Will these be the political forces of Europe in a 100 years?
Western Europe is going to become increasingly brown and basically present day Italy is going to be the demographics of the new western Europe.
I don't know if we will have many countries or Empires or Unions, but I think these will be the forces in Europe.
thoughs?
Gray = Neutral
The modern European power is being transfered to the east with the west falling
Same way it transfered to the west from the south in the fall of the Roman Empire
That's all I can tell you for sure
>implying there won't be some sort of massive pan-islamic union
At least I'll die happy knowing all the kikes and degenerates will die even if it's at the hands of inbreed goatfuckers.
Let's hope all the gibs are worth something. Instead of building factories and aiming self-sufficiency your government is probably filling the pockets.
It makes me depressed that I live in London and know nothing but modern multicultural life surrounded by a bunch of chavs
I don't think things will ever get better maybe it's time to hop off this train
>maybe it's time to hop off this train
I'm literally not shooting myslef just to see the massive fuckfeast upcoming.
You *will* become a power, but you will not have any leadership.
Western dominance is not being transferred east, it's only being consolidated. The west in its current trajectory has me thinking it might look a bit like Austra-Hungary, and like HRE in the sense that it'll have some incredibly rich cities, that will be governed almost like city states.
All I know for sure is that the borders of Western Europe are going to be outdated. Either it will be replaced by a Union with new borders, or a feudal system akin to HRE. Thoughts?
Austria-Hungary in the sense of relationship between the citizens and the leadership
The current government is not my favourite - aside from being nationalistic, they are socialist christians
But they do not care about money - they live in cheaper houses than mine
Pic related is Poland's ruler's house - he could build dozens of mansions if he was a materialistic faggot
It's going to stagnate and never recover from being blacked same with burgerland
Our only hope is the chinks nuking the fuck out of us and them going through with galactic lebensraum
Good to know, let's hope you are right. If you ever have to invade Western Europe wait for the goatfuckers to finish the job though, they'll spare you lots of time.
Hell no, I don't want to associate with western cucks. Visengrad or Finland, fuck the rest.
It was so random from OP to make you green
Burgerland is doing something about it. We aren't. And we won't, until it's too late. And even at that point we won't have balls to take the needed measures.
What we are today, is what the USA would have been had Bernie Sanders won. That's how bad we have it here. Hopelessness and the only people who offer the solutions being people like Jeb Bush in the USA.
i don't get that either
also, what makes you think portugal will stand tall? Basques maybe, but portugal?
I based that on the NATO cuckoldry. Estonia would never leave the west, it's way too intertwined. They would cease to be before being able to part ways.
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Portugal won't be compromised, they'll stay ignored. No reason to go in, no reason for them to join, they'll just remain Portuguese. Similar to Ireland.
Well there we have it
You really think NATO in its current form will exist in 100 years?
Try 20 or 40 at maximum
I think as the West progresses Estonia will have to follow suit, it can't just break away, if it does you will have a thousand problems before you succeed. You are way too integrated
You have military bases, economic dependencies, your entire country is within the western system. You can't just leave because you don't like a few migrants. You might not take migrants in, but you can't leave the west, at least not as far as I can see without a major military conflict. The west relies on you too much to let you go like that.
there is one reason you're missing
it has been muslim land for hundred of years, after the dust settles in spain and fr, they simply might want to "recreate" Al-Andalus
That won't happen. It won't get to that point. Europeans are still going to be in control, Muslims will just run the streets. I think a recreation of Al-Andalus is still far away
Yeah, we're a stopgap against Russia, NATO would rather burn us down than let Russia swallow us.
But still, 100 years is a fucking long time, especially with the increasingly borderless life and technological advances. Your map is too uniform and conservative, I project a lot more balkanization, loose coalitions and conflicting goals.
This is also why I don't believe organizations like NATO will project much power by then - USA is keeping this shit together, but the empire is already crumbling. I fully believe that this is a Chinese century, as much as nation-states will matter by then anyway
I have no doubt that they would love to, but in spite of the prevalence of and sympathy for socialism in Portugal, the Portuguese remain a largely conservative and Catholic people.
Further, the Reconquista is too near to the heart of the Portuguese nation. In fact, it is the heart of the Portuguese nation. Go there: you will see monuments everywhere to Moor slayers. The flag itself - the escutcheon - is a reference to the killing of Moors at Ourique. I do not personally believe that the Portuguese share the historical amnesia afflicting the rest of Western Europe. The Portuguese know who they are and what their nation was born out of.
mine vittu ekre eunuhh.
Anyway, we should co-op with scandinavians and pray that chinese respect our freedums. amurica is dun goofed and russia is drinking themselves to death.
The backup plan is filling it with Brazillians, Chinese, Subsaharan christian Africans, African archipelagos mullatos, East Timorenses, Goan Indians. Alas we already doing it.
I said many times it won't be NATO, as the west progresses, new treaties, whatnot, Estonia is going to be bound to follow suit.
The world will lack borders and it won't be like today, that's why I was referring to the forces in the world. It's impossible to predict geographical changes, but demographically - this is how I see the power structure. Estonia is still going to be a part of the west, and the west is going to be something totally different from what it is now. The demographics are going to change.
I don't know if we'll have many countries, or one big union, but the European forces are going to look like that I believe
this lad is clueless.
as much as I hate the open border policy, she doesn't understand that being a small country you have to choose sides. and currently it's the west, they dictate what's going to happen. lad lives in his lala land and I suspect he is one autistic member of EKRE (wannabe third reich, most of the members clean your toilets).
There is no proper nationalist party here and we have 3 muslins, 2 are in jails.
>In fact, it is the heart of the Portuguese nation. Go there: you will see monuments everywhere to Moor slayers. The flag itself - the escutcheon - is a reference to the killing of Moors at Ourique. I do not personally believe that the Portuguese share the historical amnesia afflicting the rest of Western Europe.
It doesn't matter the collective memory of an ethnic people decreasing in numbers every year through emmigration and low TFR. Plus immigrants don't get assimilated to that collective history. It is the people that make and nation and a country, not some monuments.
What's with the retardation?
The west does not dictate and you follow suit for your convenience. They dictate and you follow suit because you have to. If you think the west would just let you go because you want to, you're the clueless person.
I actually agree with you, I said another retarded estonian thinks we can go alone.
then we have to choose russians, and we don't like that either.
>Same way it transfered to the west from the south in the fall of the Roman Empire
and then the west to the east in the fall of the western empire.
what happened to the eastern empire btw
My bad
It got weak and decadent and the faith which it represented was hijacked by barbarians who then sacked byzantia
Byzantia should have lead Christianity, instead what it represented was more represented by a bunch of celts. It slowly grew weak and eventually got conquered
Ei saa aru kust see ekre tuli desu? Ma ei väida et Venemaa on parem või et Eesti *peaks* Euroopast eralduma, vaid et 100 aasta pärast ei ole Lääne -Euroopa siin enam domineeriv jõud.
fear not little one!
Polish imperialism will save you
just accept winged hussars into your heart and we will commonwealth the living shit out of you
i hear you drink vodka much, you'll do just fine
Fuck you swedecuck.
We are not diverse down here. We're the most racist nation in Europe. We hate brown shit here.
pic related, we're the most non-cucked nation in europe
I'm a time traveller from the year 2109. This is what Europe looks like now.
AMA
Name every state. Please.
mine vittu töll ikka. tagasi Soome ehitusele, kusekott. kõnts.
>We hate brown shit
You are brown, retard.
Add Austria, they're still saveable and we need the Habsburgs to become monarchs of our new, glorious Empire.
This is a very eventful map. Did Croatia do something to piss off Italy?
Fratello unisciti a noi su telegram
T.me/maschat
Please. STFU swedecuck, go slurp on some somali's cock.
Fix your country. No, seriously, you're the laughing stock of the world.
Our youth only cares about soccer and has little interest for politics, let alone history. We live in a leftist, progressive shithole that would gladly open its arms to the muslim refugees IF they actually wanted to come here but since our gibs is subpar to other nation's we've been under the radar.
We've actually had a few come here but they left shortly after because we gave them next to nothing and housing in remote locations far away from cities from what I've heard kek
also pic related to what you said, its a monument commemorating our victory over the moors
Republic of Portugal
Kingdom of Spain
Republic of Ireland
United Kingdom (inc. Greater Ulster)
Third French Empire
German Empire (sometimes referred to as the Fourth Reich)
Italian Empire
Hungarian Empire
Kingdom of Greece
Kingdom of Denmark (inc. Norway and lower regions of Sweden)
Russian Empire
Kingdom of Bulgaria
Kingdom of Romania
Iceland (under Danish sphere of influence)
Scusami fratello, non ho abbastanza tempo per andare su telegram
You must have travelled back in the middle of the war. Russia would not let Moscow go willy nilly.
What's the general state of the world?
>This picture somehow proves we're white
You're not only brown you're also retarded.
secret juice of Habsburgs longevity were dynastic marriages
don't think that would work in the 'current year'
A nationalist party was elected in the 2030s and esstablished a dictatorship which continues to this day. Starting in the 2080s, they became one of the main world superpowers and adopted expansionist policies in the hope of achieving a Greater Italy stretching all the way down to Greece. However they can only do this by starting a war with Hungary, who are also a major power in Europe.
Swedes have no right to talk about who's white and who's not, period.
Enjoy being a third world country by 2030 while Italy forms a new roman empire
Get aids
I can't, spreading HIV is a crime here
Moscow is still under Russian control. Putin establishes himself as a dictator in 2026, and aims to reclaim Russian territory lost in 1918. After Putin's assassination in 2039, Russia's power slowly declines, and they lose a lot of territory to the German Empire.
Sweden btfo
You would if you could though luckily your leadership aren't as degenerate as yourself
>german empire
Are you sure Germany would succeed in conquering Poland?
Why did Germany stop at Moscow?
I'm not a faggot.
Now go choke on somali semen.
You are a secret Jew.
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Generally peaceful. There's a major war in the early 2020s (technically, you could say the war is already ongoing in 2017, it's basically an escalation of the Syrian civil war), and a lot of territory changes hands. There's a few border conflicts, but there hasn't been a major conflict since the end of WWIII in 2042.
What is America doing?
Why did you make the Shetland Islands green? It’s white as fuck, isolated and a part of Scotland.
Isn't it a part of the UK though? Does it have nationalist sentiments? The map isn't all about migrants but political power structure in Europe
It happens during the late 2020s/early 2030s. There's a surge in nationalism throughout the West, and a nationalist party (formed by far-right members of the AfD) gains power in Germany. As conditions worsen due to the war, the party turns further to the right, and eventually becomes very similar to the Nazis (although they don't call themselves Nazis). There's a kind of mass awakening in the national consciousness and esoteric German nationalist/idealist views become widespread.
stop larping, italiniggers don't speak english.
Sorry to OP for derailing this thread btw. I might make another thread later if OP doesn't want me here.
UK is lost. police and communist state, after Thatcther weeded out the football hools the country lost balls. Sad!
America is balkanized. There's a breakdown in social order after America was nuked by Russians during the early years of the war (mid-2020s, can't remember the exact date).
The military is mainly preoccupied with other matters, so keeping control at home becomes difficult. Militias become powerful and begin to overwhelm the authorities. Some on the far-right (and far-left) exploit the turmoil for political purposes, and the far-right (white nationalists) gain control of a large section of the Mid-West.
How was the USA nuked mid 2020s and Putin lived until 2039?
2020s is 10 years from now. Did you travel to an alternate universe?
Hey ivan.
I'm sorry if my nation is superior in everything compared to estonia.
Signed, wop piece of shit.
Às armas!
Because of WWIII which begins in the early 2020s (2023 is when things turn serious). The first nukes are fired by Russia in 2024, aimed at two major American cities (Chicago and New York), resulting in millions of deaths. America retaliates by firing nukes at Moscow (the Russian capital is later moved to St. Petersburg, and by the 2100s, most military resources are concentrated there instead of the Moscow region).
Putin lives into his 90s, and still has power well into the 2030s, although he become more of a symbolic figure towards his death. He's assassinated with poison disguised as medication by political opponents in 2039.
I'll start another thread (probably tomorrow) and explain this in more depth.
Sobre a terra e sobre o mar!
Good shit, just correct yourself on "Putin lived into his 90s"
He would have been 87 if he died in 2039
> The only European country with the guts to drop muslim refugees in a camp in front of a statue of a moor slayer holding a severed moor head
>Hungarian Empire
Please tell me more.
My maths sucks. You know what I meant.
I'll post pictures of the time machine in the new thread tomorrow. It'll be called something like "I'm a time traveller from 2109".
You elect Jobbik and they seize control of weaker European countries after NATO is dissolved in 2026.
Nice. German or Russian allegiance?
Cool map, can't wait for it. But why the Color Yellow? Any Relations to the HRE of old?