What does Russia even want?

What is the ideology of Russia? What do they want?

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They want to *not* be invaded.

The West was never going to invade them though.

Ukraine which has territorial claims on every one of their neighbours, except they can't even manage the clay they have already, just like Russia.

Does Ukraine claim Polish clay?

hell yeah

shit

Waiting for communism to make comeback. Also vodka.

>What is the ideology of Russia?
Byzantine symphony, aka alliance of Church and State.
>What do they want?
Neo-Westphalian multipolar world.

They just want to live normal and stop being threatened by Muricans and their NATO puppets. The Muricans keep telling "Russia is a threath" while they have bases all over the world and Russia has 2 bases Turkmenistan and Pakistan (both asked by their leaders to come and build as a safety measure against radicals)

>What do they want?
German brains combined with Russian natural resources.

Here is no ideology. That's why you do not know what Russia want. Russia do not know what Russia want.

In Russia ideology died long time ago.

to ruin the white man’s world with their slavic corruption

To kill the Zionists hopefully.

To be politically independent. Much harder than it sounds.

>What is the ideology of Russia?
Kleptocracy
>What do they want?
Distract rabble by international happenings while they clean up the budged and blame the following decrease in level of live on the western sanctions.

The same thing the west wants: globalism, only one where THEY are in charge. Neo-Soviet Union bacically. As Putin himself said in an interview: "I want to restore the glory of the USSR" - paraphrasing.
What a truly unique trait.

Why on earth would you want a multipolar world? Countries just solving all conflicts through military strength?

>what is geopolitics
They are bedfellows with Israel, every major player is. Lurk more.

Money. Their leaders just want to keep robbing everyone and they are triggered the world points it out.

Pretty sure they wouldn't have saved Assad from being overthrown if they were.
>think moar

So a collective rabble of bandits at the head of government?

Do you guys just not care anymore? Are you all burnt out or something? Is everything just a limp pale self-parody at this point post-USSR?

Like in most countries, but russia is the worst. Putin doesn't get much pay officially but is there's a big chance he's the richest person ever existed.

>geo
>politics
>geo-politics
The world is not as one sided as you might want it to be.
You REALLY should lurk more.

>What is the ideology of Russia?
Imperialism.
>What do they want?
Power.

all just like you. goyim have nothing to understand and nothing to solve

Ordinary people people just in fear. Corruption at a very high level. In the media, everything is bought

>What is the ideology of Russia?
Lies.

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I want manlet putin to go and hang himself

>Why on earth would you want a multipolar world?
Why on earth would you not?
>Countries just solving all conflicts through military strength?
As if it's not already the case.Tho there are also diplomatic means, economic means, but yes military means are very useful too.

Reported to the FSB

Because it's easier to talk about things than just shooting each other to death. We established this about 70 years ago.

At least their old sphere of influence. For a start, the destruction of NATO and the EU

Food
Shelter
Heat
Basic higene

>limp pale self-parody at this point post-USSR?
limp ugly pale

How can they be that deluded? Their "Flagship" of their navy has to have a tugboat atttached in case the engine breaks down, which it regularly does. NATO and even the EU could obliterate those slavic fucks in two weeks.

They want to screw the west so violently they break it off in our arse. Pootin is just alotta hot air.

Lmao
Lech do u know that I can say the same about Poland and it'll be true?

>HA-HA THESE RUSSIANS WILL NEVER DEFEAT OUR MIGHTY NAVhy are there T-90s in Paris

It doesn't really matter though because you'll never be allowed anyway near Poland without getting evaporated by NATO troops positioned in the East

save the white race now seriously probably world domination and to become one of the top players in the world. Also is Russia an expensive place?

Most of your land army is antiquated recycled shit from the 70s. Russia's Air Force is nothing compared to even the UK's in terms of capability and technology. And if you don't have those planes in the air, those T-90s are going nowhere.

Yeah, aside from those couple of times.

>regurgitating shit anyhow fitting with Russia circa 2005
>legitimately thinking Russia can't take on EU
Quite literally the only thing that could stop us is the US, they're stronger than us. If not them we could end up rolling through Europe. Plenty losses included, sadly.
Also,
>antiquated shit from the 70s
>implying that it is a must to replace your gear every X years
>implying a tank from 70s wouldn't do its job
>implying an AK from 70s wouldn't kill a man
>implying bombers from 70s wouldn't drop bombs
Is this the intended aging mentality taken to an extreme or are you just retarded?

Works in Argentina at least

You probably wouldn't believe that but our army is fucking bigger that yours in Eastern Europe

Russia is basically trying to assert itself as a player in international politics and avoid becoming another part of the west. Russia is actually taking other direction then Peter the Great and looking back into itself, its own traditions and civilisation, which is mix between Slavic, Orthodox - Greek with touches of Asian and Norse touches. Russia is refusing to accept western view of modernity and progress and trying to find its own way culturally and politically and like always before try to avoid neighbouring to other super power - Ukraine's attempt to move closer to EU triggered Russian significantly.

>What do they want?
power

You're delusional if you think the UK could beat Russia alone. If not for the nukes alone, yeah ok, Trident, bla bla bla, but that won't stop the isles from turning into fucking Swansea in half an hour.
Say it doesn't come to the UK fighting them. You're still giving up half of Europe again.

Important point:
We do not want the West to fall, or be enemies with the West. Thinking we have plans to conquer France or England or Germany is retarded.

>What is the ideology of Russia?
They don't have one. The Kremlin considers all ideology to be some sort of scam or a trick by the powerful to exploit and rule the masses. The only thing they care about is power, realpolitick and machiavelianess.

Spreading of gook monkey genes

Sounds like a great country already

>What do they want?

Sweet release of death.

Russia might be imperialist in nature, but it isn't colonialist. What Russia and the Russian people want is very simple. They want wealth and prosperity for a dignified populace. They are also cutthroat when faced with opposition and will cheat at poker without a second thought. Their perspective isn't hard to understand.

Some people want to see economic growth. Some people want to see Russia as a superpower. Putin just wants to be a president.

It looks like it's easy to make Russia weaker by embargo. Spending lot of money for military and some syrian/ukrainian purposes is kinda weird. It'd would be much better to have good relationship with the West to earn more money. The only thing I can understand is russian propaganda. It'd be hard to set a puppet state, wouldn't it?

>What is the ideology of Russia? What do they want?
Different groups want different things.
The group currently in power more or less realized they are not competent enough to solve any major domestic issue, so they got hooked up into this "geopolitics" bullshit instead to make themselves feel important and all.
The thing about 4D chess is that no one know the rules, so with a little faith and propaganda any result counts as a "win".

Their ultimate end game is to import BWC from the west to create a master race of BWC in the east

The answer is simple, russia wants to get rid of ethnic russian people who wants to be friends with Poles. They kept hostage poor ethnic russians for many decades already as well as they are constantly attacking Poland (luckily as for now not in a military way)

Even this Russian girl sings that she wants Russia to be Russian once again

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This is the value of life of ethnic Russians according to their gov.... 0$
Remember Kursk Submarine? refusing the help to rescue soldiers?
Remember 4 mil homeless kids?

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How does priviledged Russians live? They live in so called Kommunalka where 5 families share 1 apartment, each family gets 1 room.

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FREEDOM FOR ETHNIC PRO-POLISH RUSSIANS


one day we will liberate you from the oppressors, stay strong RussianBros

>top heroin consumer
Oh god. Isnt it because of big population?

Putin wants to save his power as long as he can, Putin wants to seem an important political figure opposed to the west. Ordinary russians want nothing, they don't care, they accustomed to live depressed.

Have you been banned in google or something? It's per capita:
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All of your sweet pink boipucci

Was going to come in here and say this. Putin and the other mafia/oligarchs don't really have an ideology. Everything they do is to acquire and hold on to power and wealth. That's it. There's no real grand strategy. It's not like with the Chinese and how the moves they make are for setting themselves up 50 years from now.

I don't know what does Russia want, but Russians want more money in their wallets.

Be careful with what you wish for.

>russians harbouring anything but jokes about the poles
>Russians wanting to be friends with Poland
AHAHAHA

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fpbp, they're not even trying to hide it

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I don't particularly think the world will get any better if Russia becomes yet another vassal of the Gay Disco Empire (like YOU currently are).

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It has been a mafia state since the beginning, seriously studying early Russian history at an academic level is the lolziest thing ever. They were founded by a group of Vikings that controlled the river paths from the North into Greece for raiding and robbery as opposed to trading as was commonly beloved, the Varangians were basically the first huge organized crime network that was predominantly Norse but accepted anyone it had Slavs Khazar jews Muslims christians etc. The Byzantine Empire hated the fuck out of the Rus who basically taxed all the Norse raids that were coming from the Mediterranean. Kiev was setup by Norse raiders as a sort of Las Vegas or Port Royale for Vikings and it was full of jewish merchants and prostitutes the Varangians levied a tac on all loot and trade coming in and had the vikings spend everything in Kiev and Novgorod on whores and entertainment. The successful expansion of the early Rus state worked because they had tens of thousands of mercenaries ready for work at all times busy whoring returning from raids drinking gambling and doing safari hunts on the local slav population all over their control territory

The destruction of the west

Too be left alone. Sadly, it seems it can only be possible over west turning to radioactive ash.

No ideology, no future. Sad!

i remember reading about them having an almost subconscious drive for expansion caused by them not having ready access to any desirable ports. does that sound familiar?

Can't the Canadian government take your kids away now if you misgender them or something?

Truly multipolar state of world guarantees that you will not get fucked by your own government because it needs your loyalty against enemies, as well as your good performance. While Globalist world on other has no treason not to turn you into subdued mongrel slave who have nowhere to run against his masters who own whole planet.

they want to be left alone. but don't want to leave alone. such is russia.

No warm-water ocean ports & no natural barriers is a pretty shitty situation to be in. The expansion & anchoring strategy is logical.

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It's pretty fucking simple what they want. What any empire wants. The complete geopolitical collapse of the US and the influence it has over the world. The expansion of Russian influence and the restoration of USSR projection.

Anything else is literally shilling. They don't care about worldwide Christian influence, they don't care about white brothers, they don't care about muhhh I just wanna be left alone, they don't care about multipolar world. They want Russian globalism. Russia to be a hyperpower like the US.

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>What is the ideology
Putinism

The chances of them achieving that are approximately 0, the chances of us ushering in the NWO are growing higher by the day. I'm on team Russia until the variables change DRASTICALLY.
>enemy of my enemy

>Czar Putin
>corrupt

no proofs

they don't have enough power to be the NWO but have enough to determine who gets to have the NWO from their perspective it's better to hop in the Chinese train in the first car rather than hop in the last car with the US

My understanding, which is not based on any specific study, is essentially Russia wants power and general prosperity but just refuses to bend the knee to the West.

Pretty much their entire strategy seems to be maximum regional influence, with maximum economic independence from the West driven by its natural resources, and in particular oil and natural gas pipelines. They want the Europeans buying all their resources, but that's the extent of the cooperation Russia wants with the West. This seems to be the reason they are buddy-buddies with Iran and the like. They are STRIVING to be the Yang to our Yin, if you will. Honestly, it seems like the old school Cold War guys, like Putin and his ilk, have to just die off for relationships to become productive again. We're past the Cold War people in the West - the last bastion being the Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfelds in the US - and Russia still has these glory days idealists running shit. That's the problem when people can be in power forever, they keep the same mentality.

>My understanding, which is not based on any specific study, is essentially Russia wants power and general prosperity but just refuses to bend the knee to the West.
And also refuses to solve all those pesky BORING difficult domestic issues with low productive, income inequality, human rights, representation, yada yada.
Naaah, geopolitics is much more FUN!

implying any government can make you into better people or to replicate 300 years of Western economic and social development. It's not Donald Trump's job to turn America's into a different set of humans or to create progress out of thin air and make shit happen from nothing. The government works with the human material that it has. Do you think that if the most enlightened wise dictatorship emerged in Uganda then the people would stop being niggers there

First, show your flag, shitlord.

Second, our government is actively preventing all and any grass roots movements and separation of branches of government because — you guessed it — that might lead to more competent people than them getting the office and/or even them getting prosecuted.

>aka alliance of Church and State.
do you even live in Russia?
if yes, where have you seen some sort of ultra-religious people? how mainstream is it?
from whats happening it doesnt look like people are taking the 10 commandements really serious, dont they?

>shill with polish flag in every russia thread with the same copypasta

They want to be the most powerful and influential nation on the planet, Currently that's the US, so they can't get what they want without taking us down a few pegs. That's why we can never be really close allies with Russia because they want to compete with us.