Let's Flip Flapping

Let's Flip Flapping

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>Cockona

I was not ready to get spooked by the last episode. It's been a while seen I've seen an episode of a anime do horror well.

This anime reminds me of Phantom World

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This is a good start to the thread.

They just wrote Sup Forums in that episode. We shouldn't scared by ourselves.

This is easily the best of all the ridiculous interpretations of this show.

The dick is something that does not exist in a lot of yuri works. Men are intentionally hidden away, creating that secret flower garden of girls in which girls can only romantically interact with each other. In these worlds completely devoid of men the thought "what if men existed", "what happens after their school life is over", "will they marry a man after they leave this secure cage" looms on the horizon like a giant dick. The yuri illusion is only perfect in that in most works eternally youthful world where being gay can (but certainly doesn’t have to) be "just a phase".

To break out of this loop that even works like Yuru Yuri poked fun at, time needs to go on (the 12th chime) and they need to overcome the dick, proving that their relationship can continue outside of the safe bounds of the garden of flowers where the dick is an option.

Just apply "Hide" and IGNORE. Easy.

*flapping noises*

Again, I don't disagree that yuri manga/anime/VN are mostly terrible and repetitive. Your examples are valid. In fact, the only yuri manga I love in the past decade can be counted on one hand: Murcielago, Bloom Into You, Majyo to Houki, Gamma, Poor Poor Lips.

But it's still true that yuri got made much less than straight romance. It's no mystery: most people are straight. Even yaoi (dominating the doujin/fanfic scene) got blown out of the water by straight romance in mainstream fictions. A very same plot but replaced with a same-sex couple will guarantee a publisher/studio losing a big portion of the general audience. Yuri magazines constantly go under, with only Yuri Hime survives until now.

That financial repurcussion discourage people from making yuri. Only the most passionate authors stay in this niche industry. Let me illustrate: out of 20k VNs recorded in vndb, only 80 are pure yuri, 200 if you count games where there's a yuri side couple or het harem with bisexual fanservice. Supposely 15k of all VNs are het, and 10% of them are good, you end up with 1,500 good het stories. Whereas even if 50% of all yuri VN are good, you still only end up with 40-100. The ridiculously small pool of creations means it's at least 10-20 times harder to find a good yuri than a good het. At the same time, het works big number allow them to cover more storylines, thus diversify the impression of the genre.

So yeah, homophobia is the main factor that made yuri shitty by limiting its creative potential.

Eloquently put.
I'm not committed to the sexual awakening reading of the overall plot, but in the context of a Class S episode, that makes sense.

>I'm not committed to the sexual awakening reading of the overall plot, but in the context of a Class S episode, that makes sense.

This.

Has anyone noticed Yayaka (?) there in the background watching them?

I wonder if there are other things nobody has noticed yet.

And this is Yayaka POV. Which makes me question, how many things in this episode were from Yayaka POV.

Yuri magazines go under because Yuri artists don’t want to be in Yuri magazines. Most readers don’t hate or love yuri, they just want good stories. Those good stories are sometimes Yuri but much more often probably not, simply due to it being a niche genre with much less works overall. A magazine that sorts out a lot of quality works for the sole reason that they aren’t Yuri isn’t very interesting for normal readers, and that’s the audience a good Yuri artist wants to have.

None of the Manga you listed were serialized in a Yuri magazine. Good yuri manga rarely are, which is why Yuri Hime is left with mostly one shots and garbage.

>flip

Oh shit, I never picked up on that. Nice catch. The other subtle detail I know of is that the Goukigenyou are watching Cocona and Papika from the windows above the rooms as they search the hall.

I can't wait for nice bluray rips to come out.

What makes you think that's her POV?

Probably won’t be better than the AoD rips for the most part, except for scenes with A LOT of movement. (So basically only the LSD color hurricanes when they enter PI)

Because it immediately follows the previous shot and it's what she would see if she was in that position.

Holy fuck. You fags are crazy. I'll rewatch it again.

Best girl coming through.

Self-insert tier.

Why? She hasn't done anything except make some cute gestures. Maybe she'll get some development later on, but it's too early to say.

Has anyone made a gif of Cockona being scared in the ED yet?

How many flaps has she flipped?

A SHIT

>R-r-r-right here?! But someone can see us...
Cocona wanted it so badly.

I can see why buu didn't want to wake up. He's definitely one of us.

kek I haven't noticed

Let Yuniko have her fun.

I simply don't understand what point you're trying to make.

The conversation is about a complaint that yuri as a genre sucks, and I pointed out that it only sucks due to not having many creators and consumers. Het produce much more garbage than yuri, its tiny fraction of good works will still beat yuri and yaoi in sheer number. Your impression of the genre fail to take this basic percentage normalization into account, and therefore wrong.

Yuri authors want to make yuri. But they need to eat too. Low sales prevented them from doing that, hence them dropping out.

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Got a screenshot?

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YAYAKA

>I simply don't understand what point you're trying to make.
None, I just corrected your implication that yuri is somehow on the decline. The opposite is the case, the general public is much more accepting of yuri works so it’s simply their "containment" magazines dying out.

Also, it’s more a problem of a smaller talent pool. Good yuri sells, but as you have observed, a lot of stories are just kinda shit. Them being yuri actually works in their favor here, terrible het romances are much faster forgotten.

YAYAKA A SHIT

Glad to see Yayaka getting love.

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS OF HER TSUNDERE APPEAL

>She has a crumb on her cheek.
Too cute, I love Yayaka.

A SHIT!!!

Why the fuck doesn't Cocona have a decent conversation with Yayaka about the pure illusion shit? Do they just ignore each other at school every day?

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THE OSANANAJIMI

Hopefully everyone is drawing braids Yayaka fanart as we speak.

They weren't that great at communicating even before Papika turned up. Probably the reason Yayaka never got out of the friendzone to begin with.

YAYAKA WILL LOSE AND DIE

SCREENCAP THIS POST

YAYAKA

WILL

DIE

Shut the fuck up, !Papikana and !Yayaka.

YAYAKA WILL WIN BECAUSE SHE IS ACTUALLY A GOOD GIRL

NO SHE WILL DIE BECAUSE SHE A SHIT

Only thing I noticed is the girls only show up above their door window the first loop, and never show up above their door window again.

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YAYAKA IS NOT A SHIT
YOU ARE A SHIT

This pure illusion adventure of the week stuff is getting stale. I'd prefer some SoL to build character development at this point, especially considering Cocona and Papika literally need to develop their relationship to become stronger.

>implication yuri is on the decline
You have terrible reading comprehension then, because I implied no such thing. My statement is simply about yuri being a difficult business to work in.

Magazines constantly going under due to low sales. Low sales here is compared to het. Despite the market for yuri is opening up, it still hasn't reached that point where the average yuri publication has enough popularity to feed a mangaka yet. Yuri pioneers are still popping out new magazines to replace the canceled ones. Doesn't change the fact that the only stable one right now is Yuri Hime.

This was obvious from like ep3

You mean exactly what episode 4 did?

You think there will be any porn of the spooky gokigenyous?

That's also the only loop where they sleep in separate beds.

Coincidence? I think not.

I'M NOT A SHIT

YAYAKA A SHIT

YOU A SHIT

YAYAKA WILL DIE AT THE HANDS OF THE TWINS BECAUSE SHE IS SHIT

SHIT

SHIT!!!!!

Das gleich, das wir jeden Abend machen.

>that Shining reference
Didn't see that one coming, great episode all-around.

Cocona is only good at getting perfect grades, not at friendship or having important conversations.

Still basically adventuring, which is precisely why there was barely any character development. In fact the only significant thing that happened was near the end where Cocona told Papika a bit about herself.

They go under because their whole existence is faulty and anachronistic. It’s plain wrong to judge how difficult yuri business is by the sales of completely irrelevant magazines like Yuri Hime when even none of your favorite manga ever ran in it. Bloom Into You will be the cover on January’s Dengeki Daioh for example, it’s doing fine.

YAYAKA IS NOT A SHIT
YAYAKA IS A GOOD FRIEND WHO JUST WANTS TO PROTECT COCONA

>inability to have important conversation

Isn't that all 3 of them?

Anyone noticed all the white flowers in this episode? This show sure has alot of symbolism.

Yes, those white flowers are called lilies.

Yeah. The yuris were pretty in-your-face this ep.

YAYAKA JUST WANTS GEMS

SHE IS A STUPID SHIT WHO CAN'T FLIP FLAPPINGU BECAUSE SHE HAS NO FRIENDS

NO FRIENDS FOR YAYAKA THE SHIT

SHE HANGS OUT WITH THOSE TWINS BECAUSE NO FRIENDS

SHE WILL DIE ALONE WITHOUT THE GOODNESS OF COCONA TO FLIP HER PUFFY FLAP

WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND PAPIKA WILL BECOME ONE WITH COCONA TO FORM PAPIKANA

I DON'T SEE THEM TALKING ABOUT YAYAKANA, DO YOU?

A SHIT

PAPIKA IS A HOMEWRECKER AND A SHIT

YAYAKA LOVES COCONA ENOUGH TO RESPECT HER INDIVIDUALITY AND NOT MAKE HER DO THINGS AGAINST HER WILL

Papika kind of forces Cocona outside of her shell. Even if they care about eachother a lot, I'm not sure Cocona and Yayaka's relationship ever comprised much more than being in eachother's presence.

Yayaka is a good girl who tries to protect Cocona.

PAPIKA WANTS COCONA TO HAVE FUN

YAYAKA WANTS COCONA TO BE A WALLFLOWER

YAYAKA A SHIT

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PAPIKA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT COCONA AND JUST WANTS TO DO STUPID CRAP

YAYAKA RESPECTS COCONA AND LETS HER BE HERSELF AND LIVE AT HER OWN PACE

YOU AH! SHIT

Only you, not Cocona
She better than you

YOU AH! SHIT

Only you, not Yayaka
She better than you

Yayaka amazing
she get all the pussy
Cocona is wet now

YOU AH! SHIT

YAYAKA IS JUST SCARED

SCARED LOSER WITH NO FRIENDS

PAPIKA SAW WHAT PAPIKA WANTED AND TOOK WHAT PAPIKA NEEDED

YAYAKA IS TOO SCARED TO ACT

YAYAKA A SHIT

PA PI KA NA
NOT
YA YA KA NA

YAYAKA IS A GENTLE GIRL WHO WANTED NOTHING MORE THAN TO KEEP THINGS GOING AS THEY WERE WITH HER BEST FRIEND

PAPIKA IS A SHIT AND A BAD GIRL WHO DOES NOT RESPECT COCONA AND PERSONAL SPACE

YAYAKA DOES NOT EVEN USE YAYAKANA BECAUSE THAT NAME DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH COCONA IN IT

Why do their feet look like diving fins? Is that like an actual part of the story or just crappy cheap Korean artwork.

>big boys like Houbunsha and Shinshokan opened a yuri branch only to close down (Tsubomi, Hirari, Mebae,..)
>"T-they're just inexperienced newbs who can't even explore the easy market of yuri!"

Sure thing. I bet you would swim in money if you make a yuri magazine yourselves, because those nips can't into business huh?

And what does my top 5 fav yuri manga running in non-yuri mangazine have anything to do with the conversation? I also love Arata Iri's Sougo Tovarisch, anything by Otsu Hiyori and Morishima Akiko, which are all in yuri magazines. Are they irrelevant too? Your stubborn refusal that yuri is a niche market is a mystery. You're straight up just saying business investors are refusing milking money from the EZ cow for no reason.

I love both Yayaka and Papika I don't want both my wives to fight

WHY DO YOU THINK THE GREETING GIRLS WANTED TO KEEP PAPIKA AND COCONA TOGETHER FOREVER?

OTP
T
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THEY DIDNT CARE ABOUT YAYAKA BECAUSE YAYAKA NOT A THREAT

YAYAKA A SHIT

YAYAKA SPOILS FUN AND HANGS AGAINST THE WALL AND DOESNT WANT WHATS BEST FOR COCONA

YAYAKA JUST WANTS TO FLAP BUT SHE CANT BECAUSE SHE A SHIIIIIITTT

Papika and Yayaka are both going to lose.

We all know that Cocona's heart has belonged to Uexkull ever since she set eyes on him in PI.

Go fuck yourselves.

YAYAKA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT FLAPPING BECAUSE COCONA IS HER ONLY PRIORITY

GREETING GIRLS DIDN'T BULLY HER BECAUSE SHE KNOWS HOW TO STAY QUIET AND THEY WOULD'VE AVOIDED COCONA TOO IF SHE WASN'T WITH THAT LOUD SHIT OF A PAPIKA

I’m not, you’re just incapable of reading posts. I explicitly said that most readers don’t care one way or the other for yuri, how did you get "investors could make easy money" out of that?

Quality thread today

That fucking sequence.

forgot your tune
youtube.com/watch?v=wAqLie4EgUc

I enjoyed the exchange.

It'll be like this until tuesday. Shitposting in downtime is okay as long as this doesn't become the actual quality of discussion.

YOU'RE IGNORING WHY THE GREETING GIRLS TRIED TO CONFINE PAPIKANA

THEY KNEW THAT THEIR LOVE WOULD END THEIR WORLD

YAYAKA ALONE IS NO THREAT

PAPIKA AND COCONA BELONG TOGETHER

YAYAKA A SHIT

YAYAKA IS LIKE THAT MOM THAT KISSES YOUR BOOBOOS AND TELLS YOU SANTA IS REAL

PAPIKA IS THAT SEXY AUNT WHO TEACHES HOW TO FLIP FLAPS

YAYAKA CANONICALLY A SHIT AND NOT A THREAT

WORST GIRL
A SHIT
NOT A THREAT

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I wish you could report more than one post at a time.

Exceptional yuri works get popular, but are not as popular as mildly good het.

Average to mediocre yuri will never earn a living wages as that of average het.

That's what it means for yuri being a difficult market, do you understand? Taking shit out of context and strawmanning "but x and y is popular, therefore yuri isn't harder to sell than het" is dumb as fuck.