The great debate

The great debate

Shiki. Hands down. I'd rather fuck Shiki.

Shirou 100%

Nasu said it's a tie, but admit it, he just said it's a tie because he doesn't want salt from either fanbases. The true answer is Shirou, UBW will overwhelm Shiki, unless Shiki can kill Reality Marbles.

Shirou - best character
Shiki - best power, best in bed

But Shirou can't use UBW at will. It required a massive powerup from another character in order for him to use it once, and even then he could only sustain it for a few minutes

Aren't we talking about full power shirou vs full power shiki here?

But can Shiki kill servants?

Full power HF Shirou might be stronger.

But shiki killed reality marble. Twice

The REAL great debate.

>Shirou
>Not best in bed

you take that back, faggot
pic related

If someone had such beautiful eyes, I'd suck their soul through their dick (no homo)

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Man, that PS1 dragon still cracks me up.

UBW swordspam>magic eyes
You can only cut so many projectiles flying at you

Shirou has the better memes.

>Nasu said it's a tie
Nasu said Shiki would win. Stop reading bad translations retard.

>UBW will overwhelm Shiki, unless Shiki can kill Reality Marble
Shiki has killed reality marbles with no problem, and much better ones than UBW which lasts like 2 minutes before it goes down which means Shiki can understand it's death easily.

Using UBW would only drain Shirou's mana and render him helpless

>Full power HF Shirou might be stronger.

If you're going to choose versions that have powers they wouldn't have otherwise then vampire Shiki is stronger.

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>unless Shiki can kill Reality Marbles
Shiki stopped a rampaging Arc's reality marble just by stabbing the ground iirc. Shiki would destroy Shirou in seconds, 17 clean cuts.

You forgot to say Ryougi Shiki

Ryougi Shiki is irrelevant

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Your irrelevant

Can we all agree that Shiki>Shiki?

Shiki=SHIKI>SHIKI>Shiki

Did Shiki SAVE EVERYONE?
Yeah. That's what I thought.

what debate?
two self-insert garbage piece of trash only could be loved by subhuman. both are shitty porn game nothing more nothing less.

Did Shirou save ANYONE?
Yeah. That's what I thought

(you)

Truly the best boy with the best moveset.

crazy bitch

You mean your'e?

Shiki just enjoys life though

Shirou literally saved everyone at the cost of his life, part of the issue is he literally became a hero through sacrificing everything he was which is what was required in modern nights, versus the heroes of old being made into them

Did Shirou RAPE EVERYONE?
Yeah. That's what I thought.
Manjew is not Shirou.

Yeah, but Shiki's brain would explode from destroying all those Noble Phantasms

And Shiki saved everyone by killing vampires WITHOUT killing himself and being happy that he gets to fuck chicks and just hand around with his friends.

Shiki>Shitrou

>Yeah, but Shiki's brain would explode from destroying all those Noble Phantasms
Shiki has killed Arcueid, his brain would be fine.

You should worry about Shirou overcharging his circuits

>Yeah, but Shiki's brain would not* explode from destroying all those Noble Phantasm Copies*
Did you read both VNs?

>faker NPs that have expiration date

HA

Neither of those mongrels

>everyone
Also, Revy is best girl.

>Beaten by a red headed Japanese highschooler
King of Jobbers

>eaten by a highschool girl

Shiki attempts to kill Rhongomyniad.

What happens?

Does the Age of Man collapse back into the God times?

>check that retard out

I had to look up what this was, is it from Grand Order?
>It has been said that, in the unlikely event that this is undone, reality will be torn off from the World.
I doubt Shiki would be able to perceive lines on it, or at least his brain would break trying to look at it.

He killed Gaia.

Is there a character that could possibly EVEN TOUCH Shiki? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Nanaya Shiki who has subconscious knowledge of Nanaya clan assassination arts passed down through generations. Hell, I'm not even talking about Satsujinki aka "Shikiller", who can move so fast dead apostles don't even realize he was there until it was too late.

I'm talking about a Tohno Shiki who has spent most of life training in order to surpass his true father Nanaya Kiri and thus can move on the level of a servant and can understand the concept of death for anything without risk to his body, with his peak human abilities pushed into pure superhuman due to magical reinforcement from Ciel someone with world class magic circuits and centuries of magecraft accumulated by ROA, with his abilities pushed up ANOTHER level due to a combination of Akiha giving him more of her life force (something possible due to the enhanced power the remains of ROA in her psyche give her), having raped the maids for 24 hours in order to be enhanced by their Synchronize power and lastly he was turned into a dead apostle that can resist the need for blood due to Arcueid and her Marble Phantasm. In addition to his favorite knife named "Nanaya" that is of incredible quality despite appearing to be a standard switchblade, he's also equipped with the Seventh Scripture pilebunker and the Etherlite, weapons he has mastered. Lastly Before the fight Len stole the opponents mana in a dream and the fight is taking placing in Satsuki's Reality Marble Depletion Garden, which together ensures that any opponent will have all of their energy drained.

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Worse
>eaten by a highschool girl's vaginal worms

It was so much better when it was just Rin indulging in her girl-on-girl fantasies.

What if Shirou was a girl?

Gilgamesh's plan was best for humanity. Stopping him was truly wrong

All the bad endings would end in the same manner as Monmusu Quest.

She'd be dense enough to collapse time.

That's kawaii as shit.

Reminder that anyone who thinks that the Fate VN is legitimately well written is actually retarded and deserves to be ridiculed.

Neither.

Arthur is better than both.

Rhongomyniad isn't a copy, retard, and it has a higher mystery level than Arc. Arc has B or D. I forgot but it wasn't so impressive. That's why Shiki could knife her. Higher the mystery = bigger brain aneurysm.

He's fucked against Heroic Spirits because, unless they are modern, their mystery levels literally make his brain leak. Shirou's unable to replicate that shit with his copies though.

Better than tsukishit at least.

Marginally, but utter trash writing nonetheless

>Shiki - best power, best in bed
>dragon
>jackhammer
nigger please

Well, if we are talking about both at their max then Shiki wins. UBW wont matter if Shirou tries to fight Shiki head on which he would. All it takes it hitting Shirou once, not even a direct hit to stab a line. Shirou has always been a sloppy fighter and Shiki (Satsujinki) is practically an assassin.

>shirou
>good character
Opinion discarded

>Arc's Reality Marble

Read motherfucker! She doesn't have a Reality Marble. Shiki just severed her connection to Gaia, which means it stopped supplying her power making her theoretically beatable.

his plan means killing you useless neckbeards

It has a great concept. In hands of better writers like Narita, it's readable. Nothing can make Tsukihime readable because the concept is trash.

I don't see Shirou and someone who stopped being relevant with his dead franchise.

>b-but muh remake

Nasu literally is exploring Type Moon Nu universe in Fate.

Could Shirou survive the Black Mesa incident?

Exactly. Gil was the true hero

Who are you quoting?

What Servant would Gordon Freeman be?

Shiki has a bigger dick

Miyuverse Shirou saved his sister

He didn't save his waifu though.

Its okay, Miyu is the true end game route and he can't be judged for marrying a grail.

Miyu's already spoken for, and Miyuverse Shirou is not a Lolicon. If anything, he prefers women with big titties given his current record.

Did you read the manga or are you making up retarded lolicon fantasies? Miyuverse Shirou isn't a pedophile. He loves Miyu as his little sister and was in love with Sakura, so much he had a marriage fantasy when she simply asked him to run away. Kids don't get his sword up. Or any other woman as he's indifferent to the girls in his household. He's following the route of brokenhearted anti hero.

I'm sorry, what debate? Is there some doubt Shiki is not the superior one in every way?

According to the last poll, Ryougi is 2nd right after Saber in popularity, Shirou is somewhere in the top 20 and me don't see Tohno.

Pffft. What do they know?

Best MC coming through.

That Ryougi > Tohno

Full power Shirou is a counter guardian. Full power shiki is shiki. It wouldn't be fair.

>liking girls
literal faggots

There's one place where Shirou has a clear edge, and that is his Harem isn't a fractious bunch of girls who would be constantly fighting and bitching with one another over their man. Shirou's lucky enough that at least half his harem is just as into each other as they are into Shirou, so there wouldn't be as much infighting as Shiki would have to deal with as they would be just as happy fucking each other as fucking their man.

Beserker, with a crowbar as his NP

She'd be a crazy gacha addict.

And a psycho lesbian. Don't forget that.

Can someone explain me their power?
I just see Elsword vs Kirito

I like goofy Shirou more. Soujuurou and Ryougi Shiki are best Type Moon main characters though

Ryougi would win against both of them because of void and she's best Type Moon girl. Her MEODP are too good.

Out of the two I'd say Shirou because he has Avalon and UBW. Now if they both have a fight including both of their harems I don't think there's a way Shirou's team would win, Arc is too strong.

If we talking about single fight and ignore in what state they're after battle then I say it's
Ciel route Shiki>hf shirou>Arc route Shiki>ubw shirou>far side shiki>Fate shirou

Shiki is more fuckable.

Eh no, in AA he killed part of Dusk's RM to enter it to face her.

I like him better with black hair

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