Is Charles Manson the ultimate scapegoat of the American justice system?

Is Charles Manson the ultimate scapegoat of the American justice system?

I´m a foreigner and not a fanboy, but to me it seems a bit far-fetched idea that this one man was convicted of being both Jesus Christ and The Devil (literally)

Here is article from the 70s during the trials:
>Tuesday, August 18th, 1970
>LOS ANGELES, Aug. 18 – Linda Kasabian testified yesterday she believed Charles Manson was “the Devil” after she witnessed one of the Tate-LaBianca murders and was afraid to tell authorities because she believed he might kill her daughter.
>The 21-year-old mother of two, who has been on the witness stand 16 days, has testified she once believed Manson was “the Messiah”

You never gave him even a chance to defend himself or explain his actions. Instead, he was convicted being both Jesus Christ and The Devil and boomers blamed all the bad things that happened in the 60s.

FUCK CHUCK and fuck you OP for making this piece of shit relevant.

Can we get the true "redpill" about him??
People are very mad about him on twitter & shit.

He is meat thrown to the crowds. There are literally politicians worse than him. I'm not even sure he was guilty.

There was a really good podcast series about him by a female historian who specialised in old hollywood called you must remember this. It was fucking awesome except for her terrible acting. She is shit at dialogue but the story is great and well worth the listen.

How many people did he kill?

His mother was a whore who would fuck men next to him. Iirc he had to join in sometimes or fill in for her. He was deeply disturbed.

Boomers are fucking retarded...who knew

He comes from Mountain Men stock with a mother that had a serious history of criminal activity, and a lot of times he spent with no parents at all because his mother was in jail for shit like armed robbery.

He was sexually abused by some accounts, definitely endured seeing his mother railed by his own account.

He was a manipulative degenerate that kept a small harem of guys/girls that he constantly dosed with drugs in a hippie commune that he called "the Ranch".

He was shortly involved with one of the Beach Boys (moved into Dennis' house I think
) as he was trying to get himself into the rock'n'roll scene, but him and his ilk were a little too ridiculous and eventually I think they left the house to him because he simply wouldn't leave.

He talked a lot of pseudo-logical nonsense that was mostly sophistry designed to make up for his own shortcomings and excuse his ridiculous behavior.

By admission of the girls (Leslie Van Houten) he orchestrated but did not carry out the murders by his own hands, but there's some speculation that he killed people and wasn't caught.


Seriously, just a piece of shit that glommed on to the "free love" movement to take advantage of vulnerable girls and boys to spread his deranged ideas that was a bunch of bullshit laced with truisms.

There is a whole book about him called helter skelter that will inform you more than a thread will when most people here are too young to even know about him.

exactly zero.

He was absolutely complicit in murder.

He may not have dealt the final blow, but he orchestrated the deaths of people.

He definitely by his own admission shot Bernard Crow and was present at the killing of Hinman.

So why was he sentenced to death and afterwards for lifelong prison?

This. Good book

He manipulated his followers into doing the murders. What is so complicated in that? I don't see people defending crime bosses who order assassinations

fascinating guy

but i found it terrible how dumbfucks like guns n roses singer made him some sort of "cool guy", running around with shirts with his face and everything

I swear it's the only time in my life where I actually see Sup Forumslacks trying to defend a drugged out hippie nutbag.

The man co-opted a movement trying to be a degenerate rock star and when no one wanted to support his shitty music he chimped out and tried to start race wars and orchestrated murders.

He deserved to die in jail, he even said himself that he belonged in jail.

Seriously reminds me of self identified "lefists" wearing Che shirts unironically.

>You never gave him even a chance to defend himself
It's never a good idea to do that. Lawyers always advise to not get on the stand

Well a majority of people here believe in race wars and such, of course a lot of them also defend Manson. As long as there is a racialist connection between a person and their action, Sup Forums will always defend it no matter how evil.

He was literally the patsy for ritual murders by the satanic jew elites in hollywood/folgers. His followers were MK Ultra mindslaves. CIA did this ritual for several reasons but subverting the antiwar movement was a big one.

>He was a manipulative degenerate that kept a small harem of guys/girls that he constantly dosed with drugs in a hippie commune that he called "the Ranch".
Serious question: Was the fact that he was charged for manipulating people used in the case of the girl who caused her boyfriend to kill himself by sending sms recently?

Especially when he showed up to court with an X carved into his forehead

Charles Manson never existed
there were no "Tate murders"
"the Family" was CIA nigger actors

gtfo of here with your faggotry

Adios habbibi

The murders were drug deals gone wrong

well i was not trying to defend him
but he still is the prime example on how people begin cults, theres no other person where it is so well documented on how to do it
so ofcourse its a Sup Forums relevant figure

What are you talking about?

He was never "charged with manipulating people". He was charged for first-degree murder because he ordered his followers to kill people.

the girl was not charged for manipulating neither.

It's baffling, the guy is everything Sup Forums says about niggers.

Hit me up with some snackalicious factoids.

I genuinely don't know, I heard of that case but didn't pursue much of the proceedings.

I was agreeing with you Toothpaste-bro.

the devil is symbolic, christianity is entirely symbolic. anyone who thinks one person is the son of God or the Devil is fucking braindead

Yeah, so what the fuck are you talking about?

You literally asked if the fact that he was charged with manipulation had any effect on the girls trial. He wasn't charged with it, so what are you asking?

Not trying to be an asshole, but what you are writing doesn't make much sense.

>"charged with manipulating people"
why did the women came out from prison earlier than him then?

It was implied that she was manipulated into doing the crimes, and a mixture of drugs/brainwashing is what drove her to do it.

She should have stayed in prison.