“Islam is an open-ended declaration of war against non-Muslims” and those who carry out violent jihad are true...

> “Islam is an open-ended declaration of war against non-Muslims” and those who carry out violent jihad are true Muslims who are applying exactly what their creed demands.

>Those who fail to recognize the real threat posed by Islam are naïve and ignorant of history, he said, and unfortunately many in the Church fall into this category.

Catholics are waking up?

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Relax Isaac, pandering to Christians will only buy you some time but it won't save you in the end.

That's an interesting tactic. Equate Islamophobia with a Zionist conspiracy.

By your line of reasoning the Catholics are easily manipulated, and the build-up of anti immigration sentiment is due to extrinsic rather than intrinsic factors. This tone towards Catholics leads me to believe that you are a shill.

>By your line of reasoning the Catholics are easily manipulated
Is this news to you?

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You make them out to be mindless robots, easily swayed by Cultural Marxism. If they would listen to this guy and read a bit of history, they are more likely to stop virtue signaling and fall back on the Catholic tradition.

Islam IS ANTIRACISR

1/3 of “French” arabic bitches are married to niggers, but it’s fine because they are one in MudLlah

All abrahamic religions are utter shit

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I know, I posted Molymeme. However, the general theme of his argument here is important.

Christianity as preserver of Western Culture, especially standards of morality and decency, is a very effective tool against both Marxism and Islam.

The first thing a socialist state seeks to accomplish is to drive out and marginalize the religious factions.

To ignore this tool, at this crucial moment may be a grave mistake.

>violent jihad are true Muslims
Wrong, only Wahhabist Sunni Muslims are violent jihadists. Most Muslims despise them

How could one know what most Muslims truly believe on this subject? An opinion poll, no matter how cleverly devised will always be marred by response bias (the awareness of being judged by one's answers).

Looking at the Koran only briefly, and with only a cursory understanding of the history of early Islam and one finds the truth:

"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Koran 2:191

"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Koran 9:123

"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Koran 9:5

Mohammed was a general. The story of Islam is and will continue to be the story of conquest.

Cool, now instead of copy/pasting some bullshit off of some hate website, go to the online Quran and copy the actual verses along with the previous and following verses for context then come back.

Koran 2:191

"And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers."

It's basically saying that unless you're in a Mosque, kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.

You still intentionally left out the context. Also I can tell you still copy/pasted the verse from your hate website because Muslims don't usually spell it "Koran," that's usually how dumb burgers spell it.

Context is important, but that's like saying that because Sun Tzu's Art of War doesn't tell the reader to fight battles all the time, everywhere and under all circumstances, that it encourages peace.

Islam, as an ideology, is incompatible with Western democracy.

Quran 2:190-195

>Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

>And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

>And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

>Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

>[Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

>And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.


Basically the verses are saying to fight back against whoever is trying to persecute you but do not transgress. Nice try.

Sorry is it makes you salty that Islam is not cucked like Christianity which turns the other cheek.

So Islam isn't "cucked" because it encourages violent resistance. "Transgressions" is an open door. Look at what Osama Bin Laden considered a transgression punishable by violent retribution.

You can't write a book that acts as a civilization-starter-kit, encouraging limitless devotion and building strong healthy warriors (voluntary periodic fasting, ie. Ramadan, is an important part of early military logistics), and just let it loose in the ME. There are consequences.

One of those is that people who choose to live their lives in a peace-promoting way need to systematically reject attempts of domination by such ideologies.

I don’t care about what a subhuman racial jew has to say.


Threadly reminder christians are subhumans

>Jesus and Co - racial Jews
>Geographic and ethno-racial origins - Middle East
>christshitanity is egalitarian
>denies the Natural Order
>meakness, tolerance and submission are “virtues”
>preaches inclusiveness and egalitarianism
>the old testament is a collection of retarded jewish fables
>the new testament is a story of a jew with attitude

Inb4 muh atheist Sweden, How did they behave in Sweden? christcucks helped Palme and marched against apartheid, reminded christcucks fought against racial eugenics, reminder christcucks help rapefugees ans run 50% of Swedish anti-racist groups

Where were Swedish atheists at that time? Running racial eugenics, developing nukes and opposing racial egalitarianism

>Believes Osama actually did 9/11
You need to lay off the bible thumping for a little while and get in touch with reality.

Quran literally says don't let people push you around
>MUH ISLAM IS EVIL

I like how you couldn't stand me disproving you with the actual verses so you jumped to examples of things that certain people allegedly did as if it is some kind of proof.

Even if 9/11 were a Zionist conspiracy, the subsequent escalation in Islamic terror cannot be solely attributable to one shady group of Semitic elites.

Let me be more direct. You interpret the verses as "don't let people push you around." That is completely fine and I'm actually in agreement with you regarding the intent of the Prophet.

However, Islamic extremists, in both Sunni and Shia camps, use these verses to push their followers, read: foot soldiers, toward acts of violence against innocents. This fact cannot be ignored or minimized when looking at the overall compatibility of Islam and the West.

I can also claim that all those dumb fucking Zionist Evangelical Christians supporting the "war on terror" which is actually a modern crusade in the Middle East are also equally extremists along with the CIA, American army, and NATO. Half of those fucks in the your army who invaded Iraq, raped women, killed, and tortured tons of innocents were also bible thumpers. Recall Abu Ghraib.

Your country practically created most terrorism in the Middle East since at least the 1980s. Al-Qaeda was a CIA creation and ISIS is a mercenary army of the Rothschilds.

So don't fucking talk because everything you say about Muslims I think the Christians are worse and the ultimate hypocrites.

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It's fascinating that when our discussion started, you painted the picture of Catholics as mindless and easily manipulated.

Now I see that you believe the same about vast groups of Muslims in the ME. Can't they think for themselves and choose peace over continued violence? Or is there something endemic to their ideology that lends the momentum towards conflict?

Look at all the groups you just named. External groups. External factors. It's always someone else's fault.

There are always people on every side who are easily manipulated. The point I am making is don't be a hypocrite.

Most of the shit that ISIS does is directly against Islam while a lot of it is similar to what the US army did when they invaded Iraq so the underlying factor is not even religion. Just today they bombed a mosque full of Sunni Muslims in Egypt killing over 200 people. Like I said, don't be a hypocrite. ISIS are just paid mercenaries. I can also blame everything that America/CIA does on Christianity since most of their support base are conservative Zionist Christians.

Indeed, the biggest importer of somalis in my state (Minnesota, we have the largest somali population in the US) is Catholic Charities and Lutheran Social Services. They then set them up with all those sweet gibs. Disgusting, really.

I'm arguing that ISIS is Islam, just in a darker, more primal form. They chose the Black Standard for their flag. When they move into and take over a a town in Syria or Iraq, they make the locals pray with them publicly and the unbelievers pay a religious tax. They are emulating the early days of the Prophet.

The CIA may have been the catalyst, but the propensity towards this behavior pattern can be found in deep in the roots of Islam itself. The train is moving down the tracks of a viscous cycle, no matter who gave the first push.

>I'm arguing that ISIS is Islam, just in a darker, more primal form.
Yeah and you're objectively wrong, there's nothing more to it. See you keep arguing but you are just a hypocrite like most other Christians. You keep trying to fabricate reasons to attack Islam because the reality is that you are insecure about your own religion so you have to reinforce your beliefs that Islam is evil no matter how invalid your arguments are.

>They chose the Black Standard for their flag.
Again, you are using shit arguments. What if they chose a cross then?

In fact, I'm going to use the inquisitions as a reference point and I'm going to say that Christianity is evil based upon that especially since at that time Islam spread relatively peacefully and coversions were not forced while the Christian inquisitions forcefully converted and slaughtered million of native Americans. Case closed.

Shoot I thought we were cucks who can’t stand up for ourselves! Can we be both cucks and conquerors at the same time?

Well I wouldn't really call the inquisitions standing up for yourself. That's just straight up aggression not much different than ISIS.

I find it interesting that The Spanish Inquisition is compared to 2014-present ISIS. Is that like a golf handicap, you get to equate standards of human decency from the 12th century to how Christians as a group believe currently?

Mohammed’s army marched under same the Black Standard that ISIS does today.

>I find it interesting that The Spanish Inquisition is compared to 2014-present ISIS.
See, you just can't stop coming up with new shitty comparisons to justify your insecurity and hypocrisy. Inquisitions happened after 1492, it's currently the year 1438 on the Islamic calendar what does this really mean?

Also who cares what flag ISIS uses, the Inquisitions did everything under the cross.

In fact, I can make the argument that at least ISIS are paid mercenaries, paid by Jewish and Christian bankers while the inquisitions were done from their own will. I can go further...

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Dar al harb or dar al islam

If your country hasnt submitted you're dar al harb and at war with them. Once you have submitted to islamic rule you are considered dar al islam, house of peace. This is also bullshit because of caste system and warring tribal mongrel families. It never ends. Islam means peace when you submit. Fuck the media.