Why do you hate liberals pol?

We're raised to be liberals. We are MK ultra programmed to be liberals. We are sold the dream of being righteous and believe that we are fighting for the human spirit. We are conditioned to think for the greater good.

I get that its more complicated then that. But most of us are just kids, im in my mid twenties. We know nothing of war or loss. We have yet to grow to understand just how bad things really are.

We will feed on your hate if you do not reach us and neither side will get anywhere. We will just be distracted. There has to be some common ground between the two opposing forces.

I want to see some conservatives that I appreciate. I just don't wanna hear anything from Sean Hannity or Tomi lauren or anyone with some race baiting identity politics bullcrap. Give me some conservative or libertarian speakers that can actually appeal to a liberal.

I've been played into hating you people but youre just people. We are not perfect. Were corruptible and egotistical. This is me trying to break the conditioning and hoping someone out there will too.

I want to focus of these common things rather than weigh on our differences. There are bad apples everywhere. I live America so Ive seen everyone fuck up from time to time. I don't want to paint with a wide brush any longer because I would not want that for me.

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You aren't people

If you guys just admitted that niggers and spics aren't people, we could find some common ground. But you people obstinately refuse to acknowledge reality because you political benefit from lying.

europe woud be a fucking white nigger shithole if it wasnt for liberalism

There wouldn't be any niggers in Europe if liberalism did not exist.

Because poison is bad for you.
Fuck off airhead.

>Liberalism is a mental illness.

You just have more altruism for those outside the tribe.

Conservatives are just more cautious.

Pol is where the damaged/illiberal conservatives end up.

Do you think i give a fuck? Niggers arent the problem in europe its fucking white people

i love liberals
you sound like a faggot
tell me what you want and why i should care about it?

Not offensive to me, I acknowledge Im a bipedal great ape.

We are all animals imo

I don't hate liberals. I hate the Marxists who use liberals. Hating liberals is like hating the retarded kid in a wheelchair who gets pushed around by his friends to cut in line.

>We are all animals imo
That's not an opinion and it's irrelevant.

I do, I am too trusting. This has led to many incidents in my life. Thanks for the insight.

Tell me what liberals and conservatives have in common.

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it's not an insight if you were already aware of it
what do you want and why should others care?

I'm not going to embed a video
summarize your thoughts and ask a question

I dont want to be a pawn or puppet. I want to understand what all the hubub is consertivative land. If its just identity politics then you say that.

I'm not going to embed a video
summarize your thoughts and ask a question

What appeals to you about conservatism?

We don't have liberals. We know they need to be exterminated for everyone's sake, however. One of us will eventually take full control and genocides the other side. Think of Soviets and Nazis but on a global scale.

i hate conservatism, what does that have to do with your op?

I dont think that will happen. Big brother is watching.

Most people aren't conservatives here.
You need to understand it's no longer "liberal vs conservative", it's more properly "right vs left" or "nationalist vs globalist".
The current mainstream conservatives that dominate the republican party are not an accurate representation of the Alt-Right.

Im browsing conservatism to see if theres anything I find redeemable.

I get there is a lot larping hard right and a lot of not so much larping. But despite what others will say, Americans have always been good, decent, honest, freedom loving people. There are some gems to picked up here and there in this place under all the dirt.

I dont wanna scream race war no more than I want to kick trashcans. Im looking for signs of greater intelligence.

i'll elaborate the spectrum
it's still reactionary vs. progressive
moving backward vs. moving forward
in the 1980s, reactionary mapped to "conservative"
in the 2010s, reactionary maps to "liberal"
your choice, forward or backward

I'm still trying to figure out why I was never liberal. A lot of people go through a phase but I never did. I always hated the guilt sermons they gave us in school about slavery and colonialism. The minorities were always the ones starting fights and causing trouble, even selling drugs. Liberals have too much sympathy for them. I don't because they're sociopaths. Liberalism sounds nice but ultimately it's a counterfeit.

>But most of us are just kids,
>im in my mid twenties.

Pick one.

Everyone grows up. You have to choose to be an adult.

Here's a mantra for you.
>You are a terrible person.
>I am a terrible person, too.
>We will make mistakes.
>We will do wrong.
>We will live with the consequences.
>We will accept responsibility.
>That is the only way to make things better.
>It is by will alone we set our lives in motion.

this is true. Trump's presidency was born out of a disaffection for conservatism. So called conservatives aren't actually conserving anything. They always conceded to the democrats. And I'm sure at this point most of us think of Trump as a placeholder rather than someone who's going to accomplish what we want to see

I'm a liberal by nature, but modern progressives are flat Earth levels of ignoring reality when it comes to differences between the sexes, races, etc etc. If you want to be a useful liberal understand that the conservatives are far far more correct on the facts. No need to draw the same conclusions, but on matters of human nature, economics, etc etc the modern liberal narrative is so wrong it has become dangerous.

you don't understand liberal either.
you wouldn't be posting on Sup Forums without liberalism

we wouldn't need this shithole if we were free of liberalism

i hate your ignorance.
it's not progressive to ignore reality. it's REACTIONARY
please use correct language

i think you mean the enlightenment

this shit hole IS liberalism

I rekmend reading Ana Karenina to learn about it

in a sense wouldn't the entire internet also be?

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omg no. if you can't deal with trolls labeling behavior patterns as "nigger," "kike," etc., then you're not really a liberal.
The only reason this place gets the traffic it does is because most of the internet is ridiculously conservative.

Is she going to poop?

The Future is in NOT being assigned to ANY ideology, left or right.

> Each situation/individual should be judged on their merits.

When you lock yourself into an ideology, then anything that doesnt fit is bad, even if it isnt.

This is where Obama loyalists & Trump loyalists FAIL. They are so blinded by (our guy) they ignore the bad, or ignore better ideas

My 2 cents

Yeah Im pretty liberal. I dont really believe in race to be honest. Would be a vegan if I could control it. Straight tho, have gf.

What are liberals reacting to after 2010?

>reacting to
retard, look up "reactionary"
has nothing to do with reacting

Ah so liberals reactive to the rights polticial reform. Ie moving further right.

fpbp

>thinks trump is an ideology
>no sarcasm detected
>abo flag
vpn much?

what? LOOK UP THE WORD """"REACTIONARY""""

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Liberal fell for the egalitarian meme when some people are objectively better than others

Its pretty cucked and funny,

But you cant just kill unarmed people. If they are ISIS & are found guilty of War Crimes, then lock them away

why pay

Genetics drives and/or plays a large part in human development. It is important to conserve human biodiversity in order to allow evolution to continue. If evolution applies to animals, plants, and other organisms, why not humans? All of my views and most of the hard-right's views stem from this set of questions and statements.

What makes you better than other people?

is it just me, or is it a little funny how trudope goes out of his way to apologize to LGBTq's , yet sells weapons to countries where they get executed?
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only a fucking idiot would be even curious why a leaf would hate liberals.

You seek an entry level red pill user. Brother Thomas Sowell will start you along your path. Not all blacks are bad. Sadly the truly based ones are tragically rare.

Some groups of people are more intelligent than others, intelligence is about 70% genetic and 30% environmental. The average sub Saharan african IQ is 70 which is reflected in their complete failure to build any sort of functioning society without white intervention. The reason people here hate liberals is that they deny biology is real when it comes to differences in humans. Liberals are basically as stupid as Christians who deny evolution because the facts conflict with their eqalitarian everyone is equal worldview.

Transhumanist agenda will make all this obsolete. It will be us against biological, quasi-immortal, perfects with ultra intelligence backed up by by some AI.

The future you want to head toward in such a hurry is right around the corner.

So whats your solution?

Will check him out. But yes thank you, finally.

To stop denying reality. In terms of how we make public policy we do differentiate between groups of people which causes programs to either fail or cater to the lowest common denominator. It's a retardedly inefficient way to organize a society and a massive waist of resources we could be better utilizing.

Kill all the kikes

*do not differentiate

So far tho it seems like all the right cares about is identity politics. Blacks this and that. Africa, IQ. Im not even black but Im not surprised i guess.

Is that really all coservatism is about? racial identity?

Good luck, they got you by the balls.

>still hasn't looked up the word "reactionary"
would solve most of your confusion

>I dont really believe in race to be honest
This is probably why you hate conservatives- you deny reality and say shit like this, and then we laugh at you.
How can liberals say "oh conservatives just believe in God and not in evolution" but you yourself don't believe in PROVABLE differences between races?
Genetics show that there's differences in phenotype- in intellect and physique- between races. Some of it is environmental but not all.
No more welfare-state. People who work hard and are raised to be independent but moral can help each other out and do everything they can to not be a burden to others in any way. Generations raised on hand-outs don't care about education and don't try to better themselves, then make stupid decisions that hurt the upcoming generation and don't care because they were raised to cry to the government for everything.

Don't use the excuse that you're just a kid. I'm as old as you are. But I've expanded my sources and used logic and looked at arguments beyond the MSM. I've looked at history and the dissonance between what the """trusted""" sources say, and what is actually happening. Talk to a lot of people and be skeptical but *truly* open-minded. Don't make decisions on the truth of something until you can verify it for yourself.

>The future you want to head towards is right around the corner

No. Basic, widespread gene editing in humans is still 30 years out minimum. Transhumanism is at least a few centuries off. Until then race and genetics must be protected.

Liberals loudly say they support certain things (minorities, poverty, healthcare) while they secretly despise those things. Conservatives appear to not care about those same things but secretely do

Liberals loudly say they support policies to help certain causes, and yet in practice their policies prolong or worsen the endemic problems. Conservates want to solve the problems for not everybody, but everybody that can be saved

Liberals loudly say they want to help the everyman while secretely working to coalesce power amongst themselves indefinitely. Conservatives advocate getting rid of the job of administrating power entirely

no one care about conservatism in 2017
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How will you do that? How will you reach the masses, including those Africans to listen and accept your ideas. You cant just show them bellcurve and say see? See, do it?

If you had to take a standardized test against a randomly chosen black person, and whoever scored higher, would live or die. Would you take those odds without fear?

I wouldnt, because life is Ironic.

Whats the point when metallic skeletal form best form

Genuine fascist here, I'm glad you're humble enough to make an effort and I hope you're able to gain a better insight, but unfortunately at the moment I'm too busy babysitting for my niece to talk politics. Here's a fistful of redpills, try not to OD, and remember, once you start, you can't stop.

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>So far tho it seems like all the right cares about is identity politics.
What? You cannot have heard many speakers if you think THIS is what the right cares about.
The right doesn't care what color you are as long as you don't hurt them/their family/their way of life.
If you're stupid and greedy and white, they will also hate you for your policies, not for your race's average intelligence or ability to delay gratification. Those are general characteristics but if an individual is causing harm, then they are the problem, not their whole race.

Listen to Stefan Molyneux, Jordan Peterson, Ann Barnhardt, Mark Passio, anyone with conservative policies and they don't talk about race as the determining factor in whether you should hate someone.
Just coming to Sup Forums occasionally will not give you an accurate view of the nuances of right-wing ideology

So are you all just using conservatism as a mask for nationalism?

Whoever scored higher would live*

lmao my captcha word is live

As a rare large anonymous gathering place with decent free speech, the issues that are going to be talked about here will default to ones that cannot safely be discussed in public. Plus race is a very easy to understand issue so people who are shitposting about politics instead of reading about politics are going to talk about it more than complicated economic and government policy. Racial identity is a big issue because the racial conditions in the west are intolerable compared to the past and heavily violates common sense.
Lurk more and decide for yourself what is right and wrong.

you still don't know what reactionary means

It's not about killing people, it's about building a better society so that everyone benifits. We can't do that if we can't even accept basic reality.

HighImpactFlix and bright insight are pretty blue pill friendly YouTube channels

>We're raised to be liberals. We are MK ultra programmed to be liberals. We are sold the dream of being righteous and believe that we are fighting for the human spirit. We are conditioned to think for the greater good.
I called bullshit every step of the way. You were just too much of a collectivist bitch to speak up.

>Give me some conservative or libertarian speakers that can actually appeal to a liberal.
They're all shit. You can extract some odds and ends from certain people like Thomas Sowell, but none of them will ever name all the pieces. A demigod of the right simply doesn't exist.

You can't just tell people that they're dumb. You can provide statistics of standardized scores, and show that certain groups of people score lower than others. But the programs developed from that data must incentivize people to do well.
How do you instill care for future generations in a population that cannot delay gratification and only cares about what they will be given *now*?

Most people who are nationalists are also conservatives. Conservatives try to preserve the traditions, laws, and ways of life of the society. Currently we all live in nations and compartmentalization of peoples into different culture has proved at least somewhat effective way to organize society, so we want to preserve that instead of being forced into a Globalist society ruled by a centralized few.

you still don't know what reactionary means
sage

Nah molyneux has basically lost it. I liked maybe 1 of his videos, story of your enslavement before I realized he is closeted white supremacist. Like if your fans are RACE WAR NOW KILL NIGGERS GAS THE KIKES NOT AN ARGUEMENT KEK and you dont say anything about it, then you're comfortable with their larp.

Anytime I hear "these kinds of people are different" I dont wanna hear anymore. My world is inclusive. I dont want to paint with wide brush. I want to be stronger than that, even if its stupid. I relax around blacks and they have been cool to me so Im not gonna throw them under the bus and consider them monkey savages when I myself know I am just a great ape larping as something more.

>We are sold the dream of being righteous and believe that we are fighting for the human spirit. We are conditioned to think for the greater good.
I believe him on this, a good chunk of the public is pretty brainwashed into thinking they absolutely need the government and without it all the bad nationalist racists will kill the world for fun.

They only like to feel liberal.

Documentaries exposing zionism

CBS 60 Minutes Exposing Israeli Apartheid
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Israeli settlements, explained
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The Zionist Story. (Full Documentary)
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Israel Lobby
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The Israel Lobby's Impact on America
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Documentary on Israel / Palestine - Occupation
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The Pain Doesn't Go Away - Rachel Corrie's Parents on RAI (1/3)
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>why do you hate the system you were brainwashed into?

Gee OP I wonder why.

you still don't know what reactionary means

Well you need to call out your own. Who will join you when youre allied with ppl waving nazi flags and doing seig heils.

Yeah the left has ANtifa. But we are Americans, We allied with communists to kick nazi ass. You dont call them out because hey, useful idiots. But they shit up your image with the autism. Not good optics.

Let me put it this way. You people supported Venezuela when it went socialist.

>"OH MY GOD A true socialist paradise this is sooooo great"
Now you can get a fucking blowjob from a 5 year old there for 75 cents. And not a peep out of you fuckers.

Then you supported Hillary Clinton who COMPLETELY fucked over the Libyan people. They had a fairly good life in which their kids actually went to school. Now they have to worry about getting beheaded or literally sold into slavery. We also have the migrant crisis, because of that vapid cunt.

No we're not going to find common ground. When the subsidy bubble pops, your all getting stomped on the neck.

you still don't know what reactionary means
go to bed retard

the real nazis are leftists

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I mean ive seen it around pol many time. Ppl waiting for the happening. Something just to go out and kill ppl. Others completely black pilled just wanting the nuclear holocaust without fear or emotion. Complete apathy.

If you're talking about those cringey fucking neo-nazi's that like to shave their head and tat themselves up. Yea we despise those fucking people.

>I liked maybe 1 of his videos, story of your enslavement before I realized he is closeted white supremacist.
Not very open-minded of you. You just brush him off as a "white supremacist" and don't investigate his whole message?

>if your fans are RACE WAR NOW KILL NIGGERS GAS THE KIKES NOT AN ARGUEMENT KEK and you dont say anything about it, then you're comfortable with their larp.
Stupid. You think a loud obnoxious sliver of the people who agree with Molyneux somehow mean he identifies with these people? No, he's not going to spend his time apologizing for certain fans- they can have their own opinions. Anyone who listens to his videos knows he's not a supremacist, he's an individualist and a race-realist. Don't be disingenuous.

It's not "painting with a wide brush" to be a race-realist. You can acknowledge trends and still treat people as individuals.

Because you are retarded faggots.

Why dont you tell me?

you still don't know what reactionary means
go to bed retard

Oh my god shut the fuck up leaf.

you still don't know what reactionary means
go to bed retard