruit of my labor, which is being extracted from me. Read up on Stirner and despook yourself.
So instead of individuals taking risk and gaining the reward you want to risk everybodys money.

Dumb consequentialist. I bet you think it's perfectly fine to murder 1 person to give organ transplants for 5 sick people so they live.

>So instead of individuals taking risk and gaining the reward you want to risk everybodys money.
THIS

They think capital is infinite and there is no risk at all to production.

They think the entire economy is static and not dynamic.

>How many of those people live in a free country?

The big problem is due to the lack of credible records of property ownership. When you have multiple parties disputing ownership it either enriches lawyers/corrupt officials or leads to violence where one of the parties hires thugs to settle the dispute.

When property rights are documented, credible, and protected by the rule of law this allows people to sell, develop, or borrow against it.

Another problem in the third world is very large minorities don't have bank accounts and access to the financial system. Wealth is built when your money works for you and not the other way around.

Take all of this money from the rich and give it to the 99%.

What will happen.

Each person would get a few fucking dollars.
Big deal.

Also when they go to spend this money, it would just cause massive inflation LOL.

The working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
We consume what we produce.
There is no surplus value or any bullshit like that.

Marxism is fucking retarded.

>taking a small portion of a billionaire's wealth, which will not harm him AT ALL, is the same as killing him

Are Drumpfcucks really this stupid? How can you not see that there is NO loss of life or even much of any loss of wealth on the part of the billionaire when you tax him?

>That's why productivity increases and increases but wages GO DOWN.
Nope.
That's because of the central bank inflating any gains in productivity away.
Also making the entire economy less productive.
Productivity in america is NOT increasing.

>But didn't the miners get paid to find the gold for the owner?

They did. But the system degrades them into selling their labor and entering wage slavery in the first place. Second, the surplus value is extracted by the mine owner and investors. I could continue to throw arguments at you, such as the misplacement of resources in the capitalist mode of production.

If the miners don't, another worker might. We simply don't need the owner at all.

Socialism is TRUE cooperation. The miner is as important as other workers in a mine. They all labor in NECESSARY LABOR. That does not mean they should be compensated equally, no. In socialism you are truly awarded what you contribute. For example in Soviet Russia, miners would often retire earlier than most other professions because this profession is not only NECESSARY, but destroys the body. In capitalism, the miner would destroy his body and struggle to survive every day once he is no longer able to labor.

No you dumb nigger. It was worker unions and the example of Soviet Russia that made porky realize he better improve working conditions, or he will be bacon.

>Please explain how the working class can magically get more than 99% of what they produce?

Fuck off with your dumb jewconomics. You haven't even read up on socialism otherwise you would understand why your question is stupid in relation to socialism, and stop shitting up the thread with your multiple low quality replies.

>So instead of individuals taking risk and gaining the reward you want to risk everybodys money.

What risk is there in surveying for mines? It's socially necessary, it has to be done. There is no profit incentive, the incentive itself is the necessity. It's a command economy. "What exclusively determines the magnitude of the value of any article is therefore the amount of labour socially necessary, or the labour-time socially necessary for its production"

There's no loss of life but there is loss of economic productivity.

Taking wealth away from the rich and giving it to the 99% doesn't help the 99%, it just transfers purchasing power away from one segment of the 99% to another segment.

It most certainly does my man. 50th percentile is around $2000 a year globally, in the US alone it is $34000 for singles.

Fucking brainlet stop shitting up the thread with your low quality replies for fuck's sake.

You obviously don't understand what surplus value is. Socialism isn't about taking money from the rich, it's about the working class owning the means of production.

You're obviously not educated in your own shitty ideology, you're just shitting up the thread with le libertarian meme spic. You don't understand your own economic system, you don't understand socialism, Marxism, you don't understand anything. You're making a fool of yourself, please stop for your sake.

>Instead it's being saved to a single person.

Like in a big vault, just sitting there gathering dust? Through the goodness of its heart the bank builds a fortified structure, installs a expensive vault, and hires people to guard it?

This is bollocks. Banks make money by lending it. They have to keep a portion liquid (iicr about 8% capital adequacy) to meet demand for withdrawal, and a portion goes to deposit insurance, but the rest recirculates into the economy which the borrowers pay a fee called interest. It is from this that the bank earns its revenue to pay employees, tax, utilities and other the other costs of running a business. It is only after all these costs are paid that the owners get their cut, a share of the profit.

>and entering wage slavery in the first place
They are not forced to work, can they pick up a job with better work condition. Especially in a state with strict border rules so that you cant get an influx of low skill worker to be literally slaves. And for work that cant be outsourced (which is the case in your example).
And if a miner does especially good, the mine owner has an incentive to pay this guy more to teach the others how to do it or to keep him.
You can be the best in the world and still have to incentive to BE better because it doesnt improve your life.

>What risk is there in surveying for mines?
Wasted work hours. The mine owner pays miners for the CHANCE to find enough materials to make his money worth, you want to distribute this risk to everyone on the planet.
Also: The value of goods are determined by supply and demand and not by some calculation concerning the labour put into it.

>Would you "steal" if you could save billions of people?
Nope

>It was worker unions
Unions are fucking cancer.
They are labor cartels that artificially restrict the supply of labor and fuck over non-union members.

>and the example of Soviet Russia
Massive failure that made people slave away for a fascist military state. People there were poor as fuck compared with the west. It took like 20 years to be able to buy a piece of shit car.

>Fuck off with your dumb jewconomics.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
HOLY FUCK
It's called REALITY.
Do you honestly think there is a massive supply of consumer goods that the capitalists are magically keeping away from us?
Do you think money is magic or something?
HOLY FUCK MARXISTS ARE ACTUALLY THIS RETARDED

>You haven't even read up on socialism
Why do every single one of you faggots spew this when you are getting BTFO?
Of course we've read up on it.
It's a pile of horseshit. Dialectical materialism is pseudoscience. Surplus value is impossible because the working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
You can't get more than what is virtually everything.

>why your question is stupid in relation to socialism,
Why is my question stupid?
Because there is no money in socialism?
Okay, then why the fuck does marx whine about surplus value in the first place.
If this was actually a problem, even WITHOUT socialism, if the workers got their surplus value back in a market economy SURELY they would be able to spend this on themselves to better their lives, no?
You people are falling apart and it's so fucking funny.

>If it has failed, why has the (((ZOG))) spent all its efforts trying to destroy workers' movements at home and abroad?

Your ideology is overwhelmingly shilled by kikes. The Bolsheviks were all kikes funded by wealthy kike bankers in New York.

>You obviously don't understand what surplus value is. Socialism isn't about taking money from the rich, it's about the working class owning the means of production.
No shit you gigantic retard.
Then why the fuck does marx whine about surplus value in the first place?
If this was actually a problem, even WITHOUT socialism, if the workers got their surplus value back in a market economy SURELY they would be able to spend this on themselves to better their lives, no?

If getting surplus value back in a market economy is impossible then getting it back in a socialist society is impossible. Surplus value isn't fucking real.

>you're just shitting up the thread with le libertarian meme spic
TOP KEK
Why does the countless DEATHS of marxist shitstains trigger you so much?

>Your ideology is overwhelmingly shilled by kikes. The Bolsheviks were all kikes funded by wealthy kike bankers in New York.
THIS

>I don't understand economics
Ftfy commie.

Just wait until they find out everything in Iraq since Desert Shield, and everything Afghanistan since the 1970s, also involved Wall Street

The entire surplus value thing fails even on a basic math level.

It's a fact that the working class consume 99% of what they produce.
Do you depute this fact?
No?

How then could even in a socialist economy the workers suddenly get MORE consumer goods then they have previously gotten in a capitalist society if they are already consuming virtually everything?

Do you expect production to increase like 9999999999% or something magically?
Everyone knows socialist economies were extremely inefficient in production.

LOL

Think about this long and hard you fucking brainlet.