To what extent is this picture truthful? Has Obama actually caused this amount of change?

To what extent is this picture truthful? Has Obama actually caused this amount of change?

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Yes Obama was a good president but he also did a lot of stupid shit

Adding public sector jobs doesn't mean the economy was growing... just that we spent more money to hide how poorly the economy was doing.

get fucked

All Obama did was increase the amount of child trafficking and add about 10 trillion to our debt. Fuck Obama, he is sub-human garbage.

Also, Dow Jones is only 30 companies and it added a bunch of high priced stocks like Visa, Goldman Sachs, and Apple during Obama's tenure. It didn't really "triple" because of growth, either.

explain in your own words how did the debt went up under Obama

You realize if there's a deficit, the national debt went up, right?

explain

Maybe he created a bunch of soyboy bug-tier wagecuck jobs, but for the common man in "flyover country", he destroyed their jobs.

ok now compare the size of Obama's year 1 deficit to any year prior. you only need to eyeball the chart to see that his year 1 was at least double the size of any year previous to his administration. when you balloon the deficit to an unprecedented level, it's not saying much when you're responsible for the "fastest deficit decline over a sustained period since WW II"

fucking stupid

>spoonfeed me the difference between debt and deficit
Learn to do you own research you fucking imbecile.

OP clearly is either in high school, or worse, and should be banned for being underaged.

At least he helped fuck everything up so bad that bitcoin was created and now many of us libertarians are loaded.

I know that "tripled the stock market" is full of shit

All Yellen did was take freshly minted money and buy shit bonds and equities with it all while dropping the interest rate to 0 until all the problems post 2007 "miraculously" vanished.

It's not a "robust" recovery, it's a scripted, tepid incline underneath a shit ton of worthless paper.

>Good President
>Made many Stupid Decisions....

Pick one

BTW No he was not a good president....

This is Spin

>Added 10 Trillion in debt
>Let ISIS and Refugee Crisis Happen
>Slowest Economic Growth since the Great Depression
>Wages never grew
>Food Stamps and welfare at highest levels
>Cultural destruction of the west
>Promotion of Islam
>Massive regulations
>Obamacare

He was a shit president

...

>Obama created 14 million jobs

Damn.... He personally created 14 million jobs for this country.... Woah.....

destroyed race relations
probably responsible in part for Trump getting elected honestly

Obama took office when the economy could not have been in worse condition.

This is kind of like taking credit for flowers blossoming just because you took office before spring.

The deficit dropped from 1.4 trillion to 500 billion. This chart is more gov propaganda and bullshit. It looks like progress but its just an illusion. Notice it does not show 2016 or the actual total because then this chart would be BTFO


thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

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Lol, reducing a deficit is like feathering the breaks, its slows you down but the car is still moving forward, debt is still climbing but at a slower rate

>muh Ray Gun
Not really a good comparison for govt. spending considering the R&D and general govt. spending costs for the Cold War, proxy wars and space lasers arent cheap
>reduced deficit
Oh good we are spending less of what we dont have, he still doubled the fucking debt
>job growth
McJobs combined with Obamacare gutting people's hours didnt lead to anything good. Having to have two jobs to pay for what one used to may mean there are now two jobs but you are still fucked.

Barry Sootoro didn't create any "jobs" with all the stat tricks the amneic bastard was avergaing post adjustment because of admitted bs 100k including counting part time a month "jobs" in reality the dumb nigger had a n average of 1million jobs lost amonth based on 1980's Bureau of Labor Stats standards. comparison in one month in 1983 Reagan created with his massive pro growtgh tax cuts 1.5 MILLION in one month in fact in 8 years Reagan created 40 million jobs in the 80's 2/3rd of which were high middle class paying jobs 50%+ prodcuer economy jobs manufacturing, farming, oil fields etc. Barry Soetoro in his pathetic terrorist assault of ZIRF, taxes, regs, and Hellcare destroyed 200 million jobs reducing living standards by 90% and making everything not just hellcare unaffordable to damn near everyone. Pathetic

>literally just redefine the definition of unemployment to exclude voluntary NEETS and people who are so hopeless that they've simply given up on looking for work
>unemployment goes """""down""""" by millions while actually remaining exactly the same
BASED black man!

Obama doubled the debt.

all that debt caused by republicans crashing the economy to give wealth to the rich... kill yourself and your family please.

way to fall for the "left vs right" trap user. sigh

They're both neoliberals. Media hype cosmetic differences because it's easier to lord over a divided populace.

Fabricated the year that "happened" the National bedt increased over 1 trillion, then did the SAME THE NEXT year, lying and made up phony staistics using Enron like accounting =Soetoro and company, fact the Deficit ballooned to over 1 trillion because the imbecile and its not gone under 1 trillion since they stopped counting their fraud T Bills two Central (((banks))) illegally inclduing the fed and BOJ purchased 300 billion in TBills just one month through Nethlerlands shell accounts, guess what that same month the liar in chief and his underling got caught not adding it officially and law requires to the national Debt, and they still claime dit was OVER 1 TRILLION FOR THAT year...You clearly are incompetent and have no idea just how laughable the fraud was for 8 years, hell really 30 but the stat fraud in the BLS was so blatant everyone was exposing it including the Pew research center, are you retarded fucknut?

January 2009 Labor Force Participation: 65.7%
January 2017 Labor Force Participation: 62.9%

January 2009 Labor Force Size: 154.2 million
January 2017 Labor Force Size: 159.7 million

January 2009 Total Working: 101.3 million
January 2017 Total Working: 100.4 million

Total loss of jobs during Obama term: ~ 1 million.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

the bernie left would save this country. every day I hope the left gets into power and starts exterminating republicans.

>being this delusional

funny how your stats start at 2009.... smart people see right through you faggot

Impying literally throwing money at the economy wont eventually have a bounce back effect.

It's like using supergule to seal a wound and never treating it after the fact.

January 2009 to January 2017 was the dates of the Obama presidency.

If you inject any economy with several trillion dollars, no fucking shit it will start doing well. The problem is those dollars are now a debt with interest.

A bandaid on a bullet wound.

Before Obama if you Did It have a job you were unemployed. Now you are only unemployed if you are are receiving unemployment insurance.

you cant really be this stupid.... can you? You probably believe that Trump was responsible for the economy doing well the moment he stepped into office. lmao.

zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-22/fake-jobs-plague-us-economy
zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-11/real-unemployment-rate-more-double-official-number-clsa-finds

zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-03/93-all-jobs-created-2008-were-added-through-birthdeath-model

zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-07/amazing-math-bls-how-america-added-17-million-jobs-7-years-and-zero-full-time-jobs

BBarry Soetoro's lying ass removed the 300k MINIMUM NUMBER OF ADJUSTED jobs needed to be created per month to keep the UE RATE the SAME, which means cosnidering the faggot double the illegals and "legals" invading the country (conservative estimate its really 3-4 times as many) just based on that alone the fabricated part time datat and the imaginary birth death model hoax jobs 1 million jobs were lost each month under his reign of terror

Barry Soeotor's 200 milion jobless "economy" BTFO

And this chart doesn't tell half the story it was actually far far worse

>doubled the debt
>reduced annual deficit he inherited by a trillion dollars in 6 years
hmmmmmm

iirc, in 2009 the budget was done by Bush administration

He decreased the deficit from the huge amount Bush was spending after the gfc. He doubled the debt though and produced anaemic growth with interest rates at basically zero

hmmmmmmmmmmm he still doubled the debt nigger

If you have an actual refutation of the fact that under Obama the economy lost 1 million jobs, even while the number of able workers increased 5.5 million jobs, then do explain. Those are the simple facts.

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Ray Gun tripled the debt. But i don't see any cuckservative here saying that.

You mean he took you from 11 trillion to 20 trillion public debt and the inflation hit the stock market first ?

Wow what a genius.

More number less value is good ... amirite ?

I love Obama now.

Fake stats, the labor force increased from retirees having to enter back into the workforce and 20 million news working age foreigners()conservative estimate) based on those two things and the bs stats we have 350million to 380 million prople in this country 300-320 million that need employment because of Soetoro's war on the elderly white person as a result if you look at real(not the fake tax recipt total the IRS started inflating with made up recipts) only 40 million people filed at the end of 2016 many of those same perosn two part time jobs off and on etc. throughout the year thats a 90% unemployment rate, elderly, young, disabled hardest hit. Barry Soetoro did this to the Americna economy

yes they are.. very simple, propaganda simple some might say

>14 million jobs in 70 months
lmao, Trump has already created half that in 10 months
Leafs will defend this

>To what extent is this picture truthful? Has Obama actually caused this amount of change?
president Obama was the president during that time period. He also started his presidency in the worst economy since the great depression. there was almost no place to go but up. THat being said he was successful in not going down.

With regards to job growth and economic growth, you can't really say he did that, any more than Janet Yellen or Ben Bernanke. Quite the opposite really.
As far as deficit decrease, that would most likely be the obstructionist republican congress.. take a look at when the deficit decreased, it was after the republicans retook congress.

So, not able to refute the actual government statistics on the matter, which entirely refute the whole "muh 17 million jobs" myth? Ok then, move along.

>this was done in the 1940s
THANKS OBAMER

They've also been keeping the inflation figures low so they don't have to pay social security recipients more

>Jewish intellectuals. LMAO

My do deficits only matter when Dems are in office?

did you go to the Tucker Carlson school of journalism or something?

The stock market tripled after the mark-to-market rule change that allowed companies to cook their books. He legalized fraud. Also the Fed has kept rates at near zero. Raise it just a little and it would all come crashing down.

>republicans always accelerating debt
>democrats always leveling it off
huh

If that means addressing the actual argument in the original post, and entirely dispelling it with actual facts, perhaps I did. Again, if you have a real refutation of the facts, then please post them. You trying to divert and throw ad-homs is just pathetic and embarrassing.

Actually he was you fucktard , it literally went up because he is an unabashed capitalist and not a commie piece of trash like Obama. Investors know it's a good time to put money back into the market because he's in office. Incase you dont believe me money only has value because we 'believe' it does, market works the same way by and large. Why do you think if there's 'uncertainty' in the market everyone pulls out and stocks plunge?

>>Inb4 the ad hominem (you) because you can't refute my argument you libshit commie nigger

i did refute you, you think that somehow those numbers were caused by obama and not bush. you are a retard

Oh, but he probably helped create a few hundred thousand diversity VP and professional activist jobs.

The claim was made in the OP that 14 million jobs were created under Obama. I showed that 1 million jobs were actually lost. You haven't refuted this at all. Still waiting, pumpkin.

Hi Piers Morgan

Why are we still talking about Obama?


If Deficit is the same as the national debt then see here:

businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-added-under-president-barack-obama-2017-1


>tripled the stock market!

By inflating it's value away. He inflated away significant wealth from the middle and lower classes. He also started in two thousand and fucking eight, the market had nowhere to go but up.

time.com/money/4636241/stock-market-investments-presidents-obama/

Can Obama Take the Credit?

Many market observers have pointed out that the stock market’s run under Obama may not have been all or even mostly Obama’s doing.

The 44th president of the United States got a huge assist from the Federal Reserve, which took the unusual position of keeping short-term interest rates near zero for almost the entire duration of Obama’s two terms. The Fed, in fact, only lifted rates two times — for a total of half a percentage point — near the end of the Obama administration.

That unprecedented policy, which was enacted to prevent the economy from slipping into a deflationary spiral in the aftermath of the global financial crisis, was designed to promote risk taking in the economy. Investors who were earning virtually nothing by parking their money in cash or government bonds were forced to plow their money into equities to generate any return to speak of — and that gave the markets a lift.

Alternatively

>businessinsider com/national-debt-deficit-added-under-president-barack-obama-2017-1
unvis.it/businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-added-under-president-barack-obama-2017-1
>time com/money/4636241/stock-market-investments-presidents-obama
unvis.it/time.com/money/4636241/stock-market-investments-presidents-obama

A more pointed question is why do right-wingers stick their fingers in their ears when they hear of Obama’s accomplishments and delude themselves into thinking that he wasn’t a decent president?

Burgerstan prospered in spite of Obama, not because of him

There have only been three other times in history that investors were willing to pay this much for stock earnings — in the years leading up to the Great Depression, right before the Internet bubble in the late 1990s, and just before the financial crisis a decade ago.

That doesn’t necessarily bode well for stocks going forward. Come Jan. 20, though, the stock market won’t be Obama’s problem anymore. That will fall to his successor, President Trump.

...

Because he's a child molesting faggot with a tranny wife who's only goal was to destroy America from the inside?

Why is economy growth viewed as the end all be all of a good leader?

Are there any other priorities?

Debt added in 2001: $133.285 Billion
Debt added in 2002: $420.772 Billion
Debt added in 2003: $554.995 Billion
Debt added in 2004: $595.821 Billion
Debt added in 2005: $553.656 Billion
Debt added in 2006: $574.264 Billion
Debt added in 2007: $500.679 Billion
Debt added in 2008: $1017.071 Billion

Total debt added under Bush presidency: $4.350 Trillion
Average debt added per year: $543.817 Billion

Debt added in 2009: $1885.104 Billion
Debt added in 2010: $1651.794 Billion
Debt added in 2011: $1228.717 Billion
Debt added in 2012: $1275.901 Billion
Debt added in 2013: $671.942 Billion
Debt added in 2014: $1085.887 Billion
Debt added in 2015: $326.546 Billion
Debt added in 2016: $1241.086 Billion

Total debt added under Obama presidency: $9.366 Trillion.
Average debt added per year: $1.17 Trillion

It would be extremely disingenuous to say that Obama "reduced the national deficit", seeing as he started his term and ended his term adding more debt than the final year of Bush, the large spike in debt being due to the TARP bailout program.

The massive increases under Obama, up until 2015, was due to his "Trillion dollar jobs program". Because the Democrat senate refused to bring House budget bills up for a vote, that same program kept on getting the same funds. Trillions to line the pockets of his friends and allies.

>the bernie left would save this country.

The economy decides what kind of life you get to live, ultimately. I.E., do you get to go on bi-annual cruises with your friends and go out for a night on the town every weekend because the economy affords your the luxury or do you toil for 12 hours a day just to survive with your down time amounting to sitting out in a dirt patch with your friends?

how da fuq you find a measurable metric of 'Black Inequality'?

Somehow you think that dumb golf playing homosexual nog was responsible for this...
Presidents are puppets.

i can play your game too

>added a gorillion 20hr/week jobs because of Obamacare..

gg king nigger

kill yourself shill rat

Obama was pretty "moderate" with respect to real issues.
The crazy identity politics is where he failed the nation in my opinion.
Didn't push left on any real issue, just served them up lefty social issues to keep his base happy.

You think you're going to get a correct and truthful answer from Sup Forums? Good fucking luck.

Average black income vs average white income

and how the fuck do they figure he cut the deficit in any respect? It literally DOUBLED under him

>"Moderate" to real issues
>destabilized the middle east to a level bush couldn't dream of
>killed Qudaffi for lulz thus causing rapefugee crisis in Europe
>created and funded ISIS to ruin Syria, Libya and Iraq thus causing the rapefugee crisis
>Got nogs more stirred up than they've ever been
>absolutely destroyed the American healthcare system
>got people arguing about chicks with dicks in bathrooms
>doubled the national debt
>food stamp use at highest rate ever
>part time employment making up most jobs thanks to obamacare
>created a crazy sunni uprising (isis) while simultaneously enabling Iran thus creating essentially WW3 in the middle east
>never resided over one year with 3%+ gdp growth, calls it the new norm.


I'm just tired of typing at this point. The man did everything he could to destroy this county on the dl. Pull your head out of your ass.