Devs Nov 22 >SAA begin final phase of NE Hama offensive, following month long op W. of the Khanasser Hwy, broke through HTS front at Mustariha >SAA continue to advance in SE Deir Ezzor, 4th Div is 15 km of reaching Tiger Forces lines near Mayadin >Sochi talks today between Ru, Iran, Turkey/ Sy opposition meets in Riyadh, negotiations committee leader resigns >Israel won’t allow Iran to gain foothold in Syria, Netanyahu tells Putin in phone conversation >HTS attempts to infiltrate town of Ma’an by sneaking into army outposts, embedded SAA units pushed them to retreat >IDF have been monitoring closely the SAA recent advances near the Golan Heights in Beit Jinn pocket >Abadi says IS has been defeated from military perspective, will only declare final victory after Iraq desert cleared of them >Hariri will hold off presenting resignation as prime minister in response to request from president Michel Aoun to allow more dialogue >Hariri slams Iran over Syria while praising Bin Salman's "vision" in recent interview with KSA media >Lebanese Army increase presence along Israeli border following IDF’s repeated violations in occupied Sheba’a Farms area
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>No more ‘fighting ISIS?’ US to stay in Syria to prevent ‘win’ for Assad and Iran – report
The US plans to keep its troops in Syria long after the defeat of IS – the goal used to justify their illegal presence in the first place – because the Syrian government and its ally Iran would “win” if they were withdrawn, the Washington Post reported. The Trump administration is “expanding its goals” in Syria to include a “potentially open-ended commitment” to support the Kurd-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), the newspaper reported on Wednesday, citing several anonymous US officials. The change comes as the defeat of the Islamic State (IS, formerly IS) terrorist group in Syria seems imminent.
>Washington has been justifying its deployment of ground troops in Syria, which violates the embattled nation’s sovereignty, by citing the need to fight IS. US Defense Secretary James Mattis last week went so far as to erroneously claim that the US had been given a mandate to be in Syria, stating: “You know, the UN said that … basically we can go after IS. And we're there to take them out.”
While Washington has a history of skipping UN approval for its military interventions, be it in Syria or in other sovereign states, it appears that the semblance of legitimacy for keeping hundreds of troops in Syria is about to be dispelled. WaPo sources say that Washington actually sees its boots on the ground as a source of leverage in dealing with the government of President Bashar Assad and his allies.
“An abrupt US withdrawal could complete Assad’s sweep of Syrian territory and help guarantee his political survival – an outcome that would constitute a win for Iran, his close ally. To avoid that outcome, US officials say they plan to maintain a US troop presence in northern Syriaand establish new local governance, apart from the Assad government, in those areas,” the newspaper said.
>'Young & inexperienced': Iran's Revolutionary Guards slam Macron over missile program remarks
The chief of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard Corps has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron as being "young and inexperienced," claiming those characteristics were behind the leader's recent remarks on Tehran's ballistic missile program. Mohammad Ali Jafari took aim at the French president on Thursday, Reuters reported, citing state TV. It followed comments that Macron made during a visit to Dubai on November 9, when he suggested amending the JCPOA, the key agreement on Tehran’s nuclear program, despite eight International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reports confirming that Iran has fully complied with the deal. The French leader said that the “ballistic activity of Iran” should be renegotiated – though it is not covered under the accord – “with sanctions if necessary.”
>Later that day, Macron made a surprise visit to Saudi Arabia where he said that he was "very concerned" by Iran's ballistic-missile program. He argued that the missile used in a failed attack on Riyadh from Yemen earlier this month was “obviously” an Iranian missile.
"We have told French leaders on several occasions that the Iran nuclear deal is not negotiable,” said Foreign Ministry spokesman Bassam Ghassemi, according to IRNA. "France is fully aware of our country's firm position that Iran's defense affairs are not negotiable."
It may work I think. Sochi and Astana will carry on with deciding the future of Loyalists' territory, meanwhile US will work around it's Kurdistan. Only way of dealing with it somehow would've been Loyalists invading SDF literally right now, when there's still Islamic State around. Interesting and dangerous stuff.
Ryan Wilson
>behind him* hello erdogan using a romanian proxy i see
Ryder Scott
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Oliver Thomas
Common /sg/ do something fun, im lurkin all day theres nothing interesting
Hunter Hughes
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David King
>>No more ‘fighting ISIS?’ US to stay in Syria to prevent ‘win’ for Assad and Iran – report They will lose more than they'll gain.
Aiden Rogers
>Loyalists invading SDF Wont the Americans attack the loyalists in such a scenario?
Landon Sanchez
dumb frogposter
dumb frogposter
Chase Jenkins
I blame the jews
Charles Lee
Also, the turks barely contain themselves on attacking the kurds, it's a matter of time until they "accidently" bomb some SDF positions. What will the US do? Fight a war against Syria AND Turkey?
Benjamin King
technically no, unless directly attacked but again who knows, they might use it as the perfect excuse to do a 2003 style regime change
Oliver Adams
Presence of US troops in the Euphrates Valley is probably insignificant, it's mostly local tribals and some SDF militants, if the loyalists strike there it might've worked. Also Russian stance on this would be a huge difference, for example if RuAF supports the push, in this case full escalation of USAF targeting loyalists might happen as well.
Andrew Nelson
>right now, when there's still Islamic State around hmm yeah, thats a good point.. but that would be streaching quite a lot and there is still idlib problem
Ian Hughes
The risk is huge indeed, from the military point of view but If they don't do this at all the country will be effectivelly divided.
Christian Wood
I envision an insurgency of Sunni Arabs on SDF territory against the American presence backed by Damascus. Like Lebanon in 1983 but worse.
Liam Mitchell
correct. I am not saying they gonna succeed. I am just saying this is what they will try to do.
their plan has backfired in the short term because of the renewed level of regional unity, both at an internal and intra-regional level.
if every regional player carries a bucket of water the souhyani's and their amriikan allies will be washed away.
hopefully they realise that all they need is unity
Brandon James
Yeah, insurgency is a possibility, especially given how unorganized the SDF militia and it's territory is. Add up Shias "working" on the Syrian-Iraqi border and it may be some serious problem for keeping the region stable for US/SDF.
Christian Lopez
Is there any indication that insurgency will happen ?
Ian Phillips
Turkey intervening or letting their durkas do the job against SDF would surely be a game changer but they yet to make their move. yeah that technicality didnt work for the SU-22 pilot did it. >Presence of US troops in the Euphrates Valley is probably insignificant What about the 4000 US soldiers? are they not being used here or are they just stationed in Raqqa? >Also Russian stance on this would be a huge difference, for example if RuAF supports the push, in this case full escalation of USAF targeting loyalists might happen as well. Escalation is the only reason the Russians and the Americans have not come to blows.
Tyler Russell
he deserved to be shot down for flying in SU 17
Colton Walker
That's a prototype Kalashnikov
Luke Nguyen
I would have thought the Sturmgewehr was the prototype for the thompson. It doesn't matter, i'm just interested in historical accuracy.
Jonathan Myers
>Is there any indication that insurgency will happen ? Nay, not yet at least. People are tired by war, keep in mind whole population of Euphrates Valley was living under Islamic State rule for over 3 years. But in the future who knows? I'm sure if SDF forces it's rule on the population it may backfire on them. Not in the nearest future tho >What about the 4000 US soldiers? are they not being used here or are they just stationed in Raqqa? I think they were just needed to finish Raqqa operation, it was the only purpose. Doesn't change the fact (I've calculated it sometime ago) that average US personel per base in Syria is officialy ~30, which is a blatant lie of course. So you might be right, that these people were scattered all over the SDF-held territory.
Henry Gonzalez
>150613104 first one in my basket
Parker Cox
>worst ghouta ran out of salt just like in my chinese cartoons
Daniel Davis
guys I had a dream about her last night. idk how to feel
It's all good /sg/ user, it's a bully free zone. You have creativity, hop on over and let's meme.
Austin Sanders
1$ were 28-32₽ in 2013 1$ is 59-62₽ now.
Camden Price
Well, Erdoland is not under sanctions from half the planet tbqh.
Samuel Gray
Was 80₽ in 2016, recovered well after that. Whereas TRY has been decaying exponentially for 10 years because Kang Roach just can't help mouthing off.
Robert Adams
Fall of ₽ is not just sanctions. Moreover, I see that sanctions is really small part of that.
Ryder Rogers
The ruble became rubble when the sanctions hit hard, as far as i see it. What do you believe truly happened? Purposeful de-valuation? Fault of corruption?
Nathaniel Johnson
USA and Soviet union back in ww2. Reminds me of US with kurdos now.
Nolan Edwards
k*rd superpower by 2020 then?
Blake Sanders
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Lucas Richardson
No. US enemies of the future.
William Watson
>Thats a kalashnikov that copied from the thompson you mean a kalashnikov that copied from a sturmgewehr ( the cartridge at least - before this becomes a talking point )
I know. the previous thread warned not to fall for the bait. so I provided a meme /k tier response, which itself was bait. and now you smell like a fish, freshly landed.
as a matter of interest (no troll) when did the thompson become a thing?
Wyatt Gray
>Syrian Army breaks into jihadist bastion near occupied Golan Heights BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:20 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) scored another big advance near the occupied Golan Heights this week, capturing several sites that were under the control of Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham.
Led by their elite 42nd Brigade of the 4th Mechanized Division, the Syrian Arab Army kicked off the day by storming the Beit Tima from the recently captured town of Kafr Hawr.
The Syrian Arab Army was able to impose full control over the hilltops surrounding Kafr Hawr and Beit Tima before taking control of the southern part of the aforementioned town.
Beit Tima was originally under a reconciliation deal with the government; however, Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham recently entered the town and violated the terms of the agreement.
He's obviously a satanic maniac whose hatred of bakeries and chairs is only surpassed by an irrational hatred of jewish political interests
Luis Hernandez
how are you doing brahs?
Gabriel Butler
so lame they got 1:1 kill ratio with israeli troops in cast lead.
i'll agree as long as we recognise the implications of the statement and how they fall on other parties
Ethan Jones
Fine, thanks, enjoying the time when I can sit on my ass, drink tea and do nuffin How about ya?
Christopher Cooper
I'm being depressed about my job prospects after a linguistics course also hungry
Kayden Hall
I should study but I shitpost instead
Ryder Long
>as a matter of interest (no troll) when did the thompson become a thing? near the end of ww1, i think 1918-1919 but im not 100% sure
Jayden Stewart
>you mean a kalashnikov that copied from a sturmgewehr ( the cartridge at least - before this becomes a talking point ) That Kalashnikov in the pic shoots 7.62x25mm tokarev and was created before the ak-47 you are confusing it with. >as a matter of interest (no troll) when did the thompson become a thing? way before the sturm.
Ryder Johnson
I know that feeling all too well
James Ward
>thompson Production started in 1921... its safe to say it came about ALOT eariler than the Sturm44
Hudson Murphy
i fucking wish my life was this stressless
Jackson Stewart
>way before the sturm.
yeah - thanks, but I expected a higher quality answer. your answer is vague, unquantifiable - essentially meaningless.
should we try that again? WHEN ( i.e. provide specific information to satisfy this 'ACTION INITIATING WORD' in the sentence. WHEN requires an actual factual response that can be provided in acceptable and recognised date formats internationally.
oh yeah i'm sure life is tough going to the welfare bureau every year. gotta bring papers to confirm your income and shit. sit next to undesirables on the subway. what a drag
Luke Martinez
look at srilanka here .
srilanka comes from the third world. srilanka can into providing answers which satisfy the question. he can do so in a language which is not his home language.
why is srilanka able to provide answers which satisfy the questions but bestburgerfrombestburgerland cannot.
is the le 56% meme true?
thank you lanka
Zachary Bennett
Hey the Pak50 got a SU number SU 57
Xavier Rogers
t. wagecuck/can't afford a gaming pc/uses a 7years old laptop
Landon Lee
You didn't know? It has been a fact for some months now tbqh.
Isaiah Cooper
t. useless member of society/can't afford regular pc/ lost his computer during travel
Kevin Robinson
Random Sup Forumsack here, how long now until Assad is in complete control? Any good speculation/predictions on what the US-Russia deal will entail for the future of Syria
Daniel Myers
It's a pity bognroach is not here, I wanted to prepare a set of images and do the whole spongebob intro with like >ARE YOU READY /sg/? >Who lives in a panrabic baathist dream? >-Kurdhater bongroach! >obnoxious and arab and christian is he. >If pan-arabic nonsense be something you wish ... >Then post on /sg/ and b8 him like a fish!
but as he's not ehre, meh
Josiah Garcia
>compelte not for a long time unless burgers fuck off but they will hold mostly everything when Idlib falls so...next summer Syria should be mostly unified
Michael Campbell
God damm Why are Soviet/Russian Jets so damm Sleek and sexy Also...what is a S vent and why does /k/ blow a fuse when its mentioned
Jeremiah Walker
>how long until Assad is in complete control? It all depends on how the rebels react to the current peace talks. Realistically speaking, they won't give up their arms this easy. While Assad's position as president is complete stable, there is still some fighting to be done. The burgers are an obstacle with their SDF puppets, who want indepedence, but realistically, they won't get it unless the burgers go out of their way to do it themselves. 1 year left, tbqh, until the most probable end of the civil war and Syria should stay completely united, albeit a Russia-tier federation.
