please give me VERIFIABLY FACTUAL information on hitler/nazis. how were they good and not bad. is halocaust real or not? prove it please. anyone lurking feel free to lurk in here to get redpilled too.
jesse owens and general patton kind of redpilled me a little bit. i want to know facts. why did hitler invade poland? did he want to kill jews? why did he hate them? thank you, pic kind of related
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you'd think Sup Forums would be foaming at the mouth at this...maybe my pic isn't catching attention, dont want to save a swastika on my pc though..yet
and no, i am not watching a 6 hour documentary
>halocost
It's 'Hall of Cost', retard
Take the red pill m8 download a swastika
not yet dude. need some facts first. not bullshit. i want to be thoroughly convinced
Well what is it exactly you seek
basically why isn't world war 2 his fault, and what was his issue with jews? and the true nature on the "halocaust"
I'll take the bait,
1) No death camp has every been verified by the US. Every single place that the Jews claimed to be a death camp was found to simply be a concentration camp. The rest were in Soviety territory after the war, and no one knows what they found, or what their investigations were like.
2) The gas used by the Nazis to "kill Jews" was Zyklon-B. It's a delousing agent. It was used to control the typhus outbreak happening at the time (i.e. what killed Anne Frank). The Nazis were trying to save lives.
3) The "gas chambers" had wooden doors. They weren't even remotely air tight. A delousing agent in a non-airtight gas chamber is an awful way to kill millions and millions of Jews.
4) The present number of holocaust victims is said to be 11-12 million. Think of about 20 prisons, each standing for about 4 years, killing 12 million people. The Nazis would need to kill over 8200 people per day, every day. And they apparently accomplished this with impossible amounts of DELOUSING AGENT.
The Holocaust is bullshit.
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He beat me to it However I can go further with you if you want
then you're not going to find out
it's like saying: I want to learn physics and have someone teach you everything in 10 mins
Jeez. just as Im getting ready to go to bed.
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the greatest story never told is the most commonly linked thing for a reason
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let a jew explain it to you
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Go read or watch some David Irving, user.
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Here is a video showing people gassing others with Zyklon-B in an experiment.
They were fine after an hour. The official Jewish lie said that this stuff killed a whole room of people in 15 minutes.
>Thinking history in terms of good vs bad
>Wanting to be convinced that nazis were good
>Thinking nazis saw themselves as a moral light per se
What about maturing your view of political affairs first, you fucking idiot, do you think history is a superman comic or a hollywood movie? There is no good or bad when two lions compete for supremacy, only winners and losers.
They screamed SIEG HEIL not WE ARE A FORCE OF GOOD HEIL
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Hitler did nothing wrong.
hmmm..makes some sense. no camps were ever discovered by US though? who are all those halocause survivors i met though? are they actors or what? genuinely curious, no bait
The German National Socialist Party was explicitly anti-communism, and won elections primarily by this platform. It just so happened that coincidentally Jews in Germany were very interested in communism, more so than others.
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post pic> need a new background
i feel we are at a point where we can be objective morally about history, as long as we get all facts straight. it's not even "good vs bad" just not the current story we're told of hitler and nazis
>its another Nazi thread
We have talked this issue to death. Want a fresh one? Research how many times the Japanese Empire requested peace from America so they could team up to fight commies.
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Hitler united western europe against jewish-bolsheviek communism which had previously decimated eastern europe.
The extremist jews behind the communist agenda wanted to destroy christianity and western civilization.
A lot of jews were actively involved in this, the jews at that time were unique in the fact that they were a nation without a land. They consisted of several cities in nations around the world and operated as a confederation. Each nation had a confederation of zion, and Poland is where it was the most dense.
These jews systematically took control of western banking, western media and organized crime in the United States, England, Germany and France before and during World War 1.
During World War 1 Germany was betrayed and backstabbed by its own jewish citizens (which were highly respected). Jews formed the pivotal economic policies between germany and the US during the bismark era, they also were the ones who betrayed germany by having its sister nation decimate it in world war 1.
it gets so much deeper than this, and this is more an organization of psychopathic megalomaniacs that hide behind judea, freemasonary etc.
why didn't the US accept peace? i am taught they nuked japan twice because they never surrendered
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this is new to me, gimme the best sources
Watch the following
>b-but I heard 6 million died in the holocaust!
Normies swallow 6 gorillion because they never critically examine such a grisly topic, believing (((Hollywood))) and Allied history is 100% factual
>b-but what about the Nuremberg trials! Some Nazis admitted war crimes, so it must be true Hitler had a Final Solution to kill all the Jews!
Allies tortured German POWs. Gerstein claimed 25 million were killed, does that sound believable? At Dachau Nazis had their testicles kicked in and crushed beyond repair
At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) said 4 million died in gas chambers. Today, the death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes), though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
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>b-but it wasn't just Auschwitz!
At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) said 2 million were killed in gas chambers.
Now they say The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
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>b-but the Reinhard death camps: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec!
There is little to support the claim that tens of thousands, let alone 1.3 MILLION died
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
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>b-but Nazis made lampshades out of tattooed Jewish inmates!
The lampshade myth comes from a propaganda film made to de-Nazify Germany by a US Psych Warfare unit
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
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>b-but I've seen Steven Spielberg's Survivors of the Shoah!
Watch the following
>The Last Days of the Big Lie
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>o-ok, let's suppose you're right. Why does it matter?!
It matters because no one can criticize the Jews without being labeled an anti-semite. Denial is ILLEGAL in 20 countries
>The JQ:
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Japan wanted peace from before the war started up until the end. Even before pearl harbor when the globalist embargo on oil (which was 80%+ their imports) was threatening to collapse their entire economy, they were begging America to stop the embargo. After Pearl Harbor? They asked for surrender. But nope, we made sure to completely dismantle their soceity. Why?
Because they were a massive threat to communist China and Russia
I know these things. Its a shame the western powers were blinded by Jew Lies
Remember the 11 million, goy!
>11 million? I thought it was 6 million.
No, it was 11 million, believe us!
The "day that will live on in infamy" the American public was sold on was that Japan attacked after being offered peace, because they wanted to conquer American
In reality America had already all but declared war with the oil embargo and knew Japan was going to act out of desperastion, and that would be the perfect way to start a war supported by the typically isolationist Americans
i understand that they were a threat, BUT they were super aggressive. are you saying they were being defensively aggressive? why attack pearl harbor at all? why give the US a reason to join the war vs japan/germany?
i can understand it gets deeper than this, but how do you know that information? it is nowhere to be found.
Because they knew by doing nothing their entire civilization was going to fall apart. We have on record, just look at wikipedia, that the generals knew they couldnt win against America. Every negotiation possible in peace resulted in a strict no. Their only hope was a quick attack to devestate the navy and ask for peace afterwards, a truce and an end to the fighting.
dude, a world war 2 veteran who was on pearl harbor in 1941, spoke with my class a long time ago, he said he was already 95 years old and had nothing to lose, he said FDR allowed pearl harbor to happen. he said they had orders to stand down from japanese warplane that they saw coming hours away
could be adding up
Nazis were in par with Americans and the French.
They were probably not the worst moral forces on the war, nor they were the best too.
Wasn't it revealed that the whole 11 million death toll thing was made up by that (((wiesenthal))) guy?
so they got nuked why then? why didn't they surrender after the first nuke
>We have talked this issue to death.
And yet there are still people who think it happened. We cannot stop spreading the truth, ever.
The name escapes me but there was a document declassified in 1994 with rhe specific plan of how to drae support from the public for a war against Japan. Forcing Japan into attacking by tying a noose around their economy was the main strategy.
Also we are repeatedly told the sad news that we had radar technology and saw the attack coming but was told it wasnt possible. That was always referred to as a big mistake. But it was willfully ignored while our most important ships, our carriers, were not at ancor. We had already planned to change our fleet doctrine and to not use the ships ancored at pearl habor as much as the ships at sea.
Because the demands were a complete and total dismantling of their society and a stripping of all weapons and military. They saw the growing threat of the Chinese and Russia commies and didnt trust America to defend them. Japan had spent the last few decades fighting commies in the first and second Sino Japanese wars. They knew the threat they posed
The 1918 jewish revolution to put in place a communist government with full control of the media was news to me sadly. I was always told the jewish hate was a scape goat. What a load of horse shit.
I didn't look into it, but I've seen that number used in the mainstream media. Obviously it's fucking made up.
I know that part
can you point me in the direction of stuff where japan asked for peace with america
i just don't get why the US would WANT to be attacked
ok. makes more sense
Look up the global Jewish boycott of Nazi Germany. That is the reason Germany boycotted German-Jewish businesses, and ultimately why WW2 began. Germany needed to conquer more of Europe in order to out-influence Jews.
Jews won WW2, and we're all paying for it today.
but some anons say ww2 was started because of germans being genocided by polish in danzig. so it was hitler wanting to control europe to outinfluence jews? too many conflicting explanations man
china wasn't communist at all during the first sino japanese war if I recall?
america wanted to test the nuke and to show dominance to russia
japan didn't surrender because the losses (while still ultra destructive for hiroshima) were still small compared to conventional firebombing, tokyo firebombing killed more people
it was when russia declared war on them after the nukes, that they surrendered, there was no possibility of victory against usa and russia, they were already low on supplies
the american public did not want to go to war, they needed an event to get involved
If we accept that 6000000 Jews weren't systematically killed by Nazis during WW2, wouldn't it make sense for Jews from that time to be alive today.
Unless you're asking "Are they all liars or what?" Of course they are. Pic related.
The Holohoax is an infinite source of leverage. Jews have "Holocaust Museums" in every major Western city. Their people prosper from this story immensely, and at our expense.
>no camps were ever discovered by US though?
Perhaps you misunderstood? No DEATH camps were discovered by the US, only prisoner camps. Jews called them all death camps... the US did not find evidence for this, ever.
>Japanese planning was for fighting a limited war where Japan would seize key objectives and then establish a defensive perimeter to defeat Allied counterattacks, which in turn would lead to a negotiated peace.[70] The attack on the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, with carrier-based aircraft of the Combined Fleet was to give the Japanese time to complete a perimeter.
>The Japanese leadership was aware that a total military victory in a traditional sense against the USA was impossible; the alternative would be negotiating for peace after their initial victories, which would recognize Japanese hegemony in Asia.[71] In fact, the Imperial GHQ noted, should acceptable negotiations be reached with the Americans, the attacks were to be canceled—even if the order to attack had already been given. The Japanese leadership looked to base the conduct of the war against America on the historical experiences of the successful wars against China (1894–95) and Russia (1904–05), in both of which a strong continental power was defeated by reaching limited military objectives, not by total conquest.
>i just don't get why the US would WANT to be attacked
>Before the attack on Pearl Harbor, the 800,000-member America First Committee vehemently opposed any American intervention in the European conflict, even as America sold military aid to Britain and the Soviet Union through the Lend-Lease program. Opposition to war in the U.S. vanished after the attack.
Holy shit a massive boycot is essentially what the emargos were against Japan. It was literally a complete embargo because thec what would eventually be called globalists, had so much power they could completely brick their economy
I don’t understand your conclusion. What did their threat to the Chinese or Soviets have to do with us? We were already at odd with communism before WW2 broke out.
>Every negotiation possible in peace resulted in a strict no.
where can I find out more info on this?
also a similar thing happened with nazi germany, they pushed for peace with britain many times
General note regarding peace treaties: when you’ve committed massive amounts of time, resources, and people, you’re not going to want to accept any peace agreement that is not very favorable to you. Total war changes diplomacy. I don’t doubt that Japan and Germany sued for peace in the early 40s, but I wonder what the terms were.
Full of bullshit in this thread. Nazi started the war, killed millions, destroyed empires.
ok thanks
Jews are globalists. Globalists are Jews. They're the same thing. The MSM and the central banks are all majority Jew-owned in the West.
The only people in the West who acknowledge this are White Nationalists. Literally everyone else is either a retarded normie with their head in the sand, or using the lie to their own advantage.
why not just fight russia? why nuke japan lol
i guess, are they all liars? what are the tattoos? real from the labor camps?
I’ve met a few black nationalists that acknowledge this as well. Doesn’t detract from your point, but I always found it interesting.
Because Japan and America shared a common enemy. Japan just had America go fucking psyco and commit their entire exitence into wiping out their way of life. They werent accepting the surrender near the end because it was on the condition that they give up all weapons and military for the vision of america protecting them from the soviet and chinese threat. There was no way the japs were going to trust America to protect them. They only agreed at the end because of the combined might o Russia's invasion, the firebombings, and the nuclear bombs
Exact dates sadly seem to have been scrubbed from pages like wikipedia. It just references repeated attempts at peace without giving reference.
Japan is way less censored than Nazi Germany so you can still dig and find shit though
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See? They will never stop. They will never be honest. And we must never stop, either. Until we win.
Yes, I know, it's a remnant from the days of Malcolm X, who named the Jew.
Blacks are the willing servants of Jews. They are the ones who vote for communistic/socialistic policies, and they are used to stoke the flames of White Guilt.
>why not just fight russia? why nuke japan lol
war is expensive, russia was still an ally for ww2, they already lost so many people in the pacific and europe, and russia has loads more people
however this eventually turned into the cold war with proxy battles between russia and usa
>i guess, are they all liars? what are the tattoos? real from the labor camps?
concentration camps are real, they were put there to work
but there's not much evidence they were put in camps to be exterminated
some may be executed if they didn't work
this post is so red piling...fuck...