The meme that killed Peterson

The meme that killed Peterson.

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are you retarded?
he is right
all those names are group based "thinking"

None of that contradicts what he's said, and is entirely in line with what he's been advocating. You guys must be real retards to think Dr. Peterson was a poster boy for nationalism or fascism.

>be individual
>get devoured by majority
>????
>win?

>defending redditors
Jesus Christ, what happened to this board

Yes goyim, be an individual instead of working as a group while other groups take over

Who the fuck is that

while i agree with a lot of what jp says in his lectures, i just don't think that individualism will work in the current society.

to understand jp's point-of-view you have to have a certain level of intelligence (inb4 r&m you have to be too intelligent to understand the jokes) and delayed gratification. the vast majority of people are incapable of this level of thinking. people who identify with groups will crush all of the individuals.

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King of Reddit. Dave Grohl has been dethroned.

This is why I barely visit Sup Forums anymore, most people here used to be all for individual freedom. You morons are failing to the State.

Anyway, I believe nationalism is still compatible with individual freedom, because after all the best way to ensure it is by protecting your land and your people, the threat is real.

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fixed

>guys you should never think of yourself as group as muslims and nigger continue to outnumber you

historians will look back and realize this mentality is what killed the white race

>flag
Opinion discarded.

noice

>You morons are failing to the State.

yeah cuz the state doesn't depend on us being easily exploited individualists

Individualism is by far the most insiduous form of collectivism.

Jordan Peterson is utterly full of shit.

>love and truth man! love and truth

What does this post even mean

Yup
Capitalism, Democracy, Communism, Feminism, Progressivism, Libertarianism, Objectivism - all just branches of Liberalism, all just as wrong.

Catholic Monarchy with distributist practices = the only way to thrive

This. We are group animals. There is nothing wrong with focusing on the group and working to ensure the betterment of your tribe.

Decadence in modern mass multicutlural soceities begins at a moment when tehere is no longer any discernable meaning within society.Meaning is destroyed by raising INDIVIDUALISM above all other values because rampant INDIVIDUALISM encourages the anarchical proliferation of egoism at the expense of the values that were once part of the NATIONAL HERITAGE.
>did you really think there is a leaf not retarded?

Most pol users are tribalistic/collectivistic monkeys, that the only redeeming quality is being white.
Be mad faggots.

Not bad

But the hero is born from the collective...

>no Ben Garrison signature

>Collectivist, statists and commies get totally BTFO in other thread
>START NEW THREAD

fuck off beta faggots

Use your noggin.

To illustrate the power of collectivism by example, here's a bitter redpill: how a minority of Jews in New York took control of a local school board - one that their children DO NOT ATTEND - with their community engagement and voting bloc.

>thisamericanlife (((dot))) org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority

Yes, it's from a traditionally cucked source, which is why you know it's bad when even they are reporting on the Jews overstepping their bounds.

The people I've passed this to IRL have always come back alarmed and more aware of this outside threat. Spread it.

why would I put a Ben Garrison signature if I made it?

How's your first week going?

I've been saying since the beginning he's just a fucking worthless pseudo-intellectual.

Collectivism and cooperation are the foundations of human civilization, individualism is totally anti-civilization. The individual is inescapably a member of the collective, they benefit from collective efforts whether they want to or not, unless they decide to literally move into the wilderness and live off the land alone, and even then, they were raised by the collective and can't escape its influence which has been stamped into their brain. "Group think" is how we get shit done, organized division of labour is what allowed us to even create complex societies, and even prior to the agricultural revolution, the hunter/gatherer tribe was a coherent collectivist unit, responsibility and resources were all shared between the tribe, individualism has never and can never exist as a status quo, it is impossible.

Now stop listening to this gay faggot and come back to reality. Individualism is suicide, a weapon being used against the general population to prevent them from organizing and actually accomplishing anything.

Hahaha, why wouldn't you?

Don't stop creating, but definitely lurk moar.

*It's not a coincidence that every Communist country has/had universal suffrage and half of them are called "Democratic Republics."

And whats wrong with that user?, unless we both have diferent ideas of what he means by love and truth.

Individualism makes the collective conscious of its decisions.
The collective tries to control the Individual.

its not a black and white game you fucking leaf.

it makes it more authentic

wrong you statist fuck,
Collectivism is an illusion. your individual conscience will never merge with the borg. You are theorizing an entity into existence based on your individual thoughts and needs.
>"Group think" is how we get shit done
good goy. listen to the (((group)))

This

Peterson is a retard. We live in the most individualist time in history, and it is the cause of 90% of our problems.

le horseyshoe meme

The meme that killed the alt-left.

The only way to preserve individual freedom is through collectivism.

Degeneracy, liberalism, individualism, communism, democracy.

This is very depressing. Sup Forums has become an unthinking mass just like the left. Going to assume its mostly due to Euro + On the dole US hour posters. This entire post reads like ancap meme logic. Individualism and cooperation are not mutually exclusive. If you remove the drive to self determination from a society, you get a bunch of drones that will never accomplish anything.

A brainwashed Leaf parroting commie bullshit

HOW RARE!!!!

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>group based "thinking"
You're in the wrong place to be an atomized individualist, counter-signalling "group based" anything, retard.

Why do you assume I'm a commie?

What is actually is an illusion is the notion of the individual, you are not an "individual" in the sense you believe, you were raised by the collective, by society, your very being is defined by the society in which you were raised and continue to live, from your language to your behaviour even to your mental state, it is all a product of societal influence. You can't escape it, even if you run into the forest and never return, you can't escape the fact that society created you as an "individual", you are a product of the collective whether you like it or not, and you can either try in vain to reject that, which will only hurt you and society in general, or you can accept that you are on a "team", that you are a member of a community, a family, a nation, a people, and you can do your duty to ensure your team is successful. Those are your options, either suicide or duty.

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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fist and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast i worship

The group is made of individuals my friend, and to subordinate the individual to the group is to make the group too static unable to adapt to change, that does not mean you shun the group and traditions

>capitalism
>communism
are you retarded

The point is that collective comes necessarily before the individual. The founding fathers of America knew this, but Jews in the 20th century have psyoped Americans into believing they were lolbertarians or individualists or other retarded Jewish ideologies.

Just more all powerful kiddie diddling cults

The group is made of individuals who are made by the group which is defined by individuals etc..., it is a symbiotic relationship, to believe the individual can somehow break away from the group and survive is the problem here, that is impossible, the individual can't exist without the group and the group can't exist without the individual, they are effectively the same thing from different perspectives.

Individualism is only acceptable under a homogeneous society, not when a society is on the edge of collapse from competition with other ethnicities and races.

it's just a meme from his subreddit

youtube.com/watch?v=0lv9T9MhkUM

Its always sad to see Christians and boomers follow liberalism of the 60's its like they are literally clueless about how things actually work in real world and they just accept shitty moral premises of libshits thah destroyed conservative Christianity. I wish him luck in teaching atheists and Muslims Christian mythology.

The only dichotomy that matters is belief in equality v. inequality

mr peterson supports the efforts to liberate the individual from race gender region

>flag
>monkeys
You would know Anoneiro

If everyone is an individual, the strongest allegiance is to the state.

He isn't saying you should break off from the group, he is saying that in order to bring order and make the group better the individual must better himself too, it's like you faggots shut off after the first few words and ignore everything else, every time he says the stuff about bettering yourself he says that once you achieve that you can start to move outwards, first your family, your community, etc etc

Individuals get killed by collectives, so you form a collective to not die, whats so confusing about that?

it doesn't come first, the goal of the collective is help the individual, a collective that doesn't make life better for the individual will just be overthrown

It's just game theory, we work with each other because each of us gain more than if we were alone. We are not slaves to the system, the system works for us.

now repeat after me
there is no allah but allah and mohammed is his messenger

/ourlauren/ gets it and she's 19 and half of you fucks are 25yo+ and still fall for this reddit fedora meme

ind/col are not at odds with each other. Its one of those autistic conservative talking point that mean very little. The only concrete thing they mention I could think of is 'not judging people by their group identity' which is obviously a minuscule part of what these words mean. I don't see how wanting closer communities or higher social trust is wrong. Individualism/collectivism is a spectrum. Individualism in too large quantity make you miserable

Everybody like their individuality. They're not necessarily pinned against each other.

That's not what individualism and collectivism means.

Both are SOCIAL systems, the difference is who has CONTROL. Individualism is not being anked alone in the forest, individualism is working with others so YOU have a better life, not some random nignog you've never met.

>Collectivism and cooperation
Collectivism is compelled cooperation.
>It's fine for you if you're the one who's calling the shots.
>Very much sucks when you're the one whose throat is being stepped on.

Fuck you

National Socialism and Fascism fucking sucks and is for betas who are anti natural selection and anti survival of the fittest.

They want some state to come in a alter with shit. Go fuck yourselves, fcking cucks. Capitalism with minimal to no governments the best example of natural selection and survival of the fittest. Cucks loose out.

yeah i know about it, trust me

>It's a nihilism episode

Excessive individualism is a cancer of the modern mind.
Trying to force wolves to live like cats in the name of ideology.

Fucking this

Is Peterson still useful? Is he a gateway?

>you are not an "individual" in the sense you believe
I wonder who could be bhind this post?

That's a bingo.

Remember, tribalism is only discouraged when it's white people. Don't favour your own people, your ''own people'' do not even exist, when you think about it, goy! There is only YOU and your benefit!

Humans were ''drones'' for the past few million years before individualism?

Jews running our government is another example of natural selection.

White people electing a government that serves their interests such as the NSDAP is another example of natural selection.

KYS ancap cuck retard

Also note how totally defenseless the Roman is against the collectivist Hydra

Ancap humanity will rule the universe

Again, you mongoloid it is not about "breaking off the system" or thinking man can live alone it is about who has tbe last word in the symbiotic relationship.

Exactly. We're social creatures by nature. The hydra is the right way to go. The lone warrior is fucked.

You aren't a citizen of the US I don't blame you for your ignorant faggotry state worshipping idiocy

Here's an example of why National Socialism is also anti survival of the fittest and natural selection.

I'm a black male, and I currently have 3 girlfriends. 2 white women, and a Japanese woman. Now, in a natural world, I aquire all three of them, and can even seek more.

Meanwhile, National Socialism and other collectivist retards want to take 2 of them away from me since i'm ''only supposed to have 1 gf''. In fact, no, they want to take all 3 of my girls away from me ''because I'm black''. They want the state to come in and remove my girls from me just so they can partner them up with some of Richard Spencer's tiki torch virgin boys.

Collectivism is for losers, and doesn't value survival of the fittest/natural selection.

god i love her even more now, was thinking the exact same thing as i saw the picture

AND I KNOW SOON COME MY TIME
FOR IN MINE VOID A PALE HORSE BURNS
BUT I FEAR NOT THE TIME IM TAKEN
PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN
WAGE WAR LIKE NO TOMORROW
CAUSE NO HELL, THERE WON'T BE ONE
FOR ALL WHO DENY THE STRUGGLE
THE TRIUMPHANT OVERCOME

>Beleiving that individualism literally means no co-operation or larger groups


Whew lad, get your head on straight, you are not even close to reality.

Collectivism is the refuge of those too lacking in personal accomplishment who have over developed egos.

If that's true, then why are we so predictable as groups? Literally, supermarkets can predict which direction you walk around their store in - they use collectivism to sell you things - and it works!

shopworks.co.uk/file/de71b20c9d56b40a9af38affc4752ae4/right-or-wrong-.html

articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-10-13/features/sc-food-1008-supermarket-20101013_1_supermarket-science-dairy-case-bakery

forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2014/07/08/supermarkets-could-soon-control-where-you-walk/&refURL=https://duckduckgo.com/&referrer=https://duckduckgo.com/

Oy vey, he doesn't agree with our group think!

What's your individualist solution to the demographics? Or are you going to pretend problems don't exist if you can't solve them by yourself? Maybe races stop existing if we ignore the truths?

Still useful I'd say. Teaches that hierarchy, responsibility and sorting is good and shieet. Very weak with his arguments when they're against the far-right or white identity. Sometimes I think he's weak on purpose but then again he's probably simply a boomer.

Collectivism is for those who acknowledge human nature. Almost every single great feat achieved by humanity was achieved as a collective.

>National Socialism
>bad

lol

An Anglo-Saxon of all people doesn't know the difference between individualistic and collectivist traditions/political philosophies? Is this the power of Sup Forums?

Yup... and individualist groups are made up of stronger, more intelligent people who can stand on their own merits, who are used to conflict.

These hug box collectivists are still under the impression that just because the other side is more quiet, more polite, and has generally been *HELPING* the other side out of a genuine caring for all people, that they do not exist as a group.

Once they figure out that roughly half the people they know are actually not on their side, and are slowly waking up to the fact that they have been lied to/manipulated by using their most compassionate personality traits, that number will only grow.

This.

No it's not, because they had to have a form of authoritarianism shove in. If they got them in then good.

But today, white folk ain't doin shit, so natural selection is just playing it's game.

And good on these Jews/anyone who can play the capitalist game right. I got paper myself, I work self employed, and I make my music as a hobby while I also smoke weed and fuck my girls. Fuck you and your authoritarianism.

Also, if you claim to be a proud american, but at the same time values Nazism/Fascism, then you're a hypercritical retard, and a traitor to you nation. Stop posting with an american flag.

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He is guilty of reading Plebbit, for sure, but that's all

Individualism and Collectivism are both mental illnesses.