So who's winning the culture war these days?

I cannot quite figure out what is happening culturally, andI don't think anybody can.

it seems like progressive leftism is dying among the people, but progressive lefties have taken over media, business and academia. At the same time, it kinda seems like normies are drifting towards right-leaning centrism, and more right-wing fringe movements are growing.

So where's this all going? It seems like there is a tinge of uncertain chaos in the air. Liberals are completely losing their minds because they can sense that their ideology is dying, and I think there is a confusion in the right-wing on what to do next. At the same time, there is also a tinge of uncertainty about Trump. I get the feeling that many of the right-wing are a little unsure what to think of him at this point. Is he our guy? Is he not our guy? Will he get anything passed? These are the questions that right-wingers are asking themselves about Trump at this point.

So where is this all going? It is clear that any possibilities of a civil war are gone now. The left is completely demoralized and they have fallen into a cuckhold coma. All they can do now is cry on social media and bark at anybody within yelling distance.

Opinions?

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Welcome to reality.

The decisive answer will be in state and local elections. The liberal cuck presence, despite their impotence, is gargantuan. They own basically all forms of media. Even if their message is one of weakness, the sheer dominance will assure that some people are swayed. More importantly, they own education. Hopefully Devos can fix this but until then (if it even happens), there will always be a disproportionate amount of people who sympathize with leftist ideals despite their self-destructive ideology. The real question is: how far can right wing memes penetrate the leftist shield? And I don't mean memes as in a picture of a fucking frog, I mean the real definition of a meme, the transmission of ideas. TV and print is dying, and as long as the right wing stays dynamic and mobile, there will be hope.

What do you mean?

pretty accurate roundup. I'm surprised no TV Jew hasn't given a conservative comedian a chance for a Daily Show-like thing. With the amount of insane leftists right now and how boring the left's comedians are now it'd do great, even if they guy the got was just an average comedian

Oh, to joke like Blazing Saddles again.
At least here I can still howl with laughter at true humor.

True

I do worry about the elections. I really cannot get a sense of what is happening on the right-wing at the moment, and I cannot figure where normies/centrists are at in their heads.

From talking to normies and centrists, they've told me that they like what Trump is doing for the economy, but they do not like what he is doing culturally. A lot of bitching about tweets and stuff like that. I personally love the tweeting, but they seem to think it is "divisive" or some gay shit.

One thing I have noticed lately is that the right-wing e-celebs have taken a serious hit in quality lately. Infowars is literally reporting tabloid-tier fake news bullshit at this point. Many of the e-celebs have become boring or stupid with their content, way too many retards having a circle jerk over low hanging fruit like "SJW FREAKOUTS".

Deep down in my gut, I feel like we're not going to win. There's just too many brainwashed liberal faggots out there, and I don't think the right-wing is doing that great of a job in reaching people. But I also thought the same thing right before the election so maybe I am wrong.

ANOTHER observation:
Facebook is dead/dying. It's nothing but libtards sperging out over Trump and the rational normies have just stopped posting all together. I have no idea if that means anything, but I thought maybe that signaled they are sick of liberalism considering the "Trending" bar is nothing but leftist propaganda

The left were winning. They went slow and subtle.
But they hit a small speed bump, and began throwing a tantrum.
Now their decades of work are out in the open. They still have most of the cards and time to recover, but they are still hysterical over 2016 elections.
If they’re smart:
They reign the fuck in the lefty shits that are going 110% right now.
Or
They concede (eventually) to the idea that they need to restart their whole major plan for another couple of decades.

>They concede (eventually) to the idea that they need to restart their whole major plan for another couple of decades.

I think at this point, progressivism is not going to recover. People understand that it is nothing but hypocrites, control freaks, literal perverts, and unhinged anti-white racists in that movement.

If the left is going to recover, they need an entire intellectual re-birth, just like the right-wing had in 2015-2017 with the alt-right and then libertarianish alt-lite.

They're going to have to drop all of the stupid identity politics bullshit that normies hate, but they can stick with Bernie Sanders-tier populist socialism. They will also have to re-invent their aesthetic and get rid of the creepy-looking balding fat weirdos, soyboys, blue haired dykes ect. ect.

They are also going to have to drop the politically correct bullshit and get back to a centrist speech position. Maybe they can embrace "polite discussion" and stop with the insane word policing and all of that.

They are basically going to have to re-invent their platform and aesthetic to a more well-groomed and intellectual position with a better attitude.

Whites are losing.
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White people- particularly males- particularly rural, middle-aged males (read: formerly the most self-sufficient, conservative value living population) are dying at rates comperable to the HIV epidemic due to ODs, suicide, alcoholism. Dubbed "deaths of despair."
Meanwhile the left destroys cultural landmarks for x,y, or z reasons, and has continued to try to destroy rural and conservative communities. And they continue to joke about "fatty" and "junky" and "trailer trash" white people.
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Honestly I'm glad people are paying attention to the lil peep thing. He was a junky, and it's easy to dismiss him as a wannabe nig, tatted up and popping pills, but I urge you to look with slightly clearer sight.
FIrst of all- consider why it's so easy to dismiss and laugh at white, rural poverty (which is death). Also consider how there are no "muh programs" for these people. HURR THEY TAKE UP MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS
Yeah because their states have some of the largest federal land-holdings in history, which they're not allowed to access.
So- regarding lil peep: Here is a kid with no culture, no modern grounding. Obviously he had talent, either as a social engineer or musician or poet or something. Instead, he stumbled- he couldn't find a cultural home and tried to awkwardly align himself with hip hop and nigdom.
Instead of judging him for the outcome, which solves nothing, let's learn from our mistake- here is a case study. What could we, as a culture, have done to save him and direct him to a more fulfilling life? How could we fix what we did wrong in the past?

I'm an outcomes guy, fairly pragmatic as long as goals are accomplished. Right now we've got these goals, and we're not accomplishing them. Our behaviors are not the ones which would cause us to accomplish our goals.

Don't laugh at or dismiss white poverty, death, and cultural decay. Try to fix.

The problem is that the right wing have no good "talking heads" like the left does. Someone like Tucker Carlson is a good guy, but he doesn't really have that braindead retard appeal since you actually have to think somewhat when you watch his show. The left doesn't have this problem. The way you counter this is people working on the lowest level spreading memes (real, actual memes). The decentralized nature of the right in the US is a huge, tremendous advantage, one that we aren't taking full potential of. Leftist rags will pick it up and report on it, and that's all we need to get the message out. Let them do the work for us, everyone knows the left isn't particularly bright. Even if you think the IOTBW stuff was stupid, the incredible exposure was fantastic. That's what the right needs: smart, efficient campaigns that can use the left's stupidity against them.

Regarding his affinity for nig culture- when you're drowning, you grasp for literally anything to keep you afloat.

Nah dude they will double down, they can't control their own constituency from being retards. Just look at the how those illegals shouted down that democrat woman with "all 12 million" shit.

What I don't understand is even though everyone is slowly waking up to all the progressive liberal bullshit that's been unleashed in the past few years there are still way too many people on the fence who end up voting for leftists anyway because some tiny misdemeanor gets inflated into an international controversy by the media.

>Let's see, my choices are more transgenderism, race-baiting and islamophilia, or a guy who slapped a girl's ass 30 years ago. Well, harassing women is something I just can't support so I'll logical thing and vote for the leftist!

>Obviously he had talent, either as a social engineer or musician or poet or something. Instead, he stumbled- he couldn't find a cultural home and tried to awkwardly align himself with hip hop and nigdom.

I mean, trying to frame him as a victim seems ridiculous.

degeneracy, drug abuse, and black culture needs to be condemned. The kid was a little shit, and acted like a disrespectful little fuck head.

Yes white people are under attack, but we have also become weak. Too weak to fight back. Whites are not flooding into the universities or tech schools to get their degrees and compete with women and pajeets, they just check out and decide to die.

I am from rural poverty, so I understand how that is. Luckily i had a family member living in a major city I stayed with while I was getting enrolled in college at the city.

Many rural whites simply don't have the will-power, and they don't have any fight in them. I wake up every day wanting to burn the hole fucking thing down, and this involves me gaining a position of power, which is what I dedicate every day to.

My friends back home don't do this. They just want to work a shitty job, smoke weed, and watch time fly by. They don't want to fight or put themselves in hard/stressful situations. Many of the ones who do leave the rural poverty and go to college are liberal, so they're as good as nothing as well.

>andI don't think anybody can
people have, i think you just don't like what they've concluded.
the two party system is the greatest two-man con ever created. at this point it's time to admit that trump isn't disrupting the pattern, he's just shoving the pendulum even harder. when it swings back to the left, it's going to swing HARD.

blog it faggot no one cares

OP this thread is fucking retarded. go back to

White's who have been abused by the Marxist control have been ready for civil war for nearly a decade now, so none of us give a fuck anymore. We've hit rock bottom, found Jesus and are not intimidated by death anymore. So, one of two things are going to happen. Either the liberal fucktards and their handlers are going to get with the program or they are going to pull some stupid shit like gun control and get btfo to hell where they belong.

They'll double down until the money runs out and they can't anymore.

Sort of what happened with republicans after the Bush-era. The party was just fucking dead. It had nothing going for it. No style, no platform, no ideas, just nothing. But just like that, we re-birthed ourselves.

This will happen to the left once progressivism runs out of money.

>don't talk about a game plan or try to look at the current situation objectively
>just keep leaving 5 word comments and posting nigger memes back and forth

go back lto eftypol

we really need a civil war for the culling, and to establish/reestablish boundaries.
>it doesn't make a fuck who you are. when someone marches into your space, gets into your face, and tells you how it is; there is blow back.
>the easiest example is someone coming into your home, invited or otherwise and violating you at a minimum; sometimes worse

>reddit.com/r/ComradeGarrison/
What culture war?

>people have, i think you just don't like what they've concluded.
>the two party system is the greatest two-man con ever created. at this point it's time to admit that trump isn't disrupting the pattern, he's just shoving the pendulum even harder. when it swings back to the left, it's going to swing HARD.

This is something I have been wondering lately. If Trump can't change anything, then nobody can. The system is just a fucking scam and there's no point.

Steve Bannon said it is going to require 20 years of electing people who aren't bought off by donors in order to "drain the swamp", but I mean, holy shit 20 years? We don't have 20 years. The system is obviously fucked.

Lefties still have too much control for that to happen.
If they couldn't stop the show they'd go after the network hosting it. If they couldn't stop the network they'd go after the advertising money. Some of these products are gonna cave to pressure and stop supporting the shows.
The whole system needs to be torn apart and put back together. It shouldn't be that a small vocal group can prevent all right wing ideas from being displayed. Like op said, not as many people care as they think they do.

kek

The culture war with the globalists, the progressive left, and the system in general.

Left is losing ground amongst the masses and people are becoming more skeptical of the institutions they do control. Right wing ideals are especially popular with edgy youth who are disconnected from the Bush years and christfags of the 90s so they don't associate conservatism with that. They've always known the hyper pc leftist power structure their whole lives and rebel against it, unlike millennials who experienced the bush etc shit. I think there will be a blowback in the coming years.

The wildcard might be economics. If they can't figure out things like health care and student loan bubbles that are holding people back, there might be a sympathy towards socialism.

Socialism with right wing social ideals perhaps? Socialism with some nationalism thrown in...?

this
we need braindead one sided right wing comedy and talk shows

The general populace is growing further right, but the ones in charge of media/entertainment/some politics (who are 90% radical lefties) are losing their minds.

This is what the left deserves when they instituted a system that only made their politics dominate within the last decade. Instead of having a normal and balanced media that didn't break its mind within a single election, we have a media that is literally delusional and completely-out-of-touch with the masses.

It'll most likely end with the rise of new more-balanced institutions and the firing of super progressives in the bigger ones. Small liberal orgs like The Young Turks will become completely irrelevant. Hopefully next time we'll realize that having complete partisan hacks running supposedly "balanced" media is not a good idea.

Also, the whole left-right paradigm is completely shifted right now. Liberals aren't JUST the minority party - they are the minority party whose platform is for the destruction of European culture. They want to literally destroy themselves. The "right" is against that ethnic cleansing. It is NOT the worker's rights/business rights paradigm it used to be circa 1860's onward.

The extremist left will cry for more attention in less intelligent ways as they are increasingly deprived, and the rest of the world will realize what retards they actually were by observing it. We're in a weird grey area, but it's headed towards a nudge left of center.

>literally posting links to reddit
NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE

>shilling your own subreddit

neck yourself

he was saying that antifa can't meme

relax autismo

Also most of the time these allegations are false

That's one reason why I feel like we shouldn't give up on Trump at the moment. If Trump doesn't keep pushing to "drain the swamp", it seems like no one will.

>Liberals aren't JUST the minority party - they are the minority party whose platform is for the destruction of European culture

Most normies don't really acknowledge this though. Sup Forumsocks and alt-righters look for dog-whistles, but normies and centrists aren't really seeing this.

>Liberals are completely losing their minds because they can sense that their ideology is dying, and I think there is a confusion in the right-wing on what to do next.

I don't think there's really confusion on the right. For years they've largely stayed feeling much the same, except now they feel comfortable being open about their beliefs since there's been an awakening that people on the left are often just assholes and doing the 'polite' thing of just not bringing up anything political was being interpreted as agreeing with the left.

What the left is really in dire straits over is that they're now realizing many people disagree with them. Normally they'd only check out their own media and think that was a reflection of all society. They're slowly coming to realize that the things they considered fact are not agreed to by everyone as being fact. That disturbs them.

Consider what the usual 'conservatives' that appear on TV would typically do. They'd pop on, say some bullshit about how they disagree ideologically with the left on some things like taxes or immigration, which would cause some arguments over how far to go with such things or what the value was, but there wasn't a presence of disagreements over facts used for the left's basic premises.

Now you have more on the right, at least online, that will won't even pretend the left's facts are even fact. Which the left could ignore in the recent past, but now they suddenly have this realization that those people they thought were in a minority online are actually making up at least half the country.

>actually good thread
>reee why are they making good discussions i wanna shitpost

I guess

It almost feels futile at this point, but if Trump shows that he is fighting to drain it, maybe people will continue to rally around him.

At the moment, I just don't see much effort. I guess the tax reform is good...but how much can you really do to drain the swamp when every congress member is a scum bag?

Maybe the 2018 election will change it, but I have a bad feeling about that

The most valuable asset the alt right could use is art. Make art with subversive messages to influence pop culture. The left did this and this is how they won the culture war, use the internet to get past mainstream censorship to distribute your material, has worked for people like Sam Hyde. The alt right really needs creative innovative art in order to effectively spread it's message. That's how you win a culture war, through culture. Art isn't inherently leftist, remember Wagner or how Clint Eastwood movies were the norm once upon a time.

You have ideas and all, but you don't have good art. If the art is good enough, people won't care about the political beliefs. MDE in their prime were explicitly right wing but had a large fanbase across the spectrum, because it was innovative genuinely well done art like in College Cunts.

The problem is a lot of the art that does comes out of the alt right is either just memes, poorly done and derivative (fashwave), low budget and just loaded with in jokes no one outside of Sup Forums would get (murdoch murdoch), or based in video game autistic culture that has no mainstream appeal or appeal amongst high brow "intellectual" cultured types (kekistan related shit). It's not going to appeal to the tastemaker types.

In order to truly shift the culture, you have to make innovative art. Make good music with a right wing message, but focus on making the music good. Focus on the art first, instead of focusing on hammering the message home. Make it subtle, and make the art good on it's own merit. That's what separates things like MDE, Burzum, and Death in June from the other things. Those got popular because they had appeal beyond ideology. Don't disparage the arts because the unis are pozzed and the left won control of it, it's a very valuable tool that the alt right needs to better utilize in order to become the true counter-culture.

Adding onto this.

Triumph of the Will and Birth of a Nation. Literal Nazi and KKK propaganda (for real!). Yet they undoubtedly innovated and changed the field of film forever, and even the most diehard lefty fucks will admit their great movies. Those movies also were used to influence people, and they were so good that they overcame the repulsion people are conditioned to have at attached ideology that people would watch it and praise it.

>What the left is really in dire straits over is that they're now realizing many people disagree with them. Normally they'd only check out their own media and think that was a reflection of all society. They're slowly coming to realize that the things they considered fact are not agreed to by everyone as being fact. That disturbs them.

I guess this is true, but I have a hard time imagining people sperging out this badly just because people don't agree with them, but then again, we aren't leftist so maybe that seems foreign to us.

I still can't imagine what is going to happen to all of these psychotic libshits. Are they ever going to calm down? Will they ever actually investigate the counter-arguments to their worldview? I can't imagine these people melting into any kind of mindset that will actually let them peacefully co-exist with right-wingers

I agree. But the numbers are growing as their innate hate of our society becomes more and more clear. I bet IOTBW woke a lot of normies up..

Like instead.of a piece called "Piss Christ" someone should do a "Piss Mohammed" or "Piss Obama"?

The long march through the institutions doesn't end with ideological control, but with destroyed institutions.

Holy fuck, is this an actually decent Sup Forums post?
I was starting to think they had gone extinct.

This is true

I am a classical composer and I have one EP out that was best-selling on bandcamp for a few weeks. I am recording a new classical EP at the moment too.

I don't know how to make it "right-wing propaganda" besides using some fashy or roman statue-looking artwork. It doesn't have lyrics so yeah

But besides that, I wish more right-wingers would start making music, movies, paintings, short-films, shit like that. I wish we could network some how, but maybe there really aren't that many right-wing artists.

Sure you could, but I was thinking more originality than derivative ideas. Film and music are good mediums for this.

>I agree. But the numbers are growing as their innate hate of our society becomes more and more clear. I bet IOTBW woke a lot of normies up..

I really doubt IOTBW woke up normies. Maybe a few, and maybe it woke them up a little, but normies seem extremely naive.

I bet many of them though "Yeah only a few people really hate white people, like SJW extremists" and "haha wow yeah of course that sort of prank is going to make a few people mad, oh well".

I mean, I hope it woke some normies up, but normies are fucking retarded.

I make music as a hobby but I'm not as good as I'd like to be. I've written some songs and even a few lyrics but I don't think I have the voice to really pull it off.

Sup Forums has some intelligent and creative minds on it, there are a lot of village idiots and retards and meme posters, but you honestly get a lot of insight reading these boards long enough and philosophical/sociological discussion totally uncensored and unfiltered so I know there are some legitimate geniuses on here. The meme warfare thing is one example of how effective Sup Forums is at create propaganda. The same kind of creative process could apply to something bigger than social engineering through image macros.

I am a shit tier writer but I try. If there was some right wing artistic collaboration community I'd be into it.

We just need to fucking physically mobilize.

WE NEED to be physically gathering somewhere and working on things. It's good to be de-centralized, but it would also be good if some of us could meet and begin actually working on projects.

At risk of being a nazi.

It looks to me like the Jews are still a few steps ahead of us.
Look at most of these right-wing talking heads that have popped up recently. Lots of Jews.
It's like they are throwing some jews out there who are just right wing enough to not look like liberals.
But they aren't right wing enough to look out for our interests on the most important issues.

>I guess this is true, but I have a hard time imagining people sperging out this badly just because people don't agree with them, but then again, we aren't leftist so maybe that seems foreign to us.

I've followed liberals online for years, known plenty in my own life, plus have overheard plenty conversations between liberals before and after their right wing friend leaves (driving for Uber can be eye opening).

It's shit about disagreeing on what is fact that really does them in. It's why they love "fact checking" sites so much, they don't consider that these are just editorial sites that include a heavy dose of sophistry to misrepresent arguments that they can then refute.

And most horrifying thing I've learned, is that the open derision they often have when talking to right wingers, is them holding back. The openly combative tones and all the bullshit, is them being polite.

I still remember soon after the election driving three people to their homes, one guy being the obvious right winger that was politely going "Trump seemed to appeal to people for his economic policies", to which the other two got fairly hostile about going "he never even had an economic policies" and such bullshit, then after I drop the right winger off the two left go "Trump just appealed to a bunch of racists and Pence is supportive of electrocuting gays". It was like a switch was flipped as they started into every insane theory about Trump as they began being honest about their views, whereas when with the right winger they were being polite by acting like he was an idiot for thinking Trump could appeal to anyone.

Liberals have been this fucking nuts for years, we're just seeing it more in the open now. I suppose part of it is both sides now feel they need to be more open about their views.

Yep, and homosexuals.

A lot of homosexuals and jews. It's really bizarre. The Jews and the powers that be DO NOT want division in society between faggots and homos. They want those people to be accepted and in the work force.

Ok. Then "Shit Mohammed" or Shit Obama?

Right wingers think things are much more complicated than they are.

The simple fact is - the right, meaning nationalists and conservatives, CAN NOT win the culture war.

Films, music, art, things like that, will never conform to conservative and traditionalist ideas, because that's the exact opposite of what they stand for. New ideas, new concepts, change, reaching out to everyone - that's the whole point.

This is true in every country in the world. Look at the nations that are controlled by hard line right wing governments. These countries are shit. Poland and Hungary are meme countries that americans jerk off to, but anyone who lives in this part of the world knows better. Poland would collapse economically in 6 months without EU money. Hungary is where people from Croatia used to go to buy cheap jeans and sausages.

My point is, politics and governments change, but liberal and progressive ideas can not be stopped.

That being said, of course there are some that are retarded, but in general, the world is progressing and developing, and it's never going to go back.

We are

The culture war has barely started. IOTBW is just a piece of paper and draining the swamp just opens doors. We have to fill all the voids with something better for our kids and grandkids. We need writers and artists and good philosophers in the culture war and we need lots and lots of them. The left is broken sure but we have to drag everyone back to sanity.

We can't just wish for a better future, we have to provide one that works. Maybe not Sup Forums but you politicians, business owners, creators, actors, celebs, story tellers, journalists and everyday traditional people who lurk and want to make a difference. The most important part of war is giving the survivors something better than they had and now is the time to start thinking about it.

Even the meekest of us can get into a comment section and rather than fight we can start being constructive and communicate to them that the sooner they give up, the sooner they will FEEL better. Sup Forums is the smartest and craftiest group of minds the world has ever seen and the future is ours but its all going to be wasted if we all sit around waiting for plebs to "figure it out" and lose that future for everyone.

I don't want a TLDR for the cheap seats. We don't want people in cheap seats shaping our culture and future. We need to pull everything back on our terms.

>Films, music, art, things like that, will never conform to conservative and traditionalist ideas, because that's the exact opposite of what they stand for. New ideas, new concepts, change, reaching out to everyone - that's the whole point.

Japan is right-wing and they have fantastic art and classical music with a great economy.

So this argument doesn't really hold up.

This is what I have noticed living in Chicago too

Liberals won't even contend a few points to the right-wing. They won't even say "Oh well they are somewhat correct on this issue" or "They have a valid criticism here"

They're just like "RIGHT WINGERS ARE RETARDED HILLBILLIES AND I AM SMART CUZ I LIVE IN A CITY 20 MINUTES FROM A UNIVERSITY!!!!!! REEEEE"

Nice speech, but American Cinema has conformed to the flavor of the week since day 1. As has the music industry.
The "Stand for" nothing.

There is an ideological vacuum that the election has ripped into American consciousness. POL is filling it. No AI, no algorithm, no censorship, no counsel will be able to stamp out every instance of pol think. Pol will end up being always right.

The mainstream of the right will continue doing what they're good at, which is surrendering to the left at the slightest sign of resistance and thinking to themselves, "it's only this once, slippery slope is just a fallacy". The mainstream of the left will continue to do what they're good at, which is provoking moral hysteria and denying reality. The only way there is going to be a significant shift in power is through huge out of the blue revelations like the fact that the Hollywood propaganda wing of the left is a hive of sexual abuse.

Any guess like this that the right is gaining and left is losing, or vice versa, is inevitably wrong in some way. People may seem like they're becoming more right-leaning, but that's because people are herd-animals for the most part, and they see the President and Congress is, and that liberalism is becoming sort of uncool. People you think are becoming right-leaning though, when you press them, still defend many left things, racial harmony, gender gap, gay marriage, etc, etc. Its illusory.

The "culture wars" are largely superfluous media inventions, staged dramas that keep us passively glued to a screen.

The only real "culture" left is the sound and fury of hyper-individualism. Nobody does anything but have isolated screen-based experiences with other people, most of which are designed for self promotion. No tribal units or religion or struggle to survive or even kids these days. Human beings without a cause greater than themselves to live/die for literally go insane. Society falls apart.

So for the mainstream it will continue to be the endless, inevitable decline into self-indulgent hedonism. Yes there will be "culture wars" but these are just the blusterings of opposing camps who are locked in the same system.

You can unplug, ignore this stuff and focus 100% of your time and energy on personal development (physical, psychological, spiritual).

You can see how much they don't want us to do the things we obviously have to do. Clear as day.

Of course there will be people who are good artists, but I'm talking about global culture, and Japan has brought nothing worth mentioning, except maybe a few movies and fucking anime.

Mohammed would be edgier and always relevant. Do that. Obama is old news.

Technological progress can't be stopped barring a catastrophic event, but you can slow down certain social developments. I used to be considered pretty liberal, probably would have been in the 90s, hell I'm not even that hardline of a right winger. The left continues to move further to the left while others stay in the center, and former liberals are now called center-right or even far right. The left have had a stranglehold on the culture for a long time, starting in at least the 60s for America, so ironically it'd be more of a new change and concept to create right wing themed art.

Also the art world was far more conservative at one time, there just has been less and less conservative art made over time, partially because of who controls the culture war. I mean you had bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd waving the Confederate flag that would get called le rayciss for that today. Leave it to Beaver and Gunsmoke were the popular tv shows of the 50s. Movies like Dirty Harry and books like Starship Troopers were popular. It wasn't that long ago.


That'd be dope, I have no idea how that would work though considering geographical distribution.

American cinema and music industry are not the only source of film and music in the world.

>colbert
the ultimate cuck: imagine having your entire career and life revolve around another grown man

The most influential of the previous century, which is what you based your argument on.

And then they accuse conservatives being the same way, but, maybe outside of sharing a concerned look after listening to a screeching harpy, I've never really seen conservatives do that.

Liberals literally think conservatives are just stupid and evil, meanwhile in reality it's the exact opposite.

who is winning the culture war you ask

Well i work for a grocery store as an assistant costumer survive manager. After we close the store we level the shelves for the opening crew it takes about an hour. Most of the teenage kids during this time make a ton of jew jokes its hilarious i didnt know other people despised them as much as i did and i dont even have to add anything to the conversation to get some good oven jokes rolling.

They're actually one of the leaders in today's classical music

They have conposers like ryuichi sakamoto and many others

Not everything is the US. You guys need to broaden your perspective.

The culture war is essentially over. People have picked their sides, lines are drawn and the couch potato masses sit on the sidelines waiting for the fanatics to duke it out. Out political differences cannot be reconciled. Neither side is willing to cede an inch. Balkanization is the best we can hope for, peaceful or otherwise.

I understand that, but I'm mainly talking about America's political/cultural climate personally. Europe would be harder to influence I'm sure.

>niggers crying, begging Trump to stop
What are they overreacting to now?

Its unnecessary complication. We have to fight the American fight and win it, then we can worry about everyone else. That user isn't going to lift a finger to change anything for his people but he's going to make 20 posts telling us to stop doing things for ourselves. He would be better off joining the cause or butting out.

>The most influential of the previous century, which is what you based your argument on.

Both of those things aren't really true.

I'm talking about art in general. And yeah, american cinema was very influential, but so was european and russian cinema.

The same thing with music. Yeah, rock and roll started in the US, but The Beatles and Led Zeppelin were British. Electronic music developed in Germany.

I'm talking about global culture.

This is true, the brainwashing is strong. And if you come up with facts, they call you a conspiracy theorist or tinfoil hat. They can't think what they were told is lies because then their world will fall apart. It makes them scared. They are too comfortable to open their eyes. I mention the Russian Revolution and the Bolsheviks and how we aren't taught about it in schools and my friend just pushes it away. I linked him the freedman speech. I can only hope it opens his eyes.

For anyone who is interested.

youtu.be/XQ_qRz_lsC4

>So where's this all going?
Secession, balkanization and/or civil war, but it'll take it's sweet fucking time getting here.

this

>Vangelis plays softly in the background.

Create things. The left won the culture war because they created music, television shows, films, etc.
If you want to gain ground, subvert by selling your creations.

Whoa, I got the trips of truth!

Also should mention that another one of my friends thinks I'm a racist for sharing "antisemitism" in our group chat.

>but progressive lefties have taken over media, business and academia

Congratulation, you now have exactly what we had in the sixties before the Soviets were invited to help struggling socialist movement to save us from capitalism. Only solace is that all of these shills ended up dead or in working camps.
The difference is, you don't have commies, you have corporations, because progressivism is exclusively corporatist movement.
Welcome to the Cyberpunk, but without the neat tech toys.

If you have to ask, it ain't you.

This really sounds like Mr. Freedman's description of World War 2. Germany deciding whether it was going to stay Christian or become communist. They decided to fight and unfortunately lost.

>That user isn't going to lift a finger to change anything

Why would I want to change anything?

Nationalism is going to tear itself apart pretty soon - it's already happening here in the EU, populism is over. The new conservative revolution is still strong in some parts of the society, but it will never be a movement that the majority of people will support.

>every sexual interaction with females is basically rape and will get you publicly crucified on the basis of a woman's word

These elections are where soros is spending all those billions now... More of a grass roots disruption. And OP the media has been lib since newspapers what do u mean took it over??

Cool. Worry about yourself. We are gonna all go watch Rocky movies.

>Worry about yourself

Isn't that what you ameicans always say?

We don't say it enough anymore.

And they all had to conform to the norms of the day. The Beatles had to get haircuts and be a boy band to make it.

I suspect eventually a hardliner from one side or the other will be elected and push for something that will make the other side break. Then the violence will start.

There are some parallels between the 2 situations. Though Germany's situation was certainly more dire than the USA's at the moment. The problem with the USA is the demographic landslide. Mexicans are essentially occupying California, which is an important state in terms of trade. They think they'll take over if we Balkanize but it could easily end up causing a war between the USA and Mexico. California won't be given up without a fight.

All these cowards engaging in slow burn invasions; Mexicans and Muslims. Makes me sick.

I think you underestimate the way people will react when they become foreigners in their own land. Europe was simply riding the populist wave win from the USA. But once it is completely homegrown due to the circumstance arising currently with the slow burn Islamic invasion, you may find they have a lot more fervor and common support. USA didn't get this way until it hit 60% white, something to think about anyway.

The Left is, easily.

We're at the point where even slightly criticizing "diversity" and going against whatever is being said on Twitter is grounds for being removed from society.

It's insane.

There is no such thing as "global culture" you stupid fucking croat.

There are only local cultures because cultures stem from the fucking people and there is no "global" humanity. You are way too deep in the globalism bluepill.