>ISPs get tax dollars to build the infrastructure for the internet >Obama takes power from them and gives it to Faceberg, Jewtube etc by making the net (((neutral))) aka oligopoly >If you like the internet being dominated by the ever popular porn/netflix/faceberg combo(redshitters)... DEFEND NET NEUTRALITY >If you aren't worried about ISPs taking some of your shekels... DONT DEFEND NET NEUTRALITY
>he doesnt know "Faceberg" and "Jewgle" can pay ISPs to simply block all access to Sup Forums reddit Gab and all other competitors God damn, i love burger retards. Cant wait for NN to be repealed. Literally shilling for yourself to be kicked off the internet.
Connor Lopez
Do you care about small changes in your internet price?
Are you afraid of Sup Forums being shut down?
Do you love Netflix, Faceberg and Jewtube?
Connor Bennett
Couldn't care less about any of those things. If they get won't be accessible from the eu, new local sites will pop up, or people will find ways to go around it.
James Sullivan
>(((They))) already got ISPs to remove Andrew Anglin from the internet >Implying anyone can hire an ISP hitmam to shut down Sup Forums without consequences never being the same >Inplying the makeapp works on /OurGirl/ >Implying the website ban will work on /OurChan/
Cameron Ortiz
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Jonathan Nguyen
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Jeremiah Hall
Sounds like you don't go to redshit very much
They're raiding Sup Forums with threads trying to get us to do their work for them
They couldn't organize a bake sale ffs
Thomas Lopez
This. At least it's fun to watch.
Carter Davis
>All those faggot ass E-celeb losers on the right >No Pewdiepie Gas yourself m8
Almost saved/10
Charles Ramirez
From what I see here, it's about 50/50. Also, do you actually have bandwith limits and throttling, or is that a meme?
Samuel Baker
Dammit, I fucking KNEW I was missing somebody.
Kayden Clark
we do have throttling and bandwith limits, nn makes sure that they cant monpolize and turn against us, if nn gets repealed the isps will gain more jewish power and shut down shit they dont like, doesnt matter if twitter doesnt like your post when the jewish isp is done shutting down your website, then making you pay for an internet package.
Angel Price
>Repeal (((Net Neutrality))) >All Americans will get kicked off the internet Lol nope, just Faceberg, Jewtube and Netflix will slow down/charge more
Sup Forums has always been public enemy #1 to the haters of free speech and no NN was not stopping that
Kayden Wood
>brainlet.jpg
Jose Cook
I legit don't care about NN, so spare me the bullshit, nigger.
Jordan Adams
It a conspiracy theory and subtle if anything ever gets proven but yeah nazi videos always have to pause to load etc
Gotta let the NSA know we dont buy revisionist history etc every time we click a button
Yes they monitor all of you too, just they care a lot less because you irrelevent
Gabriel Rogers
You realize that this is exactly what happened with Cable tv right? And that people wound up having to pay for limited packages instead of having access to everything like before?
But hey, I'm sure it'll be totally different this time.
Camden Miller
I honestly was about to click save and then zoomed in
Good try but simplify the cartoon with a fat smug pewdiepie
Nathan Baker
So youre saying there will be a Sup Forums only package?
What do you think we use to internet for?
Netfags? Jewtube? Faceberg? (((Any popular pornsite)))? Reddit?
Oh no, it's the end of the free internet! The internet is a dead hugbox outside Sup Forums and Sup Forums fears nothing, not even death because those who go after Sup Forums learn to regret going after it.
Lucas Cox
Actually, I'm in not in favour of NN then. Nobody outside of spergs and old people actually watch TV now, it's all on the PC, so if the same thing is gonna happen with the internet, this might be good for innovation.
Adam Davis
>If you like the internet being dominated by the ever popular porn/netflix/faceberg combo(redshitters)... >DEFEND NET NEUTRALITY But without NN your torrents will get throttled so that your ISP can give you the "best deal" of the century for their sponsored *insert shit plan here* for only 15$ extra.
Lucas Brooks
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Joseph Davis
>I don't know how to use a VPN; the post I will be very glad if all that hyperbole really does come to pass, and niggers like you are kicked off the internet.
Jackson Nelson
>All this concern for cloud computing exposing clients to risk, eliminating privacy and removing peoples control of their own data is scaremongering hyperbole goys
>All this concern for trusted computing exposing clients to vulnerabilities and backdoors designed right into the hardware is scaremongering hyperbole goys
I still respect pirates on an idealogical level(stealing from the rich and redistributing to the poor), but I won't vote for a bloody pirate policy
Michael Murphy
LOOK UP WHAT A VPN IS YOU FUCKING RETARD JESUS H CHRIST DO NOT ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO ENCRYPT YOUR INTERNET ACTIVITY???
Easton Allen
>implying they won't throttle VPNs or other encrypted activity
Brandon Perez
>this means we shouldn't do it at all unironically kys Your entire argument for NN is "it better enables muh legal system to protect consumers" There are already laws in place to prevent throttling of encrypted traffic, as the government themselves kind of sends the majority of their traffic over encrypted connections Are you seriously suggesting we should support the government cracking down on things it doesn't like, or else the government will crackdown on itself?
Aaron Mitchell
Obama passed anti-VPN legislation last year lol
But yeah VPN negates a lot of (((NN))) problems for those who care
Whats your point shill?
Logan Parker
>Obama passed anti-VPN legislation last year lol And Russia has outright banned them but that isn't stopping people from using them one bit.
>Whats your point shill? >I'm a shill for pointing out that the whole argument is pointless as a lot of this shit already happens and people already know how to circumvent it anyways so I'm a shill for arguing against government control of the internet? What are you, CIA?
Daniel Ross
VPNs defeat the purpose of free porn becuase VPNs aren't free
And the ISPs can see encrypted from your civilian home and throttle it anyway, corps don't mind laws on the individual level. also cite these laws please
I'd rather trust the Gov than (((corps))) even though the gov is run by even more (((corps)))
Evan Jenkins
>What are you, CIA?
Landon King
also don't people realize that the CIA dont care about NN cause all traffic will still goes through them regardless?
Grayson Davis
>Meme flag using a (((hollywood))) actor to shill for Net Neutrality on Sup Forums Because Obama really cared about protecting our right to free speech didn't he?
Consumers arent protected by current laws, see: Andrew Anglin
Zachary Foster
>implying you're the only one thinking of doing that SUBSCRIBE HERE TODAY GOY! ONLY 6 GORILLION SHEKELS PER POST ON Sup Forums! TELL THE JOOZ WHAT YOU THINK OF NN! #goodgoys
Brandon Wright
I have a monthly bandwidth cap on my 100mbps house internet, I'm allowed no more than 300gb of transfer for an entire month. If I go over they bill me so much for every 50gb. my phone is capped at 2gb of data. if I want the "unlimited" data plan, they charge an extra $20 "smart phone access fee" ontop of the normal bill every month, and I refuse to pay an extra fee for the privilege of using a service I already paid for.
my house internet is supposed to be 100mbps, but it is regularly throttled to around 1mpbs or lower. refreshing any website will take minutes to actually load, but when I google for a speed test the unthrottle it too over 100mbps for a few minutes. recently this trick has stopped working. I suspect they got wise, especially after I posted about this multiple times. Now a speed test will return over 100mpbs while other sites load like shit.
Michael Ortiz
CIA knows everything you do online now and they will continue to know even after NN is repealed
Their powers will remain unchanged
ISPs will no longer be forced to provide (((free))) data usage to all websites though. This will hurt the big ones: Faceberg, Jewtube, Netfags etc.
Small fringe anime card trading sites that punch back 100x harder than they get hit will be safe as long as they can purge their degenerate boards
Prepare to see all boards except Sup Forums shut down and turned into 1 giant board of NO PORN, NO DEGENERACY, ALL MONITORED, EVERYTHING LEGAL ALLOWED
>And the ISPs can see encrypted from your civilian home and throttle it anyway, corps don't mind laws on the individual level. also cite these laws please Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Act. papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2312913
Also >implying they won't ignore NN when they have been proven to do so already techdirt.com/articles/20141012/06344928801/revealed-isps-already-violating-net-neutrality-to-block-encryption-make-everyone-less-safe-online.shtml >Mon, Oct 13th 2014 10:38am >I'd rather trust the Gov than (((corps))) even though the gov is run by even more (((corps))) >implying the corporations aren't the government >what is lobbying Get a load of this goy! >Consumers arent protected by current laws, see: Andrew Anglin Legally though they are, and what happened there absolutely violated the law ...but of course, nothing will ever be done about it.
Lincoln Sullivan
>Every post is well thought out and replied to with real arguments >All spam is removed due to unmotivated poorfag shills failing to cough up the cash >Only world changing discussion is allowed by those of us with Official Sup Forums Hero of Hiro passes
>>implying they won't ignore NN when they have been proven to do so already this completely contradicts your first point of consumer/encryption protections
>what is lobbying my post addresses lobbying by >even though the gov is run by even more (((corps))) or is your reading comprehension compromised? I know that this NN repeal is fueled by lobbying, do you?
Also putting the net behind a wall of money or workarounds completely goes against the free market nature of the net and by extension Sup Forums photoshop, dingus
Ryder Miller
>I know that this NN repeal is fueled by lobbying, do you? >while implying that NN itself is not fueled by yet even MORE lobbying I am 80% certain that you've just been baiting me.
Xavier Miller
>Only world changing discussion is allowed i look forward to sealioning amerifat posters, knowing each reply is literally bankrupting them also: amerifat posts will soon be pages long essays with lots of ">inb4"
Lucas Hall
You can switch mobile service providers/devices across multiple competitive options easily unless you live in bumfuck nowhere with very limited service
You are right about ISPs already fucking with customers under the table
You are really right when you start measuring the speed of this so called (((NEUTRAL))) net
Everyone just read this fucking post
>The law protects the citizen!... kind of... BUT WE SHOULD PROTECT THE LAW WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOT GUYS Thats my point. Redshit should either save NN on their own or fail miserably and watch us survive what happens afterwards.
Redshitters care about whats on Faceberg or Netfags tonight. Sup Forums cares about the soul of the biggest youtuber on Earth.
Jason Cox
>I am 80% certain that you've just been baiting me. The shills are being paid to push for NN approval and the useful idiots are all to happy to help.
Levi Carter
>Thats my point. Redshit should either save NN on their own or fail miserably and watch us survive what happens afterwards. seems exactly like what they are doing is failing, and throwing the most obnoxious autistic fit about not getting their way
>Redshitters care about whats on Faceberg or Netfags tonight. Sup Forums cares about the soul of the biggest youtuber on Earth. I am still just absolutely pissed off that the bastards just stopped supporting this sort of thing and let PIPA pass, but when the normies get all ruffled up about NN, they leap on that right fucking away. The moment, and I mean the very fucking moment (((they))) stop trying to push this angle we will see all this NN bullshit vanish virtually overnight.
Why do we not have a parody website of Occupy Democrat shit?
I bet half my faceberg friends would retweet this image without even reading it
Landon Butler
Go ahead
Most Americans are shit just like most white/black/brown people
They will just stop replying and you'll be left laughing at yourself
Jason Johnson
You notice how you don't see theads whose OP image containing occupydemocrat crap much anymore? Blatant propoganda is blatant now.
Jordan Thomas
Theyre trying to force us to meme magic their shitty shilled soros campaign in defence of NN
We only serve those who deserve
Redshitters do not deserve
Isaiah Williams
>being this schizophrenic and thinking the ISP is actually monitoring YOU personally they throttle everyone dude
Grayson King
id rather have her with no make up
Nathan Walker
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Justin Martin
Share this one. Feign ignorance if called out about it. Claim you were being pro black
Nicholas Brooks
saved.
Noah Gonzalez
>You can switch mobile service providers/devices across multiple competitive options easily unless you live in bumfuck nowhere with very limited service they all seem to offer the same shit options. I was with another shit phone service but they wanted to hire pedro that doesnt want to do his job, so I just went back to one of the major and well known carriers. I bought a new phone that is supported "on all us networks" and has radios for gsm/lte/whateverthefuck and they wanted to sit there and refuse to activate it claiming incompatibility. So I just took it to majorshit's store and had it activated within an hour.
but I do live in bfe and there are no real options. I have two isps and only a few cell companies.
Xavier Brown
are you retarded? nowhere did I say it was just me. I said when the term "speed test" or traffic to a known speed testing sit is detected the throttle is lifted. its an automated script you daft cunt. its called traffic shaping, read about it.
Jaxon Hernandez
this entire argument boils down to which moneyed interest do you trust more, ISPs or Google? tho at this point i'd wager that soros just supports things his rich buddies dont like as a false flag to get the GOP voters to kneejerk in the direction they wants
pot calling the kettle black
that is just stat manipulation, so the top 20% of whites are smarter than 1 in 2 whites is true too pls delete yourself
Mason Adams
>pot calling the kettle black So there is no truth? Isn't that a logical fallacy
David Lopez
you can literally call anyone a shill if they disagree with you and potentially be right, as moneyed interest back both sides in this debate
shill has lost its meaning here
Caleb Gomez
Not when I post proof of paid shilling you fucking mongoloid.
Nolan Stewart
I'm prepared. Are you?
Jose Myers
Also should be interesting to note that anyone ever mentioning an alternative option is either just ignored, or attacked by both sides.
Alexander Fisher
Give a third opotion to keep or repeal.
Jonathan Stewart
then post some receipt or something please
what 3rd options? pls tell me, cause this is about NN standing or not
Julian Lewis
You are a joke. I link an article saying soros dumped nearly $200m into shilling for NN and you call me a shill for disagreeing. You are painfully obvious. Please keep exposing your stupidity to lurkers so they can know how to spot a shill from a mile away.
Jack Reyes
deregulate the internet, educate people on how things work and how to operate it themselves See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_radio And interestingly, the history of free radio and the FCC's history with it, and how the FCC was lobbied to all hell to shut it down en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_radio_in_North_America#Land-based_unlicensed_broadcasts " NPR and the NAB convinced the FCC to eliminate the class D license in 1979. This kept all new low-power stations from getting a license, and bumped all of the old ones down to secondary status, forcing many more off the air since then" "Lobbied by the commercial radio industry, the U.S. Congress intervened and limited the new service even further"
John Collins
>ruffalo how long until his sexual assault/child molestation accusations come to light? I give it 13 days.
Logan Campbell
That would require repealling the regulations, so it's not really a third opotion, but rather pick repeal and go from there.
Levi Carter
Why do you shit head republicans always vote against your own interests? How can you honestly support this? This about much more than money, it gives ISPs the power to censor the internet and charge you money to visit websites vs just paying a monthly fee. What is it about being Republican that makes you a corporate shill? This is no way benefits consumers.
Ryder Watson
everyone seems obsessed with that idea that without NN it would somehow turn things into a corporate run hellhole overnight though, so I'm trying to work with that absolutely retarded mentality. At this point all the NN shills are saying the same thing so often that its starting to become copypasta no really, just look through this thread alone, how much of the same is repeated for pro-NN shills
Jayden Rogers
One thing I learned in the 5 years I was in the military was that more government is not a good thing. Which is why I don't much care for NN. The quickest way to make something more expensive and at the same time worse is to get the government involved.
Nicholas Evans
you called me a shill first and that article is meaningless when it is a good bet that there are plenty of anti NN shill getting All I can do is deny and wish I was getting paid for wasting my time on Sup Forums
but see I can point to shill funding to the label shill is meaningless, you shill
Brandon Taylor
Yeah. Im pretty tired now. I've tried to explain in a few threads how this works and post some links explaining just how shady ISPs are but no one will listen.
Let them fuck themselves in the ass and then laugh when they say that the jews did in in a year or two.
Connor Cox
Read your last sentence again and ask yourself why it's got to that point. Parts of the NN regulations are classified. You are not allowed to read them. And just because it's called net neutrality doesn't mean it's neutral. Just like that tranny calling itself a woman isn't really a womn.
Michael Price
Fuck off you idiot shill
Blake Johnson
>naacp So nigger-tier propaganda is the best you can do AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
James Robinson
It'll sure end the argument once and for all one way or the other. That's the upside.
Owen Davis
Op is a paid shill
Ryan Davis
No one is saying that it's going to happen over night. Were saying that it's going to fundamentally change the way that we use the internet and it will result in censorship and higher prices. How in the fuck can you shit for brains right wingers defend this? Nothing about this benefits consumers. It's like if something has any support from democrats you shit heads are immediately against even if it will negatively effect you and your family.
Christopher Ramirez
Why would you hand over power to regulate the web to the feds? The giants will just use lobbying/regulatory capture to make sure there's no new competition.
The idea that google, facebook, twitter care about censorship is retarded, since THEY are the ones deplatforming people on the right. They simply want the right to force isps to do unlimited streaming and foot the bill for the infrastructure to support it.
Never agree to let the government get their claws into the Internet via regulation.
Eli Anderson
Yeah, watch Comcast lose customers.
Isaiah Bennett
Ah, so letting a bunch of monopolistic corporations run wild is a better option than simply having the government treat them like a utility?
Jaxson Lee
>look at all the filenames ITT >shills are playing both sides
Noah Adams
Idiot shills in this thread are actually saying people will just change ISPs
That’s impossible. In 90% of the country most ISPs have a local monopoly because they control the land line delivery systems
But don’t worry. Trump killing NN is the best way to ensure a democrat victory in 2018 midterms and 2020 presidential elections
to who? there is a monopoly and ATT is going to do the same thing
James Hernandez
It is the old soyim against goyim tactic. I prescribe 50cc of gore to drive out the shills.
Andrew Morgan
You don't need NN to prevent monopolies.
Justin Price
>No one is saying that it's going to happen over night absolutely everyone is implying it though. >t. portugal ISP internet package spam >Were saying that it's going to fundamentally change the way that we use the internet you know what else did? Smartphones And mobile devices the home computer opening up the internet to the masses instead of just the universities the development of internet protocols the advent of spam etc etc etc >and it will result in censorship and higher prices What, and pushing NN through won't? I'm guessing you didn't read one bit of my post on pirate radio The FCC can not be trusted. Not saying the corporations can, but making this an argument of "the corps vs the FCC" is making a mockery of the actual issue. >How in the fuck can you shit for brains right wingers defend this? Oh, so you're just a brainless shill. >It's like if something has any support from democrats you shit heads are immediately against even if it will negatively effect you and your family. the same thing can be said of democrats as well, mr. supermajority you don't understand one fucking bit about what's going on here, and you're thinking only with your emotions and what the media is telling you.
Elijah Hill
Its terrible for innovation. We couldve had Fiber by now if it wasnt for ISPs shutting that shit down. They don’t want any other tech company to touch their shit. I ask you, since when are monopoliges good for innovation?
Benjamin Diaz
which should be the entire fucking point, that all the pro-NN shills just entirely block out not a one of them is talking about the TWC merger Not a single fucking one
Andrew Nguyen
>Because my pic says so is why >why don't you trust .gov user?
John White
>already laws in place to prevent throttling
You nigger, those rules were set by the FCC, ISPs are arguing the FCC doesn’t have the authority to make those rules, this is what we’re trying to prevent
Lincoln White
how would a nn repeal affect the merger? how would NN affect the merger?