Sup Forums im confused here, i dont know what to fucking believe about this...

Sup Forums im confused here, i dont know what to fucking believe about this. I come on here and I see a shit ton of people say that this is what will become of the internet due to the roll back of Obamas net neutrality thing, and i see an equal amount of people saying otherwise. I need some knowledge here please

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arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/
google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/comcast-brings-fiber-to-city-that-it-sued-7-years-ago-to-stop-fiber-rollout/?amp=1
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Do you want your ISP to block Sup Forums because it offended some snowflakes? If so, then oppose net neutrality.

Ok, thank you user

do you want Sup Forums to be excluded from the internet when no other company wants to be in a package with Sup Forums?

le tard

Exactly. That's why I support NN.

You're welcome.

If thats the case then why is Infowars so gung-ho about it?

Literally the opposite of what is true.

or am i just missing something here

REEEEE I fear the internet is destined to be fucked either way!

>Sup Forums gets blocked
>I can finally leave
>it spreads into other sites
Win-win

Because it's government interference in the free market. Whether or not that's a good thing in this case is up for debate, but there's your reason.

Personally, I'm anti net-neutrality in its current state simply because it does nothing to address the internet censorship that is already happening from companies like Google and Twitter. I don't think big telecom companies would pull such a bold change like the one in the OP in the foreseeable future, because it would anger hordes of customers and open up a floodgate of other companies swooping them up like vultures.

You're wrong, though.

what you will get with package internet is enforced "morality" "think of the children" garbage that TV had.

There are more than 2 choices, damasse. You can be against repealing net neutrality but want modifications to the current NN

Catered internet packages would technically be legal if the 2015 obama NN rules were repealed, but similarly they were legal before that point, and yet ISPs did not attempt to implement them. As such, it would be unlikely that they would attempt to implement them now, especially given how poor of optics such a move would hvae.

Anyone who is pro NN is reddit.
Sup Forums is contrarian to the end.

>it spreads into other sites
This, Sup Forums is a containment area, shutting it down would result in a massive spreading.

Bullshit. Now is the prime time for them to try to make packages

Please don't release me from this place...

This. A nation is not the dirt but its people. Sup Forums and specifically pol will migrate if that shit actually hits the fan.

>ISPs are going to want to reignite the NN debate and risk losing billions just to appease some SJWs

Nigga, you think Verizon and Comcast want to include this site into say, a family package? This site is "toxic" to them. You idiots just fucked over your little hangout by supporting the GOP kikes yet AGAIN.

Read this brainlets.
dailywire.com/news/18613/7-reasons-net-neutrality-idiotic-aaron-bandler
Inb4 (((aaron))) (((shapiro)))

Call me crazy but it's probably Russian money.
We gotta see who is actually buying Alex Jones vitality pills.

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Its just fear mongering from commie shills who suck the govts dick

Why? Nothing has changed to make it more viable. In fact it is much less viable, given how many different niche services many people rely on for their work and school. All ISPs will do with their restored powers is go back to trying to get video streaming websites to pay them more money

Remember that all the people replying to you haven't read the regulations that are being rolled back. They have no clue what's in them and are merely repeating what they've heard.

>muh russians
Give me one reason why the Russians are my enemy

OP's pic gets the point across, but in reality it'll be google and facebook in free tier and the farther from (((their))) influence you get the more you will pay

because you live in america retard.

NNfags have been posting that stupid graphic for 15 years trying to scare everyone into thinking that will be the future of the internet without NN.

>le website package deal meme XdDDdD

almost like obama was the good guy all along

How does that make the Russians my enemy?

OP pic is pure propaganda.

that was the future of TV why wouldnt it be the future of the internet. especially when the ISPs have said so.

Is there a link to the regulations?

Even with NN the FCC could end up censoring Sup Forums once the useless progressives start passing hate crime laws

Please explain Mr. Red Pill

>that was the future of TV why wouldnt it be the future of the internet.
Because they are entirely different services from top to bottom

>weev on net neutrality

youtube.com/watch?v=B03eByZia5I

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That is incorrect. TV is free over the air. If you want premium channels you have to pay. There is no free internet over the air. If you want access you have to pay. Your example is false.

This reminds when i was a kid and got a 10 hr free disc of AOL, use to get tyem all the time. Essentially at one point you had to pay for time on the internet, you also had to pay for long distance calls at one point, you also had to pay for cable tv at one point to. Once government contolled internet is sent out into the public it will be come cheaper, better, and more avialble. You already pay for cable internet from comcast or any other provider but what if you could get cheaper internet from a different company eventually youll switch then guess what, that company will get more aggresive and come up with more affordable and better options. Ending net neutrality will be the biggest fuck you to facebook and google. When better services become availble shit services will disappear.

I wonder why ISPs dont think they are different then...

This whole "net neutrality" debate is complete bullshit.
ISPs know if they try to pull that "web package" shit they'll be excoriated in the press and online and lose shitloads of money.
There's nothing to see here, move along.

Idiots posting shit about Portuguese ISPs are completely stupid.
Russia exterminated millions of its own people, in gulags and death camps - it's not like America ran right out to copy it.

Because they have to pay content providers to put their stations on their cable network dipshit

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They do.

wrong

>risk losing billions
>over Sup Forums

Sounds like you're agreeing with me. Opposing NN will destroy our site.

So far the most rational argument I've heard against NN is that currently everyone pays the same rates, despite a small number of netflix and youtube power users taking up a disproportionate amount of bandwith. If you repealed NN, ISPs would be able to sell youtube/netflix access at a different rate wherein people who never use those would likely wind up paying a lot less per bill. In theory.

In actuality, ISPs are subhuman cockroaches. They won't reduce anybody's rates, they'll just start charging certain people more. Pics like OP already happen in certain parts of the world. It will definitely happen. The powers ISPs would have with NN repealed will NOT be weilded for the benefit of anybody except their shareholders.

You were in the last thread too. I can tell by your broken logic.

What Redditors are crying about happening wouldn't even prevent these meme images about packages to happen.

Seriously, try to point out where the currently proposed actions will allow blocking of certain websites

Thats sounds just like what it will be like when net neutrality is repealed...

>They won't reduce anybody's rates, they'll just start charging certain people more
yeah, netflix and google. Who gives a fuck

>>over Sup Forums
Because if they start censoring speech it will create a huge slippery slope argument and create massive political support for NN
If NN comes back they can no longer buttrape netflix google facebook and amazon

WTF are you talking about? No one, not even the hardcore NNs are saying that. You are pulling this out of your ass.

>net neutrality is good because how else would boomers come to Sup Forums
Nice argument

There was a time when moot banned ponies. Look how that turned out.

Sites can already put themselves behind a paywall with NN you fucking retard

kek when I don't use any of those services or likewise ones from my origin country.

Kinda wish I could find a uncorrupted medium to reach out to likeminded people.

paywalls are not the same shill

Because as time goes by, certain websites gain more and more control. Also it doesn't matter how many different types of websites people go to... It could start as a few packages containing a ton of sites for a lot of $, or tons of small ones containing few sites for a few $. Either way, the price will skyrocket over time and you wouldn't be able to access certain websites, which is BS

Net neutrality is fundamentally sound. You're a pipe-dealer, you deal in pipes, your customers pay for bandwidth, and that's that. Whether you're a large co-locating company in a peering contract or you're Joe Blow downloading porn, you pay for bandwidth. Making people pay more for bytes of a certain source and destination is called Jewing.

I'm not sure about the legality of blocking certain websites outright, but they can and will throttle their bandwidth to as little as possible.

That'd just be the start. Internet could be like cable TV where you only get reasonable access to certain sites, sold in giant bundles, where to get the one you want, you have to get a shitload of crap you don't want. Besides, why should you be in favor of an ISP getting the legal right to fuck over customers and make even more money without contributing anything to the economy? They just want the right to print money for themselves. Can you really be this cucked?

They'll lose money initially, but it'll still happen

How are they different?

Why don't we say fuck it and join Hyperboria? Decentralized internet for all

>but they can and will throttle their bandwidth to as little as possible.
Point out where the currently proposed actions will make that more possible

Wait, is that actually happening to the internet in the US? Goddamn I can't wait to get home and read about that shit.

Holy fuck, there's no way right? Fucking hell, in 2 years the UK will have that. Probably worse, we'll end up having to get a licence to browse the internet.

FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/

Paywalls are something websites use to support themselves. Without NN, ISPs could force you to pay extra for access to a specific site, and give none of those proceeds to the website itself.

And they'll pay because they have more money than god. Sup Forums/alternative media sites won't because they can't, so they'll just get throttled to hell in favor of the major players.

NN is misnomenclature. The regulations should be called the ISPs get whatever they want.

GG giving the Feds more power NN faggots

Let the Internet die.

Let people see what kind of cunts all the companies normies worship are.

None of need the Internet. None of us need television. All of our lives would improve without being slaves to Facebook or Netflix.

Want white people to wake up to the reality of being 56% or a hated minority in a decade?

Get rid of the virtual reality of Facebook.

Want neighborhoods to become communities again?

Get rid of your cellphone.

Want the country to improve and prosper?

Get rid of meaningless distractions. Like news about listening to some liberal trans bitch about manslpaining across the country.

Let the Internet die and let the community live.

That's the whole point of repealing net neutrality. Being able to treat data packets differently depending on their source. The great benefits of no NN that ISPs are always touting is creating "internet fast lanes". Well cupcake, it's all relative, and you can't create a fast lane without their being a slow lane.

Read the comment chain fuckwit
That is not what we are talking about

Point it out though

Follow the money. Open society foundation. Bad news!

You should be for net neutrality then you fucking retard

Soros wants nn
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NN was pushed by Obama to get the FCC and NSA's dick all up in your internet. I'm not saying there is no risk of abuse by ISP's, but I am saying I don't care about that nearly as much as I care about the feds keeping there grubbie little paws off my internet.

If the ISP's fuck us over then we pass specific laws against there practice we don't fucking rape the entire internet.

these are trump bots paid by russia to support killing NN so that america becomes more of a shitty third world country.

There are far too many websites for them to keep up with all of them. More importantly, if they want to fuck you, either 1. they have a regional monopoly, so they can charge you whatever they want anyway, or 2. they DON'T have a regional monopoly, and so they can't fuck you without losing your business. Nothing in this proposed change to policy will affect your bill.

Decentralized internet fixes errthing

Do you really think people will care about them censoring Sup Forums? The media will call it "an alt-right website that promotes pedophilia" and that's all normies will care about.

Look how much censoring conservatives has hurt Facebook or Twitter. And conservatives don't like Sup Forums either.

Read my post again, carefully.

>these are trump bots paid by russia
I wish you could hear how utterly fucking retarded you sound.

>As such, it would be unlikely that they would attempt to implement them now, especially given how poor of optics such a move would hvae.
yes they will but the only fuckers that are going to pay are Netflix and Youtube. It's entirely unreasonable that 30% of all daily traffic in the U.S. is Netflix and either the ISP's will make netflix pay who will then pass it to consumers or they'll just flat out make consumers pay for it

republicans need to ask corporations permission for that first.

>All of our lives would improve without being slaves to Facebook or Netflix
You fucking donut, those are the sites which are going to be included in every base internet plan. It's sites like like Sup Forums and alternative news sources which don't generate the revenue of the big players which are going to be throttled to oblivion.

I wish you could

fucking prove it

See, you can actually fight Google's and Twitter's censorship because the internet as it is right now allows you to post whatever you like and the ISPs can't limit access to your "dangerous" ideas. As little exposure you have, its fair because you have equal access to web as the big guys. That is currently the Status Quo.

Repealing of that and you'll have to meet the standards of the ISP if you don't want access to your ideas limited. It shifts the censorship from websites to ISPs. Wouldn't be a problem with the free market, since you could switch ISPs, but for the VAST majority of Americans that's not the case. ISPs have lobbied to make it harder for start ups to take root and challange their monopolies. Take Chattanooga:

google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/comcast-brings-fiber-to-city-that-it-sued-7-years-ago-to-stop-fiber-rollout/?amp=1

Instead of competing they tried to get the Government to prevent building its own broadband. Its slimy, Jewish tactics like this that makes me distrust telecomms and there are people on Sup Forums that wouldn't mind these same people being gatekeepers to the internet.

>implying Sup Forums users don’t want Sup Forums to die
This is how I know you’re a newfag shill.

>Do you really think people will care about them censoring Sup Forums?
That is why I said it will create a slippery slope argument

>I will pay more to visit Sup Forums

>i know you are but what am i
You have the intellectual capacity of a toddler. I see why you support NN now.