(((Jordan Peterson)))

>Yes Goy, nationalism is bad. Collectivism is bad, just look at Japan ! Become individualists, hail dog eat dog world ! hail capitalism !

What did he mean by this ?

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>siding with the tiny cuck over the hydra

It's your mind set that sucks.

The irony is that cuckservatives are being swallowed up by the stronger alt-right collective.

How often has this shit to be discussed on here? Peterson is like a father figure to all the males around who where brought up without a father. Even if the father was physically present, thanks to liberalism, he/they employed low investment parenting caring jack shit about their child. Hence, these young males finally find someone to look up to, someone who tells them what it means to be an adult, what it means to be a man.

So what is Peterson presenting? Adulthood as radical self-responsibility. Similar ideas can be found in Hitler/NatSoc (eternal strugge, sacrifice, work etc) but Hitler goes further towards collectivism for all "his" people. Peterson stops before going into collectivism, he promotes radical self-responsibility for the individual, that's it. See it as a stepping stone and advance the ideas towards radical self-responsibility for your people and you got some parts of NatSoc. If you can't see this then you are just an idiot. Peterson's ideas are imperative for the modern man to learn so that he will learn to progress through eternal struggle. This coming man will have the powers to take on greater tasks, to advance this ideas, spread it to the masses, to the Volk. If you already know the National Socialist ideas, then he won't tell you much new, yet, when you know the National Socialist ideas, how can you not see the relevance of his teachings?

TLDR:
>OP is an ignorant devide and conquer shill most likely

There is nothing conservative about individualism. Jordan Peterson is a retard.

>(((peterson)))
>individualism is good for you goy
>im totally with you,goy,see,i hate sjw's too!
>im one of you goy!

Rampant individualism encourages the anarchical profileration of egoism at the expense of the values that were once part of the national heritage,values that give form to the concept of nationhood and the nation state, to a state which is more than just a political entitiy, and which corresponds to a particular people who are conscious of sharing a common heritage for the survival of which they are prepared to make personal sacrificies.
Peterson is a leaf and anyone expecting something good is a clinical retard.

I appreciate seeing this image here.

You see, what most people do not understand is that each of us have the sole authority to decide what is best for ourselves.

When a State/Nation/Government becomes an apparatus to decide for us how we shall live, who says that government has it right.

How many people are harmed by legislative action or executive enforcement of laws that are in contrast to that of the Laws of Nature's Creator (God's law)?

Compare that to the single man or woman and their own mistakes. The damages are far less with individual people than it is when it a mistake is made by a Government.

Those who believe in collectivism in one form or another, they do not understand these basic principles and partly it is due to mass misinformation and disinformation (propaganda) which has molded them.

I hope this response will help many others understand how this all works.

If you want to be free, truly free, this means that each of us have to be responsible for our own actions. We are going to make mistakes and get injured..it's life. We trip as babies when we learn to walk. Why is it that people do not understand that fucking up is part of learning and wisdom is learning from the mistakes of others...or our own mistakes.

If anyone wants to chat, I'm usually on the Calm Before the Storm posting here.

I look forward to really amazing conversations...test me, but do it with honor..

Fascism and nationalism are a form of individualism. I think actual literal autists and sociopaths confuse selfishness for individualism

>Reddit spacing

>Obvious Reddit is back

Peterson is one those who tell other what to think.
Beware of people wanting to tell you what to think.

#iLikeNazisLmaoImDeep lelelelelXDDXDD

Hail Hydra!

Radical individualism.
I guess this high IQ nibba never read Sun Tzu.
Divide and conquer, individualism is the ultimate divide and conquer.

The videos I have seen from him do not proclaim this at all. So far it's along the lines of "take responsibility for your actions" and "voice your opionen, even if bad, so that you learn from that and be better tomorrow than you were yesterday". Essentially, his mindset of self-responsibility is typical American conservative viewpoint, because self-responsibility derives a small welfare state, low taxes, high economic freedom, strong individuals who don't want a big state etc...

Where exactly does he tell other people what to think. And please be very specific because literally 99.999% of all media/news today try to tell you what to think if you define that too broadly.

There are groups that are not divided. They are the ones taking over, or have already taken over. Either by infiltrating media, academia and finance, or just by breeding and immigrating more population.

...

Individualism might work if you were a literal god, no human can defend themselves alone against the hydra heads.

>Being this naive about Jewish manipulation.
If everyone is an individual... no one will be.

> I don't know about Chile in the 1960's and before

He's a fag. These motherfuckers are why we can't get more accomplished.

Take away the communism and that dragon is perfect. Individualism is a meme and a very loosely defined one. Does he mean AnCap, cause that's fucking retarded.

>If everyone is an individual...

How arrogant. Most people are simply NPC's who'll respond with pre-determined answers void of critical thinking. Just because they differ 1-2% from the norm doesn't mean they are an individual, most are simply replaceable and nobody would notice if they are gone.

Individualism was a very liberal idea by the standards of the late 18th century, but it's part of the whole "strike out and make your fortune", "fuck the government", "muh freedom" persona/founding myth/cultural fabric of the United States. The fact that the left abandoned individualism in favor of collectivism over the last 20-30 years means that individualism is now, relatively, a conservative idea.

>most people aren't even human

That guy is a complete retardeder.

I started watching the video where he tries to explain hitler. When he started using psychological reinforcement theory, I just stopped the video. Anyone who follows him is a retard.

Also, reminder that America used to be filled to the brim with nationalistic whites and we still turned into what we are today. Getting back to that state wouldn't be a cure all, it's just mean we'd have stopped full retard leftism for, maybe, 3-4 generations at most

I do hope to see an American Pinochet. God, I hate you people so much.

Jordan Peterson's actual message is irrelevant.

He's a symbol that conservative voices can not always simply be shouted down, not even in the country run by Castro junior. For that he's useful.

the problem with JP's philosophy is that the individuals will be completely devoured by the average-intelligence-and-below masses

the "individuals" need to band together. maybe something like....

If you go simply by "human = biological organism" then of course my post doesn't make much sense. But if you add certain natural (psychological) characteristics to being human then no, I would not say that most modern people are actually human, they are anti-humans.

>So what is Peterson presenting? Adulthood as radical self-responsibility

Can you link to the video. All the videos I have seen of him outside of standing up for free speech are retarded.

get out you reddit spacing faggot

He's just a more eloquent and educated version or your average MGTOW youtube blogger only he has the sense not to mention his patreon page at the end of every video.

Exactly, the radical individualists will be leaders needed to guide their people towards a collectivist future. And by that I mean the right amount of collectivism, not communsim obviously. You have to find the balance between individualism and collectivism.

I like peterson less and less as time goes on. Individualism is why whites are on the ropes in 2017 as all other groups are collectivized and strong.

>cant spot the not so subtle nudges peterson uses
Im sorry for you.

The joke is you're posting under a Nazi flag.

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He has now the followers and personal cult,its time to slowly reveal the true himself.
Jew101

Useless fags like you don't get to leech from others is what he meant.

As any celebrity, peterson is narcissistic. Big surprise.

"Conservative", the guy wants to conserve multi-racialism and multi-culturalism.
The problem with "conservative" is that it is always losing ground, it's just a slowdown mechanism which means the society won't have warning about when it's fucked or not.

Great, so you are not help at all. So if he uses, according to you, "subtle nudges", I shall automatically dismiss the relevant points he presents? That would imply dismissing literally everybody because there is no single person who has "the full truth".

>a society can't be a collective of admirable individuals AKA fascism

>you are no help at all
I presented quite a good argument,nobody dares to touch it,faggot.

I never understood all the hype around this guy. It seems to me he once refused to call trannies "she" and strarted a whole e-celeb business about being a reverse drama-queen. And he starting whining even more when (((Google))) decided to delete his gmail account.

Tbh I've so little interrest for him I though for quite a time that Jared Taylor and himself were the same person.

>its time to slowly reveal the true himself.
>Jew101
god i fucking hope so.

Collectivism/Nationalism can be bad, it does fly in the face of individualism. That being said, it is absolutely necessary as a means of protecting one's culture, identity, and ironically--individualism.

Right now nationalism is something the western world needs. Once it has been realized by the west, it will abandon it in favor for individualism. And things will be fine for a time, and then the cycle will repeat.

Point is, he's right. You can't really have it both ways in the end.

Its already too late,the personal cult is well inoculated in his memeplexes to blindly follow,just look at the nazi flag faggot.
But hey,its leafland,nobody expected anything else above the IQ of an ant.

Nationalism in a country like America that has never really been one race/people.

That fucking hydra is going to murder the soy boy just saying.
Individualism is suicide in the face of invading collectivists.

"muhhhh I'm Jordan PeterStein---muhhhh holocaust is a serious issue, unlike gender identification"

>Individualism is why whites are on the ropes in 2017 as all other groups are collectivized and strong.
False.

>Interviewer: Do you believe in God?
>JP: It depends on what you mean by "God", and what you mean by "believe".
>Interviewer: ...
>JP: It's no bloody joke by ANY stretch of the imagination!

It's funny because only in a fantasy world; like picture related, would Individualism defeat that.

Just like in real life.

Nobody commented on your argument because it is correct. But it has no relevance to the argument I was making, to which you responded. I talked in about this. His ideas (not all of them, cherrypicking helps) are needed for weak males to become strong men/individuals. Once achieved, they have the power to touch greater projects which go beyond the individual.

There are way too much videos from him to filter out some stuff, here are a few. Keep in mind, he touches very very basic stuff. People lurking on Sup Forums for a longer period of time won't learn much new.

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dude dont upset the kollege kids, he is their god

>argument about why individualism brought upon us the current situation
>its irrelevant goy!
Kek.

Literally what? You are not making any sense. Yet, you are just here to shitpost it seems. God nu/pol/ is really cancer.

This.
The reason Jewry caused our modern culture to completely focus on materialism is because extreme individualism shatters society. We are not a western civilization any longer because everyone has been brainwashed into competing against their neighbors, in a bid to get more money for more material objects. A functioning society is based on communities that work togeather for the benefit of the whole society. People won’t do this today because all they believe in is the material life.
>no God, so no afterlife, so no point in this life, other than to consume as much as possible as quickly as possible.
>no point in this life, so no point in the future. Concepts like nationalism also go straight in the bin, because there is ultimately no point in anything so who cares about counties and nations.
This is also why Islam is beginning to be a continual and growing threat, there is no culture left to stop it.

mummy is so cute

If you look at the USA you see 55% of whites choosing republicans and 45% choosing democrats. Compare that to jews and latinos being 70% democrat and blacks at 90%. You can see some sort of collective mind aimed at defending their interrests aginst the whites, something the whites are discourraged to have.

Keep screeching,you played your hand and lost.

The collective mind comes from the democrats promising more gibs/rights to minorities. They are all egoists who don't care about society, otherwise they wouldn't leave their homecountry but would try to improve it. Maybe it is a bit difference for the offspring of the slaves because they were forced to come there, but usual immigrants coming from shithole country, they are basically traitors to their own people.

He's way more supportive of the jews, but you don't see shills trying to shut him down like richard spencer

Topkek, you just ignored what I wrote where I AGREED with you, and then you claimed I ignore that argument... you literally seem to lack reading comprehension or just shitpost on purpose.

Wonder why they leave him be

4D chess, he's showing its an impossible fight. Subtle redpill.

this desu, it's obvious he's just trying to cash in on all the singleparent household neets who need (((self-help))) memes.

Exactly! Like the strings on a puppet. People focus on the puppet strings never seeing (((the puppet masters))). You can even see it in their rainbow; everyone's light brought into the white mans diamond of freedom for them to mold into any color they like.

> America is how Chile was
?

And yet every 5 minutes he goes off on Hitler and nazis being absolute evil. Great stepping stone.

Juden Peterstein

I liked listening to his lectures but as I was listening it seems to me like his lectures are destructive. If everyone who listens to him becomes an individualist then he is going to be responsible for helping to destroy the white male demographic. He admits himself that most of his audience is white males. Fucker is trying to destroy us, it seems.

that Hydra is NAZBOL

This. Thousand times this. Religion used to be the force to keep the masses in line, nowadays it's more complicated

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I thought Peterson's analsis into Hitler was insightful. He basically said the authoritarianism came from a strong desire for order, which makes sense given both Hitler's personality and the context of post-ww1 Germany which was in disorder and had racial impurities perceived as parasites on the German people

You're full of shit to compare Peterson with MGTOW. Peterson is a strong proponent of marriage as a fundamental element of a healthy society. He's just analytical enough to make the same observations as MGTOW but his disposition is not in line with those selfish quitters

there's no way you can watch his videos and be that ignorant

notice how you made no argument except "he's destructive" with no particular examples

fuck off shill, and sort yourself out

good goy. be an individual while the retarded masses of niggers, spics, and cucks devours you.

good goy. don't band together to protect yourself and your way of thinking

good goy. the true power is in the individual. that's why every movement in human history has relied upon groups of like-minded and strong-willed people

good goy. just go extince.

the problem is he already talks about how hitler viewed the jews with disgust, but he never actually examines whether they should rightly be viewed with disgust. that's how it always goes. people walk right up to the jewish question and then just stop and turn around

Might as well add another head that says Family.

Be an individual, avoid nations, races and voting...
Got it...
I'm off to build my rocket and make like a tree..

Looks like your all getting shoa'd one way or another

Quality post.

Exactly my thoughts. Remember that they were just a random scapegoat, goy!

>people walk right up to the jewish question and then just stop and turn around
THIS THIS THIS THIS

Fucking Peterson is so intellectually dishonest it makes me SICK. If you watch a significant amount of his lectures, he says the same line over and over: "... but he [Solzhenitsyn, Jung, etc] took the matter seriously!" He uses this line when discussing religion, for example, saying that atheists who dismiss god and the bible as just fairy tales "aren't taking the matter seriously!"

Well, Jordan, why don't YOU take the matter seriously? You say that the Nazis viewed the Jews with disgust but then just stop right there and call the Nazis "unquestionably evil" and all that garbage that you're programmed to think. Why don't you FOLLOW YOUR OWN RHETORIC? Why don't you examine why the Nazis hated the Jews and why the Jews have been expelled hundreds of times throughout history?

He's either being intentionally dishonest of he has no balls. Either way his rhetoric of "just tell the TRUTH! That's the power of the individual!" breaks down completely in this light.

I saw him on Fox and Friends and he blatantly says "Hitler felt as though Jews were victimizing Germany," and just stopped there. Well... WERE THEY?!

I saw a snippit of a webcam interview Petersson gave where he admitted that a lot of his friends in academia were jewish on YouTube like half a year ago

Fuck this kike shill.

When are people going to realise that all this fellow male does is create diversions and gives mislead talking points? He job is to soften our movement with his lolbertarian shit. Unless he puts on a Stahlhelm, wears a Hakenkreuzflagge flag as a cape, does the roman salute and a goose walk while claiming ''Hitler did nothing wrong'', then he will always be a kike shill.

if he ever comes to speak near me i am finding a way to get into that audience and to ask him these questions i've already outlined in my posts here:

>what happens to the individuals, who will be a minority because to understand this philosophy you have to have some level of intelligence and discipline which most people lack, when the masses of people who identify with groups devours them?

>why do you avoid topics on the JQ? Have you examined what jews were doing to germany and europe in the first half of the 20th century and even before that to other cultures?

god fucking damn it i hope he comes to speak here i will fight a dude for that mic to ask these questions

>How often has this shit to be discussed on here? Peterson is like a father figure to all the males around who where brought up without a father. Even if the father was physically present, thanks to liberalism, he/they employed low investment parenting caring jack shit about their child. Hence, these young males finally find someone to look up to, someone who tells them what it means to be an adult, what it means to be a man.
>So what is Peterson presenting? Adulthood as radical self-responsibility. Similar ideas can be found in Hitler/NatSoc (eternal strugge, sacrifice, work etc) but Hitler goes further towards collectivism for all "his" people. Peterson stops before going into collectivism, he promotes radical self-responsibility for the individual, that's it. See it as a stepping stone and advance the ideas towards radical self-responsibility for your people and you got some parts of NatSoc. If you can't see this then you are just an idiot. Peterson's ideas are imperative for the modern man to learn so that he will learn to progress through eternal struggle. This coming man will have the powers to take on greater tasks, to advance this ideas, spread it to the masses, to the Volk. If you already know the National Socialist ideas, then he won't tell you much new, yet, when you know the National Socialist ideas, how can you not see the relevance of his teachings?
>TLDR:
>>OP is an ignorant devide and conquer shill most likely


tldr peterson is promoting selfish selfie fascism !!

>Implying you wouldnt get booed by his mob of hivemind individualists

Without respect for the self you can never have true respect for others

To see an (((American))) have a disdain for individualism shows how subverted we have become. Fuck off nigger.

>implying i would give a shit

nice strawman faggot. you can have self-respect while being the member of a strong group. that may enhance your self-respect, actually.

fuck you jew bastard.

>denies self worth without attachment to a group
>respect for self

You are admitting yourself to be less than human. Completely pathetic

I meant like silenced. For most free speechers fun is over when your speech attacks the chosen people

time of genuine philosophers is over

No we're just teaming up like you do Jew.

have fun being a superior individual intellectual while hordes of niggers, slimes, spics, and cucks smother you completely

your understanding of individualism is very shallow.
Read what Julius Evola had to say about the American mind.