What the fuck

What the fuck...

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Damn, he looks like Giles.

That headline seems misleading he's just saying that not everyone who jerks it to cheese pizza is going to rape a kid.

But he's saying they've done nothing wrong. Child porn in itself harms children, unless the guys in jail only wanked to 2D.

How does downloading child porn harm the child?

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Idk about this. I do think they have too broad a definition for "porn". I'm not defending pedos in just saying arresting people for loli cartoons is a bit extreme

Exactly the kids are abused on video then some fucker shares it and the abuse never ends for the victim Grisham is a pedo

Because it encourages producers to make more
Ok pedo

He makes a good point. I'm surprised that he's willing to put his reputation on the line for this.

It's not about whether it's morally right. It's about breaking the law. If you don't like it, vote for someone who'll change the law.

That's true. Some people are just browsing a general thread on Sup Forums during a major tournament or event.

because he's from reddit

Creates demand, even if it was downloaded for "free".

Dexter inspired multiple serial killers.
Dexter should be banned!

He is right though. Some people accidentally download child porn, thinking it's something else
Or it can be as simple as going into a thread on Sup Forums and someone posts child porn

Also, a lot of people who investigate child porn have to watch it to indentify victims. Does that make them pedophiles? No.

Dexter isn’t real. Child porn is. You absolute moron.

>Title
Sure, not everybody at the various law enforcement agencies who has to sift through that garbage is a pedophile.

>actual quote
Oh....

So its okay if they were just acting? Penetration added in post?

I don't know what the laws state in the US of A, but in my country if you show the court that all you had on your computer are thumbnails and cached images from accidental clicks you won't get in any trouble.

Neither is ok you mongoloid.

they're normalizing it, as predicted

shit is crazy senpai, suppose this is their first pick to reach out to older people who like his books

Who was the user that posted names of supposedly who raeped Corey Feldman/gain and HE WAS ONE OF THEM, John Grisham that is. My dad was a huge fan too I hope it isn't the case

What is porn in your definition? What if no one was abused? Nudist camp photos can be labeled CP. Do you see the point I'm trying to make?

Laws on sexual crimes could do with some improvement. It's bad to jail a 19 year boy for having sex with a 16 year old girl.

It's not bad to jail some sick freak who is aroused by the physical and mental torture of small children.

some people seem to think cp is produced like normal porn with websites hosting loads of shit made to be shared there, with thousands of bitcoins going to clandestine organisations to keep pumping it out. at least i assume they think that, because otherwise the argument that downloading something encourages its production wouldn't uniquely be applied to cp

it's embarrassing to see modern people who are so weak in their convictions and buy so heavily into moral relativity that they don't think it's acceptable to just say it should be completely banned because it's absolutely morally unacceptable

I had to check if it was real. And it is:
forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2014/10/16/millionair-author-john-grisham-says-not-all-men-who-watch-child-porn-are-pedophiles/#650f996e7341

No, fuck you, we aren't having a discussion about this. If you're attracted to

I mean, I can understand /ss/ being that you are self inserting as the boy and having your way with older women. That doesn't make me a pedophile, I have no wish or interest in children, just MILFs, but I can see how watching or owning that material can be viewed as this. It's all about context, I guess.

Watching CP while digusting is not a real crime. The people who produce it are the real criminals here.

>Dexter isn’t real.
neither are loli cartoons

i dunno about this but he also wrote a book which became the movie A Time to Kill showing a bunch of white pickup truck rednecks stalking and killing an innocent little black girl just for fun. It was inspired by a real court case he saw - except in the real case it was a white girl killed by fucking blacks

Nudism is not labeled cp. we’re talking about actual child pornography. Don’t play dumb. Anyone looking at pictures or video of a child in any remotely sexual situation should be beheaded. What a sexual situation is isn’t clear, yes a line must be drawn somewhere, but it’s called using common sense.

What if you paid money for it (directly or not)?

dude urination in public can get you put on the sexual predator list just for exposing yourself, regardless of whether or not someone saw it

That CP has to be made to begin with, so while a viewer doesn't directly harm a kid, a kid has been harmed. And viewing CP creates demand, which increases the production of CP.

You said downloading child porn is bad because it encourages creation of more child porn. That was your argument. Not that child porn is real. You're flippy-floppying.

He's right. Pedofags should be executed.

Imagine being this dumb.

How are you this retarded. Loli is illegal in some places as well. You're talking out of your ass

they're creating demand for it by viewing it thereby causing children to be harmed, what an unbelievable dumbass i hope he microwaved his hard drives before he said that

nice argument

If that's true why do they prosecute people who "create demand" for capeshit they torrent for free?

2D is okay. Anything and beyond, anything involving a real human being whatsoever, not okay.

That is a real child you're watching. Somebody who will be scarred for life, and you're perpetuating the horror that they experienced by sharing their video. They have to live their entire lives knowing that someone somewhere is getting off to them being traumatized, which is a bit shit. This is why Grisham's argument holds no water: every single instance of 3D CP is exploitation. Every single one. Children are too naive to realize the situation they're in, and that's in the best case scenario. You're robbing them of their future all for the sake of your own gratification. There's really no grey area from what I can see, I understand that some pedophiles are non-offending, a lot probably, but behind every video and image there is exploitation. There is real pain.

nude children in any capacity is defined as CP by many countries

Of nudism is considered cp in some places then I’m wrong. Not talking out of my ass. Either way, that is a gray area. Back to the original point he made, though, anyone looking at actual cp should be killed on site.

SeeYou fucking mong

>stop downloading child pornography, you're supporting the industry!
>stop downloading movies/television, you're hurting the industry!

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If you are directly funding CP to be made by specifications? Sure, that sounds criminal to me. Like hiring a hitman.

You would know...

Yes, and it ruins you life because you get put on the sex offender registry either temporarily or permanently and you become ostracised from society. I read an article about a group campaigning for sex offender rights recently and it really opened my eyes to how bad it can get for people who did mistakes which they regret.

>Nudist camp photos
It's still an abuse. Faggots making photos of kids without them being fully aware what this shit is about. So it's pretty close to cp.

I agree. Actual CP and the people producing it should be killed.

the actual gray area is fully developed girls who happen to be under an arbitrarily defined number of seconds on earth, getting naked.

t. I don't have a basic understanding of any of this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_(TV_series)#Association_with_actual_crimes
At least 6 people were inspired to kill by the production of this vile media.
Showing serial killers on television encourages people to kill. Viewing of Dexter should be punishable by 5 years in prison!

Let's assume that we're only talking about 3D CP or this thread isn't going to make any sense. 2D "CP" laws are very different everywhere you go.
It depends. Some countries also make a difference between owning and distributing. In some countries you can fuck a minor but filming it is illegal even if you don't share it.

Except that's the type of statement that requires indepth knowledge of both to understand, even moreso to state.

I watch child porn every now and then and I don't think I am a pedo.

It's just nice to have something different for a change

How can someone so rich not comprehend that by "just watching" that pedo shit they're enabling those who produce that stuff and harm innocent children?

>Television & Film

Yeah that was my point. You could also argue that a "free" download isn't free if the site had ads.

>watching ISIS burn people alive or cartels skinning a man's face with razor blades
>legal

this is the kind of shit that makes me really disdain the human race
>IF YOU FEEL THIS WAY I'LL KILL YOU
>not
>IF YOU ACT THIS WAY I'LL KILL YOU
Man, I really wish i could meet a piece of shit like you in person and incite you to get belligerently argumentative, and then put a hand on me
I'll bet your a pacifist though

Yeah, I wasn't meaning to be hostile with my response, the laws need to be worked on because everyone is just painted with one brush. I have a friend that's on the list because he mooned a train and someone on board called the police. It's so fucked.

Those people are the guys who got put on the sex offender registry for things like public indecency. They're upset that people think they're pedophiles.

>Sup Forums said they would defend pedos next

I hope you get murdered.

Because time doesn't flow in that direction?

Jesus fucking christ. So Grisham's basically confirmed to watch child porn right? Or at least, a good friend/family member of his must, because there's no other reason why someone would come out and say this.
Like all the people arguing for leniency on drug offenders, at least 90% of them have tried an illegal substance in the past and that's why they're so sympathetic.

It's fine, I don't read his books anyway

>tfw I used to moon an entire class of high school girls every week on the way back from gym class

Kek. Are you serious? I would bludgeon you to death the minute you started shit, you fucking kiddie diddler.

what are you trying to say?
By watching something or consuming a product for money you encourage those who make it to produce more.
Are you baiting or are you literally retarded?

Wrong. Profit increases production. Let's face it, profit is their end game here. They're not trying to earn Osars are they?

ISIS and the cartels, as shitty as their actions are, would have committed them whether or not you were watching.

People create child porn with or without you watching too

So literally no one bothered checking if the article is real. Is everyone here retarded?

see

ISIS explicitly uses gruesome execution videos as propaganda. They don't just incidentally film it; they create it to rile up Westerners and inspire Jihadists.

Some people don't do it for profit, they do it for notoriety and e-cred in their circles. They also trade each other and shit.

>didn't check the entire thread
>retarded

Watching Dexter encourages networks to make fictional dramas about serial killers.
Watching cp encourages producers to make real videos where children get buggered. You'd have to be a fucking moron not to understand this. Though, you've got to be pretty fucking mentally deficient to think cp is at all acceptable in the first place

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The disconnect is in the monetization schemes. Its not like CP has sponsors and advertising.

>what is adblock+?

You're shitposting, but this is unironically a good point. Piracy in many instances has been shown to help sales, see the entire anime market. And going further, Let's plays of minecraft bolstered that games' sales exponentially.
So arguably people shouldn't be prosecuted for torrenting capeshit, yes.

But people should be physically castrated for watching cp

Holy shit how stupid are you? Saying child porn is real is not an argument it's an implicit fact. Nice job ignoring the dude's entire point

And say good bye to his career.

>>stop downloading movies/television, you're hurting the industry!
Said no one on Sup Forums ever ignoring people who were b8ing

fake news, google him

>believing Sup Forums
>ever

whew lad

>anti-piracy doesn't exist

okay

Anyone who gets caught for murder clearly hasn't been very inspired by Dexter

His point was not an argument against my point, dumb dumb.

Just fuck off back to tumblr

dexter doesn't really give much in the way of how to not get caught

That’s not the reason Dexter should be banned

How stupid can you fucking be?
Most CP is probably not free. I'm into a wierd niche of porn and most of it isn't free. On pornhub you can find like a tenth at most of what's actually produced, for the rest you have to get to the studios webesite and buy.
Also even if cp was 100% free which i highly doubt the people that hosted the website would make money with ads. And that's a lot of money.
Pirating movies hurts the industry that produces them, because people instead of paying them, they go on free streaming sites, and so those who profit are actually the people hosting the free streaming website.

That was Jon Grissom, different guy

Child porn, as an illegal act, is supported fully from clandestine online activity. What you're doing here is comparing cigarettes to marijuana. The economics of illegal materials are different than those of legal materials. I don't even know why I'm explaining this, you're such a fucking brainlet anyways