Merkel lead the negotiations to form a new german government. Their plan was "Jamaika-Koalition" (black/yellow/green)
2017 election resultst: Union CDU/CSU ("conservatives"/black) 32,9% SPD (social democrats/red) 20,5% AfD (ourguys/blue) 12,6% FDP (liberals, not in the american meaning of the term/yellow) 10,7% Linke (socialists/purple) 9,2% Green Party (tree huggers/green obv.) 8,9%
Prior to the real Koalition-Negatiations the "sounding out"-phase for a Jamaika-Koalition failed.
Most important demands of each party: >Union Refugee guide number of 200k per year >FDP Abandon the Solidarity-Tax >Green Party Make refuge a human right Unlimited immigration for families of refugees who already made it to germany Abandon coal power until 2030* Prohibition of new registrations of combustion engines until 2030*
the demand with * are the ones on which green party resigned to form a koalition sunday night 11/19 Christian Lindner (Chairman of FDP) announced that the pre-negotiations failed, because of fundamentaly different positions on immigration and finance.
for Merkel the last option now is a minority government. IF SHE'S NOT ELECTED CHANCELOR re-elections will be held. since lindner showed balls and many non-voters would be mobilized this would only mean more votes for FDP and AfD.
Sup Forumsacks we need to meme a black/blue/yellow government into existance. it would be stable and in the interest of natural german population.
Please for the love of God fix your fucking country and lead the rest of Europe out of madness.
I'm praying for you.
David Cruz
Also I don't follow German politics. In the US it's pretty easy to figure out which party is supporting the globalists during a particular cycle cause we only have two parties; which party in Germany is the one driving your country into the fucking ground?
In the US it was the Democrats.
Hunter Nelson
we're working on it. keeop your eyes open, this will be an ongoing process for the next months.
Mason Roberts
CDU is merkel's party i believe, so probably them.
Asher Sullivan
it's all of them except AfD and possibly now also FDP, if their comeback is honest and Lindner will not fuck us over.
Benjamin Scott
SPD (social democrats) candidate for this election was the former president of EU-Parliament Martin Schulz.
Wyatt Jenkins
>In the US it's pretty easy to figure out which party is supporting the globalists Yeah, because it's always both, trump is not a party man and neither was Reagan. Draw your own conclusions about Trump's future
Isaiah Wright
oh christ thats fucking terrible, yeah don't vote for them.
John Mitchell
FDP's proposed migration policy explained:; Christian Lindners 4-door-system work like this:
There are 4 doors thru witch you can immigrate to germany. 1st door: Asylum. This only applies to very small number of INDIVIDUALY persecuted people. They get permanent residence permit. 2nd door: Refuge for people who flee war-zones. This applies to over 95% of recent migrants. They may not stay permanently, they must go back once peace in their homeland is established. Family Members who are in other countries may not be fetched to germoney. 3rd door: Qualified migration. People who have something to offer, educated individuals who have a good chance for employment and their families. 4th door: 4th door is a wall. no "dublin suspension"-like mass immigration.
but you can for example get educated in germany as long as you stay as refugee and apply for the 3rd door if you're successfull.
this is a very reasonable migration policy which will actualy lead to integration in the workforce.
Wyatt Gutierrez
frogbump
Joshua Jackson
ah now i see why dis threat is less populated than the prior.
Isaac Taylor
shills are constantly opening threads now, stick to this thread-line it is Q APPROVED
Gavin Bennett
OP is a faggot who says he is totally off the AfD train here: He is shilling for FDP hide and ignore this thread
Kevin Fisher
wrong, this is my threadline. (Q presence archive.is/vvKGq) this thread is disctraction.
Benjamin Hill
I guarantee they will get you with number 3. They will make the bar extremely low whenever a leftist is in power.
Leo Nelson
ugh wtf okay fail, wrong tab.
Bentley Reyes
am i off the AfD train whe i advocate for black/blue/yellow?
i guess not.
Lincoln Campbell
we're actually about to bring back older standards because several reforms have terribly failed. and leftists will never be in charge of education - it happened once and it was a complete disaster - even leftist teachers agree on that.
Connor Butler
you literally say in your post you were an AfD voter but now suddenly you and all your friends are for FDP in the case of another election. That absolutely reeks of shilling. This is some ebin lefty plan to lure voters away from AfD.
it is because i voted AfD for their economic wing. since petry has gone the best party for free market is FDP. i expect AfD to be rather protective in their trade policies.
don't create an artificial devide here, we're in the same boat. if we wan't to get rid off merkel we need to unite. (bahamas coalition)
i donÄt even know what ebin is dude. i would have to google that term.
Mason Myers
Herr Gauland is quite old. How much longer do you reckon he can lead the party?
Even AfD isn't for leaving the EU. That would be the first step in seeing actual protectionist policies
Easton Miller
>i voted AfD for their economic wing. Yah that's totally why posters here on Sup Forums vote for AfD >i donÄt even know what ebin is dude. As if your constant PRAISE GEG meme spouting wasn't a dead giveaway that (You) are an outsider pack it up you are done here shill
Ayden Long
the EU as trade union is very good thing, AfD as well as FDP are against turning it into an "override state"
Look Mohammed, I've told you once, and if I have to tell you twice, imma start screaming. Take whatever ebin tactical plan you have to lure voters away from AfD and fuck off.
Adrian Hall
okay so answer the recent poster who somehow think i'm shilling against AfD:
don't create an artificial devide here. i'm trying to make you vote FDP instead of AfD. i'm trying to unite us, so we can cuck Union into obedience and form a bahamas coalition after coming re-elections.
Thomas Morgan
*not
Joseph Perez
>i'm trying to make you vote FDP instead of AfD
Thomas Morgan
>i'm trying to make you vote FDP instead of AfD Holy fuck they are not sending their best
Liam Ward
That's one hell of a Freudian slip there, mate.
Leo Thompson
yeah. bad typo, see message as a whole. getting tired, need focus.
Jaxson Bennett
since you're so vigilant, keep voting AfD. i don't want you to do anything else. i only hope to make you realize that an Afd& FDP together could positively influence migration laws and it would actually lead to government participation of AfD. what more could you ask for?
Gabriel Carter
The AfD will go into Opposition, they stated more than once that they don't want a government participation for now.
Elijah Ramirez
Fdp is the closest you can get to ancap. Be a retard somewhere else
Hunter Brooks
latest development:
twitter.com setting #Jamaika and #Jamaica tags equal so searches for #Jamaika will lead you to stuff like this
Isaiah Robinson
Check your flag mate
Adam Reyes
did they consider Bahamas as a possibilty? this position makes perfect sense but only to the point when Merkel is Dead, re-elections boost AfD & FDP and Bahamas possible. why opposition when they can actual come to legislativ power?
Joseph Sanchez
nigger i picked AnCap because its the first on the list goddamn medkit mountain jew
Josiah Gomez
bahamas? are you fucking mental? t-they'd have to work with evil nazis, dude.
They don't associate with these unwashed heathens.
Alexander Powell
i know it's unlikely. we'll need some real meme magik to it habben.
Cooper Long
this search term will lead to correct resultst on twatter #Jamaika -#Jamaica
Jose Adams
with the stats we have right now, we can assume SPD takes the position of the CDU in jamaica and sucks ass for 4 years.
If we're lucky though, it turns out better. because SPD is the biggest other contender. HOWEVER: the party crashed under schulz and might have blowback too then.
Noah Thompson
So there's blood in the water, right? It seems like there is. Merkel suddenly seems weak.
Wyatt Moore
right, we need to remind the german public how horrible of a EU-Parliament President Schulz was. Noone wants an authoritarian asshole like him as chancelor.
Dominic Brown
If you think the Democrats are the only globalists I got oceanfront property in Idaho to sell you
Jack Nguyen
Gtfo newfag
Juan Carter
kek
Kevin Flores
Retard, Petry wasn't the only liberal. Weidel, Meuthen, Bystron just to name a few high ranking people still are very pro market. If you genuinely believe a vote for FDP will make SGB likely, you're either a shill or naive. That won't happen until AfD is at 20% and everybody is forced to work with them.
Aaron Morris
call it naive or call it a vision. i know it's unlikely. and i don't want you to change your vote or whatever. fact is SGB is already 56,2%. after re-elections possibly more.
Cameron Powell
Voting for FDP now will only achieve what Lindner has been doing this shtick for: black yellow. He thinks by fuccing Jamaica he'll get enough AfD voters back to get a Black yellow majority. There is nothing more to it. He isn't based all of a sudden, it's a calculated maneauver to cuck the AfD out of power.
Tyler Howard
i want Lindners 4-door migration policy implemented (). in this situation it is the only way to stop mass immigration in this legislative period.
Jacob Turner
The U.S. media reporting "Merkel Defiant! Will NOT Step Down!" as if that's some great thing.
Isn't she, after 12 years in power, hurting her country for the sole sake of maintaining her position? Or is she specifically not the problem with forming a coalition?
Along with May she's one of the last female in the West in a power government role.
Dylan Smith
Hey OP. One of your southern brothers here. I have an idea for your project. How about we propagate a "Bahams coalition"? It's like a parody of the "Jamaica coalition" and good for memes I think. Anyways, I pray in church every Subday for the well being of our closest brother nation. I really hope your ideal coalition will come into existence.
Jonathan Davis
>US media shilling for her i don't wonder at all, she's a transatlantic.
Dylan Stewart
good idea, but you're not the first to come up with it. if you want to engage in memetic warfare, create one of these i'll start meming this afternoon when a friend who's good with GIMP comes over.
Nathan Morales
Nah, we need to shill against Chrisiboy at all costs. He's the only one who can harm the AfD now. His sudden turn to the right was instigated in order to get enough AfD swingvoters in the reelection to make blavk yellow possible. Bahamas isn't possible this legislature period. We need to make sure that the chaos we have now remains. The longer it takes to form a government the better. We need GroKo right now. It'll make sure that both CDU and SPD will be dead for good in 4 years. Only Lindner getting enough dumbasses to believe his opportunistic moves are sincere could make this impossible. We don't need a stable government, we need this to go to shit as fast as possible. Lefties already hate Lindner, we need to make rightwingers hate him, too by reminding them he is for fag marriage, dude weed and all the other good stuff.
Camden Miller
I have the feeling some JuLi faggots created something similar to r/the_Schulz in order to shill their goytoy Lindner. You're being way too obvious, m8. People already tried to subvert these threads. We aren't as gullible as bento makes you believe, nigger.
Matthew Morgan
you miss the fact that i'm not trying to make you vote FDP. keep voting AfD. my single aim is to make Bahamas a thing.
Sebastian James
These are so cute
Sebastian Brown
thats a fucking conspiracy theory. his migration policy is law&order and position on taxes and education classic liberalism.
why be against him if re-elections will increase your % and bahamas could lead to government participation of AfD?
Nathan Lee
Nooooo now the AfD will get even less votes :(
Leo Edwards
Not gonna happen. AfD is the boogeyman of every party. Nobody will work with them or they'll risk enormous backlash. Bahamas maybe is an option in 4 years. Until then our goal should be to get AfD in the 20% area and stall the government forming process out for as long as possible. A paralyzed government can't do harm. But to achieve this we need to shit all over Lindner. He is the FDP's strength but also their biggest weakness.
Henry Lee
>conspiracy theory Opinion discarded. If you think this was anything else than a ploy you're ecen more of a blind follower than the Chulz niggers.
Thomas James
Is it horrible that I like both the FDP and AFD but dont care much for the CDU/CSU?
Carson Young
Guys should we meme a left/FDP/CDU coalition? I know a coalition with AfD would be best, but I think noone would be willing to do it and I fear that they might get even less percent now.
Nathaniel Cox
how are JuLi who conspire on a subreddit to make AfD voters go FDP not a conspiracy theory? pls elaborate.
Lindners 4-door migration policy is literaly the only way to stop mass immigration within THIS legislative period.
even if the CSU guide number is not exceeded (lel it will be) then thats 4*200k migrants.
jamaika failed because lindner did not approve of mass immigration. we can turn this into something. AfD +20% in 4 years? would be nice but thats another four years of mass immigration. time is ticking lads.
Ryder Murphy
mhhh, i think they would actualy profit, because a lot of nonvoters will go to the ballots.
Kayden Price
now that's a shill.
Christopher Robinson
HOW THE FUCK SHE DROPS THE COUNTRY TO SHIT . AND SHE STILL WINS . POLITICAL FRAUD REEEEEEEEEEE
Lincoln Carter
can someone redpill me on q? what did he tell us before it happened?
Austin Mitchell
Lindner is an opportunist. Before the negotiations he along with the rest of his godforsaken party preached about helping all the poor fugees, now all of a sudden he's supposed to be literally Hitler and our salvation? Not buying that, m8. He'll just collect naive strategic voters like you for Mama Merkel and turn right back to his neoliberal pro EU origins, advocating for mass immigration in order to stimulate the economy. There isn't any more depths to his action. He's fooling weak willed people who don't know better to switch back from de ebil Nazis. He's trying to become an alternative to the AfD only to get into the government. He couldn't care less about the well being of the German people. He's just another politician reaching out his jew hands to money and power.
Nathaniel Lewis
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Julian Johnson
Sorry manI but I really worry that the AfD will get less votes now, to ensure that a coalition happens. However hopefully they'll get atleast 15 percent next time.
Nicholas Wright
he's still trying to help refugees. but he does not want them to get permanent residence permit. pls read this they established their presence in parliament. they're second largest opposition party. even if some AfD voters go FDP now to stop mass immigration within THIS legislative period it won't hurt them. i hope to see them gain more votes in 2021 elections too.
Grayson Bennett
GET
Nolan Martin
>he's still trying to help refugees Yeah, that's a codeword for flooding Germany. All the actual refugees are already here. Only Central African and North African fucks are coming now. His feel good "let's close the border a little bit" won't do shit. He doesn't want to stop immigration, so he isn't deserving of our support. Only negative immigration will help us, anything else is playing right into Merkel's and her overlord's cards. That's why he won't talk to the AfD and Bahamas isn't an option; he doesn't want to stop this madness, he wants to slow it down so the critical people stop worrying and let the government do as it pleases, just like our good friend Memehofer.
Elijah Ortiz
again you didn't read pls stat taking this more serious instead of throwing slogans.
Getting Lindners migration policy implemented is - for this legislative period - literaly the only way to stop mass immigration. we can't take another 4 years of dublin suspension. even if the CSU guide number will not be exceeded that another 800k refugees + family remember who will be allowed to come to germany too.
i voted AfD, but when it comes to re-elections our best shot is strengthening the FDP so say can make the 4-door system happen.
black-yellow far perfect but it's our best shot at this point.
bahamas would be a dream come true though.
Josiah Ortiz
No, black yellow isn't better. It still consists of all the same politicians leading us into this shit in the first place. Just because FDP is in the government, all the Merkelites won't magically change their position. You know who would, though? The FDP. They are very well known for being little faggots that will bend over for their bigger coalition partner. I'm not saying Lindi's plan would be as bad as oit current situation, I'm saying it won't be implemented because the FDP consists of men of big words, not of men of action. All a stronget FDP will achieve is a weak AfD. And the weaker the AfD, the less likely a Bahama coalition in the future. The only way we can get it is the AfD becoming too big to ignore. It'll only be an option once they are the second biggest party. Before that they just don't have enough pressure on the established parties.
Parker Stewart
Lad lets just create a nationalistic party that fools commies by claiming to be a socialist workers party
Germans will vote for stability, and therefore the AfD will slip in the polls. Unlucky, lads. Merkel wouldn't favour an election if she was expected to lose.
John Fisher
I read tonight that it's actually really hard to call a new election in Germany. It could take months to get it called. There's time.
Anthony Clark
A national socialist party, if you will.
Owen Thomas
The FDP's migration policy will be much better than what we have now. as is said, we need legislation against mass immigration NOW not in 4 years. be a bit pragmatic now pls.
Charles Kelly
>civey poll 'Adjusted' for accuracy, but still off 3%
Jonathan Johnson
Germans will turn to the CDU and FDP, because they realise that the AfD just makes coalition forming harder. They're fucked.
Elijah Wilson
So do you guys think that Q hinted with his message that the swamp in Germany will be drained too, or was it just a small morale boost?
Sebastian Allen
Agreed. But man I really worry about the future...
John Bennett
M8, the people who vote AfD vote them because of that. They get all the protest and anti establishnent votes. If anything, even more people will now realize that the government is incompetent as fuck. Everybody is shilling against reelections right now, because usually those only help more radical protest parties. Merkel will be the one who is getting the most damage put of all of this.
Asher Rogers
This is fucking terrible and doesn't fix anything. Not based!
