TGSNT

Okay guys I have been watching this recommended documentary now for about 2 and a half hours.
I'm not quite sure what to think of it. I'm amazed at some of the things I've never heard of before or that which was kept from me growing up.
But how much of this is credible? Is this just some sympathetic pro-axis video? Or is it actually true? What do you guys think?

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hitler did nothing wrong

Take it with a huge grain of salt, it's nice to get the flip side propaganda but that's what it is, the other sides propaganda.

You need both sides & some unbias shit to get a clear picture of events, may I suggest David Icke & Alex Jones next kind user?

But why? I want an actual concrete discussion about this subject. I'm so confused about how I feel towards the National Socialists.

Can't vouch for that docu in particular, but I know Europa TV is pretty solid and very detailed.

Alex Jones from what I understand is a living meme. I used to watch infowars for a long time and I just can't stand them anymore.

I’m starting to watch it now!

I'll check it out. I'm currently subscribed to Red Ice TV and I like them a lot.

>ooga booga hitler dindu nuffin

Propaganda is still propaganda even if it’s right wing. Don’t be so dense.

I never said Hitler did nothing wrong. I just want to have a civilized conversation about the subject.

It's true. I can't vouch for 100%, but if you do your own research afterwards or check any of the sources the creator used, they are credible. I recommend you look into things yourself to get the full picture.

The only thing that seemed dubious to me is the crimes that Poland supposedly committed against the ethnic Germans living in Danzig and the Corridor. Hitler was definitely in the right that those territories should have been owned by Germany because they were around 80% German and the only reason they weren't was because Jews betrayed Germany and wanted to permanently weaken them. Hitler was right to go into war because Poland refused to even negotiate. But I am not sure if the Poles were actively killing the Germans in those regions at the time (They definately did in 1945 though).

Yea I looked up the Danzig massacre and could not find anything about it except for a poorly written article on stormfront or some other skinhead site.

From what I've read there may have been polish rebel communists and anarchists that killed some Germans. But they were not actual representatives of the Polish state. In any case I doubt there was an actual state sanctioned genocide against Germans in Poland, but those areas in the Corridor did rightfully belong to Germany so I don't think Hitler was completely in the wrong for invading Poland like you are supposed to believe.

In the documentary it said that polish have always had a long time hatred for Germans. Supposedly, polish general's drew up battle lines before the September 1st invasion and Hitler tried negotiating multiple times but with no success.

funny that you say:
>I doubt there was an actual state sanctioned genocide against Germans in Poland
when the result of WW2 was exactly the genocide of Germans in Poland (former Germany).

Yeah that's what happened all across Europe after WW2 but I mean in 1939. Even normies know that Soviets raped german women and tons of Germans were killed and deported in Eastern Europe.

What happened exactly? Was it after WWII?

I like to consider how Hitler will be viewed in 50 years, I imagine it will be the opposite of now. Hopefully sort of like a William Wallace figure. Wishful thinking I suppose. The documentary is almost entirely true, in some parts their bias is shown, but other than that it truly is the greatest story never told.

Keep watching, it will cover that.

Half of modern day Poland used to be German. Many major cities were lost like Konigsberg (Kalningrad), Danzig (Gdansk), Stettin (Szczecin), Breslau (Wroclaw). There used to be huge populations of Germans in the Baltic, Hungary, Romania, Ukraine, and Russia. After the fall of Berlin in 1945, the Soviets ethnically cleansed all of eastern europe of the Germans. Including raping countless women and sending men to the gulags.

Why should I watch it? What new info is in it?

To be fair those regions (baltic, Ukarine, etc.) weren't originally German, however, no one really is native to anywhere anymore. Land is gained through conquest and war I suppose.

What new info is in it? Why should I watch it?

I'm still watching it and I paused at the part about zyclon b being used to delouse and not to gas.
Now this is where I start to ponder: why is there no evidence of gas inhalation related deaths from the supposed 6 million? I know that most of the jews died because of a typhus epidemic and from being starved to death due to allied bombing.
But were there actually movie theatres and soccer teams and little stores with in camp currency? I can't find any credible evidence other than the documentary that this is true.

It is just a huge mind fuck.
Everything we've been taught to believe is not so clear anymore. It's truly a mind fuck documentary.

I agree. I don't think Germany has any claim to any of those regions, besides maybe areas like Pomerania and Prussia which had been German for nearly a millennium. All the other areas I mentioned they were not the majority population in. Though I don't think anyone really cares that much anymore, it's not the Poles or Russians fault that Germany lost their territory it was the (((Soviet Union))).

I believe one of the pieces of evidence for the claims about the camps is the allied photographs taken while flying over the camps. I'll see if I can find them.

with the recent Russian government report released saying that basically Poland caused WW2 by not giving into Germany's reasonable demands after obtaining guarantees of military defense from the UK & France. I'd say it's a pretty good chance that those events did happen

Please do!

I like alex jones, i get uncomfortable when he jews his products but i get it. But i can only watch so much before i gotta lay off it for awhile

youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ
Here is another good video you can watch after, specifically about why Auschwitz had no gas chambers, I have redpilled many friends with this.

If you look at statistics of world Jewish population, they are basically the exact same before and after WW2. The real number for Jews that died is probably somewhere between 100,000 to 200,000 from disease and starvation.

One of the things I find weird about infowars is that they never ever ever bring up Israel or Jewish influence on western culture. I see the comments on the videos of people calling out infowars for never acknowledging it.

That's really interesting. Can you post a link to the report? I know that there was a lot of pre-war polish propaganda posters that were promoting a war with Germany and conquest of Berlin, so I don't doubt that they were trying to provoke Hitler into declaring war.

Jesus what happened in 1948-50? They just stop breeding or something?

Thanks man I'll add it to the list!

One thing not covered in the documentary is the Nazi forced steriIization program of supposedly 400,000 people.

Eugenics was popular in Germany and around the world as a progressive economic measure even before the Nazis. At that time California was the pioneer in eugenics sterilization, actually laying groundwork for Germany's efficiency.

After the war eugenics was said to have fallen from favor but the US was still sterilizing people against their will into the 1980s but total numbers are still much lower than the Nazis achieved in only a few years.

Hitler was a Kung Fu Master before being a Kung Fu Master was cool!

This.
Poland was pressured by the UK and France to not give in. Hitler made GENEROUS concessions to reclaim the corridor, a piece of land you could walk across on foot in a day, all so Germany couldn't be extorted by freight taxes when trains ran through the Polish corridor.

Poles started the war. The Third Reich offered retarded compensation for the corridor and Poland just continued to harass German citizens within it's domain.

youtube.com/watch?v=NRxCuujxJSY&t=6760s&list=LL3J4H9fap9Dfvlxnwwxxc7g&index=28

Here's 4 hours worth of holohoax debunking. All you can do is watch and decide for yourself. The guy does a very thorough job of debunking many of the ridiculous claims made by 'survivors', who were in reality storytellers. Their biggest mistakes were making claims that are easily testable such as burning bodies on an open grill (can't do it). He does demonstrations with sides of beef. watch it.

The Holocaust wasn't fabricated until a little while after the fall of Berlin. None of the allied military leaders ever record coming across an extermination camp or any policy of holocaust. All of the actual "extermination camps" were discovered by Soviet Jews, and I can only assume they were actually used to exterminate Germans (Look into this, many so-called Nazi war crimes were actually committed by the Soviets).

well if you ask me - Poles started the second world war. they wanted to get rid of the old Germans in their newly won territory. Hitler saw this and acted in order to protect them after the Poles didn't want to go down the diplomatic route. everything else only makes sense if you imply Germans are a slave race that doesn't have the right to self-determination and protection of their people by any means necessary. that's fine by me - i got used to it. i never heard anything else coming out of the western world in modern history. WW1 is just another expression of this anti-German hatred. when you only like someone that cucks and does as you say - you have that now. hail the new Germany i guess.

Another ironic thing is that America actually implemented lebensraum better than the Germans did during Andrew Jackson's term.

California still requires mothers to get a screening when they are pregnant to check for downs syndrome.

We still be eugenicists nigga.

I've always felt bad for you guys. One of the most advanced civilizations of that time and you were bombed into oblivion because your people stood up against globalism and abolished the gold standard.

Though it's a bait thread I feel like responding.
It's one of the least accurate documentaries about WWII ever produced and I hate and rage the hell out of those bullshit mainstream all-encompassing documentaries with small exceptions here and there.
I was thinking about it recently. It reminded me of those folks who claim that Germans wuz slavs and how Polish language was invented in like 16th century and shit like that. They have a "government" in exile.
How do they come up with this stuff?

I agree that Hitler was in the right to declare on the Poles in WW2, Danzig was German and if Poland refused to negotiate then they should expect war. If only Piłsudski lived a few years more and the war would never have had to happen.

How is this a bait thread? I'm skeptical about it too I just wanted to have a discussion and talk about it.

The war didn't start because of land disputes in northern Pomerania especially not over some neutral city-state. War would break out anyway with or without Piłsudski but the alliances might've looked different.

The whole war was a meat grinder of plebs rigged by warmonger politicians and financeers of colonial empires. (The French were fucking up Vietnam at the time, another mess US plebs were sent to cleanup later.)

The US population did not want any part of it. It took a direct attack by Japan to rally the normies. Japan only attacked after Roosevelt cut off their oil.

the Russian ambassador to Poland of all places is the one that said it and started a big outrage. Poland did cause the war they basically went crazy after assurances from the UK and France that they'd support them in the war. If you dig even further the UK probably only agreed to such a stupid military pact because the Jewish bankers financing their nation and Churchill wanted it for both war profiteering and because they knew the end result would get them Israel

gets better. you almost want to cry toward the end

>The US population did not want any part of it.
that didn't stop Jewsevelt from actively participating in the war covertly against the Germans from almost the beginning

Just try and look up rebuttals to it. You'll find none that are any good.

>You need both sides & some unbias shit to get a clear picture of events

fuck off retard.

What would the justification for France or Britain to join the war if Germany and Poland peacefully compromised? You're right that Hitler and Stalin would've fought regardless, but I don't see any way for French or English public to be willing to join if Hitler was not the aggressor.

>asking Sup Forums of all the places whether the media that conforms with their mindset is credible or not

What kind of nth dimension chess is this?

this if anything it makes you question everything, how much has our own Jewish dominated media not just reported the news but controlled the entire narrative thus creating the reality for our own nation and for how long?

Hitler is probably the most lied about person in history, now why would they do that ? :thinking:

hows dennis doing? hes banned on twitter

top kek

also GOMAD, but don't eat any solid food and only do deadlifts if you want to be healthy

Not much longer i hope. It seems nationalism is rising rapidly across Europe and America since western civilization is under attack by mass immigration and LGBT equality tolerance bullshit.

Hitler is a great case study on the corrupting influence of absolute power.
He definitely wasn't all wrong. At least not at first. Versailles was horseshit and Danzig was German.
Then he went full retard.

Wow. that's great. Now I understand why the ZOGbots are so hostile to Russia if they have people in the government willing to call out stuff like that. I feel bad for Poland in a way, they were completely manipulated by the international bankers because Britian and France offered absolutely 0 assistance to them.

This movie is great
Everyone should watch it
The only people against it are Jews who don't want you to know the truth

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Because it resembles similar threads I see here daily. They always start with innocent questions. On Sup Forums of all places.
But nevermind that. It picked my interests because I know how easy it is to manipulate information. It's almost like a thought experiment. That's how you got "60,000 nazis" on the independence march. I was thinking about TGNT because it reminded me of the revelations of a certain group that I mentioned. They wrote a paper trying to sound all scientific, presenting quotes without context, falsifying information. For example that Polish language wasn't widespread until 1840s. Any Balt or Slav even slightly aware of the way languages evolved here know how ridiculous it sounds and how easy it is to prove. But it's all in the way you present information, don't mention the details that would harm your narrative and make shit up.

who's ready for round up day?

Poland has always seemed to be the punching bag of the world.

He's still making new videos, working on the series: The Secret Masonic Victory of World War Two.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

OY VEY

That's why I take in different viewpoints and research to formulate my own opinion. I'm not trying to bait anybody i just want to learn more and discuss this.

Hitler wanted to make a move against Stalin which could be potentially harmful to the British interest in central Asia, middle east and India. Besides the entire "balance of power" crap.
Poles just didn't want to go to war. This was Piłsudski's will. So the next most important person in the country (Beck) decided to got with the British not because he thought they would honor the deal and defend Poland but because he thought it's the only way Hitler may get discouraged. This is more or less what he told his aide when they were going back from the talks in April 1939. Soon after Canaris told Hitler about the treaty and plans changed. Hitler decided to deal with Poland first. He didn't want that because that was a waste of time and resources.

But there's no way that it dipped that low from this war. According to the article Israel didn't have huge amounts of casualties.

They weren't originally Polish either. The whole German-Polish border dispute goes way back to the eastern crusade.

For those of you who are interested what were Piłsudski's instructions:

1) don't have both Germany and USSR as your enemy at the same time

2) try to join the war as late as possible

3) don't let this become a local conflict because older republic won't care and it won't be an international issue

Polish side felt threatened ever since Rapallo 1922 (German-Soviet partnership) and Locarno 1925 (Germany acknowledges western border refuses to do the same for the eastern).

It goes back even longer than that. There were some Slavic tribes as far West as Hamburg and some Germanic tribes as far East as the Ukraine.

Anti german hatred is still real, I hear it occasionally from travellers, talking about how they don't like germans, period, or co-workers blaming the german people for WW2. It makes me sick. You people were so badly fucked over.

I got the 1080p release and compiled it into one entire 6 hour release. I am the only man on eart with the lossy release and im keeping it all for myself

Okay well the 480p one is doing just fine for me.

Yes it is true. In my weltanschauung, land belongs to whoever holds in currently. You can have a claim to certain land but it can only be your countries through skillful negotiation or war. Throughout the course of history civilizations have risen and fallen and will continue to do so. Just look at poor old Lithuania. The oldest living language in the world is spoken there, their Baltic brothers once inhabited all of Prussia and now look where they are confined to.

You want a mindfuck? Rudolf Hoss, the commandant of Auchwitz for half of the war, confessed to personally overseeing killing 2.5 million people. This confession was entered into evidence at Nuremburg.

Mainstream historians now admit the number killed there during the whole war was about 900,000.

The number at Auschwitz went from an official 4 million to 1.1. million, all the while the 6 million figure stayed the same. No one disputes this.

2+2=5

The Polish government did not have the actual Polish peoples interest after Piłsudski died. They made an enemy of both the USSR and Germany, started aggravating tensions even more with both. Don't take that as a personal attack though because it's Jews fault. Soviets and American government after WW2 have been horrible but the real reason why is Jews, not the average Americans or Russian.

That's very interesting. Another thing I was reading a while ago stated that the death toll from the holocaust only went to 6 million in the early 50's and before that nobody even thought about how many truly died during it all.
The world was still recovering and I guess the people who put that number up, knew that the world would eat it all up.

Yeah I don't know, it doesn't make sense, that graph is suspect

Before Hitler German government had constant diplomatic fighting and tarrif wars. This with refusal to acknowledge the territorial changes made their intentions rather clear even if it was just a political gesture.
In contrast Germans and German culture seemed rather popular in Poland.
After 1933 it was the opposite. Until April 1939 high ranking III Reich officials were making visits to Poland.
youtube.com/watch?v=6qYe7ShXeT8
And in the Polish press from that time I'm judging that people were trying to separate German celebrities and such from their government.
Germany didn't need neutral Poland so the reason for this diplomatic campagin was obvious.

In Israel Holocaust survivors were seen as an embarrassment because they resembled docile sheep so they were basically bullying them for 20 years until the topic became popular isntead focusing on the Ghetto uprising (which is controversial for its own reasons).

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Europa is also really good. It covers everything TGSNT does and more, including the (((Russian))) revolution, Kalergi plan and other Jewish tricks. It's 12 hours long though so it might be too long for normie attention spans.

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It's a good doc

I'll check it out. Thanks man.

good luck. had a bust-up with my ex about the whole thing. new girl watched tgsnt with me with an open mind. much better.

It's 90 percent true.
Also watch the other Dennis Wise video's communism through the backdoor and the secret Masonic victory of world war two.

Keep watching, later watch "The Last Days of the Big Lie" to know there was no Holocaust.

I know but we shouldn't start equating Germanic and Slavic tribes that didn't have a proper concept of nations with Germans and Poles. A Slav in what's now Poland didn't get angry about Germanics from Scandinavia attacking other Slavs in what's now Germany. He didn't know of the existence of either. The vice versa applies to Slavs entering Germanic territory in Ukraine.

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Explaining the danzig massacre, the reason why hitler attacked poland to save germans.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA FUCKIN FAG

Thanks

Why did hoaxters chose literally the worst possible place for a fake massacre? A place that was 90% Germans, Poles had two official buildings and they were the abused ones. None of you read any Günter Grass? Hey I'm from this city I have to know what I'm talking about.
But seriously if there were any actual evidence like reports (like from Congo or during the Boer wars) or something. Anything. And considering the diplomatic missions to Poland not to mention all we know about the talks behind the scenes (like the Hossbach memorandum) would make the Third Reich quite scummy and uncraing to his people. I'd choose a different strategy. I'll never get why German apologists can't just accept that Hitler wanted to get rid of the bolshevism and to make up for the lost colonies after WWI (the HM makes his arguments to do so sound more economic than political desu)

>Political questions being discussed on Sup Forums of all places, the board for discussing politics
Who would've thought