Admit it

admit it.
communism is the supperior economic system.

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name one country that has it

the old communist governments did amazingly well and only crumbled because of capitalist imperialism.

current communist governments only do bad because of capitalist sanctions and blockades. if they arent affected by that then they do really well compared to surrounding countries.

what job do yoh do, what skill set do you have?

>only crumbled because of capitalist imperialism

Superior capitalism wins again. Nice try you retarded faggot.

>Communism is superior economic system

>Fails because of capitalism

Sorry pal, guess you weren't superior

National Socialism is the superior economic system, but militarily you just can't beat literal zerg rushes from a soulless commie hell-hole.

It was a war of numbers and the Soviets had more men to throw around.

currently studying engineering. why the fuck would that even matter.

So what you are saying is communism is great on paper, but simply not competitive when other players are allowed to exist.
Sounds about right.

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>National Socialism is the superior economic system
Unsustainable. Was doomed to fail.

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It is the best at achieving famines, I give you that.

capitalist pigs ocuppied most of the world before communism. we had to fight a uphill battle and still did amazing alot of the times

sure...

good.
we will fight th pigs comrade.

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>we had to fight a uphill battle and still did amazing alot of the times
Pic related. Go back to engineering and let actual economists dictate economic decisions.

no im saying communism or any other system survives constant attack from the biggest economies in the world.

economy in the hands of the state will never work dumbass.

Dude you have to be 18+ to post here. Reported for underage.

Holy shit, that entirely sums up communist thinking. Their logic and facts are only sound when no other ideas are allowed to exist

Ya bro slaughtering 75 million people and forcing children to murder their elders was the price of Modern china let’s do it again !!!!

>old communist governments did amazingly well
dinosaurs did amezingly well too, died out because they couldnt adapt.

go to nk and enjoy it you dumb shit

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Russian user even communism on paper is pure evil, communism indirectly calls for genocide of those who refuse the New “paradise” religious folk and scholars especially.

and here comes the untrue capitalist coldwar propaganda.

like fucking clockwork.
soviet russia was one of the fastest industrialising countries in the world.

>Hurr extracting excess value and providing someone with a salary that was agreed upon without the use of force is equivalent to theft

So it literally cannot compete in the market, yet you claim it is the best economic system around? Fun fact, the Soviets received a fuck ton of aid from western powers and remained heavily reliant on western innovation for decades after the revolution. Communism couldn't compete, and then had to ask for handouts after the revolution to sustain itself.
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we all ready have a state funded engineer, you would be shot into a mass grave for being useless.

I'm actually interested to hear this from a "communist" as you claim to be. What are your thoughts on the mass genocides that took place in these communist countries like Russia, China, Cuba, Cambodia, and so on. What are your thoughts?

I really wish the whole world was communist, it would make things much easier for us.

Da comrade da capitalist propaganda da! Erase da opposition comrade and remove the old word comrade da!

>pure evil
we were talking about economics, not morals.
i agree with you though.

just like any revolution.

not knowning that nk isnt communist but actually japanese style fascism

Maybe so, but it was good while it lasted.

Have a cat.

Economically yes communism is indeed an equal system which I still see unfair, capitalism I do not agree with either but it’s much better then communism. Not all work deserves equal reward.

>It's a "we should try again the ideology that caused the worst totalitarian systems and directly killed millions of people because it sucked" episode
Embarrasing

Prove it

alot of the "genocides" are greatly exagerated by the us. the rest are but the result of revolution. the killings that are left after that would have happened even without communism

propaganda

When a Russian user who’s parents lived under communism tells you communism sucks but u continue on your first world computer praising communism...

It's not.

thats why revolutions are bad, you end up with worse people than before.
if most of the smart people get killed, what are you going to do afterwards?
look at the finnish winter campaign, generals literally to stupid to command forces, because all the experienced ones were either revolutionised or swapped with more political "comrades".

Ya dude the Soviet Union don’t worry about those 60 million evil bourgise scum comrade we put them in gulag and make them build Russia until they froze death then we removed evidence comrade don’t worry comrade no questions da.

you guys are like flat earthers with less evidence you know that

>USSR only reaches 60% GDP of US economy at it's zenith
>all communist countries switch out of attempting socialism within decades
>famines
>had to import from US during cold war
>had to import boots and jeeps to fight ww2
>these countries had immense amounts of manpower and natural resources in a unified bloc
>still fucked up constantly
>couldn't even produce enough washer,dryers, microwaves,etc

actual lol

This is actually an interesting topic considering that there are limited examples of countries prospering as they become socialist, but no examples to the contrary. This of course depends on what you count as socialist.

no
your mom gay
case closed

This is not exactly correct. For example vietnam and cuba are doing amazingly when compared to their capitalist peers.

>It was a war of numbers and the Soviets had more men to throw around.

Well cry more about, cry especially hard that the soviet work week still stayed at around 40 hours meanwhile Germans had to import Belarusians and Ukrainians to work and then die for them. Such a superior system, so much love they had for fellow Europeans...

>like flat earthers only with less evidence

fucking kek

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>no private enterprise
insta fail
enjoy your unmet demand, efficiency, empty shelves and low level of life

oh and its being universally enforced too

based Russian.

Modern economists actually seem to have very little idea on how to run the economy. I’d imagine physicists would do a better job.

I agree with CS Lewis in that an economy close to Christian morality would resemble socialism however some basic philosophic constructs of proper communism are to me meritless (dialectic materialism and historicism specifically)

>communism on paper is pure evil, communism indirectly calls for genocide of those who refuse the New “paradise” religious folk and scholars especially.
Source? And yes, nazis should get the bullet.

>Complains about killing people
>Posts pinochet

Though in the case of any communist revolution, the educated middle to upper class, including both economists and physicists would be killed.

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In the soviet union physicists were actually surprisingly safe because stalin considered nuclear technology imperative. Geneticists on the other hand...

Communism would probably work in a universe where original sin didn't exist and corruption was impossible. We do not and will not ever live in that universe. Therefore C.S. Lewis is half-right. It's close to Christian morality but it doesn't matter because human beings would have to be EXACTLY like Christ , which we all know is impossible.

I think you miss the point of Christ's mission entirely. You are basically saying that since it is impossible to be God himself men should give up morality entirely.

>communist
>people

Well you know what stalin thought of kulaks.

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No, i am not saying that. I am saying Christ was meant to be the goal we try to reach and even though we fall short, we are saved anyway. But we will always fall short, otherwise the sacrifice of Christ would not have been needed.

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Faith without works is dead. I don't think we were meant to imitate Christ, but through his Salvation we are sanctified by grace. Ultimately when Christ's work is finished there will be no economy but in the mean time i think it best to avoid all usury and practice charity as perfectly as we can.

your argument is untenable faggot

either you approve of barbaric means* that allowed soviet russia to industrialize (mass slave labour, mass executions for those who disagree)
*which means you must also approve of the means of the third reich because they were more efficient and successful and far less brutal than the soviet union - in which case your point is proven wrong.

The soviet union grew much faster than the third reich.

There's no supper in communism

the soviet union was born more than a decade before the third reich and did not industrialize its military until long after germany had.

But germany was far more developed when natsocs came to power.

germans were literally starving to death by the millions when they came to power

what the fuck are you on about

russians didn't starve to death by the millions UNTIL the communists came to power

absolutely rekt

Everyone in this thread

you think it's bait but communist types are so mentally defective they actually truly believe this

How much of russian history do you know? Look up famines in russia before 1917.

are you actually suggesting there was anything pre-communism that doesn't pale in comparison to the scope and scale of the colossal barbarity and inhumanity of communism?

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Every day same post same dipshits replying. The it changes it meme flag and reels in more retards. Board is barely readable

>the it changes it meme flag

whatever you say dipshit

If the capitalist imperialist nations keep destroying communist countries then communism isn't very strong. However that is not the case, they collapse under a lack of basic economic intellect.

>dinosaurs did amezingly well too, died out because they couldnt adapt.
Ummm, last time I checked birds are doing just fine.
Unlike gommunism. XD

I’ll actually take that a bit back. Tsarist russia unlikely experienced famines as bad as soviet one, but never the less its famines killed hundreds of thousands.

See my reply. The weimar germany famines were however not as bad as the tsarist russian ones.

>admit it.
>communism is the supperior economic system.
>supperior
Eat shit and kill yourself faggot.

Nice!

but were those famines intentionally engineered to kill millions of people? or were they just the result of series of uncontrollable events?

I would argue that the tsars’ disregard counts as guilt, but it’s not relevant to the question of who started from the better position, germany or ussr.

>I’d imagine physicists would do a better job.
No, they wouldn't. Economics is not a hard science like physics is. Economics is a comprehensive analysis of forces that affect the market and how it reacts. For example. You are selling potatoes, but are having a hard time selling them because nobody wants them. All of a sudden a new potato dish comes out in a high end restaurant that is all the rage. The demand has gone up and you are now selling more potatoes. In an ideal world the supply would always meet the demand. From there you get into why people agree into contracts and the whole mess of legal enforcement of those said contracts.

What the communists think, which is foolish, is that you can plan the market. You can boil down demand and supply into a simple mathematical equation that can be used to predict trends. Two problems arise, first is that this theory assumes that people are rational. They are not, many people act on impulses which affects how the market functions. Second is that the forces that enact themselves on the market outside of human causes are entirely random. Your potatoes are selling wonderfully, but you have a bad crop do to a vicious combination of disease and poor weather. The demand for potatoes is still high but you don't have the supply to meet it, so the prices go up. Eventually the demand for them will go down to meet the force that was placed upon the market.

>tl;dr you cannot accurately predict market trends to the degree necessary for a planned economy.

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>communism is the superior extermination system.

if by economy you mean exterminating people to rationalize food, increase revenue, wealth distribution amongst the remaining stockholm syndromed denourished komrades.....then YES! communist is the perfect "economical" system

i mean to say:
were the tsars making quotes like trotsky's
“You are starving? This is not famine yet. When your women start eating their children, then you may come and say we are starving.”

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Only if you are a retarded nigger incapable of producing anything of value in which you are a shit tier human and should neck yourself to get out of the gene pool

Communism is not an economic system. There is no economics of communism, only an ideology that people have always failed to translate to economics. As such "communist economy" is an oxymoron, and you a regular moron.