If you thought the anti-NN are telecom shills-you’re right

Ive been researching on my own. Here is a big one I found
How the Telecom Lobby is Killing Municipal Broadband
Companies like Comcast are spending big bucks to prevent competition from local governments
citylab.com/life/2011/11/telecom-lobby-killing-municipal-broadband/420/

ISP lobby has already won limits on public broadband in 20 states
Bills limiting municipal ISPs in Kansas and Utah continue noble tradition.
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/isp-lobby-has-already-won-limits-on-public-broadband-in-20-states/
Add that on top of Telecoms not wanting to be labeled as utility so they can throttle and censor competition

B-but its good for small business and start ups!
Many Small ISPs Support Real Net Neutrality
eff.org/deeplinks/2017/06/isps-across-country-tell-chairman-pai-not-repeal-network-neutrality
Without Net Neutrality, Pittsburgh Startups Might Not Ever Start Up
wesa.fm/post/without-net-neutrality-pittsburgh-startups-might-not-ever-start#stream/0

So much for free market. Fuck

Other urls found in this thread:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Communications_Inc._v._FCC_(2014)
cnet.co/2jeYWrI
eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/eff-tests-agree-ap-comcast-forging-packets-to-interfere
for.tn/2Apcr35
wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/
eff.org/deeplinks/2011/07/widespread-search-hijacking-in-the-us
freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality
fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation
nyti.ms/2zZ5Dbk
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/on-net-neutrality-verizon-leads-push-for-fast-lanes/456891/
theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766
theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766/verizon-netflix-throttling-statement-net-neutrality-title-ii
youtu.be/B03eByZia5I
unvis.it/theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Also the copy pastas
B-but nothing was censored before! Thats because Verizon wasnt able to openly be asses about doing it.
The FCC had a rule that got challenged in court by Verizon in 2010 that PREVENTED ISPs from THROTTLEING OR BLOCKING WEBSITES.
Verizon won the case, only on the margins that telecommunications services needed to be reclassified as a utility (Title II) in order for a rule like that to be upheld.
This led to the massive NN debate that got us the rules in 2015.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Communications_Inc._v._FCC_(2014)
Also:
Comcast Corp. v. FCC 2007
In 2007, Free Prenss, Public Knowledge, and the FCC filed a complaint against Comcast's Internet service. Several subscribers complained/(and)The Commission believed that Comcast had "significantly impeded consumers' ability to access the content and use the applications of their choice"--Comcast complied with this Order but petitioned for a review and PRESENTED SEVERAL OBJECTIONS-in 2008, Comcast amended their Acceptable Usage Policy and announced a new bandwidth-throttling plan.
ISPs have slowly over the years been eating away at laws that protect against throttling and them not being able to control what content you see.
You fools need to realize corporations only care about their own interest
In surveys by the American Customer Satisfaction Index, XFINITY has had the lowest customer satisfaction ranking of any company or government in the U.S. for year-XFINITY’s online forums are full of pages of customers complaining of throttling, especially on upstream speeds.
Time Warner Cable has come under fire for throttling YouTube videos, an issue they defended by explaining video buffering is “the way the Internet works.
Cox has a history of throttling their Internet during congested periods. In the past, they have also set usage limits on broadband accounts, granting more usage to customers who pay for upgraded service.
cabletv.com/blog/your-objective-guide-to-internet-throttling/

Most Trumpshits just do whatever corporations command them to

The US was under the assumption that net neutrality laws applied for 30 years going. It wasn't until Verizon won a lawsuit about it that the rules no longer applied to them. They promptly began fucking everyone over:

2005 - Madison River Communications: Blocked VOIP services before the FCC put a stop to it.
cnet.co/2jeYWrI

2007 - Comcast: Caught forging packets to interfere with user traffic
eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/eff-tests-agree-ap-comcast-forging-packets-to-interfere

2007-2009 - AT&T: Blocked Skype and other VOIP services which competed with their cellphone plans
for.tn/2Apcr35

2011 - MetroPCS: Tried to block all streaming except YouTube
wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/

2011 - Multiple ISPs: Caught hijacking search traffic to increase affiliate revenue
eff.org/deeplinks/2011/07/widespread-search-hijacking-in-the-us

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon: Blocked access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit
freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

2012 - Verizon: Demanded Google block tethering apps on Android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction.
fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation

2012 - AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.
nyti.ms/2zZ5Dbk

2013 - Verizon: Literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/on-net-neutrality-verizon-leads-push-for-fast-lanes/456891/

2017 - Verizon: Caught throttling customer data in direct violation of FCC Net Neutrality rules
theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766

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Its Verizons lawyers and Telecoms with this shit.

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Lobbying and bribing (corruption) is the issue, not the matter at hand.

There is no real solution other than to stop what I just said.

This is a confirmed ISP™ Anti-NN shill meme poster. Move along, nothing to see here.

This is cringey as fuck. Eat shit, shills.

>theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766/verizon-netflix-throttling-statement-net-neutrality-title-ii
am I missing something here or did verizon do the thing despite regulation?
why do we want regulation again

Im not a shill you niggers, i just oppose anything reddit supports, but i would be happy to get paid to shitpost.

They're not shills, they're trolls. They're baitposting because people are stupid enough to give them a reply every single time.

>Admits to being a contrarian instead of remotely intelligent

Does it even fucking matter? If you're fucking dumb enough to fall for obvious like this....WTF does that say about you? Like you're really so fucking delusional that you think NN is not in your best interest? It's like drinking gasoline levels of moronic.

Honestly, after seeing how retarded Sup Forums is being....I'M FOR ANTI-NN now. FUCK Sup Forums! ANTI-NN will eliminate the cancer that is Sup Forums and the alt-right internet. The alt-right internet makes no money compared to main-stream liberal and main-stream conservative stuff. Let the ISP's sell band-width to the highest bidders, I'm fucking fine with that, because the highest bidders won't be anything like the cancerous shit that has developed from an unregulated internet. The internet will just be complete normie shit. I can handle that as long AS I NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOU FUCKING RETARDS EVERY AGAIN! I'll see you all on the other side, posting on tumblr/reddit hybrid that won't let you even say the word "Hilter".

>inb4 muhh competition will keep the alt-right safe. MUHH FREE MARKET!
Most people only have one ISP available you fucking twats.

>inb4 BUTT AT LEAST ALL THE LIBS SITES WILL GO AWAY
Check the numbers retards, those sites generate magnitudes more money than alt-right shit. They won't go away. They will just push "non-normies" out of the market. That is the ultimate consequence on anti-NN.

nice filename

The fuck are you on. Did you even read the OP dumb libshit fool

Fuck off Verizon

Shill get out!
CHOP!

good post user, this guy gets it!

Sup Forums is overrun with Shill™ posters atm. Probably to distract Sup Forums from doing anything remotely useful like it attempts to do whenever something crops up that can target it.

lol even your graphic is busted ass years out of date horse shit. gtfo pajeet

How the retards can pull the "most places only have one ISP" and somehow not realize the OIO (not net neutrality you fucking faggots its the Open Internet Order) discourages any ISP competition. I mean this is literally kindergarten business class REGULATIONS HURT

Anytime someone accuses their opposition of being shills it's proof that have no argument. It's funny how someone is only a shill when they beat retards like you in arguments.

I know how we can stop it! How about we elect some deranged billionaire who made a lot of money through the benefits of lobbying and corruption? Like a guy who is really really rich compared to all other previous presidents or candidates, like he benefited magnitudes more that all the other super rich from lobbying and corruption! Like he benefited so much he refuse to even show his tax return and he even brags that not paying taxes makes him better! Surely this mega-alpha male he will stop lobbying and corruption....and care about the plight of the working man!

>inb4 something something shillary

Don't they know that the dab pepe is a honeypot?

>Most people only have one ISP available you fucking twats.
And we get to the crux of the problem of which pro-/anti-NN niggers never seem to address.

Can anyone even tell me what the fuck all this shit is about

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>being able to be a bitch on the internet like you are in real life
>plight of the working man

This is what soyboys actually think

CHOP

Point proven

Oh so you are just retarded then? Go do some actual research and form you own god damn opinion.

Nobody here works for an ISP. If it weren't for net neutrality my entire tri-state area would have 1gb speeds. Net-neutrality = non competes = monopolies/pricefixing. You can encourage competition while setting parameters for infrastructure. Fuck John Oliver

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You're fucked either way.

How is that a problem? That is the free market!
The existing companies made deals with each other to divide up the territory. FREE MARKET!

And new company can still sell you shit! FREE MARKET! The entry level into the market is too high though, because only a select few can afford to lay cable and lines. It's still a FREE MARKET though!

It's like you're complaining "why won't the coca-cola corp pump root beer directly into you house? what happened to the free market?"...THE FREE MARKET FUCKING SPOKE AND LAYING DOWN NEW PIPES TO JUST SELL YOU SHIT IS TOO EXPENSIVE! KEK

ISP are shilling to end net neutrality and leftists and Google are shilling to keep an Obama regulation called "Net Neutrality" that gives the FCC control over the internet. It doesn't matter who's right as long as the debate keeps people from figuring out what net neutrality actually is, reading the regulations in question, and/or talking about ending ISP monopolies on the state and local levels and using anti-trust laws to break up Comcast and Verizon so that actual competition exists. As a rule of thumb if someone labels themselves pro or anti NN in regards to the FCC's current repeal plan you should assume they're either a complete retard or a corporate shill.

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>literally no argument or rebuttal
>something about how much he hates soy?
Sup Forums was a mistake. I won't miss it when it is gone. Thank God the we are getting rid of this place!

Net Neutrality is just more socialist handwaving so the government can do the job their elected leaders failed to do.

They'll add more and more government power until it becomes full-blown communism.

The thing about socialists and communists: They don't work.

I guarantee you if NN isn't repealed we'll have people start complaining "Why isn't the government providing more infrastructure"
BUT WAIT
They (Democrats) already tried that in the 90s and guess what happened? They pocked the money and to this day continue to embezzle tax subsidies.

Reddit supports breathing air. Better get that noose ready to BTFO SJW's.

Thank you.

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>literal fucking retards
KEK

>can't provide argument

thank you for reinforcing his point

As terrible of an image this is, it's basically what happened with the recent Netflix vs Verizon lawsuit.

Netflix quickly payed Comcast for a fast lane, but not Verizon. Thanks to NN they didn't have to pay for a fast lane.
So why does Netflix still have a fast lane with Comcast if they don't need it with NN?

>there are people who unironically support Netflix, even though Netflix sucks Comcasts dick
>s-shut up Comcast shill

hmmm really niggers my noodles

>getting rid of net-neutrality will make Netflix have more shitty shows

>posting reddit meme image
I really believe you now

>government sponsored monopolies is free market

government regulation is never a good thing. The absolute reason NASA failed is because of government regulation. think about it nigger

Anyone that is for net neutrality is a soros shill

tell me you're just trolling

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CHOP

Nobody ever seems to respond to this for some reason. We have hard evidence that net neutrality is stopping ISPs from fucking us in the ass, I don't know what more people want.

>We were able to enforce NN before Title II regulations
>After Title II regulations Verizon still violates them and gets off scott free

Really makes you think.

Yes my little goyim, keep promoting Net Neutrality (tm) for us.

spaceX is a hit, PRIVATIZED

>what are anti-trust laws

NN just lets FCC have full control. Before NN, states had control. Who are the biggest pushers of NN? Democrats. I wonder why is that? Is it because maybe, hmmm... they don't work? So they want someone else to do their job?

Fuck socialists. Do your fucking job.

NN does not give FCC full control, it gives them the power to step in to stop abusive consumer practices such as throttling. I don't care who is for or against it, I myself see no benefit to repealing it.

Please point me to major fines or lawsuits revolving around Title II from 2015- present day

I think it's more antitrust laws. I've had both comcast and time warner. Omg that was bad. I have charter spectrum now and it is ELITE.

see, the only arguments anti-NN shills have are vagueries of how the free market or small government should work. They don't have anything to stand on because its clear as day that big telecom exert even bigger influences on state governments than federal government. How is a small state going to fight off influence of mega billion dollar multinationals?
NN doesn't prevent state governments from pushing even harder on big telecoms, yet they haven't done so.

They never address the actual points of what big telecom has ACTUALLY DONE to fuck people over as soon as they see the government get lax on enforcing NN.

Fuck off google / goybook & soros shill. REPEAL net neutrality. Those who want to censor us are for it 100%

>NN does not give FCC full control
False.

>it gives them the power to step in to stop abusive consumer practices such as throttling
Anti-trust laws already allow them to do this. The difference is now they don't need permission from anyone. They have full control.

>I don't care who is for or against it, I myself see no benefit to repealing it.
Because you're a poor dumb indoctrinated socialist.

Your the shill

NN does prevent states. It gives FCC full domain over the issue. States have to do what FCC tells them in regards to NN. They are not allowed to "push harder".

>how is a small state going to fight off influence
So instead of knowing how, you propose "vagueries" yourself?

Liked I said, do your fucking job socialists.

>anti-trust laws
>being enforced
anti trust suits take years to go through the system. and its clear they're not being enforced enough in regards to telecom, with local governments effectively passing .

Sure, we can talk about getting rid of NN after they actually enforce these laws. But even then it would be chaos. You might get two options and they'll both do anti-competitor throttling which is just bad for consumers.

braaaaaaaaa--w--wait a minute?
>reads about Jews and usury
this is ubsetting

>literally admitting to being a lazy worthless socialist

They take years because Democrats don't do their job. Dumbass.

Net neutrality is government regulation of the internet. Regulation of prices, content and bandwidth will be regulated by the government. This is a social service that is funded through taxation. There are people out there that eat up 1000GB a month, you will pay the same as they do.

No net neutrality is no government regulation, NO taxes NO beaurocracy NO rider agendas
only the market can decide where internet regulation rests. The jews will let anything endure as long as they profit for it. There are people out there that eat up 1000GB, they will pay more than you will.

A note to this is that government regulated programs are bloated with bureaucracy. service will decline, anti lawsuit censorship will ensue, thought crimes will become reality. ICANN is already hosted in the UK, that's only part of our demise when it comes to our first amendment.

What it comes down to is whether you trust the government or the consumers.

lots of states have passed monopoly laws for the telecoms. Clearly states don't have the best interests of consumers in mind.
and if FCC doesn't have "full control" or this wouldn't be happening.

>implying i said anything of the sort
>implying you're not just a telecom shill pretending to be against things Sup Forums doesn't like

His what?

this, fuck off shills, NN has to go because FANG are literally CIA front companies trying to genocide us.

Again. All allowed because of worthless complacent Democratic socialists.

You want people to start doing their job? Stop voting for these morons.

You want gibsmedats? Keep voting for them.

>merely pretending

Anyway , here's Weev on net neutrality. He's a pretty funny guy. youtu.be/B03eByZia5I

Obviously we need to fix and strengthen our anti-trust laws.

i don't vote democrat fucktard.

there seems to be really greedy and shitty on both sides of the arguments which leads me to believe that no matter which way this goes, normal average people are getting fucked in the ass

the only question is whose dick is going to do the fucking

>if you dont shill for facebook and google you shill for comcast
You know what? I'm glad for this.
Your tears will make having to endure your shrill voices worth it.

>Clearly states don't have the best interests of consumers in mind.
What makes you think the federal government does?

>t.Google shill

>reddit and every leftist endorses NN laws
Really activates the almonds.

It rellies on public subsidies too much like Tesla.

because we currently have a NN-ish law in place by the FCC which protects us.
haven't seen any states that have passed anti-censorship laws like that.

You mean the same FCC that is trying to repeal NN?

>all these faggots ready and willing to bend over and receive the Comcast Jewish cock

What happened to you Sup Forums?

That's not an argument

Do there exist companies more based than Google, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, and the ACLU? Together we will take on the big corporate bastards :^)

So we want this guy incharge of the internet?

>implying we already aren't

Never said it was. It's an observation.

>Nobody ever seems to respond to this for some reason. We have hard evidence that net neutrality is stopping ISPs from fucking us in the ass, I don't know what more people want.

Except it literally shows the direct opposite.
>2017 - Verizon: Caught throttling customer data in direct violation of FCC Net Neutrality rules
theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766

It shows, regardless of the law, the corrupt megacorps do whatever the fuck they want, and abuse customers even if it's illegal since they can make more money that way.
Only way to fix this is to make it bad enough for people to scream for other options.

>What it comes down to is whether you trust the government or the jew.
ftfy

Troll farms in Russia and Drumpftards are being paid to promote this bullshit

What if we archive it
unvis.it/theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766