Sup Forums will defend this
Sup Forums will defend this
Ryan Jones
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Lincoln Robinson
If you want more, you gotta pay more. Sounds fair to me.
Juan Peterson
Somehow we got to 2015 without that happening.
But hey, maybe you shouldn't think for yourself and just do what these borderline monopoly sales giants are telling you, instead of the borderline monopoly telecoms companies. I'm sure one is less evil then the other :^)
Kayden Allen
Internet cannot be legally owned by anyone, and on those grounds should be treated just as international waters are. Internet access should be unhindered and there should be no throttling for said access.
Henry Green
It limits your access to information thus inhibiting your freedom of information.
Angel Williams
It isnt fair when there are only a limited number of companies allowed to be isp's
Its an oligopoly
Adrian Baker
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Blake Parker
Not really, The idea of NN existed since the 80's. It was created a law because ISP are greedy,
Mason Jenkins
Archived that
>wired com/2009/10/iphone-att-skype
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Carson Adams
Why?
The internet is like a vast library and the ISP are like the librarians. Your computer says "One book about Marx please" and the ISP goes into the library finds the right book, and brings it back. Right now, they gotta do ANYTHING you want. Any book so long as you have the name and where to find it, they'll go get it. They should be allowed to refuse. They shouldn't be compelled.
If they don't get the book you want, you go find another librarian who can.
Huh. The problem is big government. Wow. That's a shocker!
Anthony Butler
Maybe people will actually get out of their caves and be productive with their lives. If any ISP did this, they would lose so much money. It would be ford cutting for cable all over.
Gavin Rogers
>They should be allowed to refuse
I know right? We wouldn't want the silly masses learning things! Now would we
Gabriel Reed
If the librarian doesn't get you the book you want, you get a new librarian
Free market will push for total access
Levi Taylor
Until I came here to see what Sup Forums thought of this issue, I figured that they would be in favor of Net Neutrality in fear of losing access to alt-right sites. Turns out, they're the ones supporting it, so maybe ISPs will want more people to share their views?
Carter Lee
This is only theoretical.
The Netzero of the future will arrive and save humanity from electronic oppression.
Michael Barnes
Yeah I'm sure those competitors will NOT be sued out of business by the monopolies any day now!
Carter Cruz
Again, bum dada bum, the problem is government intervention!
Brayden Gutierrez
>government intervention makes corporations into scum-sucking dickwads that only exist to generate cash for baby boomer execs
???
Lincoln Collins
The ability of these scummy corporations to sue their competitors comes from the law.
The law is given to us by the wonderful state.
Change the laws and you remove their ability to sue their competition
Gabriel Bell
And where does allowing them to charge even more money for even slower service change said laws?
Jayden Ward
>Digg
Jesus at least find a better graphic
Jeremiah Gonzalez
The ISPs are the ones lobbying the states, most of them run by corrupt Republicans, to make the laws giving them the mono/duopoly
Joshua Reyes
>go on imgur to upload a pic
>front page is 100% net neutrality and pictures comparing pai guy to hitler
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why the fuck is reddit so immature? and why the FUCK is reddit coming here and spamming their shitty memes all over Sup Forums like OP? fuck off with all these threads I'm so sick of it
Landon Stewart
Imagine that the internet is a big tub of water. The ISPs have the ladle and are pouring it out in the cups of the customers.
Right now, the ISPs are forced to be blindfolded. All they can do is ladle out water.
Changing this law removes their blind fold. Now they can see what they're doing. This is a good thing.
BUT
There are laws in effect saying who can own a ladle. Only the chosen few can have a ladle. If someone else tries to ladle out water, they call up the goonsquad and they're taken away.
This is bad because now there's no market pressure on them to make sure that they're doing their job right. If anyone could have a ladle in the first place, then there'd be no reason for the blindfolds.
Oliver Jones
I DO NOT WANT NIGGERS ON MY INTERNET CANT THUS FUCKING BOARD GET IT. FUCK POOR PEOPLE THEY CAN GET NEWSPAPERS FOR MEDIA ITS FUCKING A QUARTER. ILL PAY UP FOR NO RETARDS ON THE INTERNET.
Joseph Howard
You're going off topic. How does allowing ISPs to charge more for less cause them to stop suing potential competition out of contention?
Aaron Nguyen
> the interwebs should be like free to all man.
How many miles of fiber optic cable have you laid? How many people do you employ to run servers, do tech support, repair lines? 0? Then shut the fuck up. The market, if left alone, will solve the access problem. Don't like how isps are run? Write a business plan, get some capital, and start your own.
Lincoln Turner
> tfw creating the biggest hot spot in the neighborhood and charging everyone 10 for all packages
Finally going to exit the NEET lifestyle. Bitches gonna be tweaking on me for my cash
Jordan Cook
worst case scenario:
>set up foreign VPN for $3
>access everything
You'd probably have problems with HD video and high traffic, but otherwise I don't see why not... They won't dare block VPNs.
Andrew Turner
you already have them all but someone is taking them away from you and charging you to get it back , there is no "more"
Oliver Price
That infrastructure was paid for by taxes already. In fact, we paid for a hell of a lot more than what we have - a long time ago.
Juan Reyes
>ISP blocks access to VPNs unless you buy the $50/month addon
Austin Russell
You need to read more carefully, son. I just explained it in that nicely crafted metaphor.
But I'll go over it again. Repealing net neutrality laws does not force the ISPs into being anti-consumerist dickbags. It gives the freedom to do that. And other things too. It's like taking off the blindfold.
The problem is that there anti-competition laws in effect that makes this type of greed possible.
Dylan Watson
These things always have archaic websites and apps on them. I don't know who makes them but they're really reaching.
Christopher Hernandez
>Don't like how isps are run? Write a business plan, get some capital, and start your own.
Can't. That's illegal, son.
Chase Turner
This place has made a complete 180. I remember when this same topic came around in 2011 everyone was on board to stop it.
This hypocrisy is just sad.
Leo Morris
Answer the question you fucking kike nigger. How the FUCK does GIVING MORE MONEY TO ISPs for NOTHING make those anti-competition laws go away?
Carson Adams
I'M SAYING THAT THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, COCKSUCKER
Do you need your hand fucking held to understand a basic point being made?
David Gutierrez
>checkout this fearmonger mockup some shill made
>h-haha
Somehow this shit reminds me of how people claimed there were deathsquads being send out to kill all PoC and genderqueers after the night of Trump's election.
Carson Cox
You guys have been posting variants of that scaremongering bullshit on forums for 15 years. If ISPs were gonna do it they'd have already tried.
Gabriel Allen
THERE IT FUCKING IS. HE FINALLY ADMITS THAT REPEALING NET NEUTRALITY HAS ZERO FUNCTIONAL PURPOSE FOR ANY CONSUMER OTHER THAN TO PART THEM FROM MORE OF THEIR DOLLARS. MONOPOLIES SHALL PERSIST, DOLLARS SHALL BE TAKEN, AND SPEED WILL STAY SLOW.
Thomas Nelson
Until we fix our issues with government we need net neutrality to stop the oligopoly from gaining more power and a tighter grip on information.
Nolan Anderson
You only get choice with competition. If government gets involved you won't have any choice.
The best option is to abolish anti-trust laws
Jason Reed
let it burn boi
Anthony Hall
No, you daft cunt.
Repealing net neutrality gives them the power to do anything, including that shit. But here's a radical idea for you: It's better to have the freedom to fuck up and pay for it then be trapped in a little box preventing you from doing much at all.
Jason Ramirez
You gotta remember, Sup Forums users today were teenagers (or younger) in 2011.
Now, rebelling against Obama is cool, just like rebelling against Bush was cool when we were their age.
Isaac Johnson
>There are laws in effect saying who can own a ladle. Only the chosen few can have a ladle. If someone else tries to ladle out water, they call up the goonsquad and they're taken away.
>only thing stopping new ISPs is gubment regulations and not the cost of start up, need for infrastructure (not to mention being shut out of existing infrastructure) and fact that larger competittors will crush you before you have a chance lmao 2/10 you made me reply
Justin Wright
>The best option is to abolish anti-trust laws
lolwut
anti-trust laws are there to ensure competition
Carter Scott
>you need competition
>the only choice is to doom competition
You antishits have lost your minds.
Nicholas Bell
>teenagers
I was 24, We all understood the need for net neutrality.
It's the last bastion of freedom
Matthew Butler
You and I maybe, but the average user age here is 20. They were 14 in 2011 and probably barely knew anything outside of facebook and going to the playboy website when their parents were out.
Xavier Morgan
You have to go back
Mason Morales
Exept that there are no other libraries because two libraries already have a HUGE control on the library monopoly and there are no other libraries on your area. pol sometimes really finds the way to impress me with imbeciles such as yourself dumb nigger
Kevin Morales
There is only one library. The Internet. What differs are the librarians.
Why are so many people here having difficulty with basic metaphors? Is it an ESL thing?
No hablo ingles?
Austin Walker
Your metaphors are irrelevant, autistic, and incorrect.
Christian Jackson
holy fucking shit user that is brilliant.
Luke Garcia
can u imagine how much better facebook would be with a 10 a month charge?
that would weed out the undesirables
Daniel Cruz
>Hit your 100GB monthly data cap in less than a week
>You lose all internet access
>Neighbors break into your house and kill you for stealing their money
>Such is life in a libertarian utopia
Jaxon Price
uhhh ohhhh
Jack James
SomethingAwful charges $10 to register and it's still garbage
Eli Perez
yup less white trash and niggers.
Justin Scott
If you are reffering ti SOPA then I remember that, I was already living alone and learning about bills. I also remember it being a histarical failure, then thinking, they will learn from this and be back with the same shit one day.
The internet is for porn
Julian Ramirez
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Isaac Young
nobody here ever bitches about the lesser whites
Brayden Russell
>Sup Forums: "this is bad for me"
>"but it is making liberals mad"
>"but it is bad for me too"
>"but LEADER is all for it"
>THE DILEMA
Jaxon Walker
>already bought an assault rifle
>gun down neighbors by the droves
>They didn't buy the plus police package so they don't get their lawful self-defense killings investigated
>I lose all my customers
>poor again
Such is life in a libertarian utopia
Gabriel Bell
That's because we have them contained in trailer parks and states no one gives a fuck about user.
Dominic Lopez
If the ISPs wanted to charge you more for internet nothing is stopping them from doing that right now. The only people net neutrality benefits are the people that watch 12 hours of netflix/youtube per day because the people that dont do that are subsidizing them.
Ayden Barnes
>what is a natural monopoly?
Jordan Carter
What if there's only two librarians and they both refuse? I can't get my book.
Liam Perez
yeah but they have to raise their prices as a whole, not just for specific sites. They cant go "you need extra dollarydoos for 4chins" they just have to raise the price as a whole, but this price raising means they are less competitive, so they dont do it. However giving ISPs the ability to do this means that they can now price gouge against specific sites
Logan Nelson
Repealing net neutrality is like giving a gun you took away from somebody who repeatedly shot you in the kneecaps back and trusting them to use that gun in a better way and to not shoot you in the knee caps again. Sure, the dude might not shoot you, but now that he has the gun back there's not much stopping him from doing the same exact thing.
Matthew Turner
It’s just fucking fags trying to be edgy
Andrew Howard
Sup Forums also used to be super pro Ron Paul
then the redditors and phoneposters invaded and turned the board anti-Paul and pro-Trump
Andrew Ramirez
>jews jewing jews and im supposed to care
I'd rather let the normies get mad that they have to buy a facetime, facebook and snapchat bundle while I just use a vpn. We gotta speed this weimar shit up if we want a chance
Kayden Robinson
>oy vey, let us charge you extra to send and receive bytes to different places
Spotted the jew
Ethan Reed
This. ISPs or Silicon Valley. Choose your Jew.
Wyatt Morales
oyy vey schlomo if the isp throttles our degenerate movies, shows and music we are going to have to pay them not to throttle us! oh god its another shoah.
meanwhile the average american has been getting trampled for decades and they only unplug their zog vision to chimp out about having to pay extra for their zog vision.
DESTROY AND REBUILD. WE ARE ALREADY DEAD. BRING ON THE RIOTS.
Landon Murphy
I use TOR, how will that affect me?
Brody Bell
Which is why data limits could exist, not website packages.
You pay for your limit of data, not what websites you access.
Liam Turner
Why do soyboys think they'll be able to charge you to visit other websites? Sites like Amazon and Hulu will die if you can't visit them, and will gladly pay to keep you coming.
Elijah Ross
hello schlomo of netflix its me rabbi david of comcast, please pay me more.
you lose with both sides when it comes to (((net neutrality))). pick the side that makes normies chimp out more
Carson Miller
the anti-competition laws are broken. That's why there is only 1 ISP in most of America. also you are an idiot.
Camden Wright
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