Why are you anti net-neutrality? Honest question, nothing else

Why are you anti net-neutrality? Honest question, nothing else.

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Because I am not a socialist, therefore I do not have an unwarranted sense of entitlement to other people's property or labor.

I am not a socialist either, but the internet is such a large and useful resource at this point.

Because you're a retard and think a bill called "net neutrality act" is that.

Because it's the video Jew forcing the telecom Jew to cater to them through anti-competitive legislation, and will have no effect whatsoever on non-video companies. Absolute worst case scenario, Google and Netflix have to pay (rightfully, in my view) the telecom companies to justify their taking >50% of the bandwidth.

It will have no effect whatsoever on the consumer, and will somewhat hinder the social engineering efforts of the video companies. The cost of Netflix might go up; other than that, nothing will happen. Nothing.

I'm not against it, I just care very little. All our attempts at regulating things over the past decade have been such a pathetic joke that I have no confidence that net neutrality as-is wouldn't cause some other regulatory clusterfuck a few years down the line.

because it'll force me to get a life.

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explain to me how removing net neutrality laws will benefit me

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Because I'm contrarian and I don't go along with the crowd just because everyone is screaming about the internet ending. It's existed for decades without NN and now it's like "ending" it will turn off the internet.

Anytime become hysterical I doubt the motives of the people pushing the hysteria. It's not for anyone's benefit except the corporations who support net neutrality

your shitty isps wont be enshrined as utilities and can have actual competition

Honest answer for everyone in here:
Because I'm a contrarian faggot who thinks it makes me cool to disagree with whatever the popular sentiment is. Because I would literally cut my hand off if liberals said having two hands was better to spite those "cucks"

Because honestly, I'd rather have mouth breathing retards priced out.

Because it's a government "solution" to a problem the government caused in the first place.

I'm pretty sure he intends on ridding the internet of ALL propaganda. THe only people able to freely use the internet will be the richest.

I am getting rather triggered, Sup Forums my safe space take your (((propaganda))) back le reddit

I don't know what effect net non neutrality will have on internet culture, if any, but I sure hope everyone starts throttling the bandwidth of the braindead echo chambers that produce faggots like this guy

dont speak for me kthx
the rest of the world does just fine without some NN laws

lol

i don't really give a shit either way. In fact, i didn't really notice a difference before and after net neutrality. what changed when net neutrality passed? i don't get it

Telecoms already pay for the bandwidth you idiot, NN prevents prioritising of traffic

>German flag
>Germany has net neutrality
OK contrarian buddy, you've showed me

Sup Forums in a nutshell

More opportunities for smaller businesses and websites opened up! :D

Yeah that's why we're all posting anonymously because we're worried that people think we're cool

Quit projecting.

If the internet gets more expensive, its going to fuck up Niggers lives more than mine.
I don't want my bits treated equally with theirs either.
haha. Niggers.

Because in a free state also the unwanted need to have the oppertunity to apply their ability.

Big government is never the answer outside of armed conflict.

Heavier barriers to entry for ISPs to start up in new areas or for new ISPs to form thanks to being treated like utilities in the line of water and power.
Having to barrel through so much legislation and paperwork is one of the biggest reasons we have areas where only one or two internet providers are available. This movement right now is just trying to take those leashes off ISPs so they can act like businesses and have room to grow so theres actually competition between the ones that exist and space for new ones to form like in other industries.

I'm not a black, but I'm still pretty poor. I would prefer not having to pay ludicrous amounts of money for normal speed for all my websites! :0

The EU rules set in place are significantly less intrusive than the american counterpart and leave much more freedom to both ISPs and consumers - a necessity to make "running the interntet" within the law practical.

publications.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/8fdf5d08-93fc-11e5-983e-01aa75ed71a1/language-en

>can have actual competition
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL not until they repeal the laws blocking startups at a local level [which jews will never let happen]

The internet was ruined when the eternal September began. Whatever your worst nightmare is about what ISPs will do to it, I hope they come true. I would love to ruin it for you and your normie millennial phoneposter contemporaries. I would love to bring dotcom bubble 2.0 to a violent pop, putting smug techies out of work forever. The thought alone makes me rock hard.

No fucking shit the telecoms already pay for the bandwidth you fucking retard. The point is that YouTube and Netflix take up over 50% of that fucking bandwidth despite being far less than 50% of the internet's usage or userbase.

With that in mind, it seems not only fair, but logical that the fucking video companies have to pay extra to the telecom companies to get them to offer equal speeds to their services, given how much fucking bandwidth that it requires to operate them and their entire fucking business being reliant on the ISP's infrastructure to begin with.

You're an absolute fucking imbecile who can't even comprehend the discussion being had, holy shit. Just sit this one out.

You're anonymous but you get to be part of the in crowd. You have so few friends in real life you come here. You probably don't agree with most of what's posted here. Or at least you didn't when you started. You thought it was all in jest so you just played along, because speaking out got you made fun of. And anonymous meant that they didn't hate you for your looks or because your social anxiety or whatever. You were made fun of on the merit of what you said. You had no other excuse to place blame on. So you start just playing along. You played along so long now you probably bought in to it a little. The echo chamber of Sup Forums thinks that a community of people with minority opinions doesn't make it an echo chamber, despite the overwhelming majority of people on here, pol especially leaning the same way. You get your few token supporters of other groups and think it means you're saying what everyone is thinking. But you're not, you're stuck unhappy on this side worried about liberal bullshit while the world goes on around you. Good job buddy.

stop being pretty poor, then?
Try being regular poor.

Weird because I've read that and what they implemented is unarguably stricter than our current net neutrality rulings?

:( I wish! It's hard to pay rent, have a dog, food, etc etc and live in seattle all at the same time... I wanna move out of here, it's fucking antifa central command, it sucks.

Also, the reason why it's hard to live here is because everything in seattle is overpriced as fuck.

The internet isn't meant for poors, you exist to serve.

Because when I was asking questions about it, the anti people gave me some facts and reasoning while the pro people just reee'd and meme'd.

Still don't know if I am making the right choice, but if I am to make an informed choice, and information is only coming from one side...

This is modern america, go back to the 1800s.

Look at you, attempting to psychoanalyze, and making unverifiable / unfalsifiable statements on the internet.

I bet you've never been kissed, and thats why you poop your pants in public.

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this is why

>waah my life is so hard voluntarily living in a metropolis
Nobody is making you live in the city. If you don't want to be poor stop paying top dollar to live in an urban center that will become your tomb if a famine or civil war breaks out.

shill

Retarded liberals tell me to support it, Sup Forums tells me that all Trump is doing is removing Obama-era directives making all this whining fucking pointless

You can eat shit either way

I already looked into the other side, seen overwhelming support, and facts, so i'm checkig out what's up with this side.

>before and after net neutrality
well considering before was 2003 you probably weren't on it much

>voluntarily
I was born here and always have wanted to move.

This is Trump's America, we own you now

People generally have no idea what net neutrality was originally, compared to what people think it is now.

The concept that ISPs should treat all packets equally is a lovely concept for anyone who hasn't dealt with managing QoS on a network with users running all kinds of bandwidth hogging apps like Spotify or Netflix, along with everything else others might need as a legitimate use case. You have limited bandwidth dependent on infrastructure.

You can:

> Throttle some users based on caps/quotas or traffic by port/packet/service, targeting worst offenders, maximizing users that are happy.
> Do nothing, ensuring some users will hog all the bandwidth so other users will have a difficult time accessing cloud accounts, websites, file servers, email, or other basic services.
> Invest in fatter pipes, expanding capacity to meet demand, ensuring everyone is happy.

If I'm a cheap BOFH, I do the first, and tell anyone who complains to fuck off. If I value "net neutrality" virtue signaling, I do the second option, ensuring bandwidth hogs grind my network to a halt to the point where Jim from Accounting can't edit his Excel spreadsheet on the fileserver because Craig the Dev insists on listening to hipster music on Spotify while watching Dear White People while he codes. The third option is my best choice.

Who pays for this? If I am the ISP, this is my business, and investments must be justified based on analysis. I can pass the cost to consumers directly, and lose them. Or, I pass the cost to the company creating and providing the bandwidth intensive service, so THEIR users ultimately pay for it.

These tech companies have become very politically connected in the past 10 years though - Soros invested in Netflix, Google is effectively an arm of the Democratic Party, etc, which effectively allowed them to set FCC policy that forced ISPs to subsidize their business model, under the guise of "net neutrality."

There is no free lunch.

You're an idiot if you make a big deal out of this. Nothing is going to happen.

I'm not, just curious.

lol you must be actually retarded.

Bc it’s more complicated than abortion. So I’m still undecided. I just know isps need more competition and NN has not helped break it up or create competition.

you know if we didn't have all these damn niggers and nigger lovers around we could probably have nice things.

What about the third option of expanding pipes?
Fiber optics is booming right now and it's expanding everyone. They're there every night in Boston (near me) and other big cities resetting pipes just to get that in.

For those who don't know. Fiber optics are basically glass wires with lasers running through them at ultra high speeds. Much faster than other standards.

Excellent post, I have no idea why people can't wrap their heads around the video companies completely fucking over the telecoms and other users with their bullshit. The sheer bandwidth they take in comparison to EVERYTHING ELSE is mindboggling.

what if i told you that all this internet censorship was just a way for the government to deflate support for net neutrality so the feds can turn the internet into TV and Radio .

last time the us tried this comcast pocketed 2bil and did nothing

Because the internet is already a giant monopoly and ISPs probably have a giant-ass hate boner against sites like youtube and facebook who chow down on their data like a sexually empowered woman chows on potato chips

The video companies should have to chip in, given that they're the sole reason that it's necessary to expand the pipes in the first place.

Fuck off shill, we aren’t stupid like you leftist scum.

This doesn’t even make sense you fucking faggot

They are.
They hire us
>t.I work on pipes.

Here is my opinion at the moment: the odds of those "package" memes becoming a reality is almost zero. Much more likely, things like Netflix/Hulu/pay porn will be charged by the ISPs based on their traffic and Pass that along specifically to their customers through premiums and if you have multiple ISPs in your area (or new ones emerge) the entrance fee to the internet may fall.

FreeTubes/Freeporn will likely see a significant die off and monopolization as advertisers compete over the remains. The worst thing to happen here would be more advertisements, but it's just as likely the ads themselves simply cost more (fewer billboards available) and that helps the remaining sites pay to keep in business.

Censorship is irrelevant, it is happening now anyways. The only people worried about Sup Forums dying are new rags and the elite; it has long been known they don't really have the balls to "invite" us to play in normieville once we don't have the option to play here.

These are my opinions as to why I want obamas 300+ page "net nuetrality" bill repealed. If censorship becomes a rampant problem, we can tackle that singular issue without special deals and pork. The law needs only one page:
>censorship of lawful content in public forums is illegal.

What do you think?

>A place where anyone can post literally anything they want or any opinion they wish is an echo chamber

Liberals want net neutrality repeal because they suck corporate dick.
You’re literally falling for a meme created by Jews. And Jews often are bad at it, too.

Makes sense.

>"package" memes becoming a reality is almost zero
>looks at portugal
heh...y-yeah guys never gonna happen

Hm, seems alright. Still not IMO optimal, but definitely not as catastrophic as the lefts predictions.

pretty sure only 5 people in Portugal have internet. in America it would be like charging water by the mouthful