Net Neutrality

Do we give a damn about net neutrality?

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check the catalog you fucking shills.

I don’t know how from my phone.

Only commies ever get their titties in a twist over what other people do with their private property.

Google, Kikebook, Netlfix, and a bunch of other information controlling sites are for it. Hell no.

Net neutrality is a corporate liberal idea to continue to monopolize isps instead of letting the free market decide which company lives and dies

So, you want companies to decide what you are and are not allowed access on the Internet?

Maybe, if they kill NN, everyone should stop using the internet.

I'd love net neutrality. The industry is a natural monopoly and should be regulated as a common carrier due to the lack of competition. I hope we get net neutrality passed one day
1) There was no enabling statute. The FCC never had constitutional authority to regulate this through a rulemaking.
2) The regulations were not net neutrality. There was no solid enforcement of the end to end principle. If anything it was a distraction to appease the cable companies and prevent real net neutrality from being discussed by congress.

Better start screencapping nigger
When Sup Forums starts being blocked by ISPs (again, it literally happened before with Verizon) Sup Forums will deny ever supporting a repeal and call anyone who remembers today a shill

I believe this board would have mobilized to protect NN years ago. Where are the oldfags on this issue?

That’s when you stop giving that company your business and look for a company which allows free browsing. The death of these monopolized titans.

Have you actually read the rule? They can do that now. Under the same pretext they occasionally use for torrent sites.

The same company that owns msnbc and CNN is fighting to kill NET Neutrality.

oldfags are obviously pro net neutrality because it literally happened once before and Sup Forums fought the shit out of it.

Next time anyone on fucking r/pol/ uses >muh reddit boogyman
Remember they are a redditor

Remember when AT&T and Verizon blocked Sup Forums? They can easily do that (or severely hamper speeds) if net neutrality regulations are reversed.

Oh wait, you're probably newfags and have no clue what I'm talking about.

Donald Trump is such a piece of shit.

No.

NN is being shilled because if it is gone, silicon valley would actually have to start paying for what they use.

You can call the net neutral when the left stops censoring the right on social media.

NN didnt stop the daily stormer from being blocked.

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>the consumer and provider shouldn’t Come to a mutual agreement about services just like other services

>we should eat the fcc continue to be involved with the internet at fuckignall

>we don’t understand how buisness works and think that isps will do something retarded and insane like raise their prices for no reason or restrict services for no reason

>we don’t know how the market works and if isps continue to act like dicks other services will step in to compete for your dollars

>we need the government to regulate government enforced local monopolies instead of breaking up the isp monopolies in the first place

Kys you shills net neutrality should go

ypi Think enough people would do that? We will be limited by what the majority of internet users will accept. The lowest common denominator.

In one word? No

They didn't block Sup Forums. Sup Forums blocked Sup Forums. Right now, removal of Title 2 is what we need. You don't realize it, but the only reason we have high prices is because of Obama.

Fill out and send, maybe it will help.
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Because the company they hosted with shut them down, not the ISPs, dipshit.

Again the current rule does not prevent data caps.

Where I live there is only one ISP, we're not able to shop around..

Anyone who uses those ((services)) deserves everything they get.

Why dont you start your own ISP? nothing is stopping you

This anti Net-neutrality push looks concentrated..but it makes sense if you understand the BIG picture. I was wondering why a bunch of "Should we ban porn?!?" threads were popping up days prior to this.
All the comments were akin to "Yes, I'd give up my rights due to my lack of self control."
Well now things are starting to make sense.

unv.is/theverge.com/2017/5/4/15539934/spacex-satellite-internet-launch-2019

EVERYONE, WATCH THESE AND ASK QUESTIONS. youtube.com/watch?v=JNruoBxvk2A

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=111&v=GEx_d0SjvS0

They'll tempt you with the blazing fast "5g" bandwidths in these ISP packages, cell towers are going to be built all over the country due to the 400GHz bands, but thier end goal is clear. DONT BE A FOOL.

The net is neutral, but some sites are more neutral than others.

Sup Forums will be blocked like it was before if we let this happen. Sup Forums must take up arms like we did in the past

I don’t see anything wrong with that product offering

What’s he problem?

except comcast

Alternative news sources will be restricted and without them how would you have come to your conclusions?

In europe its probably not a big deal but in America where there are only 2 choices for internet providers, we're fucked.

This. Let’s just go outside.

Don't worry. The government loves money. Eventually the government won't be satisfied with company A's contribution or company B's contribution, then it will go and will turn things upside down once more. Lobbyists could fight it but they're basically talking to a wall. This has all happened before and will again.

In the long run it probably doesn't amount to much of anything.

Regional monopolies on internet service are dying with advances in tech. Before too long this won't even be a conversation. Grants dry up, people move on.

No doubt about it, US internet is complete trash. It needs to be addressed since our demands are growing considerably. Big companies like DishTV, DirecTV, and even cable companies, are wanting to completely get rid of the satellite dish outside in favor of streaming ALL your TV and content through the internet, even offering 4k HD. How many people in the US could even do that?

This might be a tad optimistic. But I think we are going to leave behind the roads we've constructed to confine the internet on/in for airports pretty soon. Internet infrastructure will look completely different soon.

Let's look at it from the other side of things - What if ISPs decided internet gaming shouldn't have any place in the world? Or in other words, isn't a productive use of our time and energy. So they constrict data flow so much you can't play a game online anymore. You bet your ass people would start destroying shit, or some other company would take advantage of another business and their bad decisions.

The backlash would be MASSIVE. At the end of the day, we put food on the table for those people. And not the royal 'we' either.

My point is, this event is insignificant. I think people don't care because they figure the ball is still in their court no matter the outcome. Plus at the end of the day, the internet is still young. As long as it's still being talked about, discussed, etc., nothing is final.

^ This unironically.
Who wants to throw ball?

Nobody on Sup Forums gives a shit if Sup Forums gets blocked. This site is just the propaganda piece, its not the mouth or the brain

Why would they be restricted they are a huge draw

That would be the isp intentionally limiting a big customer base.

Why would they do that

Hi Americans, I know a lot is going on in your country that is being kike'd, but seriously, net neutrality is extremely important. I'm a Dutchfag myself and we have net neutrality by law here. What is going to happen if you lose it is Australian. You will lose all freedom of the internet, which is developed by YOUR TAX MONEY, in favor of undemocratic corporate law. They will decide whether or not you can view a website, they will get unlimited power to censor the internet, and fuck you up to ass to enable access. Free markets are a jewish scam. Capitalism is useless unless their is a baseline performance requirement. We wouldn't have safe cars or airplanes without governmental requirements on cars and airplanes.

Don't get your ass fucked, seriously. For once stop being such stubborn faggots and face the truth: if you let them control your information, you will be forever censored.

I warned you. I fucking warned you stupid faggots.

That's a different issue (name registration being controlled by companies, rather than content neutral). I didn't look into the specific details too much, but they probably could have operated from a static IP rather than going the TOR route.

I'm all for removing the power of domain registration companies to control who can register a domain.

>Sup Forums blocked Sup Forums
lolwut

AT&T and Verizon literally blackholed img.Sup Forums.org and boards.Sup Forums.org.

I know you're too young to have experienced it, but at least google it.

>the only reason we have high prices is because of Obama.
The reason prices are high (they're not even that high, at least for me) is because of lack of competition. Towns/cities idiotically sign exclusive deals with ISPs even though they often fund a large percentage of the infrastructure.

Most people have no choice in their ISP.

I live in a suburban area and my choices are my local cable company (decent speeds) or verizon dsl (1mbps).

Sup Forums came from UNIX culture.

And do what?

No there aren’t

No, but people who are too fucking stupid to actually look at what net neutrality is do.

Propaganda like OP pic causes millions of stupid morons to actually believe that people are taking the internet away from them.

Can someone give me the counter argument? For something shilled so hard for on Reddit makes me think there is a catch.

wrong.

Also this.
The rise of cellular data has created a shitstorm of cheap, shitty, tier 2 internet providers, just like back when everything was dialup. Cellular internet connections are just shite so that's why they aren't more popular.

Here you are my good sir.
savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now

You like net don't you?
How about neutrality?
don't you also like neutrality?
So don't read any fine print. You're getting 2 times the double plus good for free with net neutrality.

When NN ends, we're all going to be in the shitter with premium prices from every ISP. The free market bullshit won't work because in almost every region in the US there are less than 2 choices for internet. The market can't control the ISP's if there are only a few alternatives

But if isps start charging a shittone suddnely they won’t be

Have a (you) for not shilling the talking points.

I mean they'll be less shitty than being price gouged by comparison. They'll still be shitty cellular internet providers.

It all depends on who you want to keep power over the Internet: government or website companies.

Yes that’s why gas costs $13 a gallon


>oh wait...

Net neutrality hurts rich people. It prevents them from getting more rich. So obviously the /pol lackeys are against it.

But on more serious note, it'll be good once the ameritards are blocked by their ISPs from posting here, the quality might go up as the number shit tier tin foil hattery will be reduced.

I honestly find it fucking rich. Those censor-happy faggots at Reddit are somehow in favour of net neutrality but can't even see the hypocrisy of banning speech and content they don't like. Do they honestly think they deserve to have NN? Why should a company respect neutrality when the fucking customers are worse than they are.

Hmmm is it completely private though? If these were free markets I assume not net neutral behavior would be out-competed because it's shitty for the consumer.

thanks

Hmmm. How can we help?

>a website i don't like that exists on the internet wants the internet to stay free and open
>so there must be some scheme going on

This affects everything on the internet, and you deserve to have your hobby destroyed if you can't set aside your hatred to support a universal good.

The left is lying about everything, as usual. 'Net Neutrality' is a misleading and Orwellian phrase. The left is pushing for control of information and suppression of dissent online. That's what this agenda is, they want more government control over the internet, because people are using the internet to subvert the left's bullshit narratives. They know that the free flow of information was key to Trump's victory, so they want to shut it down. Soros is pushing this, and whenever he's behind something you can be certain it's evil.

Current rules don't block data caps (many ISPs already have them).

They just say you can't slow down content from other companies if they don't pay you.

PROTIP: Who are the biggest ISPs in the USA?

#1 is Comcast (owns MSNBC)
#3 is Time Warner Cable (owns CNN)

When net neutrality is gone, what do you think happens to Fox News, Breitbart, etc traffic?

You idiots are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Because the companies that own the isps own mainstream news. They are establishment and tangled up with the government. If they don’t want us to know something they will be able to control that.

Reddit should be one of the companies that gets regulated so its services aren't denied to any group.

comcast gives no fucks about Sup Forums. they have no reason to block. If they do I go.

>The left is lying about everything, as usual.
Have you even read what net neutrality is?

Do you even know how to read?

No.

just launch your own satellite bro

problem solved

Not really angry about that - it just feels like there is a catch somewhere. I really don't think these companies fighting for it are being benevolent.

I work for an outsource for media agency

I just got asked to change a bunch of stuff for some decently old website stuff we did for an unnamed massive telco here

>Changes:
>- Step 3/page 4 – the text “Service provider network”. Can we change this to “Provider’s network”.
>- Step 4/page 5 – we need to remove the word “Service” from “Service Provider” in the roundel – so we are just left with “Provider”.
>- Step 6/frame 7 –We need to remove the word “Service” from “Service Provider” on the mobile phone – so we are just left with “Provider”.
>On the actual *DELETED FOR SECURITY*, we have the words “Service Provider Gateway”. Can we change this to, “Provider’s Gateway”.
>Thanks *DELETED*. Let me know your thoughts.

I've scrubbed this to not get people in deep.

It seems they're now trying to make the legal distinction that what they do is no longer a "service" to you. You are not their customer.

They intend to be seen as simply your Provider, and you their dependent.

Can't wait for Comcast and other liberal providers to start censoring what websites I can or can't access.

Liberals are this fucking retarded.

>ancap
>on Sup Forums
>wants regulation of a message board
wew

You people are shortsighted as hell

What do you think happens when Democrats take control of congress and decide it's time for Europe style hate speech laws? What principles will you stand for, when you ignored them in this instance?

>I really don't think these companies fighting for it are being benevolent.
They aren't, this is just a RARE RARE RARE case of their wants and needs aligning with our wants and needs.

Just because someone supports net neutrality does not mean they are your friend or that you should consider them your friend, it means they have at least one correct opinion and some common fucking sense.

>government involved

>free and open

OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? A THIRD OPTION THAT INVOLVES EFFECTIVE CONSUMER ADVOCACY? CLEARLY YOU'RE A CORPORATE SHILL
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God. you probably live in your moms basement lol praise kek I'm totally OG Sup Forums you guys.

This is correct. It's about censorship.

Vote in the poll. strawpoll.me/14454142/r

>i am 15 and just found out what counterculture is please pay attention to me

Fuck off and die.

I’m not sure what you mean by that? There are hundreds if not thousands of articles about it all over the Internet. I’ve been writing my representatives for over a year trying to block this from happening. Where if you been? You’re asking me to explain it to you?

Sup Forums is far more likely to be blocked by government than by a private ISP. That's a reason to be against more government control of the internet. 'Net Neutrality' is an attempt by the left to get their foot in the door using flowery language and bullshit propaganda. But their real agenda here is to shut down dissent online.

no shit, we've just got the kikes sliding and shilling here, along with the stephen crowder cucks from TD

Being anti-Net neutrality means you are FOR corporate jew overlords.

Why do you support the corporate jew?

rare

don't have social media?

Companies censor wrongthink already, why do I care if some normie has to pay 20 dollars extra to watch the latest season of propaganda on Netflix?

Also, the big companies in silicon valley don't really care about net neutrality.

YouTube's bandwidth bill is $0 because Google owns enough fiber, where they can do trade deals with ISPs, to offset any costs.

And even if that wasn't the case, all YouTube would have to do is let ISPs slow down service and watch the ISPs suffer the consequences from their customers.

ITT: Faggots who like being butt fucked by corporate dick.

Same talking points in the last six million threads.
Conspicuous vomitting of Sup Forums lexicon
What you don't agree with me. Social shaming for you.
If you demand me to prove my bold claims you are clearly a comcast shill.

Since the NN argument has just turned into relentless Trump voter bashing on Twitter and the rest of social media, I have decided to support the removal of NN. This is how it works now. I hate you faggots too much to give a shit about paying extra for internet. I want you people to fucking suffer.

The internet is going to look like cable in two years because you dumb fucks do not realize the republicans scammed every one of you.

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cnet.com/news/at-t-said-to-block-Sup Forums-pranksters-fight-back/

Sup Forums is already dead, it just doesnt know

Archive please

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Yeah, so? If they were for breathing would you be against that too?