Make an argument against practicing incest

make an argument against practicing incest.

rules:
>both are adults
>both consent
>both use pill/condom

You don't want to smell your mother's cunt.

Awkward family meetings.

Mommy issues much?

Your mom gave birth to you only to go right back into the pussy you came out of? I think not.

Hello, Destiny.

there are more options for incest than one's own mom.

It leads to problems down the line. Humans a natural revulsion towards anything that hinders their spawns chances of thriving and survival.

Humans naturally are disgusted by it as a means of protection against incest. People who practice it are literally mentally ill

It's revolting.

Would you have gay incest with yourself if given the chance?

people who support it inevitably make threads like these in a pathetic attempt to find some form of validation from a Philippine dance narrative forum

that would not be incest, only masturbation and masturbation is A-O-KAY

You have a crush on your cousin, don't you user?

>rules:
>>both are adults
>>both consent
>>both use pill/condom

Fuck off. kys

not an argument

how does incest hinder that in any way?

wtf are you on about? I'm not even for it, but can you argue against it?

If you want to fuck your dad then just do it.

lmao

this is just an argument mate, not something relevant to my own life.

Slippery slope, not only are the pill and condom not a guarantee agianst pregnancy but just forgetting your condom or pill cud create some genetic fuck-up and the normalization of these fuckups would be next on the political agenda of these people

incest is great. you already know each other. and you don't have to go out.

why are both siblings using condom?

oooh

Because sex is about breeding. Breeding is about building a stronger version of yourself using stronger genetics. Incest causes weaker genes and the spawn having a lower chance of thriving In the environment. I get you wanna fuck your cousin man and that's cool. Just dont make it a family tradition or within a few generations they'll be fucked up.

kek

hello destiny.
Incest destroys the boundaries of love and nature. You must be severely addicted to masturbating if you even question the idea of having sex with someone in your own family. Serious perversion going on.

genetic defect chance with first generation incest babies is non-existant, and only relevant if you keep having incest babies for generations long non-stop.

otherwise having a kid with a strange woman who is 35yo or older is worse.

>Because sex is about breeding.
no you retard. go LARP elsewhere

>Incest destroys the boundaries of love and nature
no you retard. go LARP elsewhere

It literally boils down to what the bong says. Go ahead, do it, see how it works out for you in the long run.

>I'm not even for it
> something relevant to my own life.
Methinks the aquafresh doth protest too much

aquafresh #2 certain does provide clean teeth and fresh breath, in addition to being right.

Now go talk your strange swamp german language to each other.

>Methinks the aquafresh doth protest too much
upvote Reddit!

>thread is about making an argument against practicing incest
>people respond by making an argument
>"LALALA GO LARP ELSEWHERE"
>no argument made for practicing incest
If people who are in favor of incest are as smart as you, you're the only argument we'd ever need.

Um yes it is otherwise girls would go for fat poor guys just because a dick.

Deep down in out genetics we still recognize the need for a healthy mate so that our spawn has a higher chance of survival. Its not so much needed these days in modern humans but the basic urge is still there.

If you're actually attracted to your family you might be adopted

If you normalize and legalize incest then it will happen over multiple generations and then your society will start becoming third-world shitty like the middle-east. Also 1 shitty thing doesnt justify another shitty thing. The goal should be to reduce genetic defects and thus late-age pregnancies as well and not just create a dysgenic degeneracy spiral.

>>people respond by making an argument
except they don't make any arguments other than "muh feels" and memes about genetics that are entirely wrong.

Almost like.....gays
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>If you normalize and legalize incest then it will happen over multiple generations
sex =/= procreation

>everything i don't agree with is a meme
Le typical nedercuck meme.

The goal of sex is procreation u fucking neo-liberal brainlet. The orgasm is part of the means to encourage you to reproduce, not the end in itself which is the spread and continuation of your genes.

it's icky and gross OP, please stop being a faggot.

unlike you emotional homosexuals, I have looked up the statistics and the arguments ITT are literally memes


>The goal of sex is procreation
only in your fantasy books, you betafag virgin.

We all know that incest is rampant in the Middle East.

Fuck you Mahmoud.

Go to Sup Forums

Megarace kicked ass

>everyone I don't agree with, I just call muzzy so I don't have to make an argument
nice!

aye

Is wanting to fuck OP's sister a good enough reason?

The familial bond can create a power dynamic that can lead to rape by coercion, especially in the case of dad/daughter or mother/son. It's the same as teachers having sex with their age-of-consent students. The position of power creates an unhealthy relationship.

Does Biology fall under fantasy now?

they can still get preggos leading to damn mutie scum

>The familial bond can create a power dynamic that can lead to rape by coercion
nope. trash argument. both consenting adults

let's say they are literal twins and the same exact age :^)

a hammer is made to hit nails into wood. doesn't mean I can't use it to bash your skull in.
"it's for x, so you can't use it for y" is not an argument. also most sex doesn't result in procreation in the year of our lord 2017

So what you'll make incest legal if you use protection? How will you enforce that? It's already illegal to spread STDs knowingly (apart from california lol) but people do it anyway. Not to mention plenty of condoms break, birth control doesnt work sometimes and a lot of people don't believe in abortion, look at the nog population in America for example, combined with the STD count rivaled only by literal gays. If it was legalised/normalised people would start making the same arguments to have kids with their sisters and then do it anyway through ignorance or personal beliefs regarding protection (see black abortion rates) which would absolutely fuck the genepool, there would be a small minority of incest babies at first but due to the global attitude of "my feelings" 1st generation incest babies wouldn't be euthanised or anything and might even hide the fact they're genetic timebombs, go out and breed the next generation of downies with 3 thumbs.

see stop repeating memes you heard other repeating

Sex without procreation is degenerate. Incest should be practiced, but without contraception. The only catch is that defective offspring must be culled. This is how we develop animal breeds as inbreeding is the only way to distill the best characteristics of a genetic line.

>Inbreeding can lead to defects
>Its unnatural to want to fuck your family
Even bonobos the disgusting degenerates they are avoid parental child incest (less so with other incest because they have no way of knowing who is related since they are degenerates who have constant sex with every random bonobo).

>So what you'll make incest legal if you use protection?
I'm not gonna do shit. I just want you to make a rational argument against incest that doesn't have to do with religion and muh feels.

>Incest destroys the boundaries of love and nature
Most wild animals are fairly inbred because they have limited ranges. Attraction to relatives is natural. The westermarck effect is pseudoscience.

reminder "I don't like it" "it's icky" "so it should be illegal" is how liberal argue for bigger government and infringement on individual liberty.

if I don't like it then it should be banned

>nope. trash argument. both consenting adults
The dad/daughter or mother/son could be "consenting" adults too. You advocating for a bifurcated definition of incest. We don't allow sex for adults based around an uneven power dynamic, so incest just falls into that category.

thanks for proving my point, with your gay flag. I'm talking about incest, not specific situations. nothing you say is intrinsic to incest. any man + any woman = uneven power dynamic.

>We don't allow sex for adults based around an uneven power dynamic
This is patently false. The standard male-female relationship is inherently unbalanced.

>We don't allow sex for adults based around an uneven power dynamic
retarded lie

should it be illegal for trump to fuck his much younger, much weaker and less influencial eastern european whore?

Sex is fundamentally about procreation, just because you can assfuck your prison buddies to establish dominance doesnt mean thats the original nor a productive function of it. You keep using this argument of one degeneracy justifying another like the presence of alcohol justifying the legality of heroin yet all you want is to further deconstruct and destroy society

Fucked up secrets strain relationships. Ideal outcomes are the most unlikely.

men and women have sex more often than they have kids. if sex was "meant to" be for procreation only, then sex would always result in pregnancy which is false. only virgin idealistic retards make this stupid argument

sex is about the emotional bond and physical connection between couples.

>secrets
secret relationships are not intrinsic to incest only. plus, if you make it legal again, then the stigma and reason to hide the relationship will go away.

loads of heterosexual people are in secret relationships, this is the reality of the world. has nothing to do with things being wrong or illegal

It disrupts social and familial dynamics in unhealthy ways.

Practice incest responsibly, boys.

>We don't allow sex for adults based around an uneven power dynamic

So a man can't date a woman if he makes more money than her? Do you understand how fucking dumb you sound?

>It disrupts social and familial dynamics in unhealthy ways.
not inherently. also that is not an argument against it being wrong or not. the social disruption is because of the current stigmatization and it being illegal

Until the condom breaks or the pill doesn't work.
Devastating birth defects are stigma enough.

There's nothing wrong about incest if both are consenting adults.

It has been done before in monarchical societies and nowadays its still legal in some parts of the world like Russia.

Destroys the natural familial bond.

And we all here acknowledge that the traditional nuclear family are at the heart of a functioning society.

Emotional bonds and physical connection help contribute to a couples investment in their children. Repeated intercourse means that a couple has to be more stable to create offspring and more stable parents contribute to higher survivalability of the offspring. In the end life is about surviving and passing on your genes. If you dont do that then your genes and by extension you, your family, people and culture will be non-existant within a fee generations and replaced by a people that wasnt as retarded.

>implying couples should be illegal if they choose to not have kids
kill yourself and your shit argument

Humans are not wild animals. Attraction to relatives is natural, to kikes and mudslimes? Strawman on westermarck effect?
prove it kike.

No stigmatization would lead to increased prevalence of it happening leading to more genetic defects leading to a society that gets outcompeted and destroyed by genetically superior groups.

>prove a negative
ameritard education at work!

>the social disruption is because of the current stigmatization
I'm more talking about people ending up socialising less and less with the people outside of the family the more they do with the ones inside of it.
you could say thay people would still look for people, but it would be a fact that they would do so with less frequency and less involvement once the incestuous option is open and not stigmatised; this reduced practice translates to a reduced ability to socialise and it is damaging, especially to people living in large cities.

I'm not even going into the discussion that involves parents that would grow and teach their children with consenting incest in mind, if it is not stigmatised, it will be less accidental and more frequently on purpose; just look at what's happening with the faggots.

Also, ignoring the fact its disgusting, if you developed romantic feelings with that family member as a result and the relationship inevitably didn't work out, you would go on to have other partners and then that familial relationship would be destroyed forever due to jealousy etc.

>No stigmatization would lead to increased prevalence of it happening leading to more genetic defects leading
it would not lead to continual incest over generations long. are you retarded?

also, you keep talking about procreation when sex =/= procreation

what about gays? they can't even have kids
what about twins? they're the same age

your argument is not against incest. it's a dumb ass eugenics argument that is applicable to every hetereosexual couple.

our country for example is full of old people having kids which leads to loads of downsyndrome mongoloids and autistic spergs.

incest is objectively and scientifically a LOT safer than that

>uses jew pupil tactic
prove your statement cousin fucker

Couples not having kids is a massive problem in our society today and is leading to our society's displacement by invader groups. Couples should in the very least have heavy incentives to create kids, putting an extra tax burden on childless couples is ok with me. Having policies toward contributing to this problem is absoluty idiotic.

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how about you prove your argument instead of wanting me to prove a negative? are you brain dead?

hahah literally kill yourself you muslim retard.
>sex is only for procreation
>have lots of children goyim!

Same fucking degeneracy spiral argument you're making agian. Young couples should be encouraged to have kids and older couples shouldnt. Why do you think creating more dysfunction is a good idea

>Young couples should be encouraged to have kids and older couples shouldnt.
and this has to do with incest how?

>heterosexual couples don't act the way I like
>so incest is bad
are you brain dead?

>"Lol ur a muslim, dont have kids u stupd fucks"
>2 generations later your population is replaced by muslims

Go for it lol.
Fucking Dutchies

Sex is not love.
Love is not sex.
Sex for pleasure is okay.
Love and sex are not related.
Sex won't damage love.
Love won't damage sex.
People who argue against incest argue against love not against sex, because they think they're related. But they're not.
You can love without sex.
And you can sex without love.
You can have kids without love.
Which is what many people do.
But many would rather have kids under love.
I would rather make love than sex.
And I would rather sex than masturbate.
But we can't all get what we want.

you are literally making a subjective, religious, sharia-tier argument

>Love and sex are not related.
Sounds like what a cuck would say.

>and this has to do with incest how?
You tell me dipshit, you're the one who brought it up.

>>heterosexual couples don't act the way I like
Allowing and destigmatizing of excessive dysgenic reproduction or no reproduction at all is a extremely self-destructive thing for your society.

I'm making an observation based on evidence and facts. And how is your normalization of incest not a muslim-thing to do

btw different system/ID, same person

It is true until you disprove it, you haven't disproved a single argument in this thread. You really are destiny.

>You tell me dipshit, you're the one who brought it up.
no you retard, this is a thread about incest and you bring that shit up acting like it has anything to do with the argument

tard.


>I'm making an observation based on evidence and facts.
what facts are you retarded? you are giving your subjective opinion on how you want other people to act.

you bring something up, you have to prove it.

You brought up the older couples having kids as if it was an argument which I attacked and now you think my debunking of your argument is me bringing up something entirely unrelated.

>what facts are you retarded? you are giving your subjective opinion on how you want other people to act.
Fact is our people(that is if you are actually Dutch and not some type of kike or mud) are getting displaced by foreign groups of people and we should reverse that trend instead of promoting policies causing it if we don't want our society to turn into a South-Africa situation with muslims.

>being this much of a brainlet
it was an answer against your retarded eugenics argument. because it's not inherent to incest.

How is a eugenic argument retarded in the context of normalizing incest?

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because the chance of birth defects caused by incest is nihil. and the chance of birth defects cause by strangers being 35yo and older is almost guaranteed.

the only right type of sex, is sex for the purpose of reproduction
if you are not having sex to this end you are a degenerate who is directly responsible for the destruction of modern society.
recreation by incest leads to birth defects and infertility of the offspring, which ends the genetic line and is thus wrong.

thus, incest is wrong

>the only right type of sex, is sex for the purpose of reproduction
t. betafag virgin who has never loved or been loved, living in his fantady world.