White America: The Alt-right is Alright!

You need to really dissect this ABC News poll to see what’s going on. To begin, it finds that 10% of Americans support the alt-right. Let’s assume the only Americans supporting the alt-right are white. Since whites are 61% of the population (Census Bureau), that means 16.4% of White Americans support the alt-right. But wait! The poll oversampled Democrats relative to Republicans at a rate of 3:2. If we assume no Dems support the alt-right, then in an equally-sampled poll, support for the alt-right would be 25% higher. Thus 12.5% of Americans—and, by extension, 20.5% of white Americans—support the alt-right. For simplicity’s sake, however, let’s stick with the 10% figure for now.

A further 41% of Americans say they have “no opinion.” Some of these are likely people who don’t know what the alt-right is, some portion of whom would support the alt-right upon learning more. The rest are those who understand the alt-right but nonetheless stated they had no opinion. Again, it’s safe to assume a portion do in fact support the alt-right but are reluctant to admit it to pollsters, much in the way the Brexit or Trump election polls underestimated the prevalence of beliefs that society ostracizes people for.

So, can we guess at how much of that 41% could be said to support the alt-right? Well, on the question of whether holding “neo-Nazi” views is acceptable, 9% of Americans said Yes and 8% said “No opinion.” Let’s be honest: if asked about neo-Nazism, and you respond, “no opinion,” then you probably sympathize with the alt-right. If so, then at least 17% of Americans support the alt-right, which translates to 28% of White Americans.

That still leaves 31% of Americans who say neo-nazism is unacceptable but say “no opinion” on the alt-right. Well, if just one-third of these people support the alt-right, then 27.33% of Americans support it, which translates to 44.8% of White Americans.

Once you factor in the oversampling discussed above, well…

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Here’s a link to the ABC poll:
> archive.is/ywcoL

Note also that the polling was heaving on Independents & Democrats: Independents (44%), Democrats (33%), Republicans (22%). Because Independents are probably less likely than Republicans to support the alt-right, but Republicans greatly outweigh the number of Independents in the population, the real support for the alt-right is probably a good deal higher than I’ve already discussed.

Massive if true

Could tens of millions of people be, dare I say, /ourguys/?

time for a new political party

Ethnostate when?

Well this is an unexpected whitepill for my Sunday night

the no opinion percentage is more telling

>silent majority

I come bring family

Thanks for doing the math. this is our future. we will get more whites on our side in time and then the fun can start

I agree completely. I have a hard time believing that anyone who knows what the alt-right is would say they have "no opinion" on it unless they actually kinda supported it.

i wouldnt take your children here if I were you but suit yourself

THE TREE OF LIBERTY MUST BE REFRESHED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS!
RACE WAR FUCKING WHEN?!

Yeah for sure. You can definitely get some different numbers depending on which assumptions you use, but whichever way you cut it, I think it's hard to say that anything less than one-third of white Americans support the alt-right. And that's on the more conservative side of estimates. I think the real number is much higher.

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Tired of seeing the term "alt-right". Poor attempt at controlled opposition.

I think everyone sampled has no clue what the alt right is

90% of the 10% thinks it means alt lite/civic nationalism

10% of the 10% knows it means white ethnostate gas the entire country, racebikes now

alt-right is a meme

Yes and no. It was definitely thrust upon us, rather than something organically decided upon. But you do have to acknowledge, if the term "alt-right" didn't exist, then the media would just be calling it "neo-nazism" (like they used to). That carries too much baggage for most normies.

I don't have a strong opinion on the term either way, but I don't think it's as grim as some people make it out to be

I certainly hope so because it feels hopeless at times with our voice being stifled at every turn

its a good thing user. the more disenfranchised whites become the harsher the retaliation will be.

I thought of that, but this poll was taken in the immediate aftermath of the Charlottesville rally and the James Fields incident. There's no doubt that media frequently referred to C-ville as an "alt-right gathering" during that period, and there's no doubt that the poll was conducted in response to the rally.

Assuming that's the case, people should generally know that the alt-right doesn't mean civic nationalism. They would have seen things like the C-ville torch march in the media, which would obviously indicate to them that we weren't dealing with basic civic nationalism.

I mean...does it really surprise you? Donald Trump's campaign was essentially one gigantic dog whistle to white America, and people at it up. If you ask me, the viewpoints of the alt-right are more or less the viewpoints that Trump was dogwhistling, but that Trump couldn't directly state himself.

>90% of the 10% thinks it means alt lite/civic nationalism
With media depicting it as the secong comming of hither?

Thanks for the white pill user.

Among young white males, we may even be up to 50%, and among Gen Zyklon it's probably even higher. Trump still won 51% of white female vote even though she had the female card and Trump was the "evil misogynist".

Things are looking good for us, our support is only continuing to increase.

guess what, I'm full 1488 but because of my profession I would never admit it. if pollsters ever call me I always answer in the most vanilla moderate liberal way. only people with nothing to lose or larping cianiggers are open about it

bump.

>one gigantic dog whistle to white America, and people at it up
most people didn't vote for Trump for racial reasons. I'd say 1% of Trump's voters probably saw it as a return of white america. And only because the media told them thats what it was.
I know Sup Forumss main reason for supporting him was economics, nothing to do with race. He has a jewish convert for a daughter for fucks sake, Sup Forums is too smart for that. Every day economics/trade threads would rage, Obamaleaf became famous because it was one fag against all of Sup Forums

Cute
I wish we had the politics of Poland

also Sup Forums loves assad

thanks for posting lauren

Yeah, and I think A LOT of people are like that. We just need to push the overton window as hard as possible, until more and more people are comfortable talking.

>When you add up the support and not opposed its over half of all americans

>Alt-right
Nice meme, why don't you go back to ?

Fair enough, maybe the point about Trump was a bit stretched, but I don't think that detracts from whether or not the people polled were able to distinguish the "alt-right" from basic civic nationalism

We don't have a regime, but we will.

And thats who was willing to admit it, or who knew what it was other than it being bad word the media says. Good, we are getting closer to the tipping point.

bump

You should update this, user. OP's figures check out as being 16.4% of the white population, right? Having 10% of Americans is more than 25 million people, because the US is more than 250 million people

Can we all ban together and make an ethnostate now? Please?

If we ever get to that point. I fear whites will never act until after the collapse, when their comfortable lives have been interrupted. However by that point it is too late.

Even then, how do they retaliate? Does it occur to you how great the scope of what we need to do is? How far and wide and how deep the 'Marxists' have infiltrated and established themselves?

this is very important. take a look at this chart

>57% of moderates believe they are stifled by political correctness

the fire rises

I'm a Dem who supports the alt-right. Just sick of trannies and niggers and niggertrannies and identity politics. Wish alt-right would back up the economic populism with some real gusto, and also talk about environmental issues other than muh climate change. Everything else is being ignored because of fucking Al Gore that faggot.

And its true, the fucking left hate working class whites, and particularly hate poor whites because they disprove the myth of white privilege and expose it for the class privilege it really is.

I am a lefty and I fucking hate the corporatist-identity politics left. And yeah, it really is the jews. Fuck, does this make me a national socialist?

What the hell is the "alt-right"?

When whites become about 35-40% minority we will never be able to win another election. that coupled with all the various assaults, rapes, thefts, the destruction of white cities etc will be catalyst. Either whites will secede or we will march though the streets spilling subhuman blood with every step

>how deep the 'Marxists' have infiltrated
Who are you talking about? Pic related?

I don't think you'll ever get climate change, but this tax cut stinks of the jews.

It’s not unfathomable to think that for every action to normalize degeneracy, there is an equal and opposite reaction to resist those movements. For every man larping as a woman you’ll find someone else who sees reality for what it really is.

(((Abc))) poll
Into the trash it goes

youtube.com/watch?v=n8oFKS84-yc

Soon

You're missing the point...

Why would ABC want to oversell how much support for the alt-right there is? They wouldn't. They would want to downplay how much support there is (and they clearly do so, by oversampling democrats). OP's point is that even if we use ABC's numbers, its impossible to deny we are on the precipice of something

>Fuck, does this make me a national socialist?
Lol...it sure as hell sounds like it.

fucking environmentalists are so obsessed with climate change, hello, the climate has been changing since the beginning of Earth. at the expense of everything else, if an environmental group or academic study points out that there is fucking estrogen in the water because of birth control pills, they are attacked by the trannies and the feminists.

meanwhile the feminists reject the trannies (rightly so) and the trannies physically attack the feminists (hilariously so)

its all just retardedness. the right is retarded in its own ways like hey let this corporation give entire communities fucking cancer to maximize their profits. that shit is stupid too.

i like that the tax cut fucks over Cali/NY/Illinois, but it should focus on benefitting the working and middle class, not the idle rich. it literally helps business owners that don't actually operate the business, just sit on their ass. fuck that, those windfalls should be going to small business owners.

Whenever you feel blackpilled or demoralized, remember this.

Within the decade our movement will be unstoppable. We will finally retake our homelands.

I'm not a fascist though. I just hate the totalitarian left and their agenda. The right is just less totalitarian right now.

>2017
>believing polls

>Because Independents are probably less likely than Republicans to support the alt-right
You got that reversed
Alt right is highly likely to attract non-party affiliated conservatives

I'm with you 100%. I used to be a leftist for all my life. I grew up in a poor family, I never got any of the benefits of "white privilege", in fact I got even less than the non-whites who get the benefit of affirmative action, and diversity quotas. I started to resent the left, one thing led to another, and I ended up here.

buy more guns. so many guns they can never take them away.

remember they were trying to grab guns long before spree killing became a thing. their biggest obstacle is citizens with rifles.

First of all you need to think why 41% of people had no opinions. Americans usual express their opinions.

You aren't really that deluded are you? Ten percent of Americans probably don't know what the alt-right is. If the poll said ten percent of Americans support the concept of an ethnostate we would be getting somewhere but what is more likely is that ten percent don't know what the alt-right is but they are right-wing so they figure they support it.

even graduate-level academia is sick of the SJW indoctrination of undergrads. this was selected to be on the main google news feed today:

newbostonpost.com/2017/11/09/undoing-the-dis-education-of-millennials/

that or he's been visiting Sup Forums. the comments are great. smart people are sick of SJW jew bullshit.

I would never admit it either. Closest I have come is telling a BLM nigger that blames whitey for everything that its really the jews poisoning his people, listen to the Nation of Islam if he doesn't want to hear it from a white guy.

See That's a fair point

See

I think this thread should be deleted
you know how wapo and buzzfeed and BBC are lurking here, they need any excuse to step up their efforts to get this little anti-globalism movement buried by 2020

keep the support quiet. if no one knows how many people actually support this little nazi uprising then it'll be too late for them by the time they grasp the magnitude of what they're facing

Exactly. Its been so demonized if you support it you don't admit it.

Too bad the alt right is made up by lefties...

Just be good, proud conservatives and stick to your guns.

the media and governments already know everything in this thread and have for longer than us

kek underrated
nice flag down there too, somehow makes it funnier knowing you're croatian

Do you think it would really help there cause to print an article saying just how many white people support this? It seems like their entire angle has been to downplay how much support there is, in order to discourage whites from openly discussing their support

Honestly it's probably a fake poll to make America look more racis, but I like your enthusiasm

i hope so. sometimes i really wonder

I was actually a Bernie supporter until he said "White people don't know what its like to be poor" that fucking idiot pandering to identity politics. Thats when he turned his back on economic populism, the faggot. The entire premise of that retarded obviously false statement is to pretend poor whites don't exist because they prove that "white privilege" is a fucking myth, and the only whites that believe in it are affluent liberal whites mistaking their class privilege because of their guilt complex.

The only economic populist left in the running was Trump, so I voted for him. That and to kill TPP, and I was rewarded immediately when Trump took office. I like that Trump has thrown both parties into a civil war, the two party system is thoroughly corrupt, burn it down and salt the earth.

Those polls are anonymous you nigger no one's going to find out that you're a closet conservative, no one cares enough.

fucking saved. excellent.

Or your phone number gets flagged by (((them))) and you get put on the shitlist.

Fascism is generally understood in (civilized) politics to be an *economic* doctrine, so you don't necessarily need to be a fascist to be a national socialist.
It's difficult to find sources to help this argument along because national socialism is generally synonymous with most contemporaries as Nazism, and not its own school of thought, but in the general sense yeah you don't need to be a fascist.
I mean really there where people within the Nazi party that supported all sorts of economic policies.

>America is a white nation
>In reality America is a nation that only cares about money. Since bringing foreigners to work is where the profit is at whether it be slavery or letting hordes of Mexicans/others in- America will never be a white nation so long as the capitalist spirit is overwhelming

you sound like you might be a neoreactionary

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

What "shitlist", what are they going to do? How would they even know which member of the household answered the phone? Will then your entire family and/or all of your roommates go on the "shitlist"? How has this list remained secret for so long, and how is a list of half the country helpful?

>To begin, it finds that 10% of Americans support the alt-right
So why do I care?Tthe polls said trump had a 1% - 5% chance of winning, yet we memed that faggot to the white house and cleaned our nutsack with every poll made by all news outlets. You do understand most of us know how predictable people are? If we wanted and organized, we could elect a fucking degenerate from Sup Forums to run for president and forced feet threads in national news. That's why (((they))) shill the living shit out of this site, we have unlimited meme magic and the governments are afraid we use the weakest part of democracy against them.

>Since whites are 61% of the population (Census Bureau), that means 16.4% of White Americans support the alt-right
fair enough

All the rest of your post is wishful thinking or straight up retarded

In the same poll 10% of Americans support "neonazism" in those words, same % who support the alt-right. Meaning people just see the alt-right as neonazis, and the "undecided" just don't know what the alt-right is.

Did you even read the post? The whole point of it is that the actual support is likely greater than 10%.

can i get a link, I want to see what the question exactly was

>People just see the alt-right as neonazis
What are you retarded or something? The poll reveals that only 39% of people polled equated the alt-right with neo-nazism. It's literally in the picture.

Link to new TDS paywall episode pls (they discussed this in one of their latest episodes btw)

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The link is: archive.is/ywcoL

Which part exactly? Do you dispute that support for the alt-right is more likely to come from Republicans than Democrats? I don't think any reasonable person would dispute that, as Republicans are more right-leaning than Dems, and the Dem's tone has been very anti-white in recent years. So assuming that you acknowledge that proposition, you have to admit that the real % of Americans who support the alt-right is higher than 10%, because the Republicans were under-sampled.

I'm not gonna walk through all of the reasoning from start to finish again. At what point do you think the logic is flawed?

yea this very good ,but they dont act we are dying and none has the courage to act ,they are useless the political activism is absolutly necesary

Polls are scientifically flawed, they don't matter even if real.
>did you read the post?
Stopped after your assumptions started covering your numbers

I REALLY hate their question. The way it's phrased is dubious.

The question was 'Do you yourself think it’s acceptable or unacceptable to hold neo-Nazi or whitesupremacist views?'

Do you think there's a % of people who voted this because they think youre allowed to (but not necessarily endorse these views) ?

>Which part exactly? Do you dispute that support for the alt-right is more likely to come from Republicans than Democrats?
No, but you attempting to 'fix' a professional poll without any experience in the field is a surefire way to fuck up the results. I'm not a statistician so I won't explain professional methods but what I know is there's more democrats than republicans in the USA

As for the rest of your post, I'll just simply add that interpreting polling beyond what it says is also a surefire way to get mislead

>Let’s be honest: if asked about neo-Nazism, and you respond, “no opinion,” then you probably sympathize with the alt-right. If so, then at least 17% of Americans support the alt-right
absolute wishful thinking

If somebody itt wanna participate:

nevermind the part where i doubt the question, i missed the ''Thinking now about the movement known as the alt-right, or alternative right. Wouldyou describe yourself as a (supporter) or as an (opponent) of the alt-right movement?Do you support/oppose it strongly, or somewhat?''

Its a very clear question

Califag here
It will happen, I am doing my best... Ride the Tiger

The alt-right has really had it's name dragged through the mud. But very few people actually adopted it before that happened. So they essentially jumped the gun and now we get to point and laugh at people who talk about the alt-right seriously even while we may effectively be what they are trying to push into their prematurely trashed label.

>and also talk about environmental issues other than muh climate change.

The whole environmental movement is just a globalist Agenda 21 plot to control more of our lives.

it only takes 9% to overthrow the govt

This, never answer polls correctly. They will use this information against you.

i wonder why???

They phrase them this way in order to get the answer they like. It's called "coding" and it's a trick.