Can someone explain to me how lootboxes became such a huge fucking issue that the government has to step in...

Can someone explain to me how lootboxes became such a huge fucking issue that the government has to step in? Fucking look at this shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=_akwfRuL4os

And europe is even worse.

pcgamer.com/belgium-says-loot-boxes-are-gambling-wants-them-banned-in-europe/?

I'm not sure, but I suspekt there are some really angry parents out there.

Pacrooti will go out of business now.

It's literally gambling without regulations. All that sweet-sweet money can't be suckled by the state until they recognize and tax it. If loot boxes could only be earned through in game currency it wouldn't be an issue, but since shekels are involved (((they))) want a piece of the action.

But they want to ban them, not take some money.

Thats a good thing ffs. Maybe gaming companies have to start actually make content to make money and mot fucking monetize everything.

It's gambling.
Gambling create addictions.
Addictions lead to public troubles. People losing jobs, money, trying to steal...
That's why every addiction has a sort of legislation around it.

Ifyou don't understand why a government acts, you're not thinking deeply enough.

Art of the deal, never demand what you actually want to settle at, go for as much as you can and work back to a place you find suitable.

This whole issue seems to have arisen because it's gambling for children. I remember hearing about some guys on Youtube getting fucked because they outright lied to their audience about some loot box gambling site (which they owned, but never revealed).

same exact thing. they know companies will sit down to negotiate and cut them their share rather than abandon the concept.

Loot boxes are absolute shit and have destroyed multiplayer gaming. Why should devs bother making DLC when you can just make some shitty seasonal hats, assign an arbitrary rarity and then get dumbasses to buy it? And that is in the best case where they are 100% cosmetic and not the bullshit that battlefront is pulling.

I lost a lot of respect for Valve when they did this shit with TF2 years ago.

They get to do it because of a legal technicality (it's not gambling if they give you some kind of consolation prize). But it still preys on the same instincts that gets gamblers addicted.

This, loot boxes are terrible.

Normies will never know TAOTD.

Basic gestapo on lootboxes? Is it just like you get some random DLC?

Well they didn't really "need to step in." They're a rip off, and people just need to stop wasting their money on them.

>Government banning shit
>Europe

Thank fucking god

multiplayer games now are all designed around psychologically assaulting the player, making them look at all the cool shit other players have so you'll buy a lootbox
Battlefront 2 even has pay2win stuff inside them

Because it is gambling. This shit has gone on long enough.
And even better if this kills Jewbisoft and JewEA-games.

No, it's locking pieces of DLC into slot machines so you can keep wasting money until you get what you want while hiding, obviously this wouldn't be a problem if it was just normal stuff like cosmetics but they have been getting bolder and bolder hiding actual content behind it like levels, characters, weapons, etc so people are getting tired of this shit

>every addiction has a sort of legislation around it.

Uh ok, what about alcohol addicition? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Porn addition? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gaming addiction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Internet addiction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes. You buy a box for a few dollars and depending on your luck you might get either utter garbage that's worthless or the thing you want. It's basically taking away the option to pay for what you want and give you a chance instead. It's not gambling though since even the most worthless items are still worth a few cents.

this literally killed mmos as genre.

Im still really mad about Pandemic desu
I reckon Bioware probably doesnt have long before EA axes them

kids exposed to gambling at an early age under the disguise of video games

>gestapo
kek

Dont blame EA on Bioware. Bioware cuck itself and destroyed themselves without EAs help.

Yes good goy lets get kids hooked on gambling.

Fuck todays gaming world, it's either some major title that comes in pieces and forces you to pay extra to get the full experience or some no name early access shit that will probably be left unfinished once the hype and sales die down.

Most video game shit these days is gambling.
Lootboxes are spending money for a random chance at getting drops.
MMO raiding is spending time for a random chance at getting drops.
Playing team based multiplayer games is spending sanity for a random chance at having fun.
Same shit, different currency.

>video games aren't allowed to have RNG

Well, that's going to require a massive overhaul of EVERY GAME EVER MADE. So every time I kill a goblin in Final Fantasy, it's legally required to drop a potion?

While I'm 100% against the government getting involved in video games on a normal basis, these things need to be fixed, I still say there are other ways, but I won't lose sleep over this regardless.

its not an anti-rng law, its about the fact that lootboxes are unregulated gambling that is available to children

Also keep in mind that companies go to great lengths to hide the odds for each item, something that they have been sued over.

Gr8 b8 m8

This is actually a really good way of putting it.

It's about lootboxes not about getting a fucking critical strike or not
Lootboxes are things that you BUY with REAL money to get a chance in acquiring in game content

It's not gambling if you're not winning money.

Complaining about lootboxes is the new vaping.

Idc, its a shitty practice and the industries have too much power so it will never go away unless its regulated.

>Dont blame EA

go get raped by a muslim, i will never stop blaming EA games for what they have done

except the things you get in lootboxes can be sold to other players for real money
Just look at the steam marketplace

So, are trading cards illegal? Are those capsule machines that give you little toys illegal? Is the random toy that comes in your cereal box illegal?

Spending time is known as "opportunity cost" in economic lingo.

In other words, there is a higher opportunity cost in playing WoW than there is doing something that you get paid for.

RIP visceral... DS was my favorite series :(

Black market value isn't value in a legal sense.

Cuz Russians use them for laundering since forever.

Sounds basically like MtG card packs. In any case, if it's not refundable I wouldn't exactly call it gambling.

>mfw I see a small studio sign up with a big publisher
>just know their game is gonna get fucked with all the dlc lootbox shit

Shit practices and game by EA.

And people felt inspired to backlash at it just to fuck EA over.

It is gambling. Back when I played video games I bought expansion packs like for bf1942 that had what you pay for. Now you are like paying for a chance to get content. Instead of paying $20 dollars for an expansion pack you are paying $2 for a 5% chance to get that content.

>Dont blame EA
Fuck you!
EAGames did to games what MTV did to music.
EAGames viloated games like History Channel violated history.
Let them all burn!

Why are you going to such logical extremes? The problem here is that you buy the game for full price you expect to get the full game but they lock content behind the loot boxes
You don't have to pay for the chance of spending your 50 cents to get the toy you want from the capsule machine, you just pay the 50 cents and that is it
I don't know if it can be called gambling but I am against it either way, if they stop doing it because of this even if it isn't gambling that is fine to me.

OMG you found exceptions noooooooo what do I now?

Finally, this shit has gone far enough. Children being able to gamble completely unregulated with steam items for real money is sick, same applies to all other sorts of loot boxes it's literally the jew incarnate to allow this.

Eat shit goyim, money rules all!

that cunt reporter definitely wasn't expecting him to have a kid

wow you must be REAL fun at parties

Ah and I forgot to add that things like that in video games open the chance for money laundering and scamming sites like the csgolotto controversy that happened last year

Because its gambling.
I hope we get rid of them so it forces game companies to make a new cash cow item.

Because children are dumb as shit and are very easy to influence, they'll also not know that they're being influenced.

NFS U2 was the last EA game I could stomach.

Yeah I'm not saying it's not shitty, just that it isn't gambling and regulating it as such is balls.

If you're over the age of 16 and play videos you seriously need to kys.

>wah wah wah muh gambling
Why does gambling trigger people so much?

Most of those you have to be of a certain age to purchase it depending on country and/or state.

>internet addiction
do like China

software companies have gotten away with shady shit for a long time

it's like going to a car dealer and not knowing if your car will come equipped with seats and a wheel,

This is literally proof that capitalism must have some regulation. This is proof that the Jews must never be allowed free reign.

Idk ask Steve Paddock

Whatever happened to making a full game that is actually finished and not whoring out for dlc and loot boxes?

no one plays ESO

Libtards and children have very little willpower and have no qualms about wasting thousands no skinner boxes
I have no issue with them really I just want the fuckers to be forced to publish the odds like they did in Chyna and move ratings to 18+ if jews want to add slot machines to their games.

not as profitable for their masters

>Uh ok, what about alcohol addicition? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
gotta be 21
>Porn addition? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
gotta be 18
>Gaming addiction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Internet addiction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
these are just examples of poor self control. isn't the same chemically as the first two

Blame mobile games for spawning this cancer

Don't ban em. Just have the ESRB issue an AO rating for any games containing IRL gambling mechanisms.

The problem is that magics entire business model and game is built around making and selling cards. They don't obfuscate their intentions to sell you cards.

In the case of loot boxes, companies are selling them as add-ons to the game. They should be unnecessary for the full enjoyment of the purchased game. When they become required in order to remain competitive in the game or they become the primary focus of development, that is when enjoyment of the base game is hurt and we run into the problem everyone has with them. There is nothing inherently wrong with them, it is just that as a system they promote bad practices and have the potential to be very anticonsumer. This is the same nonsense they have been pulling with preorder only content, day 1 DLC, etc.

>t. 17 and still plays video games anyway

they already take a piece through VAT here but I think the main point is that it lets kids gamble

>Whatever happened to making a full game that is actually finished and not whoring out for dlc and loot boxes?
fucking this, i tend to play games made before 2012 when I wanna relax. Everything is either a SJW shit fest or a DLC nightmare.

not profitable enough for the jews

You don't see these camps in China anymore since they killed more teens than acceptable.

>internet addiction
Is not what you think it is, at least in China. There were many, many internet "cafes" a few years back.
These were dingy places which had all the newest (pirated) games, places to sleep and snacks for sale.
And drugs. Lots of drugs.
So, the kids went there instead of school, which in turn lead to camps, that were even worse.

>It's literally gambling without regulations
this
you're literally spending real money to have RNG fuck you in the ass for a rare item (cosmetic or not) that has value because it can also be exchanged with other players.
We learned NOTHING from the CS:GO gambling fiasco where skins were essentially used as betting tokens in online casinos

S L I P P E R Y
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>Bunch of Jews use their usual Jewish moral acrobatics to get children hooked on gambling.
Gee I wonder why we need government intervention.

Someone figured out that people are retarded enough to buy games regardless of how unpolished they are and that even more people are retarded enough to pay for "dlcs" with stuff that you cut out of the finished game before release. The ability to patch games to a later date also gave developers the amazing ability to sell beta teste to people for the full price.

NUmales and retarded millenials. I mean i play vidya myself ,but what amount of soy does one need to consume to really fucking care about retards getting ripped off when buying Call of corporate warfare 43

Playing without loot boxes in glorious sunrise nation.

Gambling is highly addictive to certain people. Those people may also commit crime when they're broke from gambling all their paycheck away, the same day they get it (I've seen this happen). This is partly why it needs to be regulated. The games are rigged, the house needs to win more than they lose on average or they go out of business. My 2c.

>industry capitalizes on consumer base of manchildren with poor judgement and no self control
more news at 11...

Would love it if this were to come true.
This random loot fo cash has always been annoying me in games.
Never payed a dime for things like this, because it's just plain stupid.

To be honest mental addiction is even worse than chemical. But the people who can get addicted to games or the internet would find something else to get addicted to, they are just weak willed, that's it.

That’s an insult to gambling. When you gamble you have a small chance of coming out ahead. Lootboxes are charging stupid people for 1s and 0s.

> Be EA, greedy kikes with no integrity
> See lootboxes with only skins works with blizzard. Blizzard actually releases maps and fun gametypes for each season
> EA rubs it's hands together. Day 1 dlc, season passes and a postbox system that hides all the weapons and hero's that are the main feature of the game behind a lottery. You get to choose spend 40 hours without a hero, a major component of the game. Or pay 10 shekels more for lootboxes that might not even have it.

> oy veyy how is this gambling?

this ,let the retards pay. If one is dumb enough to buy this shit ,he deserves to be riped off

Best outcome would be: no actual laws are put in place, but the public outrage is enough to end this

This suggests your ignorance of lootboxes. A lot of games with a lootbox system also have a real money trading network run by users and scammers.

Probably because its easier to ban than creating a new tax. If they don't get their cut, then no one does. I fucking hate (((government)))

It’s not gambling. It’s worse. Gambling has a chance of payout.

>Belgium
there it is again... what is this place? Sounds like a non-country to me.
Who gives a shit about what "Belgium" says about anything? Fuck loot boxes and fuck Belgium

Because star wars fans these days are entitled children not above whining that they have to earn things in a video game.

Every online game employs skinner box methods. Nobody cares.