What do leftists actually want?

They always seem to have this weird desire to destroy everything about a culture. They often seem almost non-human to me because they seem to take great pleasure in subverting cultural norms and basically trashing everything sacred. What gives? Why are they like this and what do they want?

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Nothing less than total destruction of our society

They want whites to be minorities in their ancestral homelands and eventually to be bred out of existence.

For this to be our future

as a leftist i can tell you what i want, my goal is to have as few people suffer as possible, with no regard for race or nationality.

They are not leftists per se, but deconstructionists. They are created by culture to test all of our concepts, traditions, and values. Those that can be deconstructed ARE deconstructed. This is a self-cleaning function of the culture, to ready itself.

Protip: what you think is old school traditional culture is not really old school at all and if it cant bear the onslaught of some deconstruction analysis, then it is not worth defending at all.

Underrated.

Leftists have no endgoal. Their ideology is to destroy; and when they've destroyed something they sought out to destroy, they find the next thing to destroy.

It's a culture bent on destruction and it will find things to destroy.

They want revenge against God.

Don't worry, we'll make sure you're euthanized in a humane manner.

modern American leftism is a combination of puritanism, hedonistic individualism, and egalitarianism, taken to its logical conclusion. leftists are basically religious fanatics condemning what they view as the moral impurity of society for failure to live up to these ideals. This is why they are so obsessed with people of color and immigrants (egalitarianism) with weird sexual culture (hedonism and individualism - the only moral judgment allowed is to judge someone for making a moral judgement), and why there's so much shaming, political correctness (common forms of Puritan social control) etc.

these forms predate Jewish influence. Jewish influence is like catching the flu when you already have AIDS from the Enlightenment and Puritanism.

But why? Why do they get so much pleasure out of it?

You do know what a pipedream that is, right?

I honestly don't know.

A total genocide of all white people.

name culture that cant be deconstructed

Also take the Ted pill

They view western society as inherently flawed. The only way to free the dindus from slavery by whites is to burn the constitution. There is no other way for them

Leftists, or what passes for them these days, are the useful idiots of globalists and socialists. Their agenda is a mish mash of Marxism and elite liberal rule, and what they want is what Soros tells them they want. They're trying to destroy society to take over and create a globalist tyranny.

They can't create, they hate that others can so they destroy instead.

“Nigh 2500 years and no new gods!!!” — Nietzsche.

Smart and resourceful cultures are constantly checking and testing themselves to prep in case an adversary deconstructs them first. And there could be feautures and practices of a culture that are not deconstructible. There can be cultures that are wholly pragmatist.

a non answer.

the spiritual, cultural and psychosocial assault on our Western nations and peoples is a great injustice and will be answered in kind.

I agree, we should return to monarchy, dismantling power systems and stopping people from being fucked by a privileged class of elites is totally KEKED.

>>>mfw American conservatives claim to be defenders of liberty while fighting tooth and nail to assure that power remains concentrated in the hands of oligarchs

>>>mfw they have the gall to call their opponents cucks while they fall over each other to be the first to suck the capitalists' cocks

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It is an answer. First of all, your so called traditional culture is the forced upon violence of a barbarian race that exploited the apocalypse situation of Roman civilization. If violence is prevented and rational discourse allowed, this culture inevitably loses and is exposed as fraudlent. It relies on non rational emotional manipulation to exist. You asked me to name a culture resistant to serious deconstructive onslaught, my answer is that we are building one out of the ashes of the weakness whose demise you lament like a crying woman.

The vast majority of them do not put any thought into what they want. All they care about is one of four things:

1) Social status
Leftism dominates culture, thought and open political opinions. Opinion leaders are almost all shitlibs. Everyone else just goes along with the crowd. It's like the Jonestown cult.

2) Protection as a member of X group
They bought into the narrative so hard that they cannot comprehend that the other side doesn't want violence, it just wants them to go away. Otherwise, if they don't feel victimized, they want to "show solidarity" with a friend that they do feel is victimized, feeding itself back into 1.

3) gibsmedats
Self explanatory

4) Good feelings
Shitlibs want to feel like they're doing the right thing and helping the world, and on its face with no further thought put into it, their ideas seem to have that effect.

As you can see, leftists are incredibly selfish, self-serving people. Hence why they freak out when you criticize them and hit them back. They take all criticism as a personal attack.

Don't you actually think America is heading towards Marxism? We're going in the opposite direction, and fast.

>culture resistant to serious deconstructive onslaught,

But user marxism and diversity have been debunked and are clearly not resistant. So what now?

And this new culture will make use of the entire mass of world history and world cultures. This is why we import so many foreigners, we are using them. The entirity of life itself, in its manifold diversity is our material, our resource, to paint anew the canvas of life, the foundation of civilization, an indestructible and antifragile way of life.

>demise

it will only take one Hitler like figure to finish what he started. do you think it will be within 10 years? 5? even a single year.

I agree we will head in the opposite direction towards decentralized freedom and individualism; however marxism is a beast that will probably draw blood as it dies. So we are not getting there fast.

We use Marxists but we are post-Marxists just as we are post-liberal. Diversity is the basis of our resourcefulness and necessary to prepare the material out of which the new culture is being constructed.

But user, the benefits of some cultures will be destroyed when diversity tears apart strong cultures. You do understand racial differences and the fact that some are inferior do you not? Do you ignore science?

Those are nice Holiday lights, don't see scenes like that in Cali.

Well, obviously everybody isn't going to sit around the campfire holding hands and singing kumbaya are they?

These are squables about minor questions of style, not about the overall project at hand.

leftists want everyone to like them and wan't to continually signal that they are likable to everyone.

If you recognize that from a political standpoint you start to understand why the left's policies are so self destructive, because for everyone to like you there's no way to keep what you have intact if someone else doesn't have it.

Diversity actually destroys progress as lesser humans who are incapable of contribution are brought in and slow down the system. Do you hate science user?

ah so you're just mentally ill or LARPing

sad

Leftists and liberals are as bad as niggers. All they do is ruin good things. True story!

Every inequality or inferiority is relational. A weakness here is a strength there. All of it in totality is a resource. Every racial characteristic has something of value that we can magnify, focus on, and use for our benefit.

Disagreed. Our leftists are moving farther left faster than the right wing is heading farther right. The American right mostly consists of boomer cuckservatives. Trump would not have won without the boomer vote. I do not expect a bright future.

Self hate.
They can't fit so they destroy

The ship is at sea mate, you can steer it here or there but the destination is not up for discussion.

I wrestle with the idea if it’s actual genocide as much as it is creating a unified race worldwide which is more accepting of open borders. Kind of the same thing, but hear me out.

Open borders equate to freedom of travel, leading to increased consumerism and spending, and more profit in (((their))) pockets due to hugely untapped markets, and the lack of any tariffs/import feed. This will eventually lead to corporations not only controlling the US, but the world.

At the end of the day, I feel the destruction of not only white culture, but eventually Asian culture, is to change the population to a single race to increase (((their))) bottom line. Pretty fucking morbid.

>A weakness here is a strength there
No science has proven some peoples are intellectually incapable of contribution. Why do you hate science so much user?

>Be total loser
>Be really lazy
>Be really stupid
>No way am I gonna earn money or work out or whatever
>Gotta find some way to stop being at bottom
>Here's an idea
>Being at the bottom is being at the top
>I WIN REEEEEEE

Leftists see the State as an omnipotent God machine that keeps people as indoor housepets, not as a social compact between individuals . Leftists look at society and compare it to an unobtainable fantasy Utopia, and of course it is sorely lacking in that regard. But the truth is, we live in a Golden Age. It has never been better than it is right now in most of the West. But that isn't good enough for the Leftist. It needs to be better. It needs to be perfect. And since the current system cannot deliver the perfection the Leftist desires, it must be burned to the ground so it can be rebuilt. Never mind that all forms of Leftism eventually fail spectacularly. It will work this time. Surely. Remember, the Leftist Utopia is always just another ten million murders away.

user, what you think is stupidity is a savage stubborness that can be bred into the future overman. What you think is mindless violence is the ferocity of overman’s anger. What you think is incapable of contribution of science will be the forefather of a trait that in future years will enable the overman to momentarily stop doing science in order to conduct necessary pacifications.

Ah, I see you've read Nietzsche.

They may have physical superiority and athletic capability that will be of value.

Ted (the Unabomber) Kaczynski had leftists pegged right from the start. Victims, eternal victims devoid of logic or rationality

My liberal neighbor bitches to the apartment manager about my Christmas lights. I hate her.

That is what those at the top ultimately want, yes. Bezos, Zuckerberg et all shill for open borders for the money. They don't care about left-wing principles, but use the left ideologues and average joes as useful idiots. The average left-winger has no idea how supportive of the establishment they actually are. They imagine themselves to be underdogs, somehow.

They seem nonhuman because they are demon possessed.
Exorcisms are skyrocketing, even amateurs are getting into into it

user you just admitted they are inferior. So you do understand science you just live in an illogical fantasy. user why do you hate logic?

Jews have been doing this to us over and over for the last two thousand years at least

please see

We replaced them with machines and automation. Do you hate science? How niggers could be considered useful in any way, shape or form in modern times is absurd.

This is accurate.

Most, if not 90% of people in the west feel the positive energy from things like patriotic celebration, Christmas, etc. The traditions fill them with a sense of belonging and oneness with the community.

Even foreigners can come and appreciate it. Not these people. They are trained at birth, and some inherently born with, a deep loathing for everything and everyone good. They hate themselves, and then they hate the world, and in the end, they hate God.

Misery loves company. Leftists have nothing going for themselves so they seek to destroy others who do. They want everyone to be brought down to their level of nigger tier. Seeing based cis-gendered males living a happy life is excruciating for them. That is the life they wanted and failed at. Now they will stop at nothing to make sure no one has it if they cannot

If the you think about it, the Constitution is a anti Puritain document. Everyone hated those self righteous fuckers and the wrote a basis for government that would keep them from seizing power. And since modern Leftists are modern day Puritains...

Modern progressivism still has its roots in communism, and communism in that bastardized revolution the French had. They're idealists to the extreme and believe they can build a perfect world once they've burned down the old one. They're monsters and every decent person should be terrified by how much power these freaks have in our society.

not really. For instance Jefferson was a literal Jacobin. the US constitution was the culmination of Enlightenment thought at the time. of course there are no breaks on the Progressive train so things were only going to go further left from there.

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Destroying western civ basically.

The American Constitution is more of an anti-Monarchy document. It is based entirely around the idea of separating itself from the hereditary governments of Europe at the time.

Modern progressivism's roots go much deeper than that, arguably even being able to be traced to the original Athenian democracy. It is the natural evolution of the West's long history of lurching ever more towards individual rights and egalitarianism over results

This is the anxiety of being out competed. If they are so inferior, why the hostility? We will let it be a neutral game and may the best win.

I hope you're trolling but I know a lot of you fucks are actually this insane.

It is simple my friend. If you want to create a new culture (nay, if you have to), why limit the raw material available to you? Why not allow yourself— give youeself permission— to have access to all of the playdough in existence? It just makes sense.

So...we can assume you are a nigger. Go make yourself 'useful'.

Get thee behind me satan. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Go to hell.

the leftists are no more than betas who identify themselves with all oppressed minorities and who detest every sign of power, beauty, strength, dignity,purity.....
they are subhuman

You are simply accustomed to an unfair advantage. We are guided by Nature itself. We prescribe brutal neutrality and those who succesd win the right of being a part of the future under construction.

They start with an axiom that blacks are equal to whites.
Everything about society proves that wrong.
Instead of changing their axiom, they have to scrap society.

This is what happens when ideology comes before evidence.

There is no alternative. There is no real hope. You either get with the program or you relegate yourself to the dustbins of history.

NO
,eanster europe says NO
russia says NO
and wenster europe will say NO

That being, we limited ourselves to using your type to make culture run properly and you fresk out when we bring in new material and more raw resources. You are the lump of clay anxious that another lump from across the river is now included in the process.

Russians have the freedom or lets say leverage to negotiate a more involved role for themselves. And we took all of their best minds already. They are extremely impoverished as it is. Eastern europe as well. Western Europe knows what happens when you rock the boat with philistine idiocy.

>Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality. It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others (prioritarianism), as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished (by advocating for social justice). The term left-wing can also refer to "the radical, reforming, or socialist section of a political party or system".

>muh unfair advantage
It's because we whiteys have magical powers called memes.

They want to be revolutionaries. Revolutions destroy things. They have no idea how to create

Its because we — for no rational good reason — limited ourselves to you solely for too long a time. The times are becoming neutral (read: equal), and you bitch about everyone else being inherently inferior so as to keep all the attention and value on yourself. Let us see if they are inherently inferior. Perhaps a little perhaps not much perhaps not enough to make a real difference. Perhaps we used up the high quality fuel and now our new coal is less efficient to power the furnace but more plentiful— so a better choice.

Just more gibs

>equality
>nature
Pick one.

Neutrality. And yes in nature everything is equally forced to survive on sheer willpower alone, not inherited privileges.

Bro we just don't want shit like the Holocuast and slavery to happen again, and we don't want shit like Sharia law in the US. We acknowledge that most of the needless deaths in history stem from misguided patriotism or xenophobia or greed that turns into war.

All I see on your side are zealots. You care nothing about anything except 'winning'. Your god, your country, your race, you wanted it exalted. You want people to lick your boots as you lick the boots of your superiors, and torture and murder for any who disagree with god-given greatness.

How is affirmative action, white privilege, tax brackets etc equal? You're trying to force equality where it doesn't exist, and then say everyone's playing by the same rules and it's just you who is bad at the game. Disingenuous at best, hypocritical at worst.

The alt right is just as bad at the sjw left. Both want death and just to "win".

>survive on sheer willpower
Doesn't the superior intelligence and ability to use tools to better exploit and defend resources count for anything? Kek.

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I think a big part of leftism is the ghetto syndrome. Nobody wants you to have what they don't have. Everything triggers them, talent, success, happiness... they're a sad bunch that wants to everyone to be as miserable as they are.

This is a difficult transition period. Corrective measures are necessary. And as we enable a neutral test of value, these ill effects of such measures are progressively ameliorated. Eventually they become wholly unnecessary.

Well, at least you admit to your own bullshit. I suppose we will just have to 'correct' again, and while difficult, it is necessary.

Yes, someday we'll all be equal if you keep feeding them long enough. The nigger are just going to magically transform into humans some day, because reasons.

I am a pretty liberal guy but affirmative action is bull shit. Barry Goldwater was right on about this issue.

When you hire a black person not able to the job it harms every black person because it causes a racial stigma. Key example obama. You will never see another black president again.

The sjw does not exist. It is a propaganda tool. And no, the left does not want to 'win'. That's the fundamental misunderstanding in my opinion; that and rural vs urban culture.

A leftist does not take pride in 'winning' or feel that rush like the right does, commies and such aside. We just feel a little less scared every time we win something, and wonder if this is finally the time when we crest the horizon and never fall back down the slope of intolerance.

Basically, we try to win because we feel we have too. There is no joy in it for us, not like for you.

>leftists are a lost generation that struggle to find any meaning in their lives other than being consumers.

Maybe. We’ll see. When you have to prevent true neutrality and have grown so accustomed to having the game tipped in your favor that you try to convince everyone else that your opponent will lose anyway because they are simply losers... one wonders why you don’t simply play the game on neutral grounds instead? Perhaps that will be the way to actually prove it.

Or, perhaps millions of your type are actually coasting along and would not survive a truly neutral competitive landscape. Some will, but many wont. And likewise, some of the others wont but many will survive— thrive in fact.