Age of consent laws past puberty are anti-science

If sex with a post-pubescence child were harmful to society, there would have been evolutionary preasure to further delay puberty. Instead, we actually evolved to have sexual urges after puberty. Banning adolescent sex is akin to banning facial hair. It's anti-science absurdity.

Longer life expectancy = high ages of consent, voting, drug use, ect . . .

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Adolescents may be physically capable, but they are in no way mentally or financially capable of dealing with and managing consequences and risks.

We don't need another sphere of society where Tweens are encouraged to do dumb shit and taxpayers have to fix the mess.

There were long periods of "normal" life expectancy in the ancient world (~65).

Regardless, how is harshly banning sex for a few extra years better for us just because we live longer on average.

you're moral compass is so fucked up from watching too much porn that you actually think its okay to lower the age of consent. Little girls don't even know what the fuck is going on let alone what sex is and the consequences accompanied with it. Pedophiles like you need to be killed and purged from society.

Body isn't finished developing until 18-21 (usually it's men that continue growing into early twenties)

Mind doesn't finish developing until mid twenties (about 25) which is partly why schizophrenia develops in your early twenties.

I think 17-18 is an appropriate age, but 40 year old creeps should be shamed for going after such a gap.

Germany has a consent age of 14 and no speed limit in areas.
Less road accidents and less teenage-pregnancy than countries with higher consent ages and speed limits.

Really makes you think.

>mentally or financially capable

In other words, neurologically ready and ready with material resources. These were pressures on the human specis as we evolved. So if say 13 is too young, why did evolution decide it was ok?

>There were long periods of "normal" life expectancy in the ancient world (~65

Only for the wealthy.

>lower the age of consent
>still can't get laid

neckbeards BTFO

I didn't mention morals. I mentioned science which is amoral

It didn't, at that age they aren't at their peak and their bodies are still small, meaning it's more painful and difficult to give birth due to narrow hips. They should give birth at their peak, not before.

obviously we need laws about prudence and women being faithful to their husbands and not some weird puritanical bs such as perfectly healthy and physically developed females not being able to have sex

Except they don't, it's you can fuck a 14 year old if you're under 18, nice try pedo.

>society, civilization
>evolution
The absolute state of amerishart thinkers.

>Body isn't finished developing until 18-21
True, but note that we continue to change our whole lives.

Again, it's anti-science to defy puberty as the evolved best start-time

Yeah, this I don't understand. It's as if no one actually understands how these laws work. That law isn't so adult predators can creep on kids, it's so if young teenagers experiment/etc they aren't legally punished.

Ancient Egypt had times of plenty for a large pesant class.

>anti-science
You keep saying this as if it makes you sound smart. It's not anti-science. I could get boners when I was 11 and jizz full loads when I was like 13, but I can compare then and now and I was mentally, physically and emotionally immature, and certainly not ready to be a father.

Puberty is the beginning of a growth process, you aren't an adult until it's over. Wait until it's over you weirdo.

>age of consent in my state is 16
#WiNNiNG

The problem is that we evolved in a very different environment than we live in now. The optimal age to start reproducing for our hunter gatherers is very different than the optimal age in a society where most people need to get educated, build a career, etc.

Its medically safe today for a ~13yo to reproduce. Try again.

I suppose so. Did their laws change?

That's absurd though.
If you study human anatomy and the history of pubescence till the unnatural and unhealthy daily consumption of milk white girls didn't start puberty till 14-16 rather than todays 8-12.
So yes, nature probably had that right, but drinking milk fucked it up.

Furthermore by this logic you could say if it was harmful to a prepubescent child, why do some people find them attractive regardless of upbringing, culture, or anything else, and why does sex as a child (like sex at any age mind you) release the same bonding hormones that promote an individual to feel safe, loved, and happy?
Unless you want to say evolutionary sex with babies is right then you shouldn't argue for a day before about 16. I don't care which, either position, while one is a bit disturbing, is respectable as it's held in rationality.

So which is it?
Personally I have no care for the age of consent being one thing or another and consider the "consent" meme to be a spook, as consent doesn't matter any other time in a child or teenagers life, so it's unfair to make it matter and make them unable to give it. At least be consistent in your treatment of children and what they're capable of.

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You people are all fucking idiots with this race mixing shit. Race mixing DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST because sex doesn't exist.

No one puts fucking private parts in their MOUTHS. They're PRIVATE parts, that's why people become embarrassed if someone sees them. You really thing someone would put it in their mouth?? OR THEIR OWN PRIVATE PART?!?! Yea, no.

Girls always wear make up and in general make a point of being clean, they're not going to let some gross organ where piss comes out of anywhere near them.

>But user how are babies made and why are some mixed

Because the Jews create babies in a lab to give the illusion that people are race mixing to fuck with you. I know what it's like being a virgin, I am one, so are all of you, so are all the so called chads and so are all niggers. Sex is just a joke being played on humanity by the Jews. We're all virgins, man up and admit it.

>But what about porn

Again, Jews. CGI and robotics. There's a reason it causes us pleasure to watch. Because doing such a thing in real life would be unfathomable. That's why fiction is so intriguing to us humans.

I refuse to believe there this world of pleasure out there that everyone is experiencing but me. Everyone talk about it. Everyone brags about it. Yet at the end of the day, it wasn't even real all along.

Either a woman or a cuck.

All you fuckers are ignoring the fact that whilst a 13 year old may have limited fertility, most don't have bodies capable of delivering a baby safely to term. Most can't resonibly carry a baby until at least 16 or 17. And age of puberty used to be a lot older. Fuck off pedo.

Why were AoC laws the very first thing the first-wave feminists shilled for?

You still need to get consent, anarkiddy

Either a jew or one of their minions.

This if a fucking bogus lie, women married very young in the past and it was considered normal. Average age for today’s brides is older than it’s ever been

Maybe on your miserable island shit colony you never experienced such things, but in the old United States adolescents were capable mentally and often even financially, and certainly understood the consequences.
That's because they weren't kept inside all day sucking down (((their))) media and being antisocial sacks of garbage.

While I agree how society is now they aren't ready, back in the day they most definitely were. That's because they were treated like people rather than lesser beings (children).

This desu, which is why as I said historically the pubertal age was much later than it is today.

>unnatural and unhealthy daily consumption of milk

Interesting, I was on soy as a child and only switched to milk later when lactose intolerance became unnoticeable, and I started puberty later than my peers.

Since growth isn't fully completed at puberty the birth canal is smaller. The hymen was the biological imperative to prevent sex. Pain is an excellent deterent. In nature a female getting pregnant as soon as mature egg production begins would lead to a lot of fetal and maternal death during birthing.

longer life expectancy is a myth. life expectancy in the past was actually well into the high 60s, generally, it's only offset by infant mortality. that's why you see claims of "life expectancy was only in the 30s" and stuff like that. it's not really true. a teenager in 1700 would have expected to live into his 60s.

so your claim is fake news and fake science. totally politically motivated mental gymnasium.

we also have evolutionary natural feelings to kill anyone to attempts to sleep w/ our daughters. Go ahead user. Make my day.

>The problem is that we evolved in a very different environment than we live in now.

I agree. Still, a main reason for age of consent laws is that it is allegedly psychologically harmful for a ~13yo to have sex, yet our brains evolved to do exactly that. Your arguement is a strong one for delaying parenthood, not sex.

Yeah but they never had kids till they were around 17 normally. But maybe I should just forget what I learned in med school so you can diddle kids and not feel bad.

it should also be mentoined that getting pregnant by 16 greatly reduces a woman's chances of getting breast cancer later in life.

This girl is 18 but looks 13. Such bait.

The problem is that retards like the faggots on pol think it's pedophilia if you think a post-pubescent girl is hot.
I have no problem with age of consent set to 18 or whatever to protect teenagers from their own stupidity. But it's not pedophilia to think a 16 year old with tits and ass is hot, even if you can't legally fuck her and therefore wouldn't.

People always complain about soy, and while it's not good for literal infants cow's milk is even worse, and during childhood years soymilk is actually healthy for girls, alright for boys, while milk is negative in both cases.

Personally I think the anti-soy meme is another one of (((their))) plots as it causes higher milk consumption which causes higher obesity, cancer, disease, etc, as well as early puberty, which has many bad affects, one being it rips off about 9years off the end of your life.

The same applies to eggs/meat though, well, I'm not sure about fish, but anyhow that's due to their high levels of animal-hormones, as y'know, they're from animals.
That really fucks with kids hormones to say the least.
But nothing is as bad as milk.

if nature auto-corrected everything harmful to a species pedos like you wouldnt exist

There shouldn't be an AoC. A girl is property of her father, it's up to him when and to whom to marry her and if he wants to do her before that he can.
AoC is an anti-family concept designed to turn girls into sluts.
Look at this dumb cuck here

technically if that were true then more pedos would exist, and people who lusted for older women, or women past their sexual prime (which happens in their teen years) wouldn't exist. that's just the simple factual science of it

I think I have an jpeg. pertaining to the specifics being discussed herein, oh yes, here it is.
And that's just one of many, mah boi.

this is the truth. also that guy with the "higher age of consent because of longer life expenctency" thing is citing an urban myth. life expectancy wasn't significantly shorter in the past, only infant mortality was. if you correct for infant mortality the life expectancy was only like a decade shorter, usually into the mid to high 60s, and of course it dependent on your economic situation too

I literally said exactly this

Most retarded shit I've ever seen. I'm a WN but this "hurr being a pedo is redpilled because not fucking kids is anti white and shit skins don't have to follow the law". Literally anything to support your agenda.

it is ultimately the responsibility of the father and the family to protect their children though, NOT the government

We also used to burn people alive for being supernatural demon witches, or we'd throw them into the river and watch them drown. Truly remarkable times.

How do you guarantee the delay of parenting, if not by abstinence?

to keep women from marrying respectable men while they were young
to force teen women into further education and working for wages
to sully the reputations of men who sought to court and marry young women
also, in an attempt to force established men to marry older women/spinsters who were in their 20s and 30s
finally, to promote the promiscuity of unmarried teens....leading to an explosion of teens marrying teens and young families living in poverty

Thats why historically 15 and 16 were consistently used as a the standard for when women should be allowed to be married off often to an older man at least 18-20. It was unsafe historically to have a baby before this age as the hips do not reach their ideal size until then. I think 15 or 16 are perfectly acceptable limits of consent.

It’s also anti-multicultural and anti-choice.

I think that women pushed for age of consent laws somply to harm men. Even worse, they conflated adolescent sex with prepubescent sex and incest. Our society now literally responds to adolescent sex the way ancient societies responded to incest, which is age-independent strictly speaking.

>didn't start puberty till 14-16
Are you fucking retarded. They end at 14 and it’s always been that way. Read a fucking health book.

They end around 18 you fucking retard lol. My sister says she and her friends didn't start until around that age.

That's not the kind of reply I expect, mah boi. Now get on with your chores before I give you a whippin'. Didn't raise you to be a dumb thot. Bring your little sister around after supper for my visitors.

>anecdotes versus statistics about the general population

Are you a leftist?

>My sister says she and her friends didn't start until around that age
Are they gymnasts? Do you have pictures of this supposed gymnast sister of yours?

No, faggot, I'm talking about a fact and giving an anecdote alongside that fact.

No to both, also unironically drink bleach.

this post is gold

No you're retarded; this is the average age of the first menstruation of a girl throughout recorded history.
That means the first time they have a period/bleed. That's the signal they are starting puberty. They aren't really ready for pregnancy or significantly developed for a couple years generally after it.

How about you read a book or look even on wikipedia you shill?

Are you an abbo or something mate?
As I said now it's different and much younger you fucking baboon.

and then you faggots wonder why the fertility rate among white people is collapsing. because you jsut want your girls to start whoring from their teen years to their thirties.

other civilizations are smart enough to know that you marry off girls when they are young, and you have a lot of kids. by the time they're thirty they should have five or six kids at least. isntead of being some nasty infertile roastie with cervical cancer.

Oh, so they're anorexics? Besides being gymnasts/ballerinas/similar or anorexics there isn't much reason they'd experience menarche so late as "around 18". Except a hormonal disorder

No they were normal. They weren't ballerinas or whatever weird shit you keep bringing up. I don't know what toxic waste dump you grew up around.

It's a fact puberty doesn't finish until around 18, if you want to be a deluded pedo then that's up to you, I just hope you get nice black cocks in your anarkiddy bunghole in prison.

that extends well past her becoming an adult

Not saying I don't believe you, but can you back that up?

>random fucking chart
You’ll have to do better than that. You’re retarded if you think diet can alter millions of years of evolution in a few decades. A year or two is one thing but almost a decade differnce would only mean that we’re evolving and theirs nothing we can do except lower the age of consent.

Meanwhile men don't end puberty in their mid-twenties, mah boi. Schopenhauer said the later to reaching maturity, the more noble. Tis' true, mah boy, even though you are a sissy and disgrace to your father, many of us recognize females as the primitive disposable beast of burden they be. Tis' Indeed. Gmo food makes them mature and die faster as well, might as well make use.

>How about you read a book or look even on wikipedia you shill?
Every health book I read in high school and college said puberty ends at 14. Don’t reply. Just go to your local college and check for yourself. I’ll wait.

until their mid-twenties, mind you*

As mentioned above, it depends heavily on caloric intake. It was not uncommon for ~13 yo girls to be pubescent during times of plenty. Also, boys become pubescent at ~13 regardless of caloric intake.

Considering that humans used to die at 20, I doubt this is accurate

I believe you are falsifying data, traitorous cheat and fraud! 14 is the female expiration date, though, no denying that. Once the fermentation processes begin, cannot be reversed.

This joke has never been funny.

its human decency you fuck

10 years on this site and you just posted my favorite post of all time

HS and College text books are always right
You must be 13 if you believe that.

"The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world".

>still thinking this world isn't filled to the brim with degenerates

But that's scientifically incorrect so either you're lying or you're consumed by delusional.

(you)

Delusion*

>You’re retarded if you think diet can alter millions of years of evolution in a few decades. A year or two is one thing but almost a decade differnce would only mean that we’re evolving and theirs nothing we can do except lower the age of consent.
No you fucking brainlet.
We didn't evolve.
Nothing changed.
It's just when you eat foods with tons of animal hormones as a child it fucks your shit up and causes you to start earlier. Much earlier.
You can go look at vegan peoples kids for example, theirs despite their parents eating that stuff (which affects them) previously they still usually start around 14-15 rather than 8-12.

The chart is from a well-read medical book published in 1999. It's real.

You're a brainlet.
grrrr
I bet you think I'm a pedo since I posted a kid facepalming, here's another so you lose your fucking mind you illiterate baboon.

Ends now, yes generally.
However that's not natural. Now the books are beginning to accept it as fact rather than mention the historic reality that puberty started much later.
This is because of (((corporate))) influences in universities and the general shitting up of universities and education.

XXXXXDDDDDDDDD to you to sir

Women and men should be pure until they marry. They have 0% risk of sexually transmitted diseases, pregnancy, and heartache.

no. age of consent laws serve to protect intellectually less developed children from being preyed on by older humans. the REAL solution is universal, perfect birth control, and encourage kids to have as much sex as they want, with their own age. also, dont abuse "sexual predator" status, as its abused now.

Just for clarity though; let's say that theoretically, somehow a girl got access to your alcohol stash, began to make advances kay, and then somehow, accidentally your thingy somehow ended up in her mouth like maybe 250-300 times, and then you accidentally released several ounces of wheat field fertilizer kay. is that consider to be anything that rhymes with 'Snow Job' or 'Squoral Smex' or anything like that?hypothetically of course
>AskingForAFriend.jpg

This is a discussion of science not morals you meat-sac go neck yourself if you can't contain your emotions.

These days, you'd better marry them off by age eight.

>10 ways to calm an angry child
If one of them isn't "fill her mouth full of cock" this list is bullshit. Just look at that face, cute little mouth made to suck dick.
>girls should be sluts
Legitimately neck yourself

>Mind doesn't finish developing until mid twenties
explain women acting like children up until menopause

OP is correct, all the social shit going on now wiith later and later age of consent, even later actual sex for having children (much later), gay shit, trans shit, etc.

is all for population control and reduction.

And scientifically we are correct. All the pedos and their hurt fee fees because da gubbament won't let them fuck kids should put away their emotions, I agree.

People shouldn't be fucking period.
>MUH POPULASHUN MUH WYT RASE
Fuck off. You're not entitled to exist, or live for that matter.
300% taxation on food and water when?

>up until menopause
Hahahaha, it's like you've never been around an old crone. They're just as stupid emotional and childish as any other females.

Explain that to her dad not us

Idk if trolling or actually pedophile but (you) need to slit your wrists and bleed to death in a bath tub.

Developee mind =/= intelligent mind

Developed*
FUG

Wow RUDE admire don't sexualize fampi

The more you post the more I think you're a literal paid shill.
Piss off, cunt.

There was evolutionary pressure to delay puberty. It is largely epigenetic. People who grow up in unstable environments reach puberty sooner. Not having 2 parents seems to be a key epigenetic stressor.