What’s really going to happen when majority of jobs are automated? No meme answers like Venus project

What’s really going to happen when majority of jobs are automated? No meme answers like Venus project.

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Mars Project

White people will become niggers

Jupiter Project

Saturn Project.

Sage production will be way up

Mercury project

what you really want to think about is what happens when the military and law enforcement is automatized
because until that happens you will still need other humans to keep the poor and disenfranchized in line - and humans soldiers could take a pity on fellow humans stripped of everything they might even decide to take the govt down before they themselves become poor and disenfranchized
this ofc stops to be a problem when you replace humans with robots

and hwat will happen then? The same thing that happened every time the ruling cast got too far ahead of everyone and lost its moral backbone along the way - the rich will live like gods and the poor will die. Just the scale will be global.

Darwinism happens. AI replacing humanity is not as bad as it sounds, we aren't crying over dinosaurs going extinct either.

The west had it all figured out really. The population implosion was going to occur right as automation when exponential.

BUT NOOOOO! We need more young people to pay into all the commie ponzi schemes like Social Security. Who's going to take care of the childfree non-grannys?

Population will drop by 99%

In the event that there isn't harsh government regulation and welfare, either it balances out because what's the point if no one can afford anything you make? Or everything becomes so cheap that if you have at least a positive net worth you can afford everything you could ever want.

the majority of jobs is already mechanized

if the demand of people is infinite
no matter how many jobs are killed there will always be more

the real problem is the new feudalism -- where rich people are not interested in useless eaters. As long as their demands are met, the demands of the flock can be safely ignored. Saving up resources is more useful than entertaining the slaves

Then do like me ; Get a job in repairing the damn robots

I hope full scale war against machines

You still need a consumer base for this to work, right?

UBI will replace the current debt driven model of economics. Socialist paradise.

Then I'll get a job selling tools to robot repairmen

good

those unwilling to adapt have failed evolution desu

>the automation meme

Because every job that will ever be created was already created right? It's not like new technology will introduce new jobs that weren't their before just like what happened in the industrial revolution.

No no I'm going to sit here and pretend to be intelligent

At work they replaced the parking garage attendants with robots.

Now I get a call every 10 minutes or so requesting help from someone that doesn't understand how to scan a ticket and pay a machine.

Robots will NEVER replace humans in service industry.

Uranus Project

Seeing as how population levels are naturally declining (almost in sync) with job automation within first world countries as it is, one can assume that it will continue to do the same thing. With that being said, birthing policies might need to be placed upon 2nd/3rd world countries to keep their population levels down.

People will still be needed, but the types of jobs will change dramatically.
> Scientists, Engineers, Doctors, researchers, etc.

No more plumbers, construction workers, supply warehouse workers, etc. We need to keep humanity balanced. Have at least one kid, you won't want them to miss out on that kind of a future.

What will nigger become, then?

bingo

naggers

I live 50 minutes away from these. I need to go up to them one day and make a thread

All I want is a massive plague or calamity to kill off 90%+ of the population, thanks.

Move over memers, I’m referencing the zeitgeist movies

Massive unemployment and social instability of the lower classes.

I'm gonna own robot repair bots as private property commies. Perhaps I'll even program them to unionize so they might keep meatbags out of that line of work.

Amusement parks are about as automated as you get. How many people work there again?

Not really, we'll just sell to robots and AIs using bitcoin.

yeah, keep dreaming

Production output will increase, and humans will be able to do more in less time.

Jobs need not change.

/thread

What does the increase of capital result in OP?

>all the machines at my workplace are at least 40 years old
I'm sure the capability of full automation will take place a decade or two from now, but it'll take at least half a century for companies to finally adopt the technology.

Well if companies want to sell their products and keep the economy turning over, the genpop will have to be given some form of allowance.

If its simply about transfer of wealth people will be forced back to growing their own food/making their own products. Possibly with some cool hi-tech phones thrown in.

A lot of people with a lot of free time.

>Full automation
How do you fully automate education? How do you fully automate trade? Tell me one thing you can "fully automate".

They will close the borders.

Poland invasion

That’s not the problem. Industrial revolution came around and the largest problem was having to move into the city and how to work a machine. It didn’t remove jobs for the middle class, it just caused them to adapt. Not the case with automation, the middle class and poor will have to afford higher education, succeed in theory based maths to get engineering, CS, Science, math degrees just be qualified for a job. There will be absolutely no way that the poor can come out of this without massive welfare or without dying out.

>moral backbone
I have not heard this term before.
Do you really think true automation could be trusted in policing/military roles?
I see too great a risk of skynet-tier fates.

>No meme answers like Venus project.

Except it's the truth, faggot.

>It didn’t remove jobs for the middle class

there was no real middle class before
most people were in the lower class

can i get a quick rundown?

You think the commie surveillance/basic income state is going to let PEOPLE repair bots? You might disable the always on camera or mic.

How do you educate a dog to solve complex calculus? Answer: you don't because it's just a stupid dog.

Just replace dog with human.

your dear leader died
how do you react?

Society devolved into a small oligarchy of roughly 0.1% of the population that controls the majority of wealth and the masses are subdued by expansive media controls and consumerism.

Wait, fuck.

computers are even dumber than people

inb4
>>bbbut in 5 years, .....

this

it's only going to get worse

It actually created the middle class. All those faggots were unbelievebly poor, had shit conditions at farms and they worked from litte kid to death, but on farms.

The industrialisation made socialism because rich stupid faggots in cities saw the massess come live near them.

Automation doesn't delete jobs either, it moves them. More people will be paid better for shit like cleaning, exc.
That's a retarded fucking answer. There will always be teaches.
This, same situation. If goverments exist then the 0.1% will steal from everyone else by goverment monopoly but everyone will get richer.

>he says in his room that has air conditioning no one could afford 100 years ago even if they owned all the wealth in the world.

>Population will drop by 99%
That would be awesome. The world would be so much more enjoyable that way.

Yeah but jews and other elites have used countries to steall all of our wealth.
With just 2 taxes in Poland, the goverment takes away 60% of a worker's pay. We are slaves to our goverments essentialy.
A free man should be taxes 5% at most or a tax that has a concrete value like 100$ 200$ exc.
>World pop drops by 99% causing HUNDREDS of crises at once
>Enjoyable
Choose one.

females go extinct and all males become neets w/ robowaifus

Let's try and look at the situation from the position of a Mentat assessing information:

- You have owners and capitalists of various types, they own: Property/resources, automated production capabilities, energy resources

- We extract resources and spend energy to build products to sell to the public.

- If the public has no jobs, they have no money, if they have no money, they cannot buy products - even if the price of the goods drops through the floor.

- The public are essentially useless. They no longer produce anything, the only consume. At best they can be used as a litmus for investment in production; e.g. high demand for product of type A means more should be invested in that product (the invisible hand of the free market)

- But, again, the public needs a way to make that demand visible and without money from jobs, that can't happen

So what are the solutions?
We give everyone money for no reason?
We kill everyone who is useless and unable to produce, but by doing this also make vast swathes of industry pointless because the populations aren't big enough to necessitate it causing a feedback loop of people becoming useless?
We force everyone into fakejobs to earn money?

We decentralize energy production, resource extraction, and product production so that everyone is a consumer/producer rather than large centralized corporations of only a few dozen stakeholders and maintenance engineers?

Universal income, or massive increases in crime and homelessness. Only two options.

>>World pop drops by 99% causing HUNDREDS of crises at once
>>Enjoyable
>Choose one.
Do you really think that will happen before measures are in place? Don't forget, the elite are going to want to survive all of this. That probably won't happen until after AI and robotics/automation becomes sufficient enough to handle the load all the useless meat leaves behind.

>unemployment rises & rises
>former blucollar workers become new underclass
>"muh get better education" despite the fact, that it is just silly to expect the 90-105 iq-bracket endlessy educating
>more divide
>eugenics/euthanasia become accepted
>engineered plagues/sterilisations
>socialism will fail when the gib-takers multiply
>native pop vs. immigrants
>immigrants vs. immigrants
>gov vs. people
>jewing intensifies
>euthanasia of pensioners will become accepted
>prison pop multiplies
>healthcare crumbles

The downward spirale can't be stopped and will accelerate.

Corporate feudalism where you have corporations instead of kingdoms, and low iq consumers being subsidized just enough so that they wont rise up and destroy everything in a frenzied Luddite rage. This is the best case scenario. I suspect the elite will continue to play the stupid masses against each other using identity. In fact I suspect identity politics will explode as automation destroys the middle class. A world filled with jobless adult men is a prime recipe for a revolution. It wouldn't surprise me if after a certain point the corporate elite dont try to depopulate the world massively either subtly or outright.

Yah I don't see anything wrong with a 99% pop drop. More pop = lower standards of living, and overpopulation is the biggest contributor to climate change, habitat loss, species extinction and pollution. We cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet.

>With just 2 taxes in Poland, the goverment takes away 60% of a worker's pay. We are slaves to our goverments essentialy.
Why not come to America where you're taxed around 20% at a lower income or 30% at a middle income? Let me guess it's because the government doesn't provide you with everything.

You need to pay people who provide you with services at some point. For European countries it's through taxes. Not saying America is a free market paradise but there's a reason your tax rates are so high.

>I don't understand economics, the post.
Of course it would, labour is cheaper the more humans you have. The automation meme is just that, a meme. It's cheaper short-term to hire a worker than to install a machine that costs 1m$ but saves you 1000$. Sometimes a 100 years can be considered short-term and humans will be always looking maximally to their children lives.

>everyone is going to have a job repairing robots.

It's going to be like that one movie where you make money by watching ads all day.

There is no justification for that. A free market would ENSURE we have the exact quality we pay for. Everything public in poland is absolutely shitty.
Shity education, shitty healthcare, shitty insurance, shitty roads, shitty goverment, shitty military, shitty laws prohibiting our freedom.
The goverment just provides themselves a moral argument to steal from you, just like Abe did to justify his Northern Agression.

>I don't see anything wrong with a 99% pop drop
>oh shit! what happened to the electricity?
>wtf why isn't the tap water running?
>what do you mean we ran out of food?
>does anyone know how to fly planes?
>wow, it's been 7 months and I still haven't received my Amazon prime buttblasting mega dildo

After all taxes are added up it’s more like 40 percent here. They are robbing us blind to be sure

in terms of manufacturing type work, automation has already happened. The net result is that a lot of very, very average people who were making good money before lost their jobs with massive increases in corporate efficiency. Oh well.

A lot of shit cannot get automated. Sales, engineering, executive work, physical trades work, medical jobs - you can't train a computer to interact with people face to face in any meaningful manner, nor can you whip up a custom $1,000,000 robot to go in and fix plumbing in tight spaces when the fucking pipes are leaking 1000 gallons per hour.

The real threat is increased pressure on very very average people. It's already a mess to try and get any kind of decent work if you are high school educated only, or have a shit tier college major. That is only going to get a lot worse as time moves on.

>former blucollar workers become new underclass
Replace that with everyone who's not related to or buddies with a billionaire.

if you add european taxes up you're probably at 75% lol

>Solar/wind
>Rainwater, local rivers/streams
>Growing your own, permaculture local farmers market communities
>Travelling lul
>Consumerism lul

There may be some hiccups sociologically but those people who are more in control of this would have to be idiots to disregard the consumer. These people are not that stupid. It reminds me of the Y2K scare. There may be some increases in class difference and the shed off of the ultra poor, there may be some severe hiccups (probably not), but mostly it will go just like anything else. ome kind of basic income will be implimented. Without commerce these systems would fail and be misanthropic, especially in the early stages and we have just begun. This is the beginning of a new frontier.

Not unlike the world of Cherry 2000.

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That being said i don’t mind having a good police force. The road system could be better. Sewage is good. And that’s pretty much all i get. Oh yeah and the military ensuring we get all the imports we need through mercenary activities

true, however, it's not a bad thing if the average people did some kind of study to improve on something, the thing where this makes it or breaks it is whether or not completing such a certificate/study will actually help

Dude it's much fucking higher than that if you consider how many times a product gets taxed before it goes out. Let's take chips for example:

Potatoes are taxed by a man who got taxed at his farm that had workers that were taxed, then those potatoes are transported with gasoline with ~50% taxation by a taxed worker to a industry. This industry is taxed, has taxed workers, then those chips are transported to a taxed shop with taxed workers where they are sold with another tax.
I wonder how much every product consists of taxation, VAT is 23% basic in Poland, the goverment steals 40% of every worker's payment. This is shit-bat crazy. I'm glad those damn Romanians are lowering their taxes, in 10 years we'll be immigrating there for work.

Automation and globalist corporatism are only feasible because of overpopulation, abuse of the environment, and overuse of energy so it is never happening.

I have an associates degree in east asian feminine penis twirling so I should know.

>does anyone know how to build/operate/maintain these solar panels/wind turbines?
>fuck why is everyone getting the shits from this unfiltered water?
>wtf why aren't my avocados growing???

Don't be silly. They're obviously going to kill mostly everyone!

It's always small scale first. It would be cool to not believe military has several automations now. The question is when ai and if ai will be given capacity to evaluate military strategy, I believe it's already being done. When people find mostly ai strategies are good they might consider allow it to auto issue orders on small scale, from that to skynet you can end fucked in the long run

Have you seen what Boston Dynamics is doing with robotics? What about Google mind or whatever with AI? There are a plethora of different companies out there developing these technologies (which will almost certainly be completed within the next 10-40 years.) After it's completed, that's when they'll make their move. Either that, or they'll keep that 500 million around as their "worker bees". You better have a useful skill they need hombre.

I agree with you on this. Population levels lower, the standard of living increases dramatically.

It's almost like you're assuming things to remain exactly the same after a 99% population drop around the world.

double niggers

Ron Paul ran on 10 percent flat tax and he got pushed out for Romney.

"Automate to eliminate" is a buzzword around manufacturing ops.

>Define Eliminate

If you job can be automated kys

Best post

He didn't get pushed out so much as the media refused to even report his existence

Every time he won a poll it was either dropped by the MSM or they just outright lied about the poll.

t. I was actually here for ron paul's run

The MSM pulled a lot of the same bullshit with ron paul that they did with Trump. Which only proves to me they've been corrupt for a lot longer than just the 2016 election. They've probably been utterly corrupt since before WW2.

>How do you fully automate education

Ever heard of Duolingo? Like that.

Teachers are already basically just babysitters.

I'm like the most autistic person I know, I get angry about taxation every day. Watch this cool Molyneux video, even if you agree a goverment should exist, it's taxes should be CRYSTAL CLEAR so we know how much we pay.
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Ron Paul is 100 years too late to the scene
If you wanted to change society's perception you would need to condition them for at least a decade, using mainline channels

Isn’t that Sup Forums‘s job?

yeah but we can only do so much

It's sorta like asking what will happen when cars replace horses on the road. It's an extremely dumb question that reveals your absolute ignorance of reality and economics. It just shows how powerful institutionalized leftist brainwashing and dumbing down, is.

This

>It's almost like you're assuming things to remain exactly the same after a 99% population drop around the world.
no, I'm pointing out that this would imply the people who build and maintain your lifestyle will not be doing those jobs after a 99% pop drop
you assume the people that survive will be living a perfect life but what happens when they run out of food?
>they plant crops
what happens when they run out of fertilizer or pesticides or clean water
can any of you make those things? no
what happens when the dirt becomes dry and arid and nothing will grow?
what happens when you run out of gas? can you build/maintain/machines that can get you fuel?
>lul we use bikes why travel far?
what happens when your last bike breaks? can you melt metal and make new bikes?

you're fucking deluded

The transition to automated everything is going happen slow enough that society will have ample time to adapt as it comes. End result will most likely be a less wealthy middle class but a better off lower class as some form of universal basic income or socialism is incorporated. unless we develop a way to harvest infinite resources and have access to other earth like planets. Then everyone can be kangz and shit.

>Duolingo can be applied to everything
Dude is this your argument?
People like Ron Paul are I think, at the best time at the right place, the freedom movement around the world is rising within the population.
People are recognising that high taxation and socialism is ridicilous, people like Ron Paul help guide people, these people will have kids.
Janusz Korwin Mikke has been fighting with socialists for 50 years, he basically raised a population on those ideals and Poland is going to have sooner or later, basically right libertarians in mainstream politics.
By right libertarian I mean pic related.
Basically /thread here. IF AUTOMATION IS REAL then automation is just radical increase of capital. It will be Industrialism 2.0, the push of communism will be upon us.

Star trek dude