The Roy Moore Story Is Not the Same as Rolling Stone’s Campus Rape Story

Is Timpf right?

>Don’t believe me? Let’s break it down, shall we? On the one hand, Sabrina Erdely’s story in Rolling Stone magazine was perhaps one of the most irresponsibly reported works of “journalism” that I have ever seen. It relied on only one single, anonymous source — “Jackie” — and that’s it. No witnesses, no corroborating research, no nothing.

>The Washington Post’s account of the Roy Moore allegations, on the other hand, is a completely different ball game. Not one, not two, but four women went on the record with their real first and last names — risking their reputations to tell their stories — and these accounts are backed up by interviews with more than 30 sources. Oh, and then there’s this: Since the WaPo’s article, an additional woman, Beverly Young Nelson, has come out on the record to say that Moore also assaulted her when she was 16.

>Come on, people. If you are really going to tell me that you think that five on-the-record women, and more than 30 corroborating sources is the same thing as a story based solely on the word of a single, unidentifiable source, then I’m going to tell you that you’re either disingenuously trying to create a false equivalency for political purposes or you’re just really, really, really bad at math.

>The comparison is asinine, and the only thing more asinine than the comparison itself is how common it is. How could anyone even insinuate that these two situations are the same thing? There really are only two explanations: These people do realize how they’re different, but they just don’t care — they’ll say anything to carry water for Moore because even though he may be a pedophile, at least he’s not a Democrat! — or, they just didn’t bother to do their research — they’d rather thoughtlessly throw out some random talking point than take the two seconds it would take to Google it first, no matter whom it hurts. Both are disgusting, and there’s no excuse for either.

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Whole piece: nationalreview.com/article/453730/roy-moore-allegations-rolling-stone-campus-rape-case-not-similar

Timpf is just another roastie attention whore liberal playing a conservative on t.v for shekels

So it's exactly the same then. Thanks for clarifying, generic blonde bitch with black-rimmed glasses.

TIMPFFFFF

I wish she'd just do porn and leave our genuine conservatism alone. Stupid fucking whore.

She's always referred to herself as a libertarian, but I think the libertarians are merging with certain parts of the Republican Party. I think the Libertarian Right will be a faction of the Republican Party now, lead by guys like Rand Paul and Austin Petersen.

She's actually a libertarian. Also, she is pragmatic and not a right-wing drum beater. I am 100% on board with trump but if you can't understand the fact that nobody is always, under most or all circumstances, are right, you're no better than the liberal infection.

They are completely different you dumb fuck. Bannon sent two minions down to Alabama to try and poke holes in the story, and they’re not finding anything. Roy’s guilty.

National Review writers are barely writers.

And Kat is very dumb.

So she's a loser, I prove my point

National Review is completely sold out to the GOP establishment.

They're STILL adamant never-Trumpers.

FUCK National Review and all who sail with them.

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>please please we want to lose our majority so we don't how to show the country how much we fail at passing the things we promised to pass.

Buckley would have been a never Trumper. They’ve been consistent.

30 corroborating sources = 30 corroborating Democrats and political agents.

Takes a lot of work to smear Moore.

Shareblue must have at least 200-300 employees, tons of lawyers on retainer.

Why isn't the bitch being represented by Gloria Allred file some shit in court? What's she hiding?

Don’t you think it would be impossible for conservatives to take the moral high ground again on anything if they vote in a skeevy pervert who tries to rape high school girls.

False.

Imagine being this retarded

Nonsense.

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And here's the leftycuck

Oh, I’m sorry, they found some great scoops, like how the girl said she talked to him on the phone in her room, but her mom said there isn’t a phone in her room! She couldn’t have carried the phone into her room! The story is dismantled!

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>She couldn’t have carried the phone into her room!
It would be unusual to drag your phone and it's cable to your room to have secret chats with someone.

Fox is just as bad as CNN
Controlled opposition is controlled opposition
stop watching these people.

Who the fuck is comparing it to Rolling Stone?

The comparison is to what literally happened to Trump last year. Even the (((attorneys))) are mother and daughter. Are you so fucking retarded you didn't think of this?

Who gives a fuck about moral high ground anymore? We're six months away from open civil war.

Why the fuck are we talking about Moore anyway? Deck chairs on the Titanic.

Her tits really are terrible looking

vid.me/CCoec

>The CIA Post found 4 women willing to distort the truth or outright lie in order to strengthen bullshit allegations
Wow, you're telling me the agency behind muh yellow cake was able to bribe a small number of people? Wow, truly amazing.
>risking their reputations to tell their stories
WHAT FUCKING RISK? These allegations are usually forgotten about a week after they are made. Whenever there is a hate crime hoax or a fake rape allegation the retraction is usually buried. There is literally no risk involved for the people making the allegations. Women who cry wolf almost never face prison time or a civil lawsuit. I face more personal risk calling the OP a dick sucking kike.
>both are disgusting
Oh what a shock, a woman relies on social shaming to advance her argument over facts or basic logic. Sage and fuck you OP.

Timpf is like Lahren. Cute AF, but a fucking imbecile.

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This.

Timpf is funny.

Kay timpf is a retard

>getting your political ideology from a women
stop being a cuck

Please don’t put Timpf in that category. She’s far smarter than Lahren.

No one who looks like that is ever right about anything.

Who said I get my ideology from them? They just relay basic information that's more palatable coming out of the mouth of a woman

I get my ideology from screencaps of anonymous message boards like a true patrician

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The Salem witch trials were based on a few women pointing the finger at the same people. Unless it's provable in a court, everything else is moot.

Ask Kat Timpf if these allegations would hold up in court.

I'd fuck her, but she'd have to wear those glasses to cover that weird mole on her head

Kat Timpf is not Jewish.

Sexual assault allegations are usually impossible to prove in court. But if you’ve ever called Hillary a criminal and you won’t call Roy Moore one, you might be a hypocrite.

Why are the shills fighting so hard against him. He must be doing something right to piss them off this much. This is about as bad as when they were fighting Trump.

>trusting this girl's opinion

There was only one that was underage though, right? The other accusations are literally nothing. So all they needed was one liar.

>Not one, not two, but four women went on the record with their real first and last names — risking their reputations to tell their stories

I don't get why I'm supposed to be impressed by this. Only one of the women allege something illegal so how exactly do they corroborate each other?

If you find one woman from my past who says I played underwear hugs with her then three women who say they dated me, the underwear hugs story doesn't magically become more plausible.

>b-but three of the girls were SIXTEEN!
So?
That's not illegal.

How is attacking your enemies and defending your allies hypocritical libshit?
Is this some "if you kill your enemy they win" leaf logic?

Buckley was John McCain tier. National Review was never good.

what reputation? no one knows them, no one will follow up with them. it's been 40 years, they have only gone on the record because nothing can be done

this is sad, so much shilling
you seem desperate

Now a woman is saying he tried to rape her forcibly.

>She’s far smarter than Lahren.
Because she's ugly and wears glasses? Both are tards.

idgaf about moore, know why?
i don't fucking live in Alabama

or you might not.

Comey himself admitted that Hillary was a criminal right before he let her off the hook.

How could a man try to forcibly rape a woman and fail? Unrealistic story.

It was never proven in a court of law. Innocent until proven guilty, right? Due process. Comedy just made an allegation.

The only thing this girl has ever said that made me laugh was when she was making fun of Star Wars fans.

youtube.com/watch?v=pV9Jg2SvMrk

>It was never proven in a court of law. Innocent until proven guilty, right?
Right, just like Moore. Except Clinton's alleged crimes were recent and not brought out 40 years later when the accused just so happens to be one month away from an election

>tfw red eye is gone forever

my only problem is the timing, i'm supposed to believe a firebrand guy in Alabama news for decades, just so happened to have 30+ witnesses against alleged sexual assault, all just sitting there waiting for 1 month prior to the election?

And then i see Gloria Allred's shriveled mug, i mean, it's just not believable. Show me evidence that there was one accuser or rumors going around about this guy.

>too fucking dumb to realize the implications of comey being a swamp rat

Because they refused to charge her. Because they did not follow the law they were supposed to follow.

The Post sought out the victims, they weren’t publicity whores looking for fame. A couple of them are saying they voted for Trump. Obviously the Post was after these stories because they hate Moore, but Andrew Breitbart’s snooping into Anthony Weiner was politically motivated, and the guy’s in prison now.

You don’t know that. It was never proven in a court of law.

Now there’s a bunch of people saying he was banned from the local mall because he was always prowling for high school girls there.

>but Andrew Breitbart’s snooping into Anthony Weiner was politically motivated, and the guy’s in prison now.
The crimes weren't allegedly committed 40 years ago in the Weiner case

So now hearsay counts as evidence?

>If you are really going to tell me that you think that five on-the-record women,
Problem is, there is a clearly possible political motive for making these claims. If we set the rule that anyone accused of sexual assault is not allowed to be a politician that's a big problem. It doesn't take a genius to see how that system could be gamed, we need to follow the laws of the country as we always have. Innocent until PROVEN guilty, even for big bad men you don't like.

Plus, if he steps aside he is effectively admitting guilt, his staying in the running is basically just pleading the fifth on the public stage.

>risking their reputations.
>implying there is a large possibility of it being proven beyond a doubt that they are lying
>implying they would even suffer legal consequences if it was.
Not convinced, sorry lady.

The problem is that the evidence is credible, and his staying in the race would harm the party’s image. It’s not a court case, we don’t need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. There’s enough there that I feel safe believing the accusers.

It’s not a court case. Even if he admitted to it, he wouldn’t be found guilty in a court of law, because the statute of limitations is up. It will never be proven in the legal sense. But it seems VERY likely that he did it.

> Now we know he was on watch list at the local mall for creeping up on girls
> Sup Forums still on damage control

As always, stay classy Sup Forums

>Also, she is pragmatic and not a right-wing drum beater.
>pragmatic
If she was actually pragmatic she wouldn't give two damns about the sexual morals of the people running for office and vote only based on who is going to enact the agenda she wants. She's just a giant cock sucker.

B-BUT IT’S A VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY

>> Now we know he was on watch list at the local mall for creeping up on girls
I don't know anything. All I know is that right before Trump was elected there were about 10 different women coming forward saying he raped them.

At this point I don't even care. If this guy really is guilty, the left only have themselves to blame. They are simply incapable of stopping themselves from lying.

>moral high ground again
Morality is almost always a losing argument because people's morals are so fundamentally ingrained in them that no amount of argument will change people.

the leftists have a track record of doing this. They tried to do it to Trump but he was too strong.

The last year has shown me the true evil of the left wing machine. They tried to start fights at Trump rallies, NY Times and CNN got caught openly cheating for Democrats, admitting Russia was a fake story, fake pee dossier, Vegas cover-up, etc.

They have a long history now of proven evil behavior and having no scruples about the truth whatsoever.

So to have all these things happen in the past year and then to believe this crap would make someone incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

The system is dead, I no longer even believe anything that is said by any Democrat or left wing media member. It's all just a game at this point.

PS - the timing of the allegation is the smoking gun of it being fake. Same exact MO as the "Trump touched me on the plane" BS story.

The more fake shit the leftists pull the worse it makes America and the closer to a real war. That is what is scary is that they don't have the sense to think through the logical conclusions of their actions.

They keep threatening to overturn elections (Trump, Brexit, now Moore), while ironically complaining democracy is in trouble.

Funny how they wait 40 years to say anything, until a month before his election. Funny how this also happens when Hollywood sex allegations are popular. If you can't see this is a hit-piece then you are naive. If you don't report a rape within a week you weren't raped.

nicely put. the left have made it impossible to believe shit like this. just like false-rape accusers have made it difficult to believe rapes happened in he-said she-said spots.

Maybe Gloria Allred uses the same firm of ex-Mossad agents to run these psyops that Weinstein used against his victims?

It is a hit piece, but it’s also probably true.

Crimes in America need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. These "crimes" are so old they cannot be proven. They cannot be disproven, but that means nothing. The legal system doesn't work that way.

Nah. It's probably a lie, just saying. Only leftists would believe it after all the lying shit they've pulled over the last few years.

The legal system doesn’t figure into this, he’s not on trial, and he never will be. That isn’t the point. It’s a he said/she said, she said, she said, she said, she said thing, and their allegations are credited.

Credible, I mean.

>seems
Yeah I'll need more than that

If it's not a legal matter then it doesn't matter. If their allegations can't be taken seriously in court then they are hardly newsworthy. This is yet another hit-piece by libtards. The accusers need to be sued for libel.

He can’t be tried because of the statute of limitations, but he still probably did it.

Before you send him to prison, yes, you need more than that, but it’s not a court trial. The question is are you willing to vote for someone who is probably a child molester, because he might not be.

I'm sick of people like you trying people of serious crimes in the court of public opinion. If they can't be convicted of it then they didn't do it. The accusers never said shit for multiple decades until the sex scandals were everywhere and his election was a month away. They need to take the malicious intent qualifier off of libel charges because what you are all doing is illegal.

>If they can't be convicted of it then they didn't do it

So you don’t believe Hillary Clinton was ever committed a crime?

>30 corroborating sources
thats not what that means ya dumb bitch

and just to add to what i mean for the slow people: its 4 sources (pretty sure all worked for clinton) interviewed by 30 people that she is claiming can corroborate their statements. its not wrong its fucking retarded to say that reporters are corroborated sources.

Nice strawman. She can be convicted of her crimes still. We just have a globalist President and administration. Moore cannot possibly be prosecuted so these allegations are totally bullshit. If it happened why wait so long? Why wait until this convenient point in time? You are a very dishonest person.

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"He said - she said" my word against yours is not credible evidence. And that is literally all we have at this point. Not a single video, photo, police report, rape kit, or witness can corroborate any of the claims. The central tenet of our justice system is 'Innocent until proven Guilty' - provide the proof and I'll execute him myself.

Why wait so long? It’s very common for women to tell a few people after they’ve been sexually assaulted but they never want to press charges. Happened to a friend of mine. They probably never would have went public if the journalists hadn’t convinced them.

I think the claim is that they have interviewed 30 other people connected to the 4 people that corroborate the stories. In allegations of rape, they go try to find people that knew the victim back when it happened and see if they ever were told about it up until recently. The victims will often grant their therapists or psychologists permission to confirm their story, etc... but if you can find a lady to lie for a couple thousand dollars for political reasons, then I'm sure they could find people willing to pretend they were told the story as well. I don't trust Gloria Allred to tell the truth about the color of her underwear, let alone anything remotely political in nature. The irony that her daughter allegedly represented Weinstein is all the more hilarious.

>you think
nope.

This has nothing to do with the justice system. OJ Simpson killed his wife, regardless of what the justice system said. Casey Anthony killed her daughter, and Roy Moore fucked teens.