SOCIALISTS ARE WINNING THE BATTLE OF IDEAS

Is this true, Sup Forums?
Are we losing?

currentaffairs.org/2017/11/socialists-are-winning-the-battle-of-ideas

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I mean, they DO have a point there....

>Are we losing?

No, half of us are National Socialists or sympathetic of National Socialists.

No loss here.

>commies think they'll be the ones to pick the carcass of runaway capitalism
yeah no

does the media lie?

there you go

What, exactly, are the economic policies under a "National Socialist" system?

All this is Wishful liberal thinking for every one of them there's probably 50 of us

National Socialism is the only thing that's growing around here. The International Socialists are hated by everyone, even the Muslims who used to vote for them en masse have decided voting is against Islam ahahahaha

isn't part of the disdain of markets that you have to work and potentially associate with niggers? As i've become more far right i've found myself questioning markets because of all the shitskins i must associate with

Mixed economy

so, socialism?

why this young people shouldn't be allowed to vote desu. They simply do not have enough experience with this world and are too easily manipulated.

Nah give it a couple of years for them to real in the real world, that is off campus, making ends meet, then you will see that this group has broken out into several and has changed voting patterns dramatically

The right has responsibility.

Good luck keeping competent people socialist.

No worries. Gen Z is aware of your bullshit

yes, but not for third world monkeys and subversives oh and no juden
sorry, not sorry

>why this young people shouldn't be allowed to vote desu. They simply do not have enough experience with this world and are too easily manipulated.
the sheer amounts of irony typing this on Sup Forums, of all places

...

Didn't Trump get memed into office though?

So, you basically admit the article is correct and the Left wins the battle of ideas - you just want to gild it with stupid a thin veil of right-wing MUH NIGGERS MUH HERITAGE xenophobia?

Oh definitely, economic conservatism is fucking dead.

Pol lives in a bubble that they refuse to pop

>leftards only have ideas
>they are incapable of doing things
>when they try to do something they ruin it

gen Z has yet to enter the workforce

Why are retarded American kids pretending that communism is just the government stealing the rich people's money and giving it to them instead?

Gen Z is the most racially diverse generation thus far while also the most 'redpilled' ... coincidence?

Young people are identifying as socialists because they have no idea what socialism is. What greater irrelevance can there be?

Nigga we just want to be left alone. They can't wrap their heads around that one simple idea.

>Young people are stupid naive idealists
What else is new? When they make it into the real world they turn conservative real quick in my experience

they are losing the battles on race though.

Not marxist socialism.

Hitler valued the individual and he knew the importance of people being individuals, but what they do much be in accordance with the principles and values of the country.

Id say it was 60% socialism 40% capitalist. They had private property and everything.

It sounds like a satiric headline from the Dailystormer.

"Why are feminists so popular ?"
"Effeminate feminists allies drown in pussy"

I make more money than most of pol and came from absolutely dirt poor nothing and still support infrastructure in place to become a social safety net for all.

The taxation is theft meme will die with our parents and nothing will stop that lmao

Name a leftist idea any leftist has tried to implement with success. You need right wing folks to maintain systems, left wing folks are almost purely hypothetical.

National labor service, Universal healthcare, pensions, agrarian settlement programs, and other forms of welfare.
Of course, this was only provided to Germans, and those who were fit.

It was anti-Marxist and simultaneously anti-Capitalist.

Let me guess
>polls

>So, you basically admit the final solution is correct and the right wins the battle of ideas - you just want to gild it with stupid thin veil of left-wing MUH NIGGERS, MUH CHOSEN PEOPLE HERITAGE anti goyimism?

> socialists are so awesome and smart - by: socialist xi

Labor policy 8 hour days weekend
Socialized healthcare
Public education


What elsw

If they were winning the battle of ideas they wouldn't need to import voters from the third world to vote for them.

open borders for israel?

theres literally nothing wrong with socialism in a full white nation (slavs arent white by the way)

>When they make it into the real world they turn conservative real quick in my experience
and in my experience, this is false, if not actually the other way around
you only get the full awfulness of wage-slavery & "gig economy" when you get to experience it for a couple of years

I see what you're trying to say, and I disagree with it. I don't think most of Sup Forums is under 24

Because the common person is too fucking lazy and stupid to spend 30 minutes to learn what communism really is.

Well they outlaw and ostracize our views and ideas, so this isn't particularly surprising.

If people ever flip on the race question, which has actual evidence for our side, the entire house of cards will fall down.

>It's leftist to take care of your volk
0/10
See, this only works when there aren't a bunch of niggers and mudskins taking the money of the white working class.

>Public education
not the best example my friend

In their own minds maybe.

Worker cooperatives are growing and have been around for a long time.

>national socialists

Lol u really think poc are taking your money and not the elite.

That's some Stockholm syndrome

Then tell us what socialism is.

>Ford
>Not a viable long term system
>Republicans fostered this

The children of millennials (if they learn) will be the strongest generation since the greatest one.

Millennials in a way (en masse) were set up to fail by overbearing, overworking parents, who never allowed them to do anything for themselves and never allowed them to feel the sting of failure.

Milennials were raised in bubbles always being told they were special, that they mattered.

Then they grew up, and they learned the first rule of this planet: The real world doesn't give a fuck about you.

Now they are triggered and in panic mode because their aging parents cannot take care of them anymore, so they are turning to the government.

Those of the millennials that have children will God willing have strong children who will learn early in life that their parents are useless mouth breathers and will learn self-reliance and self-discipline.

This.

Kikebook is dying because no one wants to be browbeat by commies. Conservatives are quieter and just disengage from tomfoolery in a public forum and work behind the scenes to get shit done

>we
>flag

Also that's shitty rhetoric.

>Hey guys look at these articles lampooning our behaviour why aren't they talking about THEIR behaviour???

Because that's not the purpose of those articles, you dumb motherfucker.

Examples?

Reminder: Leftists cannot meme

There are different types of socialism
Not everyone is a globalist socialist
Some may very well be ethnic socialists

Why are you saying the left is winning the battle of ideas when your side is even worse at defending progressivism? You can defend tradition, conservatism and fiscal freedom very easily. You can’t defend destruction of ethnicity and cultural identity, white genocide, mass immigration, open borders, Marxist-style socialism or niggers. It’s impossible, which is why you call us Nazis and hit us with meme statements such as:
“You’re voting against your own interests.”
“Historical progress points to progressivism.”
“America is gonna be brown.”
“Muh white guilt.”

Agreed. The (((BBC))) was talking about how we should lower the voting age to 16 the other day, I thought it was hilarious, such a blatant attempt to take advantage of their naivety in voting.

The voting age should be 25 and I say that as a 24 year old, people are growing up much more slowly these days, due to university (basically lengthening schoolkid phase of life) and lack of responsibility

Two days after SSC completely rapes him from a libertarian perspective lol

>currentaffairs.org/2017/11/socialists-are-winning-the-battle-of-ideas

Nathan J. Robinson: archive.is/fjVnl

Uhhhh the real world policies are a consequence of previous generations outdated world views.
The rest of your arguments fall apart after that my mini brain friend

The article is stating that pragmatic negativity is outweighed by idealistic positivity. To which I say no. The former is long term because you can easily move on from coping with bad issues, the latter is short term because they get easily crushed from stepping on a rock.

Even if you took my statement as psuedointellectual bullshit, it doesn't change the fact that leftists frequently grieve about Donald Trump and Russia.

Gen Z is almost as red pilled at their young ages, as Gen X is now.

Socialists are lazy and stupid. It's really that simple.

>Socialized healthcare
>Public education
>success
nope

The left hasn't convinced anyone of the validity of their ideas, quite the opposite. So much in fact that they had to physically change the people else they would have ceased to exist long ago.

Labor policy was the only successful one in that list.

Socialized medicine ends up with systems like Canada where people die in waiting rooms waiting for a doctor.

Public education ends up indoctrinating your children with bullshit like "men can be women because they feel like it".

>taking socialism seriously in 2017

Universal, free healthcare
Public utilities & utilities regulation (no cholera-infested drinking water)
Urban planning
Pensions
Health & safety regulations
Nutritional info on every food package
Universal, free education
Workweek limitations
Environmental regulations (do you enjoy breathing clean air and not facing Beijin levels of smog?)
Public transportation
Disability funds

>not the elite
They are too. Especially these capitalist moguls that have no concern for human decency.
The American system is garbage as well.

so in recent history the uk left the EU, Donald got elected, Venezuela an hero'd, Merkel lost a lot of her support base and Mugabe resigned but socialism is winning the battle of ideas because Corbyn is electable?

He doesn't think he's lazy and stupid under capitalist exploitation lmao

Unless that was their winning move, dummy.

Nationalist social democracy is the best system. Also didn't read the article but I'm guessing they're confusing socialism with social democracy

The real world doesn't care about you trips user.

Never did, never will.

You have to make it give a shit about you.

Mondragon Corporation in Spain

CCA global partners in the US
ccaglobalpartners.com/cca-in-the-community/cooperatives

UK labour party is pushing for worker coops too

...but you admit it's still socialistic, right?

>free gibs
>$15/hr to make coffee
>free university
>censorship of speech
>make it illegal to misgender someone
>redistribution of wealth
>good ideas

Pick none. Why are hard socialists so fucking deluded lads?

oh but it is
it CLEARLY is
even moreso since reddit invaded 2 years ago

Nathan stops sucking cock long enough to document the collapse of the conservative movement. He is blissfully unaware of the emergent and nationalist right that welled up everywhere to elect Trump and take over so much social media real estate that google-FB-twitter et al had to organize en masse to stamp it out with only middling degrees of near success.

>implying we have any problem of adopting a moderate kind of socialism that doesn't suffocate the creative classes.

Nat Socialism is still socialism. The left can continue to celebrate their successful indoctrination of the youth, but once Billy the 19 year old socialist realises that inviting millions of shitskins would make any socialist utopia impossible to implement, and that the leftist socialists who celebrate multiculturalism are actually the the unwitting useful idiots of the corporate elite, you will probably see a rise in nationalist sentiments amongst even the indoctrinated. The left's biggest mistake was assuming their ideas of a viable sustainable democratic socialist state would be compatible with other sacred leftist notions like multiculturalism. Moderate Socialism only works in homogeneous societies.

>free

>(((marxist socialism))) is winning - according to them - not National Socialism

>poc
you have to go back nigger

Capitalists are rats that have no concern for the human condition or their fellow volk. It's really that simple.

You must hanging around commies or something.
Maybe it's different for kikes but over here when a portion of your money gets taken from you to give benefits to those that sit on their arse all day and council projects that waste money in ways that shouldn't even be possible, you start thinking socialism isn't the best idea.

All of my uni friends bar one or two doing PhDs that were fucking idealist retards in uni and some even voted for corbyn, now agree with me on most things.
(Not pakis because they don't ant to be le evil raciss)

Canada little to no wait times for essential procedures you mook.

It's only non critical appointments that have wait times and even then it's not bad.

You act like people don't also die in our waiting rooms lmao

"Anyone who is conservative at a young age doesn't have a heart. Anyone who is a liberal at an old age doesn't have a brain"

Not being a nigger.

>no rational retort
This is why you're losing the battle of ideas :^)

Why did I greentext that

The only true difference between the left and right are economic values

Not without a catch to all if them.

money would be backed up by labor, not gold
pro-family policies would be put in place. like mortgage forgiveness for the number of children you produce

>Socialists still believing they're the party of "love and compassion" and not the party of bitter hatred and resentment of the successful

We????????

SSC is clearly some sort of crypto-reactionary. He isn't even particularly crypto about it. He's at the very least more open to right wing thought than 99% of Leftists, including most libertarians.