Merkel lead the negotiations to form a new german government. Their plan was "Jamaika-Koalition" (black/yellow/green)
2017 election resultst: Union CDU/CSU ("conservatives"/black) 32,9% SPD (social democrats/red) 20,5% AfD (ourguys/blue) 12,6% FDP (liberals, not in the american meaning of the term/yellow) 10,7% Linke (socialists/purple) 9,2% Green Party (tree huggers/green obv.) 8,9%
Prior to the real Koalition-Negatiations the "sounding out"-phase for a Jamaika-Koalition failed.
Most important demands of each party: >Union Refugee guide number of 200k per year >FDP Abandon the Solidarity-Tax (extra tax for west-germans, for gibs to east-germans) >Green Party Make refuge a human right Unlimited immigration for families of refugees who already made it to germany Abandon coal power until 2030* Prohibition of new registrations of combustion engines until 2030*
the demand with * are the ones on which green party resigned to form a koalition tonight ~01:30 Christian Lindner (Chairman of FDP) announced that the pre-negotiations failed, because of fundamentaly different positions on immigration. specififaly the chain-migration policy for families are what he found inacceptable.
for Merkel the last option now is a minority government. re-elections will be held if angela merkel is not elected chancelor with at least 50,1%. IF SHE'S NOT ELECTED CHANCELOR re-elections will be held. since lindner showed balls and many non-voters would be mobilized this would only mean more votes for FDP and AfD.
Sup Forumsacks we need to meme a black/blue/yellow government into existance. it would be stable and in the interest of natural german population. merkel may not be re-elected.
With Jamaika Coalition out of the picture: >Merkel never this weak. >Schulz is pretty much fucked.
Big coaliton is pretty much the only way for them to save their carreers. But that would mean massive losses for both in the next election.
Gavin Watson
merkel checkmate in 2 turns
Elijah Morris
>Christian Lindner enters history books as remover of Merkel
Owen Johnson
>re-elections will be held if angela merkel is not elected chancelor with at least 50,1%. >IF SHE'S NOT ELECTED CHANCELOR re-elections will be held. No. There will be two votes for chancellor where an absolut majority is needed, then a third where its enough to get more votes than anyone else. Then it`s up to Steinmeier to decide if he will appoint her as the leader of a minority government or call new elections.
Isaiah Nelson
>Schulz is pretty much fucked Elaborate, new elections could prove useful for the SPD.
Sebastian Wright
Schulz lacks a grand vision to get voters (and the left wing of the SPD) behind him. Strategically some SPD voters could decide to switch to the greens for the time being, since it`s unlikely that the SPD will be able to form a government and anything but another Grand coalition is going to include the greens
Owen Lopez
>all of them pretending that they were totally going to find agreeable compromises well, I guess Merkel would have signed everything, but FDP and Greens have pretty different demands. This was never going to end in a coalition, Lindner is just the only one of those participating who does not have to fear re-elections.
Easton Edwards
>IF SHE'S NOT ELECTED CHANCELOR re-elections will be held. False by the way, you only need the absolute majority in the first two rounds, in the third one a simple majority is sufficient. But no one would want to rule like that. I'd be an even bigger shame than calling re-elections.
Christopher Hughes
thx for pointing it out. will post correctly next time.
LINDNER STRONK
Thomas Anderson
>Big coaliton is pretty much the only way for them to save their carreers. Not gonna happen I think, the SPD already reaffirmed their stance that they are not available for a GroKo. Seems like they finally understood why they've been bleeding votes (at least to some degree)
Jeremiah Long
check #Jamaika on twitter, lefties are loosing their shit and accuse the FDP of conspiracy and beeing right wing lel
Easton Lewis
>completely dysfunctional shitshow on the horizon >Lindner does the right thing and puts it out of its misery >"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" They truly are retarded. If the population actually wanted Merkel she wouldn't need to enter negotiations with three other parties that have vastly different stances on the various topics.
Jose Garcia
Großartig, there is no shortage of leftist tears.
Carter Lee
>Lindner Saltmining Incorporated gegen den austieg aus dem salzabbau bis 2030 :DDDD
>extra tax for west-germans, for gibs to east-germans Everybody who pays income tax, corporate tax or capital gains tax pays the Solidaritätszuschlag, stupid libtard.
Revoking it would be a short-term benefit mainly for the rich. But it's set to end beginning with 2019 anyway. Other than that, those faggots lack any real policies.
Andrew Parker
well even better then, less taxes for even more people. less bureaucracy. but what makes me a libtard memeflag?
Benjamin Carter
>Merkel BTFO
finally!
Alexander Miller
Lindnerfag is playing a dangerous game on our backs, while time is ticking.
Jayden Perry
Your flag looks like a BLACKED Ukraine, kek.
Owen Richardson
The "Gottkanzler"-slogan hurt him a lot, because guilible idiots are associating this with 1) Trump and 2) Hitler. He's no better than Hillary with her "It's my turn"; he has no substance in his words and absolutely no vision
Tyler Clark
THIS. Germany is dancing on a vulcano and all those old elites manage is to waste time to play tiny chidlren's games as usual. They are all not worthy of running this country including AFD.
Jason Bell
>Jamaika sounds suspiciously like "Jamaica" is their masterplan to get every german high?
Easton Wood
This, I doubt many germans even recognized that Gottkanzler thing, though. His was pale as aver, coming along with the usual football-talk like we are all plebs ('we are in the second quarter, we must score a goal now blabla') and he made the mistake of trying to find a balance between old boomers in his party and younger progressives. He didn't understand that there is not much time for such a transition, it's starting to cook.
Nathan Harris
praise kek
we need re-elections so all liberals who voted AfD for their liberal wing that has gone with petry will now go FDP.
re-elections biggest winners would be FDP & AfD. i don't see how that is dancing on a vulcano. i see it as beeing consequent, since FDP would have needed so sell out AGAIN if they wanted to maika Jamaika happen.
Jordan Price
True. I am not completely sure if people will honor FDP for this, I believe they should have cut the talks much earlier, this was a nasty game. I believe they weren't even interested in sitting in government, they loved the populistic opposition too much. They actually created a big buildup just to let it deflate like that. So much for being the 'economic specialists' they proclaim, markets hate uncertainty like that. With dancing on a volcano I mean germany has big problems ahead which aren't all about muh immigration. We have an economy way too fixated on car industry, a healthcare system which will have a hard time dealing with all those retired boomers when it's about time and the rest is a mess as well. I mean they talk about digitalization since those 'computer-inder' back then, remember? We have nothing, not a cyber warfare unit not a centralized database for refugees either. We can't waste time like that, people get insecure and paranoid, a bad mixture for rational decisions.
Aaron Rogers
truth be told. we need law & order. FDP at this point in time is the law&order party. i voted AfD, but if it comes to relections i'll vote FDP. lindner has my trust now. and i know several people (for example my business economics teacher) who didn't vote FDP due to fear of beeing betrayed again. hope for the best prepare for the worst. stay vigilant.
Evan Lopez
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Jose Johnson
i just had an epiphany. what if they will go for RED-RED-GREEN after re-elections? that would be complete armageddon. i'm scared lads.
John Flores
I wanted to vote FDP but then I realized that I live in Pegida central. This time I'll probably go AfD 1st, FDP 2nd vote, because CDU might be weakened enough to get us a Direktmandat. The problem is where to get the missing 9% from the leftard greens. If only Merkel would resgin so that CDU could get a few % more so that they break the 50%.
Jack Morgan
This is the thing, law and order. We cannot talk about preserving western culture and throw it overboard the same sentence. Respect all, fear none. We have rule of law and if you act accordingly you are welcome. If not get dealt with accordingly by all of us who don't want to see it burn. These peoples trying to destroy us, they are everywhere. And they can easily hide because we still do our math around ancient separations like race, religion, gender. the FDP is so disgustingly opportunistic sometimes, that makes me doubt their integrity. Also they have some policies which are really braindead. None of the parties right now represents what I stand for.
