Anyone else notice this phenomena? Either they're doubling down and becoming ancaps, or they're going in the opposite direction into the alt-right and getting more into race and immigration as issues.
It's almost like libertarianism is too boring now.
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Libertarianism is based on the idea of live and let live; if you don't break my leg nor pick my pocket you have a right to do it.
Sadly, people are stupid fucks and people can use this to destroy societies, cultures and commit genocides.
It's not that libertarianism is boring, it's idealistic and cannot exist in the real world.
It's because it finally clicked for them that a philosophy of "I leave you alond and you leave me alone" only works if everyone subscribes to it, or if you have Mcnukes to fling at people who fail to leave you alone
Libertarians are mostly just academic cucks who decry the government while being too afraid to challenge them, because they don't want to risk losing all the money that the government ALLOWS them to keep.
Fuck me. If they go Ancap it's a net positive. Grow some fucking balls you kike slaves.
Why not find a media or political party which has weight, especially in the states where there are only two options that "matter"
It gets tiresome if you're in an area where your ignored
The US government has zero legitimacy or authority and will be destroyed soon.
What dictates legitimacy to you
And an African warlord with 10 children has some degree of authority, so how does the US government have zero?
I think it has to do with even many libertarian organisations being over taken by the left. Also (((they))) make it impossible to stay neutral. That's what they are always talking about. I predict almost all republicans will go almost full alt right within the next two years of become democrats. There will be no middel ground in the future they will froce you to make your decisons.
Dude bro why cant we just, like, get along and stuff?
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Libertarianism, except maybe Ancapistan, is the easiest system to get to work, simply because it has no other goal than "mind your own business, or face the consequences".
The modern state-capitalistic nation, in theorym literally only exists for three reasons: Protect the nation from external threats. Resolve internal conflict between citizens (crime / legal disputes), and saving weak humans from Darwinism. Libertarianism just wants to reduce that to two reasons, by removing the last one.
I'm not so delusional, that I don't think a hardcore Libertarian nation would quickly turn into two: the rich paradise where technology, wealth, and health would prosper, and a densely populated shithole, guarded by private McShootfirst security company and self-regulating in the sense that people who turn poor would be pushed out within a short timeframe by the exorbitant prices.
Just look a Singapore / Malaysia. Now I know Singapore is not exactly Libertarian, but it's probably one of the most advanced nations that follows the "adapt or die" / individualistic kind of mindset, while Malaysia is still recovering from their shitty idea of communal rule. Such a modern example really puts it into perspective, what the role of a government in a modern advanced nation is: Optimize legislation such that it either maximizes growth or tax revenue, depending on what's currently needed, and redistribute to the losers of society. This is also why leftists get mad as fuck at the government, because it tends to legislate in favor of capital; well fucking duh, capital is what pays your free shit(tm).
If they go fascist, they were never really a libertarian because they would understand why authoritarianism does not work if they knew anything about libertarianism. They may have headed down the libertarian path briefly, attracted by the prospect of legal drugs as a ripe 18 year old, but chances are, they put no time or effort into really learning the libertarian position. Then they become fascist because they are weak and can't deal with their degenerate life unless a government forces them to or they are just power hungry sociopaths who want to control others. Then they come on Sup Forums and are like "hurr durr I usd to b libberterrian but now I am grownup therefore im natsoc hurr durr down with degenrisy"
As far as I'm aware, most (all?) libertarian ideas have not been adequately rebutted, and the ancap/libertarian position is effectively an uncontested rebuttal to all forms of statism (including fascism). Anyone who can be exposed to the many rebuttals of statism offered by libertarian thinkers, and then become a fascist, well.. these people just don't exist, which is why I say that "former-libertarian-fascists" were never really libertarian in the first place. They were probably just attracted by some of the appealing aspects of the ideology, like being free to do what they want in their rebellious years, but never really understood the real power of freedom because they never tried.
Can you give a quick rundown on this Malaysian communal rule? Sound interesting
Dogmatic, vanilla Libertarianism has some obvious glaring holes in practical applications.
1. Assumption of free movement of labor to fill in labor shortages
>"no borders to maximize gdp growth, goyim"
2. Prioritization of cold Darwinism without regard for externalities and loss of local culture
>those fags that say "the free market will fix it" without realizing that the free market is inherently going to chase the lowest common denominator with "mass appeal" to maximize shekels
ideology is bad news. they're growing up.
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But libertarian allows for evils like fractional reserve banking and debt based fiat money. I am free to "barter" and use bitcoin, right? So it can be said that in and of itself the Globalist banking system is allowed under libertarianism... but such banking practices have been responsible for wars for the last 200 years with much death and destruction; and it made the bankers rich and powerful
Libertarianism means your neighbor can argue against your community's religion, can advocate decadence and the destruction of the family, can advocate multiculturalism. Yet, it destroys your culture and will result in genocide of your people.
Ergo, Libertarianism is a logical fail. It is irrational to adhere to a political philosophy that kills your people and exterminates your philosophy.
I agree with the general sentiment, but it's certainly possible to move further right from the milk and toast "live and let live" libertarianism, and personally, I never was convinced by all of the ancap arguments. But yeah, I certainly see those extreme form of larpers you're talking about on this board
This. The weak have always banded together to take resources back from the strong. Libertarianism just means abandoning the responsibility you have to the collective which will cause them to mass revolt. People need the strong to rule
>if you don't break my leg nor pick my pocket
I cannot think about a single civilization that didn't involve significant leg-breaking and pocket-picking.
I would almost argue that those two things are essential features of human nature and of human societies.
>No libertarian society has ever existed.
More evidence to support that the libertarian philosophy is not a real world philosophy.
Just like there has never been an atheist society. If there was one, it died out.
>More evidence to support that the libertarian philosophy is not a real world philosophy.
Libertarianism is a "good-times ideology". When everything is working smoothly, society is prosperous, and all of those sacrifices made by better and stronger men are being forgotten... That's when a 5'1" "intellectual" shows up telling everyone it's ok to be greedy and selfish.
Just google it. Malaysia has been run by left-wing Malayans, and part of the reason why Singapore is so capitalistic, is because racism was rampant (and still kinda is) against the Chinese in Malaysia. As a result, the Chinese and those who opposed the socialist / communist parties in Malaysia were forced to Singapore, which would then become the greatest success of the 20th century.
It’s the natural, moral, and logical progression to see state violence as immoral.
I don’t see it as a bad thing, maybe in 200-300 years it will get there, but there’s lots of time for the republic.