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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Communism promotes genocide.

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Curious about the timestamp...

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So
at :55 seconds
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is at :56 seconds

Pretty weird.

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That the fuck is happening on this video?

>niggertriesmath.gif

what mongrels do without white people keeping them in line.

that wasnt real comunism

lol
he didn't sieze the means of production, so NO real communism

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aha, that is a capitalist scumbag so he had it comming. hasta la victoria siempre!

She'll be fine. that is a communist muscular spasm treatment you can only get in cuba.

he thought the peoples party was not democratic, so he got a first hand show of what democracy is.

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>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society
So what stops me from forming a capitalist republic?

This is why communism doesn't even work in THEORY, much less reality.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run

away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD

Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

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Here in Portugal i believe we are entering the socialist phase

This nigger couldtn even steal her bag. Holy shit what an incompetent faggot

If that was my daughter I would go to jail after dealing with this.

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You would molest your own daughter?

>muh single-person republic

What do Communists use the same arguments as Holocaust deniers when it comes to Gulags, arrest be secret police, genocides, that sort of stuff? Just replace "soviet" with "Nazi" in any of your "The west lies" talk

>stalinism = communism

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Single person? I allow people to actually keep the product of their labor rather than redistributing it (another commie paradox). My republic will have everyone that actually works while you will have homeless niggers.

Even so, let's pretend it is just me. I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

Commies wanted to gulag this.

>meme reply
try again

nice

>One post by this ID

The only true path for Communists - Gommunism!
You want to be slaves, submit to Islam, submit to Gommunism, soon you will be dead.

''Communism in it's full form is a stateless'' ok

>I have no answer, it must be a meme.
I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

And they say we shill their capitalist threads

i'm sick and tired with dealing with the same retarded buzzowrds over and over again
go read some basics of communism and then we'll talk

Im using the OP of this thread as my source, about as on topic as you can get.
Just admit you can't answer because if ONE person refuses to redistribute your whole system fails.
> I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

>your crops
>your
you used nothing. at least stop lying so blatantly

Care to try that in full English sentences, buddy?
> I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

>ad homonym
and i'm done

well you'll be shot

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what if the social need is profit?

not only it is social but it's also a thing that every living thing aims for
but we need to draw a line between what's actually needed and what's needed out of greed

:DD

>buddy is an ad hom
Certainly can't be running away because you are entirely retarded, right?
There is your ad hom, so keep running.

i refuse to answer the very same retarded question for the n'th time. go fucking educate yourself

Under socialism, you profit from your work. Nobody profits from yours and you do not profit from anybody else's.

You have not answered it yet
>I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?
Because the answer is simple: states or classes
>oops, not real communism

No you fucking idiot.
I'd fling those kids 20 feet.

which part of ""i refuse to answer the very same retarded question for the n'th time" you didn't get?

>implying your crops
>implying your land
>implying private property
>Venezuelan Company Lets 55 Tons of Flour Rot
telesurtv.net/english/news/Venezuelan-Company-Lets-55-Tons-of-Flour-Rot-20171121-0016.html

>Venezuelan Food Company Caught Burying Alive Millions of Chicks
telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Venezuelan-Food-Company-Caught-Burying-Alive-Millions-of-Chicks-20171113-0013.html

Kulaks go in the gulag. Try to destroy the crops and you get shot.

The implication the n!=0
> I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?
Pro tip: you can't

>>Under socialism, you profit from your work. Nobody profits from yours and you do not profit from anybody else's.
>becoming an edgy socdem because MEAN DRUMPF!!
yuck-o

i was addressing the fact that we have this natural mechanism of getting things hard-coded into our brains and we have to satisfy it a bit

Oh boy! Here we go!
Who is going to force me to share the crops I raised and harvested?
pro tip: I shoot trespassers.

i can and i won't. i'm sick and tired of spoonfeding all you morons who can't bother to spend 10 minutes on reading things

>implying watching numbers grow and stimulating the part of our brain that cocaine does isn't alienation and symptom of capitalism

>I can answer it, I just won't because reasons
This is fucking sad
>I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

that's right comrade!!

>you profit from your work

Go have a chat with the man who invented the most successful firearm ever

The people are more numerous and better armed.

She died in a cold trench after being disemboweled by an artillery shrapnel.

>the more you know

The USSR literally lost a war by not getting invaded

>muh bookchin-googling vanguard

any redneck could gun down a platoon of DSA kids or SEIU thugs

>he doesn't work
>he wants to represent the working class

What benefit do they have of attacking me? Who organized them and found me? Send a handful of people and their productivity is lost (as are their lives). Mine is lost either way, sunk cost. Wouldn't they rather start their own farm and not redistribute than risk their lives, or is your group made entirely of people who refuse to take care of themselves AND also willing to risk their lives even though there is no point because other commies will take care of them?

There is the important part:
How do you motivate people who have all their needs taken care of to risk their lives for no gain?
It sounds like you are talking about an army... wouldn't that imply a state and classes?
>oops, communism broke again

copypaste it one more time. maybe you'll get sick of it and actually read some literature
i can play this game as well
>muh spoonfeed

>the "sovereign citizen" crowd and "muh castle doctrine" crowd aren't cucks that the Feds just had to sit out
>chest-pumping on the internet

Wtf are you even talking about?

Oh, you're talking about late stage high communism. In that case, private property would not exist for decades if not generations and the entire idea of ditching society to LARP as Robinson Crusoe will seem absurd.

That is, if you even had crops to call your own, instead of working on a collective farm, with other workers, who would knock some sense in you really quick if you decided to claim "muh crops".

enjoy peaking at 40k members wew bud

>posts SUPER FUNNY gulag memes from reddit
>because libertarian fascist gamer trump nazis and he's ruffled
>"ain't flexin tho"
go back to leftbook

>workers' souls are pure and they don't steal crops
top fucking kek that happens all the time irl btw

don't justify your laziness with my lack of patience for moronism

You realize you have typed out at least a half dozen unique sentences refusing to answer, when if you actually HAD answered you could just be copying and pasting that answer and making me look silly?
So is it because you are a brain dead commie, or because you have no answer?
> I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

see

>what did he mean by this
>enjoy peaking at 40k members wew bud

>implying I am flexing
The situation described was "commies are the rule and the "muh property" man is getting uppity, wyd?"

Theft is punishable in any society, though?

>late stage high class communism

And how do you get there? By giving the power to a party of communists? Like the USSR and North Korea? Cause every one knows once you get power you are always so willing to give it up.

yes but my point was people always smuggled/hid a part of their produce because they just could so your theoretical example of collective punishment only works where you have agents in place

No, I'm talking about me, in my life, refusing to have my crops redistributed because I love starving commies more than my own mother.
What do you do?

>other commies knock sense into you
Why would they risk their lives for no gain? I'm not stealing their crops, I am growing my own on unused land.
It sounds like you are about to jump to slavery, careful with that.

>late stage
>workers

if you were impatient with idiots then why are you associated with these fucking people

nothing is more retarded than ancaps

Never forget comrades:

Lenin denounced Stalin for his ill manners, and believed him unfit to lead the communist revolution.

Trotsky was the rightful heir to the communist movement.

His spirit lives on in the labor unions across the world.

So... braindead? No answer? Still unclear why you can't answer a simple question:
> I refuse to have my crops redistributed; how do you deal with that?

good one

I feel like he's some kind of bio weapon, if you touched him or were even around him you would get some kind of disease

you're both on the same level tbqhfamalam

>implying no gain
>one less threat to communist society
>one less anti-social encroacher on the Common Land
You're not very good at this, you know?

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anarcho-suffixes are retarded on a fundamental level

>obama is nazbol
>SEIU deathsquads when

This is now a really thread