>falling in love like a fucking idiot
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Yes, because risking your entire heart, soul and being into someone's hands that could destroy it all from disinterest makes sense, right guys?
That is to say - in this age of easy No-Fault divorce, it's not logical to make such a gamble.
My favorite actor Leonardo Dicaprio realizes this too, so he just goes out with chicks and hangs out with friends
Indeed, he seems like a very trust worthy, honest & happy man.
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Di Caprio is a fucking idiot tho
>I want to risk heartbreak & suicide ideation
Good goy
hes gay
>Dicaprio is famous and rich af
>Lets be just like him user!
DESU he has many options I don't
Jack Nicholson as well
Also, plenty of old school men here:
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Even back then, these badasses knew that destroying your soul wasn't worth whatever comes with "love"
Literally just go to a club with a friend, and you'll see how easy it is. Almost all the guys there are going to be standing next to the bar and periodically looking at the girls on the dance floor and on their phones.
I went to this exotic Latin dance night last Sunday. I was like a kid in a candy store.
Why would you not want a fucktoy in bed with you every night who will make you babies, cook and clean, and force you not to be a disgusting pile of dogshit which all bachelors are?
>Disgusting
Lol beta soyboy numale detected
It's calling exerting your masculinity kiddo.
In this day and age when mostly everyone 's balls have been snipped, it's now easier than ever to have some capital F-U-N style fun
But by all means, play the game of love and see where that takes you in the age of social media ahahahga
You'll live....
You'll learn.
Bump
Bump 2
looks like someone got rejected
enjoy being a soulless loner who cries himself to sleep, and wakes up to leave leftover pizza
while I fall asleep with my beautiful wife in my arms every night, and wake up to her cooking me breakfast
>In this day and age when mostly everyone 's balls have been snipped, it's now easier than ever to have some capital F-U-N style fun
what does that mean
It means he's a virgin
Yes, I felt heartbreak before - which is why it'd be illogical to risk that again. That's exactly the point.
I'll be partying with plenty of women, friends, and family though
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you can love as many of them as you want, just dont marry any
You're not an A List actor worth $200M. average flyover state bachelor worth a couple million is going to have dry spells and drama to deal with -- the stability of marriage has a lot of pros.
but yeah, if I was DiCaprio I'd trade models every week
gee i wonder who could be behind these posts
gee i wonder who could be so weak they need the government to hold their relationships together
Dude I don't even care if you MARRY them (so as long there's a prenuptial agreement etc). It's putting your heart on the line through love is what's objectively illogical
Not everyone is a night owl you schmuck. Night clubs are traps for most people. They only serve as a playground for night owls who display the most energy during club hours.
People who've had their heart broken before, virgin
I'd legitimately choose to get shot by a gun over heartbreak. Suck my fucking dick if you want others to go through that too
Well, enjoy your cats and crippling depression I guess
>My favorite actor Leonardo Dicaprio realizes this too, so he just goes out with chicks and hangs out with friends
>Indeed, he seems like a very trust worthy, honest & happy man.
he is a definition of a degenerate, not jewed by the nigger of genders, but that is putting the bar prettty low
So what goal are you working towards? What do you hope to leave behind after you're done?
>display most energy
BRO. Before smartphones, sure.
I'm seriously telling you, all the dudes are staring at their phones! The only men on the dance floor are those that are with their girlfriends.
Also consider how the room is pretty dark so no one is really looking at you, there is a mutual interest so it's not awkward to walk up and talk to a girl... I mean it's probably the best place to pick up girls really
I went at 10 o clock
You won't, singles and couples don't mingle.
Hahaha the good old cause and effect swapperoo. Making a death pact has jack shit to do with the government, it's just something it forced itself into once again. Do you think people read all marriage laws before they get in? Why can't marriages be contracts between two people who choose the terms themselves? Oh right, white genocide.
Me:
Stand up comedian project
Hangout app project
Tortilla chip warmer project
hip hop project
Acoustic Punk-Folk project
Portland book project
Make a guitar
College for NICU RN
Get involved environmentalism
With partying with chicks, friends & family along the way
I'll date girls as well, but I'll straight off the bat tell them to not get attached.
>People who've had their heart broken before
count me in also, but not is not an exuse to succumb to MGTOW nihilism. Im not even against MGTOW if you take it as a phase or a reaction to the sexual degeneracy/wordly nihilism, but becoming a part of the problem is Hunter Thompson make baby porn cop out. Its whack bro.
Half my friends are in a relationship
A few of them have kids, too.
We have mutual hobbies (music, instruments, bars, vidya, bars, guns, etc)
>needing a contract to hold your relationship together, period
>needing a contract to give you permission to breed responsibly
Tell me when it's logical to put your heart, soul, and being into someone's hands that can destroy entirely out of disinterest.
So you make some music, build a guitar, go to college, find a job. This takes maybe 5 years and is completely inconsequential. What gets you up in the morning? Why do you do anything at all?
Environmentalism is an interesting choice though, because it involves worrying about big abstracts and distant people.
Ever since the girlfriend started going to her friends place along with a bunch of other women to have a viewing party and watch the show bachelor/bachelorette, she's been giving me more shit.
Whether it's why don't we do this or why don't you do that? The shit she says makes me think and ask "where is this coming from?!"
Yes
Do you spend as much time with them as you used to?
Marriage law is fucking broken nigger, you know it’s true. Enjoy getting divorce-raped
If your gf watches tv she’s a degenerate who will eventually fuck a nigger
I hang out with friends and have goals.
I'll be happy as long as I keep doing it, and I don't need someone to completely destroy my heart and mental state to be happy, which is something that I would say is pretty impressive fact.
Her dumb collectivist future single mom friends most likely
That's horseshit. Most of my friends are couples and I'm close with both people.
>Tell me when it's logical to put your heart, soul, and being into someone's hands that can destroy entirely out of disinterest.
when she is a:
>virgin or low d count
>is a person of good character
>social conditions (peer pressure or legal ) dont allow easy divroce
>you know her history and parents
Which means not now, but doesnt mean not ever. Whatever you do dont become a part of the problem like the degenerate brat di Gayprio.
>You'll live....
Looking at the stats post-divorce...maybe not.
I have a variety of friends to choose from and hanging out tonight, tomorrow, and on Sunday alone. Never mind throughout the rest of the week.
Like I said, if you have a good Social Circle of Friends and even cousins to hang out with us well you'll be fine.
Believe me, not having a girlfriend is definitely better than being heartbroken I can assure you. I've experienced both.
In fact, I'd trade never experiencing love to having experienced it and feeling heartbreak.
There's nothing that's worth mental state deterioration from heartbreak
Yeah, I tried that for 5 years. It's not something I recommend. I met my wife after a long time. It's good to be extremely picky when it comes to morality and intelligence. She's a 7/10 physically but a 9/10 wife. Very, very loyal. You can't change a woman's personality, and it's hard to find a girl who isn't a total whorebag leftist, but they exist.
>and it's hard to find a girl who isn't a total whorebag leftist, but they exist.
WORD IS BOND
Leo is a "confirmed bachelor". Everything you read about Hollywood celebrities is written by shills to maximize movie revenue
OP here
Like I say, relationships way back in the day could probably have been determined to be a logical thing to experience.
There are too many variables that break up in a relationship that is entrenched in every facet of our society that makes it so it's not worth it. 100% not worth it
You've obviously never been married LMAO
It may be right now, but humans live long lives and at some point you're going to miss the boat for getting a good relationship. Can you honestly say you'll be able to keep this up for 50 years?
Honestly, I look forward to raising a little me, programming him to be a better version of me.
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My last girlfriend was a Conservative Christian chick and still got up and left without saying anything.
You can eventually find out on your own if you want to, but I'm telling you that there's really no point in gambling on a relationship.
Which is what love is: gambling
I'll gamble $100 at the casino, but not my heart, soul, and my mental state.
Exactly, people who are dishonest tell a load of small lies that can easily be spotted over time, at which point you can assert they will lie about big things too.
To use an analogy, I don't believe people like Bill Clinton just wake up one day and decide to rape someone. It's a loooong process of continuous escalation. Gotta spot it early and choose wisely.
Even if you find a very traditional chick, that won't stop her from being disinterested over time. You know it could even happen after you have kids, you know that?
Everything could be fine and that you will get married and have kids, but after that she could totally become disinterested and it just decide that family life isn't for her.
This happens...Regularly
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That's GAMBLING is that your woman will stay with you. Again the comment it might not even have anything to do with her cheating or whatever, she could just decide to get up and leave.
Also making friends comes really easy for me so I'll be good.
I guess the people who find it hard to make friends are the ones that may need to fall back on gambling with a woman, I guess I do feel sorry for those guys.
>My last girlfriend was a Conservative Christian chick and still got up and left without saying anything.
genuinly christian? or just born to the family and did church duties? sorry for that bro. pray and keep your spirits high.
>It's a loooong process of continuous escalation. Gotta spot it early and choose wisely.
true, but the thing is women really arent as good , but bigger problem is all out demoralization that a goyim cant find a women that will love and respect him (hard i know, but saying that they dont exist is just retarted), heck I dont have a gf or a wife, but saying its over is just irrational demoralization.
How the fuck is it gambling? You can communicate with us? It's such a womanly way to look at it, as if relationships just happen to you and happen to fail. You have choices, you can assert yourself and affect the world around you.
That's actually not true.
It's gambling because you can't control the outcome, duh.
You put your love into something and HOPE that you'll get it back.
You can be the best husband or boyfriend imaginable and still get fucked over emotionally. Hell, I bet you a good chunk of the reason why women break up with guys isn't due to infidelity or whatever, but it could be simply due from disinterest or change in lifestyle desires. Could be from her simply her falling out of love with you.
>wealthy and fit as fuck
>nothing makes me happier than watching anime and fapping to imported doujinshi
What the fuck is wrong with me?
I know a lot of divorced guys, their stories all are similar. They don't communicate and prod their partner to find out what they want or need in a relationship. It doesn't take much to show genuine affection, to keep in reasonable shape and to please a woman. Most of all they want to feel appreciated, because women effectively ego vampires. They thrive on social approval, and if they aren't getting it they will start looking for it. This is also why women are so vulnerable to propaganda.
When she does something bad, talk it through. When she does something good, reward her appropriately. If she does something wonderful, buy her a reminder of it. That's working for me.
This is a bunch of female mumbo jumbo. Roastie confirmed
I don't care about any of that crap I'll find another if she leaves, I just don't want my money stolen. I've learned well enough there are plenty of women but being in a relationship and loving someone is a good idea. If she leaves I'd be sad for awhile hopefully with my wallet still firmly in my hand and I'd go out and get a new one.
I do miss whoring though.
Read your own posts and observe the language you're subconsciously using. Women are not roulette where you can't change the outcomes once the ball is rolling. You have choices, you are not a passive observer. Obviously it begins with choosing the best woman you can find.
Nope. It takes two to communicate.
You could be the best Communicator in the world, and she can only communicate at half her potential.
In other words, many women - just people in general really - don't have the communicative know how to bring the best out of themselves for a relationship to thrive.
My last girlfriend - the Conservative Christian chick - her communication skills were to see the least god-awful, and that's why she got up and left. She didn't know any better. Add a nothing to do with her fooling around on me or whatever
So she could totally not express any discomfort or anything because she does not know how to express it, she could just get up and leave like how it happened to me - this happens all of the time to guys
Watch or listen to YOUR BRAIN ON PORN by stefan molyneux, it talks about dopamine responses and actions
Lol.
If love was not a gamble then there would be no breakups. Of course it's a gamble.
Women are not even supposed to be able to choose their partner. Men are supposed to take them by force and they are supposed to submit. Or be bought from their male guardian.
Female freedom to choose a partner is a very recent phenomenon in the world. No point getting into a relationship with a female like that. That's like relying on an unpredictable wild animal.
Women are supposed to submit to powerful men. Today men can't legally exert their power over women, so women don't respect them anymore, which is the reason for the high rate of divorce.
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Long term love is a choice that requires commitment, it's not a feeling. Physical love lasts 18 months, just long enough to form routines and patterns. It is the biological reason in part, for why we have so many shitty people with kids around.
Think about it, how much control do you have over every other aspect of life? Not much. Not being able to control the outcome is why people have superstitions and religion, it's just not a reason not to risk anything ever. I'm just saying, if you do find the perfect girl, don't fuck it up by being a nihilistic self-sabotaging dickhole. If you never find that girl, so be it.
I strongly recommend listening to freedomainradio, it talks about subjects like this all the time and it has a call-in segment. Nothing to lose right? Changed my life.
The problem is weak willed men who have been duped by Disney into thinking that "love" is something one "deserves" by merit alone.
What we call "love" is an amalgam of many things, and is expressed in different ways by different people.
I submit that respect is and always has been the most important thing in a relationship. If she doesn't respect you enough to let you in on whatever is important to her, you're gonna lose. If she doesn't respect you enough to know which of her choices in life are disrespectful to you, you're going to lose. If you don't understand that you are the rock in your relationship and no longer get to enjoy the safety of boyhood, recreating your relationship with your own mother, who loved you unconditionally, you're going to lose. You can still make a successful relationship in the current year, but if you try to force it when you yourself are not ready to live up to the masculine responsibilities inherent in being the man in your relationship, you should avoid it at all costs.
and, involving greedy kike lawyers in your personal relationships is never a good idea.
So pick an honest women that can communicate, doesn't have unrealistic expectations and is loyal?
Neanderthals formed lifelong pair bonds. White people have the most Neanderthal admixture. Monogamy is implicitly white.
Nice fantasy but wake up to reality
Hi Leo
You know you're just repeating the same assertion without an explanation as to how that works then? How is gambling, where you have no real control, the same as choosing a woman you want to spend the rest of your life with as the mother of your children?
Nicely written
I know about Stephen; I've been here for a few years now.
My last gf was the conservative religious girl that qas a virgin. The same girl that got up and left me abruptly.
We planned our kids' names, where they would go to school, where we'd get married, where we'd live. Everything.
Love is a gamble.
Heard DiCaprio has a huge cock.
I didn't even fall in love, or marry, or even live de facto.
But a chick I was seeing for a couple months lied about contraception and is now pregnant. She's keeping the baby.
My life is over.
Why not just donate to the sperm bank and have your genes passed on without the cuckery of marriage?
Seeing as how christian virgins usually marry before sex, I think you were either duped or something extreme happened. Either way, that is an extreme situation that does not represent anything in the slightest. I think what you need most of all is closure, because something like this without understanding why is terrifying. Did you do something wrong? Are all women like this? How can this be prevented in the future? You were hurt bad, and now you're turtling to protect yourself, which hurts you more because you repress and deny what you truly want. Find her or her family if you can, get more information. You can't get past this without understanding why.
Yeah, sex makes babies. That makes sense.
Why sad about being a father to a white child?
If you think people should only have sex to make babies, you're being a tad too idealistic and not realistic.
Because I will be paying 20% of my income to some random bitch for the next 2 decades. You can say that it's child support, but we all know the money will be going into new dresses and holidays for her.
I will literally never be able to afford a home.
I will probably never be able to afford to build a family and have children with someone I love.
I will be forever powerless to her; she can literally stop me from leaving the country if she ever feels angry.
No, I'm pretty sure sex makes babies and contraception isn't perfect, so you accepted the risk of impregnation implicitly when engaging into sexual relationships with this woman. Her lying about it is just the cherry on the shitcake. Yeah she did an extremely shitty and irresponsible thing, but you chose this woman.
I didn't choose shit.
You absolving the woman of responsibility for her actions, especially when the state gives her the power over the life and death of a child, is a massive part of the problem in society today.
The father has no rights anymore. Women are the only ones who know if they are using contraception, and there is no pill for men. Women can literally get an abortion despite him, or keep it despite him, or even abandon it at the hospital, no questions asked. They have all the power and no accountability.
Consent to sex isn't the same as consent to parenthood. Unless you're a feminist and the person you're talking about is male, of course.
This is the roastie hamster wheel in full effect men.
> ITS NEVER US, WE'RE NEVER WRONG, IT HAS TO BE YOU.
>"YOUR NOT COMMUNICATING" = CHEAT AND DO WHATEVER I WANT CARD
> ITS NOT GAMBLING, ALL WOMAN ARE COMPLETELY SANE AND INHERENTLY GOOD AND IT CAN ONLY BE YOUR FAULT.
>THERE ARE HONEST WOMAN OUT THERE, HONEST.
>SHE LIED AND USED YOU TO HAVE A BABY FOR PASSIVE INCOME, ITS YOUR FAULT YOU CHOSE HER, NOT HER FAULT.
You can't even argue with it using logic. Please observe and take note, this is exactly why you never get married. They will justify literally anything and believe what they are saying. Run away folks.
Nah, you chose to trust this woman and now you talk like it just happened without any choices on your part
Massive strawmen, the exact opposite of what I said. Most women are insane, choose carefully or you end up impregnating a crazy one.
>You know you're just repeating the same assertion without an explanation as to how that works then? How is gambling, where you have no real control, the same as choosing a woman you want to spend the rest of your life with as the mother of your children?
Because just like gambling, you don't get to see the other players hand until your all in.
By the way, there literally is a pill for men now. But seriously, take some measure of responsibility. You were stupid and a bitch trapped you because she knows its the only way for a shitty person like her to get anyone to stay around.
So you're terrible at telling when someone lies or tells you inconsistent stories?
I used a condom AND asked her if she was on the pill. Literally how could I have been more responsible.
If you're saying no one should have sex unless they're trying to make babies in a marriage, then you completely unrealistic. The fact that my trust was broken doesn't make me the causal factor here.
Ok, I'm assuming from your posts that your a woman because I don't really get the feeling that you've ever dated a woman. (I'm dead serious I'm not saying this to be a prick.) The level of manipulation that woman use in relationships operates on levels on 137d chess, and its way more than telling lies or stories. What usually happens is that the woman acts a certain way to acquire resources and than once they have acquired said resources a lot of times there personality changes completely whether intentional or not, but it is because they no longer have to act decent to get what they want. this phenomenon is the entire basis for this thread.
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