The centrist question

Is centrism for smart people or retards?

I want to sympathize with somebody who tries to focus on issues instead of political ideologies, and sets aside party lines, but every time I talk to one of these fucks they just seem stupid.

Centrists just seem ill-informed. You ask them "Do you know who George Soros is?" and they just look at you with a blank stare. You ask them "Do you know what globalism is?" and they just look at you with a blank stare.

Centrists pride themselves on being the "rational" viewpoint, but when you really start asking them questions, you quickly realize they have barely researched anything. They just watched some documentaries and still think that mainstream media is credible like 50% of the time.

In a way, centrists almost seem more naive than far-left liberals. Far-left liberals are just full-out socialists and they don't mind lying and spreading propaganda to get what they want. They have an end-game where white men are sent to the gulag and POC feminists rule society.

Centrists say naive things like "We all want the same things, but we have different methods of getting there!" and "Most people become centrists when they have matured", and of course the classic "Both sides are stupid!".

I try to befriend centrists to bring them further right, but they are so naive it is hard to believe. I almost respect a far-left nutcase more than a centrist because a far-left nutcase is not naive about the political situation. Both left and right want radically different things at this point.

Now that left and right have both radicalized in different directions, the center is not even a possible position to have anymore.

Empirically, academic studies show that the more informed a voter is, the more extreme they are in political orientation.

Theoretically, left and right wing platforms are based on philosophically coherent underlying values, meaning if you believe in one right wing idea, you are likely to subscribe to a set of fundamental values (eg tradition vs egalitarianism) that make you likely to believe other right wing ideas.
It makes little sense to hold half-left and half-right beliefs, since that requires believing in two contradicting value systems (A>B and B>A).

Finally, there is almost no great politician in modern history (when ideologies have become defined) that earned their name through being 'centrist', even the ones that have reputations of being pragmatic (like Lee Kuan Yew), in their earlier years were quite radical (Lee advocated for leaving UK, joining Malaysia, and got kicked out of Malaysia).

So in summary, centrists are either brainlets or politically disinterested. The 'well-informed' centrist does not exist, though well informed people can give you contrasting perspectives on one issue, they usually believe in one over the other.

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The objectively smarter you are, the more left wing you become.

If you disregard this evidence but quote how niggers have lower IQs then you're a brainlet.

A correlation between IQ and political belief can be found, but it has very restricted conditions.
For example, East Asians have >105 average IQ, and East Asian states are almost uniformly right wing in various beliefs compared to the west.
Niggers vote overwhelmingly (like far more than hispanics) for leftists parties, yet have by far the lowest IQ.
That correlation thus has little value in predicting individual intelligence from political beliefs.

Am centrist, know who Soros and what globalism is, not opposed to spreading propaganda in fact it's the main thing I do.
>"We all want the same things, but we have different methods of getting there!" and "Most people become centrists when they have matured"
I don't think I've heard either of these irl honestly, although both sides are stupid. Pic related is the best criticism I've seen of centrism anywhere. AMA.

Hasn't Asia also been communist though?

Total conformity or partisanship isn't a good idea. You can prefer one side over the other but it's best to maintain nuanced opinions.

>waah people are disagreeing with me and i can't just irl shitpost about them for being commie omnigender third wave feminists

i get it, rational thinking confuses you because you're only used to thinking in terms of two retarded and far out positions

>Total conformity or partisanship isn't a good idea

I agree with this, but my ultimate goal is a far-right society where women are home, men are working, government is small, faggots are thrown off of roofs, degenerates are exiled, and Christianity is the nation's religion.

I am just going to do whatever to achieve that.

Centrists barely even have an end-game. They just assimilate to the center of any political paradigm and fence sit there until it moves again.

Look at faggots like Sargon of Cuckod. Now he is dog-whistling pro-white messages now that the paradigm has shifted that direction a bit.

Obviously if you think the second amendment means what it says AND you think the government should pay to abort nigglets you are a centrist because those are policies from the far sides of each party.

Sanctioning Israel and building a wall are another set of juxtaposed positions.

Japan isn't.

Only really for China in 50s-70s, today it is highly socially conservative, and economically centrist.
Japan has always been right wing since time immemorial.
South Korea dramatically shifted right after Lee Kuan Yew's successful reign, but even North Korea was relatively right wing compared to other communist countries, North Korea is nationalist whereas other communist countries often advocated for borderless internationalism.

Singapore always right wing, their first PM locked up the commies and never lost a free election.
Taiwan stayed docile under right wing rule for decades.
Hong Kong remains a bastion for libertarian far right economics to this day,

Because most people don't give a shit about politics and default to an uninformed, vaguely centrist position (like the one you mentioned in the OP) when pressed on a specific issue, your extreme position and what people are likely to perceive as extreme attempts to promote it are likely to backfire and drive people away.

Depends on how radical your centrism is

Things centrists say:

>Trump's tweets are bad
>Trump is not that intelligent but he appealed to a base of rednecks
>The nation did not vote for Donald Trump, they were voting AGAINST hillary clinton
>I agree with Trump on economics, but I do not support his divisive rhetoric
>The media lies sometimes, but often Trump is attacked because of stupid things he says

Centrism doesn't exist. All "centrism" can ever claim to be is an umbrella term for right wingers to claim to be moderates in order to either act as subverters or because they're too ashamed to label themselves right wing.

You must have shut yourself into your little Sup Forums world for too long if you think that these come off as very unreasonable things to say - apart from the 'rednecks' bit.

>I agree with Trump on economics, but I do not support his divisive rhetoric

Lel no one says that.

Centrists are normie brainlets, don't worry, as time goes on, people will be forced to be more polarized, a centrist's head will role no matter what happens. Centrism is for worthless retarded trash that badly needs culling.

>You must have shut yourself into your little Sup Forums world for too long if you think that these come off as very unreasonable things to say - apart from the 'rednecks' bit.

If Trump's "rhetoric" worries you because it is "divisive", you are a pussy because you are worried that a bunch of mentally ill leftists are going to get upset over some naughty words and light-hearted banter.

Trump's rhetoric is beneficial to any man with any sense of masculinity. Our society has become so feminized, it is cringey to step out your door some days. The more nasty, vulgar, and offensive he is, the more he is stretching the paradigm for men to just talk like normal men again.

This is the problem with the centrism. They care more about "people getting along" than our society being ruled by a bunch of creepy screeching feminists.

It's for agreeable retards save those few unicorns that approach it rationally, albeit naively.

usually its for smart
right now its for retards
bringing in and providing for a bunch of niggers and inbred terrorists is not how u build a society theres no centrist way around it

The thing I hate most are centralists who claim to be neutral yet you notice they always only shut down one side

A good example is Sup Forums. They claim to hate politics yet only act when it's anti sjw stuff is posted. Meanwhile video games are sjw orientated and are allowed to spread their message freely but no one can argue against it.

At least real sjws have the balls to pick a side. So my question what are some easy tricks to expose the "centralist" true side?

>At least real sjws have the balls to pick a side

I mean, as demented as SJWs are, at least they have a coherent worldview and end-game goal.

Centrists just seem like they don't know anything about anything, and they denounce anybody who picks a side.

>LOL FUCK NAZIS
>LOL LOOK AT THIS SJW MELTDOWN COMPILATION

They don't even realize they are just going to end up assimilating to whatever paradigm is created in the future.

>what are some easy tricks to expose the centrist true side

I think their view on Trump's personality will tell you everything you need to know. A right-leaning person will find Trump's personality exciting, while a left-leaning person will hate Trump's personality but maybe sympathize with a few of his policy ideas

Centrism is a cowardly position by default, as the easiest way to escape criticism is to restrict yourself entirely to opinions that lack major controversy.

There is basically no legitimacy to centrist logically either, as centrism changes depending on the era, and the presumption that modern consumerist Westerners are and will remain eternally the objective moral arbiters of all political ethics is so retarded that nobody could possibly believe it.

Essentially the issue is this: No, Centrists are not legitimate political thinkers, but they are legitimate politicians. Centrism exists to allow people without strength of personality or any convictions to be elected.

This. Asia is based. Look at Myanmar

You don't have to pick a side. Centrism is not about haveing strong convictions or fence sitting like most of the retards in this thread think it is. It's deciding your positon on an issue independantly of other issues.

Why is it that there is a high correlation between certain issues and a "side", like Democrat or Republican? You're against abortion, so you have a high probability to be against gun control. You're pro immigration so you're more likely to support hate speech laws or something.

Why can't you be for abortion, and against gun control? Why can't you be for teaching evolution in schools, but against marijuana?(These are just examples). Debate and decide each issue by itself, you don't have to conform your believes entirely with a left or right side.

>Why can't you be for abortion, and against gun control? Why can't you be for teaching evolution in schools, but against marijuana?(These are just examples). Debate and decide each issue by itself, you don't have to conform your believes entirely with a left or right side.


Because usually personality traits will mean that if you take a stance on one issue, you will take the same stance on other issues.

A person who is pro-immigrant means they have "compassion" for people they have never even met. This also means they are worried about "hate speech" negatively effecting their lives, usually.

nuance is for cucks you racist

Link a study if you're going to make that claim

These are true statements

God damn man you are just straw manning so hard through this whole thread
>for abortion
>against gun control
that's me
>A person who is pro-immigrant means they have "compassion" for people they have never even met. This also means they are worried about "hate speech" negatively effecting their lives, usually.
stereotypical SJWs are annoying but you are just making up a straw man to talk shit about because you made a thread asking about centrism but I guess you'd rather talk about how it doesn't exist and everyone is really a wing nut

The left/right political spectrum is a trick tool used by influencers of mass opinion to sway the common folk into quarreling with each other, instead of them. Anybody who tells you to pick a side without giving you a proper explanation is a massive weenie, and you should certainly ignore it.

The far left is extreme. The far right is extreme. Extremism is stupid because it is bad. I'm not extreme, which automatically forces me into the center. I'm very well informed.

>fucktard larper

What of Cambodia and Vietnam?