Coming soon to an ISP near you.
Your prices stay the same and you have to buy "power packs" like a fucking video game to get access to other services.
Coming soon to an ISP near you
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Joshua Brooks
No it's not you massive faggot. Reddit is waiting for you to return
Jason Collins
So instead of having to pay $50 per month for all the faggots sucking up all the bandwidth with Netflix, I just pay $5 and I only get the shit I need?
Sounds like a pretty sick deal.
Gavin Bell
All of those major corporations make money off of visitor traffic. Why would they allow another corporation to throttle their livelihood? You didn't think this through, did you?
Jaxson Rogers
You pay for base data.
Then you pay for access/data to other services.
Your prices will stay the same as long as you stick to media created by your ISP (think MSNBC for Comcast)
Ethan Turner
How do you think their visitors visit their site?
You didn't think this through, did you?
Andrew Russell
This would actually be better than what I have now. 15€/month would be preferable to the $60/month I pay
Logan Morgan
>Your prices stay the same
>AND you have to buy "power packs" like a fucking video game to get access to other services.
Austin Harris
>twitch isn't 9000 euros a month
pls kill twitch pls kill twitch
Christopher Gomez
No.
Here's what's going to happen.
I'll pay $20 instead of 50 because I won't be paying for the Netflix package.
I'll still get internet just the same as I do now except I won't be getting Netflix which doesn't matter because I don't use that pussy shit anyway, and I won't have to pay for your bandwidth.
Your Netflix subscription will triple because your 4KHD movies are sucking up all the data. In other words, you'll be paying for your own data.
I win.
Carter Rivera
Thats a literal phone cell plan you fucking fearmongering redditor faggot
Carson Walker
thats not what happens you fucking shill
Ayden Perry
If it does, then I’ll go with the smarter ISP which offers me a more competitive deal.
Benjamin Bennett
If you honestly believe all of those major, multibillion dollar corporations are going to let ISPs block their revenue, you have no idea how this world works. They will lobby to hell and back in order to keep free access to their sites.
Evan Hall
God, I fucking hope so. Imagine all of the butthurt high schoolers who can't watch their favorite homosexual video game player any more because their parents won't pay for the extra pack.
I'm 100% in favor of this scenario.
Elijah Bailey
That's not how the service works.
You pay for base access (say $50/month)
Then on top of that you pay for additional data/speed/access to other services.
I guess reading comprehension isn't Sup Forums's strong suit.
Luis Gutierrez
Serious question, What's to stop people just hiding and encrypting their internet traffic?
Also god speed mates. It's criminal anything like this is even being thought about to begin with.
Nolan Diaz
Sup Forums will either be throttled to the point of uselessness or you'll have to pay extra for it
Because there's so much competition for ISPs, amirite
Ayden White
when this actually starts happening I am going to purchase a SSL/TLS vpn that operates on TCP port 443 to another country and skirt all of the restrictions by having all of my traffic masked as normal https traffic
Brody Walker
>no cock.li email listed
am i in the clear then?
Jackson Green
no, it won't go down like that. It will happen slowly and more subtlety. ISP's will start making deals with companies like Hulu, or Netflix to offer things like 4k streaming exclusively to one of them. They'll use their position of ownership over the last mile to play off competing companies against each other and get free $$$.
Ian Evans
>You pay for base access
No I don't.
50% of the data provided by your ISP is Netflix. The people who don't watch Netflix get fucked over because they have to pay for a service they don't use. The prices go up all the time because of Netflix.
Eliminating NN fixes that problem.
Fuck you.
Ian Gray
t. "I've never dealt with anything but socialism so nothing else exists" cuck
Gabriel Jackson
>If it does, then I’ll go with the smarter ISP which offers me a more competitive deal.
lol how many service providers do you have in your area user? I live in the capitol city of California and my only choice is comcast fagfinity
Nathaniel Green
>Sup Forums will be throttled
Yeah, look at all the bandwidth that Sup Forums takes up! Oh wait...
Shut the fuck up you faggot nutcase. Your doomsday bullshit may work on Reddit, but not here.
Samuel Baker
The main problem with that image is they offer 10GB on each package, for the same price. If the data cap varied to an appropriate limit/price, then there would be no problem.
10GB on video would go pretty quickly, while you'd have a hard time using it all for email.
Nolan Williams
Most areas have 1 or 2 ISPs. Do you really think there won't be collusion?
Easton Morgan
A couple things.
They could block DNS servers outside of their control by blocking port 53 except to their servers. That would be enough to block most people.
If they wanted to get really draconian, they could simply block ports besides 80/443 unless you pay to unlock them. The SMTP port is already blocked for spam prevention, so it's technically feasible.
Some people could probably get around it (just look at internet in China), but that would capture the vast majority of their customer base.
Which would kill alternative sites like Sup Forums.
Ethan Myers
This is 100% true
Henry Reed
yes goy, pay extra tomorrow for the packages you were getting for free today
Owen Jones
Why didn't they do this for the decades there wasn't Net Neutrality? Fucking reddi-it scum.
Christopher Cooper
>Netflix
>free
boi
James Wright
because streaming wasnt nearly as popular and internet penetration numbers were much lower
Michael Cox
>implying Sup Forums needs burgers to survive
Levi Long
>REDDIT
>SPACING
Joseph Cook
yes goy, pay not only for netflix, but the ability to stream it as well... next we will charge extra if you want audio/video for your netflix (each will be a separate charge, of course)
Cooper Walker
>I'll pay $20 instead of 50 because I won't be paying for the Netflix package.
You honestly believe these companies will lower your prices and not fuck you over?
Protip: Cable television promised not to show ads if you paid for cable. Now they charge you to watch ads and it costs more.
Aaron Rivera
The cost of filtering traffic effectively would exceed the benefit of having such limited services.
Colton Lewis
Hahahaha fucking hell nigga, you think they'll lower the base package prices?
Justin Howard
Its because OP pic is for addons to a Euro cell phone data plan, hes just baiting like a fag or just completely stupid
Adam Kelly
it's a pipe. It doesn't matter what the data is that's flowing through it. If you use your bandwidth to watch an hour of cuck porn every day it doesn't mean that everyone else is getting screwed for not using that service.
Xavier Butler
Who could be posting these everywhere?
Nolan Moore
user YOU'RE NOT A BURGER. YOU DON'T TO WORRY ABOUT THIS SHIT
Easton Gonzalez
They'll have to because if they don't I'll switch to another company.
Luckily I don't watch Netflix so nothing you said will affect me.
Jonathan Hall
>thinks a company able to charge for access to any internet content will charge her less for content
Isaiah Powell
Wait what was life like before 2015 when this didnt exist?
Gabriel Martinez
>Sup Forums not in the categories
I've got nothing to worry about
Owen Rogers
2015 wasn't that long ago.
Kevin Jenkins
>They'll have to because if they don't I'll switch to another company.
but the ISP's already have a monopoly in nearly every local municipality here in the states. I live in the capitol of California and my only ISP were i live is comcast fagfinity.
Only way I can ''switch providers'' is if a buy a cell phone with unlimited data and start a hot spot
Colton Price
fuck off KIKE
Net Neutrality has only been around for 2 years, internet was just fucking fine before it.
Xavier Garcia
It's in the "wrongthink" category along with Breitbart and Infowars, limiting it to 56kbps speeds.
Jaxson Bailey
The companies deciding to raise their prices is a completely unrelated issue. They'll raise their prices with or without NN. At least with NN I don't have to pay for anyone else's bandwidth.
Grayson Robinson
>tfw don't care because don't use social media and only come here occasionally to shit post
KEK NORMIES BTFO
Luis Torres
and in 2015 verizon started to throttle people who were streaming and got sued and thats what got internet reclassified as a title II service to begin with... literally because ISP's tried to do exactly this
Charles Reyes
Good. Make those normie faggots pay for the trash they consume. Maybe the internet will be less populated by retards.
Juan Bennett
Sorry for your predicament. I, too, live in the Excremento metro area. I had at&t before and it worked pretty good. Also, as an electrician I have installed low voltage setups for SBC fiber connections on residential houses before. Mainly like Arden Arcade and in the Pocket. The gated pocket, not Greenhaven.
Thomas Richardson
I know. I just think it's interesting that the EU does have NN in place, but ISPs still dodge it regardless. I'd imagine that same cap/price is a result of not being able to dodge it fully.
Like with my mobile provider, I can get 15GB data for the month, with unlimited youtube, etc. It's not following NN either, but it's "free" so noone complains.
Grayson Barnes
Literally this.
Kevin Price
>I guess reading comprehension isn't Sup Forums's strong suit.
Well yeah now that you’re here
Connor Watson
They'll pay more for bandwidth use, you fucking retards. In top of that they'll be more consumer friendly instead if being raging censorship cucks because they'll need every nazi dollar.
Easton Bennett
They will just raise prices you stupid fucking faggot, net neutrality is internet communism. You pay more $$$ cause some faggot streams videos 24/7. I'd rather a personalized package
Nathan Scott
B-but nothing was censored before! Thats because Verizon wasnt able to openly be asses about doing it.
The FCC had a rule that got challenged in court by Verizon in 2010 that PREVENTED ISPs from THROTTLEING OR BLOCKING WEBSITES.
Verizon won the case, only on the margins that telecommunications services needed to be reclassified as a utility (Title II) in order for a rule like that to be upheld.
This led to the massive NN debate that got us the rules in 2015.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Also:
Comcast Corp. v. FCC 2007
In 2007, Free Prenss, Public Knowledge, and the FCC filed a complaint against Comcast's Internet service. Several subscribers complained/(and)The Commission believed that Comcast had "significantly impeded consumers' ability to access the content and use the applications of their choice"--Comcast complied with this Order but petitioned for a review and PRESENTED SEVERAL OBJECTIONS-in 2008, Comcast amended their Acceptable Usage Policy and announced a new bandwidth-throttling plan.
ISPs have slowly over the years been eating away at laws that protect against throttling and them not being able to control what content you see.
You fools need to realize corporations only care about their own interest
In surveys by the American Customer Satisfaction Index, XFINITY has had the lowest customer satisfaction ranking of any company or government in the U.S. for year-XFINITY’s online forums are full of pages of customers complaining of throttling, especially on upstream speeds.
Time Warner Cable has come under fire for throttling YouTube videos, an issue they defended by explaining video buffering is “the way the Internet works.
Cox has a history of throttling their Internet during congested periods. In the past, they have also set usage limits on broadband accounts, granting more usage to customers who pay for upgraded service.
cabletv.com/blog/your-objective-guide-to-internet-throttling/
Elijah Kelly
>tfw i have to start paying extra to access an Indonesian button weaving message board
Ayden Long
>I'll switch to another company.
>implying you can do that in many areas of the US
Matthew Rivera
So electricity and telephones are communism?
John Perry
>this fucking meme image again
Logan Howard
Well I can. Maybe you can't but I don't give a fuck about you nigger XD
Aaron Hernandez
Didn't these regulations only come about in 2015? Everything seem pretty good considering before that.
Joshua Lee
Electricity is metered. It does not cost me more when my neighbor uses insane amounts of electricity.
Net neutrality means that I pay high prices for internet because some faggot with no life streams videos and plays games 24/7.
Logan James
If the internet becomes unbearably shitty it will be a net positive for society
Henry Howard
so i can pay nothing and get the entire internet, except for those services, for free? woahhhhhhhh
Carter Morgan
>Net neutrality means that I pay high prices for internet because some faggot with no life streams videos and plays games 24/7.
you are uneducated on this subject.
net neutrality literally means having internet be classified as a title II common carrier, such as telephones are
Brody Russell
The regulations came about because ISP's tried to fuck you over..
How are burgers this uneducated about their own country.
Tyler Bennett
>when this actually starts happening I am going to purchase a SSL/TLS vpn that operates on TCP port 443 to another country and skirt all of the restrictions by having all of my traffic masked as normal https traffic
..y...yeah! take that!
Jordan Lee
plenty of companies throttle people off for using too much bandwidth. That's got nothing to do with NN.
Evan Garcia
They already have tiers
Parker Gutierrez
>Didn't these regulations only come about in 2015?
see ISP's tried throttling access to things once already and were sued over it which is how we wound up classifying internet as a title II common carrier service to begin with
Bentley Nelson
Fuck that, sounds like a god damned cable package, fuck them.
Jaxon Perez
>I paid for a happy meal and got a free toy with it!
No you paid for the happy meal and the toy.
Nicholas Sullivan
Also Verizon and Comcast didn't own anywhere near as much infrastructure as they do now.
Previously many smaller companies owned enough of the internet backbone such that if they tried this shit, people would just go with someone cheaper.
Now in there's no practical way to rout around them.
Just like, imagine if Comcast was the only provider you could get and they made you pay a shitload fo- oh wait.
Lincoln Ortiz
What he said is still true.
Christopher Diaz
Coming to an ISP near you, not me. Americucks are such push overs.
Brandon Gonzalez
Seems like some textbook post hoc confabulation to me
Nolan Lee
You stupid fucking faggot...now why would they want to do that? So ISPs can charge you more to watch Netflix? Fuckin idiot. That means ISP raise prices on everyone, now I am subsidizing your fuckn internet. I swear to god I would slap the fuck out of you if I could.
Jace Hernandez
t. canacuck who can't do 5 minutes of research
Jason White
I have free unlimited access to a vpn I helped developed, so I never noticed.
Jaxon Martin
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Connor Wilson
>CNN goes out of business cause noone wants them
wtf I love net neutrality now
Joseph Robinson
holy fuck. you purchase the same service as someone else and now you are subsidizing their service?
however the fuck you want to look at it, whatever, thats just a pretty retarded outlook cuz it means im subsidizing your service too you fucking cheap skate
Elijah Reed
No shitbrain, now everything is on demand ad free and people get to watch 2 seasons of a show in a day rather than wait by the tv at 8:30 every Thursday night for their favorite show
Jack Hernandez
you're thinking ISPs have enough time to categorize the entire internet into tiers?
Julian Bennett
they will do it if it means profit.
literally all it takes is an algorithm
Wyatt Foster
Levi Gonzalez
see
Zachary Allen
If your internet habits cause the price of your neighbors internet to increase, they are subsidizing your internet, it is a one way street, you fuckn stupid faggot
Jaxson Scott
>it was never a problem before!!!111
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Jeremiah Lee
Hahaha, no this means like OP said you get 'basic cable' with their services. Now they consider their band with money just like with wireless, so you will pay extra for usage outside of their network, or your 'package'.
Connor Morales
And here's the archive
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Logan Green
>you get 'basic cable' with their services
Good. That means I'll be paying less.
Anything else you'd like to address?
Chase Scott
then why not charge per GB?