I've been going to an engineering university for a few years now, taking semesters off on occasion to work in paper mills and afford school. I jumped straight into college after high school and had an awful first year. I've been recovering my GPA ever since and it's only just now close enough to get some financial aid. I've realized my life is either working in a body crushing paper mill or studying in a soul crushing university. I've lost any passion I had for engineering and I'm desperate to change my life. I got married a few months ago so supporting my new family is important, but I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish university. What would you do in my position? What career change would you make?
I'd like to get involved in private investigation, but I don't know where I would start to get into that profession.
I fell for the college meme
You can do it. I believe in you.
Do the honorable thing and commit Familicide/Uxoricide.
For one, you were born in America.
Secondly, you went for engineering seriously.
There is literally nothing you can change or repair form this point forwards.
Fuck, man. I hope I can. I need to know what "it" is that I can do though.
I'll consider it.
not get married while working and going to school. lrn2strategy
It's likely that your passion was never engineering, you just knew that STEM was a good occupation to aim for in case everything else failed. Keep your day job as you have to support your family (no kids mentioned) and figure out whether or not you could have a real engineering job within 5 years. If not, abandon ship and find something else in your spare time to work towards. I'm in STEM too but have been thinking about joining the military.
OP paper mills suck but TAPPI meetings are great
Don’t listen to this idiot who wants to die protecting Nike shipping lanes
>What would you do in my position?
Divorce.
Keep your job, get your degree. You'll enjoy life during your 30's.
...
he literally gave him the best advice possible
I fell for it too, it's worse than I thought
>tranny professor (in a politics class)
>tons of gen-ed garbage (failing two b/c lazy and skipping)
I should've joined the military, at least I'd get fitter and have some discipline in my life rather than sitting here and slaving away on essays I don't give a fuck about
This
Based on my success in university, I wonder if I'll even be able to pass the higher level courses once I reach them. Besides a lack of passion for engineering, I don't have a passion for the paper industry either. I've been trying desperately to find another job, but I guess I'm not qualified.
Ha, Tappisafe can fuck off. I'm a contractor so I need to take a new Tappisafe course for every mill I visit. It's a damn hassle.
I married an America white woman who hates niggers almost as much as I do. Besides, she's my high school sweetheart. I can't leave her now.
What caused the bad first year?
Do what it takes to finish your degree. At least get that in the bag as it will open up doors for you in the future. I know it sucks now, but I guarantee you'll be happy you did it when it's all over. I hated my major at the end too but I'm glad I stuck it out.
Yes goy. Give her away to some one else. Good cuck.
Make her have ur babies OP. If ur White...
I also fucked up my first semester this year really badly. How can I recover?
You seem experienced with this problem.
What caused it?
work on cars. fabrication is good dole if you're good at it
Im in OP's exact situation minus the family part, and i dont enjoy doing anything.
I really just want to drop everything and go live in the mountains for self reflection, but i have like 50k in student loans
Unironically this
Don’t leave your wife. I wish I had a girlfriend or a wife. I could have, but I’ve rejected women because I’m screwed up in the head from growing up in a crazy family where violence was happening everyday in childhood. I can’t get too close to people. It’s more than that, but I can’t explain now.
Cherish what you have.
You're not alone user. How many classes are you failing? Two here
If you want to be a private investigator you will need some law enforcement history. Honestly just work in some shithole department for an easy ride.
Finish a bachlors degree and you will be leaps and bounds above 70% of cops and above 90% of small town cops. Private investigator uusually works insurance or divorce. I would reccomend just going to indeed and looking up "deputy" or "officer" careers in shithole areas, they are desperate and if you can relocate and fit the minimum standard (no arrests that are class B misdemeanors or above, can legally own a gun, no serious mental health disorders and autism is fine, no major physical disorders) you got the job. The pay will be low, but consider it on the job training. College they pay you to go to. Do that for 5-7 years and then open your own firm
Never showed up to class and fell into depression. I wasn't ready for college. My GPA is probably going to be fucked by this.
Fake your death by throwing a pig in front of a train. Yank a few teeth out and leave them at the scene.
Enjoy your new mountain man life
Im also failing because i prefer vidya and porn
The teacher kept calling on me in my one class and I'm basically /r9k/ so I started skipping, already failed that one based on attendance. In math I'm basically a brainlet and space out
How can you know you weren't ready for college if you never went to class
Translation: OP is a useless piece of shit that knocked up somebody and is now a beta provider.... except he can't provide.
Therefore, OP is a cuck.
Growing up, I was a good student. Got As in everything almost, except math. That’s why I didn’t go the STEM route. Maybe not a good move, I don’t know.
Anyway, I did everything you’re supposed to do academically in college, except I didn’t talk much in class. Outside of class, I never networked or anything. I didn’t party.
In the end, I got good grades but had a hard time finding a job while other people seemed to do so easier.
TLDR networking and getting on influential people’s radar is probably better than grades. Do internships or something to get a competitive resume.
Guys I'm falling for the college meme too. Some one here please just pick what I should major in before I run out of core classes. I just want something that I can wear a suit to and sit in an AC'd office at a desk all day.
My dream is to dig in the dirt and forge metal into whatever I want. To live in the woods and make wood, stone, and thatched houses on my own. Yet I can't have that. Just give me a major to live with so I can at least turn into a normie on the average grind.
I've already dropped out once and served four years as a welfare queen. Now I have to make the choice.
Why can't civilization just collapse already so I can be free?
that doesnt translate to engineering very well. They look at your GPA before anything else.
Mostly overconfidence in myself and underestimation of the material.
Engineering is bringing me a lot of grief. What if I changed majors to something like business?
I basically haven't recovered. My awful first year has been like an anchor holding me down. I've finally managed to bring myself up to a 2.8 GPA, so you can imagine how much effort it takes after a bad semester.
I've got 11k in student loans. Working on off semesters has paid off in that way.
Leaving my wife has never been an option here, but thanks user. I'll cherish her.
>Non-STEM route
So... you're a hooker, gigolo or a burger flipper now...
I was one of the best students in my highschool until my Senior year when it all fell apart. That problem carried on to college.
Go into medicine/health field. In 15-20 years 30% of the US population will be 65 and older. There's a nationwide shortage of medical professionals.
Finish the path. It's a damn good degree, engineering. Put your shoulder tot he wheel and double down.
>been thinking about joining the military
been thinking about serving the banker
you're right bro. College isn't for learning, it's literally for making connections to get hired.
Suit up, gentlemen and hit up those job fairs. A few internships under your belts are worth more than a 4.0 and nothing
Pull a Ted K (minus bombs) and go move out into the woods. That's my fantasy. If I ever do it I'm gonna have to research and prepare like crazy though
I might just stop going to uni and commit to esports full time. Fuck it honestly. At least I love playing games. Being world class and competing in LANs would be super fun.
Construction management, and don’t take advice from euros, they live in another world, auto work, fabrication? You’ll make $12.5/hr, fucking awful advice
Chef?
I am an archivist and librarian at a college. I like it for the most part. I do IT type stuff for the library... nothing too impressive, but I feel needed to run the show.
Archives is cool. Everyone loves old pictures and newspapers, etc. The pay is really low, though. It’s genrally that way for archivists because their value is placed so far in the future, if that makes sense. I don’t know if I worded that well.
>I'm in STEM too but have been thinking about joining the military.
As a current engineering student doing ROTC at the university, I say you follow what im doing if you have a few years left. Its pretty fun and guaranteed job whne you graduate and commision as 2LT
soy boy
>Mostly overconfidence in myself and underestimation of the material.
So you thought everything would be as easy as 1+1= 2 and you could party all day and night...
>Engineering is bringing me a lot of grief. What if I changed majors to something like business?
Sure, but something tells me that useless faggots like yourself would say that you're "overconfident in yourself and underestimated the material".
>2.8 GPA.
Out of 4 or 5? KYS already, useless fuck.
>Leaving my wife has never been an option here, but thanks user. I'll cherish her.
Don't worry, she'll leave once she finds a better beta provider.... Which isn't saying much given that you're such a useless cuck.
So you think I should become a cop first before becoming a PI? I've heard from a PI that a police background doesn't really help on the job, but I imagine it helps to get in the door.
I have no criminal record whatsoever (not even a speeding ticket) so I'm in a solid position to join the police.
As for the shithole area, I live in Atlanta. The entire city is a shithole.
Also, my current major is mechanical engineering. Would the police even pay me to continue studying something like that?
>but i have like 50k in student loans
I dropped out this semester, but my bosses boss, who is the head of the noc for my university across the whole state told me to send him my resume so he can hook me up.
If there is one thing I cannot emphasize more than anything, and that I have emphasized for years now to many people, fucking NETWORK. Know people. This, in many instances of life can make or break you.
Uh yeah, sure ‘forging metals’ will pay your property taxes
Hope you've learned your lessons.
Lesson #1: falling for following the herd only leads you to the abattoir. Life in the path of the herd is set up to fleece you.
Lesson #2: having to study or work only stops you making money. You'll never have time to do anything while you are making money for other people.
Lesson #3: The biggest danger you will face in your lifetime is your own government. Never let them know about anything. Be like a ghost if you can. Sometimes you can't, but add up what it's worth to go legit, because believe me once they get their beady eyes on your money they obsess in taking it from you.
Lesson #4: Once you've made it you keep it by keeping your mouth shut about it. Bragging is for nogs with white suits and big hair. They get something and 50 other nogs cling to him keeping him down. Only brag about what you are willing to lose.
I'm also failing two. I got depressed when I fucked up and missed a math test so I stopped showing up to class and now my grade is fucked. Then I wanted to drop a class but took too long to do it and fucked up my grade.
I don't know what to do. I wish I could start over.
continue working your cuck job, start making youtube content. duplicate on other sites, continue till you build a following, and the rest is selling merch...
The answer to automation is entertainment.
Don't listen to the commie
Fuck both those options. Get into management at that same paper mill. Play the game and suck that dicm for your family's sake, your body and wallet will thank you.
That's all management is, a way to continue the path of manual labor without destroying your body.
>actually buying the land
Toplel
you’re garbage
If you want to be a PI you should have some experience so you're not just LARPing. Join the police if you want to be a detective. Just know what that actually entails.
Research all you can about being a PI, talk to actual private detectives. Read a bunch of Phillip Marlowe novels and watch all those film noir movies for guidance. I believe you can be successful at it if you really pour your ambition and motivation into this OP
Just don't get your nostril sliced open by the dude you're paid to follow and you're good
I don't really care that I failed the class, it's more that my parents will berate me once they figure out. I don't really want to be there honestly. I'm just afraid I'll be forced to retake the classes. Then I will wish I could start over too
>did everything you’re supposed to do academically in college
>didn’t talk much in class. Outside of class, I never networked or anything
Shit nigga, that is exactly what you're supposed to do.
Talk, speak up, ask questions.
If you show interest, professors will return the favor.
Also go to those phd/master student's lectures in the middle of the day and ask questions/talk, thats another way to get lab jobs, which give you experience, which is #1 importance in school.
>soy boy
Talk to the University's mental health service, any uni worth its salt has one, and they can help you.
No kids. I'm a useless piece of shit, but atleast I use protection.
I've been trying to find a new internship for more than a year, but nobody wants me. I'm stuck doing grunt work in papermills because it's the highest paying work I'm qualified to do.
Accounting could be the meme for you
Yeah, I make $15 an hour right now in paper, but there isn't a lot of upward mobility.
Yeah, partying for a year was pretty great, but it's turned out to be the worst year of my life. 2.8 out of 4 btw.
Is there some kind of forgiveness? I thought my university had that... where if you screwed up you can kind of start over, but I don’t know about the money.
Universities are desperate to keep students from transferring. I think in my state the average is only 40 percent of incoming freshmen graduate from the first college they enrolled in. The others drop out or transfer.
If your school is tuition driven, they might have s program where you can clean your slate. They NEED you there.
How do I decide when to start streaming?
Just be a forestry firefighter. That's what I am gonna do. I too fell for the college meme and am an archaeology major. I had a huge change of heart a month or two ago when I actually considered working with the insufferable faggots that make up modern academia, making shit pay unless I have a master's, and having to travel all the time when I have a dog I don't want to leave all the time. Anyway, I landed on forestry fire fighter because of a friend and a similar desire to do shit in nature. Just so happens you can eventually get a managerial position with an archaeology background so the teams don't burn archaeological remains. Definitely wouldn't want to start there though.
I'll have to look into seeing if there's any sort of forgiveness system. My school's so big (over 60,000 students) so I don't think they care too much what happens to me. They just want my money
In my defense, my school was a terrible, small school. I did actuslly go to the career counselor once, and she just googled stuff which I had already done. I don’t even remember seeing a job fair on campus. We didn’t really have any small talks... a few large ones where the community attends. I went to those.
Could always go coast guard and keep the drug runners/illegals out.
live on welfare, fuck the system which is designed to crush you and make you controllable. use the money to feed your family and feed as many children as you want to make. don't be ashamed; millions of spics and niggers do it so why should a (I assume) a white man put up with such shit just to give their money away in taxes to them?
Do you have any talents that might demonstrate something to an employer? For example, I make art, and gave the link on my resume. Now, I manage art exhibits at the university where I work. Turns out they wanted someone to frame art, too.
So, an activity I did on my own helped me. I also taught myself to build websites.
Also it's a requirement to be good at talking to people to be a good PI
If you want to be a PI move to Mississippi.
Cost of living is low. Pretty redpilled state. And its the only state I know that will allow you to get a license without being previous law enforcement
>Nazi flag
>advocates welfare-leeching
Absolutely degenerate. Arbeitsscheu retards like you would be the first in the camps
Fair enough.
Though you really should have talked to your professors.
Counselors are useless universally, mine fucked me over too.
That was wholesome, user
Maybe I'm just bad at networking because it's not paying off for me despite the hours I put into it.
>you'll never have time to do anything while you are making money for other people
That's been the most apparent lesson I've learned. I'm thinking that private investigation is good freelance work.
Need a degree for management.
I'm thinking I'll go talk to an investigation agency tomorrow. Not sure what I'll say other than
>how can i be just like you?
OK then, wagecuck so this wondeful multiracial utopia can continue to exist.
I know a guy who does just that and its more trouble than its worth. He has to LARP as a poorfag when in reality he averages about $1000 a week working for my company under the table but still claims he's broke and jobless so he gets that EBT food for his wife and kid and probably section 8 too since it takes him nearly 2 weeks to pick up his fucking money even though he lives less than 10 miles away from me
He goes through all that bullshit just to get a few hundred bucks shaved off his rent and $400 in food for himself, his wife and kid
Yeah, change majors. I would definitely do that if that's a feasible choice. You've come this far; just bang out a degree, regardless of what it is. It's better to have a degree in anything than half an engineering degree. And there are jobs out there that require a degree though it doesn't matter what you majored in. Lots of employers just want to know you can commit and a degree is proof of that. Stay in the game, grab the degree, and then focus on work and family when you're done.
Still tax on that.
>live off the ZOG dole to fight the system
I didn’t learn how to talk to people until after college at my job. I don’t know why... talking in class always felt stupid... we never talked about anything interesting and people said completely stupid things all the time. But at work, I speak because it’s clear as to why it’s important. College just feels like a poor imitation of the real world.
>College just feels like a poor imitation of the real world.
Congratulations. You are now an adult.
I didn’t understand that’s what you’re supposed to do. I thought it was like high school. No one talked to my teachers in high school or made connections with them. I just assumed it would be the same in college.
Maybe I was stupid, but I don’t understand how people just know this. Now there’s a lot more advice online at least.
a profession that pays well is unfortunately not chosen by you, it is chosen by the market. you have a limited amount of options if you only follow the money, but I do believe god has plans for everyone even in those circumstances. I think you should finish the engineering thing. if this is your first job: news flash college is a job simulation. college is designed to be just as soul crushing as work because if it wasn't no proper business would take it seriously. but other then the attitude others are around you if you feel morally or spiritually this is wrong, if it goes against your conscience then I'd do something else.
That's probably what I'd say, or more formally
"I am interested in doing this for a living, what should I study and develop a background in to help me do what you do?"
You didn't fail anything. You were victims of a corrupt system that has gone senile and should be taken out behind the barn.
If anything, you'd be better off just not stepping foot in one of those brainwashing facilities again and regain the entrepreneurial mindset that made Western civilization great. You have the world at your fingertips. Lead the charge against corrupt academia and become a role model to a new generation.
Archaeology is a beautiful profession, but it does seem like it's been spoiled by modern academia. I was considering archaeology for a while too.
White as a lily. I've been that low before and it's not a life I want my kids to have.
My only real talent is a recently developed strong work ethic.
Most states don't require a legal background for a PI license, including Georgia, where I live now.
You better cherish her. Life can come at you fast, and take her away from you at the most unexpected point, robbing you of the paths one might expect in life. Cherish the times you have shared together, and work on building a future for your children. Do NOT give up, when you still have her to fight for.
I was lucky enough to live in a dorm freshman year with some Professor's kids who taught me how to do it.
Now I get to continue the cycle of higher ed, woooo.
I doubt legit PI's want newbies. They want former cops or they want your money to train you in some sort of scam.
If you're willing to travel and be gone from home for long periods, look into the marine industry.
You can be making in excess of $100k/yr within 3 years, if you're hard working enough and determined.
Just be somewhat young and in good health, gotta pass physical and forget it if you've ever been convicted of selling drugs or domestic violence.
At this point it's only middle class White men keeping the western countries running with their taxes. Were this class to stop working itself to feed foreign parasites to breed at a faster rate than them the it would only serve as accelerationism towards the imminent collapse of western society.
Solid advice.
>it's better to have a degree in anything than half an engineering degree
Especially here. That really speaks to me.
>college just feels like a poor imitation of the real world
Fuck, man. It sure does.
That's because college IS a poor imitation of the real world, to put it in a way to understand its like beating a video game on easy mode. The working world is like Normal or Hard Mode by comparison
Still though even if you got through college and didn't get much from it you're still better set up than someone who never goes at all.
Do you have a high IQ? It’s probably higher than average if you’re in college studying engineering. Work ethic plus IQ are the greatest predictors of life success. It’s better to be born poor with those attributes than well off without them. The poor person will actuslly make more money over his life than the well off person.
>not having 4.0 GPA in mechanical engineering and getting well paying interesting jobs without much effort