Catholics of Sup Forums, are you doing your part to support the Church's official teachings...

Catholics of Sup Forums, are you doing your part to support the Church's official teachings, over and against the Jesuits and theologians that want to change them? Are you supporting orthodox priests, bishops, and cardinals in your own way?

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Reject the novus odor

Tell me about Catholicism. My sister in law is Mexican and I lick the pope and her belief in spirits and demons in front of her.

Mock, not lick, lol

Daily reminder the pope is really satan

Catholicism is the original Christian Church. It's the Church that Jesus Christ himself founded. The Apostles are the first priests and bishops, and they were ordained at the Last Supper. The Church as an institution was formally founded at Pentecost when the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles and compelled them to go forth, spreading the Gospel and the news of the Risen Christ. Since then the Church's ongoing mission is to proclaim the Gospel and win souls for Christ, until he comes again in glory.

No it's not the first Christians didn't have a concept of a church, telling them to spread the holy word is not the same as putting a specific system with a rigid structure in place that can be used for other things besides converting people. The closest thing to original christians are the small groups still living in the near east, that don't proclaim the orthodox, catholic, evangelic or any other branch of christendom.

"And so I say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven; whose sins you bind will be bound in Heaven, and whose sins you loose will be loosed in Heaven."

pope is a jesuit.
the dago popes fuked it all up so we must bring in an agent of change
cucked

Did you ever consider that they were the ones decided to translate that with the word "church"

Even if that aramaic or jewish or whatever word was meant to convey the same sort of meaning it certainly doesn't bring the complex, unnecessary and often detrimental additions the catholics have made over time with it.

hebrew not jewish sorry

Yeah, I am doing my part. Just yesterday I let some black man to fuck my wife. Am I good enough?

>unnecessary

Who are you to decide what's unnecessary about the Church's institutions? They work, don't they? The Gospel has spread to the far corners of the Earth, and today there are Christians on every continent and island. The Church has thus far been a resounding success in its mission, so I'd not be so quick to call anything it does "detrimental."

>catholicism in 20-33 A. D.
Shart education

Insofar as Catholicism is the original Christianity, then yes, it was around first. What's the matter, upset that your Church is in schism with Rome?

No matter how far you, society or the Church falls, look to her.
This is the face that represents everything lovely, chaste, divine, traditional, resplendent, adorable, beautiful, and dignified about our faith.

Concecrate yourself to her, ask for her intercession, and pray her Most Holy Rosary, and all of the ugliness of the modern world can never stain you or encroach upon your spirituality.

Stop raping children.

Cathars and gnostics were the real Christians, you are the Synagogue of Satan.

>implying the Albigensian Crusade wasn't entirely justified

>orthodox
>cardinals

this.

For what? Some monk got murdered so you burn thousands of pious Christians at the stake, because they don't want to bow down before your degenerate Constantinian "Christianity?"

Did you know that "Saint" Emperor Constantine (the real founder of your religion) had his own wife boiled alive?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fausta

Jesus taught, "by their fruits ye shall know them." The fruits of the Catholic church have been nothing but pure, unadulterated evil since Emperor Constantine subverted Christianity for his own ends and the ends of the Caesars.

If you believe in Catholicism, you are literally too stupid to even have a conversation with, I'm sorry, but you know nothing about history, nothing about Jesus and nothing about God.

this.

>pious

They were dualists user, they were blaspheming and profaning the name of our Lord and Savior.

Fucking Catholics and their Mary worship what the hell is wrong with you people JESUS THE CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY THE ONLY MEDIATOR THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO GOD BUT THROUGH HIM

John 14:6
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Praying to Mary, praying to "saints." The hell is with you people and this paganism dressed in the skin of the lamb. Disgusting unholy filth. Even Jesus tells you not to worship Mary.

Luke 11:27-28
>And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
>But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Repent!

> pious?

No, "pirates" is the word you meant to use.

"I cut the throats of 400 people and I will cut yours."
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The jig is up. The world sees you for what you are.

Orth*dox

Why do you worship Mary?

I devote myself to Mary and ask for the intercession of saints for several reasons.

The Bible itself, in Paul's letters, gives us instructions on prayer, and it is revealed to us that God delights in intercessory prayer. Furthermore, all Christians who proclaim the Apostles creed believes in the concept of the "communion of Saints", the faithful both alive and dead who surround us as a "cloud of witnesses" who pray for us.

Secondly, Christians, since the earliest times, have devoted themselves to Mary. Recent advances in historical sciences has confirmed this. Mary has always held a special place in the hearts of Christians. The Earliest written devotions to Mary have been dated to within a lifetime of Jesus' ministry. Frescoes on tombs depict the Madonna. All of the primeval Churches (the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox) incorporate Marian devotion into their belief system. Marian devotion didn't even stop at the Reformation. Even Martin Luther prayed the Rosary and wrote extensively on Mariology. Christians turning their back on Mary is a very recent phenomenon, only appearing in the last few hundred years. Considering the 2000 year history of the Church, Mary-less Christianity seems to be a modern curiosity.

Finally, it can be seen that anyone who turns their back on the blessed Mother opens themselves up to satanic influence. Modernist Catholics seem to downplay Marian devotion, and modern day Protestantism is a mess. It could be a coincidence, but you are doing a very bad job of advertising your position.

So considering that Marian devotion and intecessory prayer has scriptural backing, practical backing, and most importantly, centuries and centuries of historical backing, and the only arguments against it are some ambiguous Biblical snippets that may or may not condemn it, you are going to need to find some better arguments.

Church is ekklesiam
The church is the terrestrial body of Christ evolved from the pressure of schisms and aggressions. It was necessary to develop a hierarchy, canon texts, etc, to maintain an order. Otherwise today would be a myriad of sects, and some of them would advocate for opposite things, entering in the "legendary tale of Christ" field, were you can believe what you want.

You may not like the forms, or corruption or the pedo priests. But it is the original church and the only one.

Fuck Jesuit brainwashing, Franciscans are the only Christian way.

>Worshipping Satan
No thanks Senpai, I'll stick with my bible.

>Gnostics
>Christians
Pick one and only one

>It's the Church that Jesus Christ himself founded
Oh wow, a catholic who lies about Jesus. What an incredible shock...

"ROMAN" CATHOLICISM IS A CULT

IT IS ETHNIC, PAGAN, JEWISH, SOCIALIST & FALSE RELIGION/ WORLD CONSPIRACY

I DONT WANT TO WORSHIP A FEMALE DEITY WHO GAVE BIRTH OUT HER BUTT

>Catholics post-houmously make Peter a pope
Look goys, we are the true church.

Who deserves hell more, Catholics or atheists?

"VIRGIN" MARY IS A JEWESS, NIGRESS, CONTROLLING-MOTHER

SHE'S A WHORE WHO SLEPT WITH A ROMAN SOLDIER

I THINK ALL OF CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM & ISLAM IS SEMITIC BULLSHIT

How about when the church's teachings directly conflict with the word of Christ?
Is THAT good enough for you?
Then read the book of Matthew and repent.

yes

All you're saying is that your personal interpretation of the bible contradicts the Church's longstanding teaching. So it's you who should look into why you're wrong

benedictines never separated themselves from the common people desu

ora et labora

JEWS, MUSLIMS, HINDUS, BUDDHISTS & WICCANS NEEDA GO TO HELL FIRST

OTHER FALSE RELIGIONS ARE
* MORMONISM
* JEHOVAH'S WITNESS
* SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
* CHRISTIAN SCIENCE
* UNITARIAN
& * PENTECOSTAL

You're pope is literally a Jesuit, probably very close to the black pope.

Do you not know that the Jesuits do the dirty work of the Catholic church? If you're Catholic your helping the jesuits.

ORTHODOXY IS A SIN

ANGLICANISM IS CATHOLIC LITE

BAPTISTS ARE BATSHIT INSANE

>Single holy and infallible Church
>Can't keep its story straight between its own branches, much less between it and its scripture
>Still more valid than any other branch because it itself authored that scripture

>God delights in intercessory prayer
Chapter and verse you lying heathen.
God supports me praying FOR my sick mother, not me prayer TO someone to pray FOR me.
You are LITERALLY a spiritual cuckold

Just please leave my country.

The pope will hang. The church will burn.

Nothing wrong with buddhists or hindus bro

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Direct quote from your savior and God:
>Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Repent or burn, Jesus warned you about the Catholics.

>"the gates of hell shall not prevail"
>full of pedos
>full of paganism
>killed hundreds of thousands "heretics" that read God's Word
>the current pope literally said Jesus failed at the cross, among other things

He's catholic.

Haven't been to Mass in almost 18 months, it's cucked from the parish level up here.

t. no TLM or SSPX near me

I only go to family and some public acts and the midnight mass and that because is once a year and clean all your sins. we sing less and had a few things that you don't have, confession, prays as penitence and have a few more books that the protestants didn't like and removed back then, we belive in the Saints as mesengers of God and you don't

Again, it's your personal interpretation (and your choosing to think that you can use one quote from scripture in total isolation from the organic whole) that is the problem here

no that's stupid
the latin rite was the 'new order' of it's time. everything had to be translated from greek into latin because everybody spoke latin at the time.
it's not bad that we do mass in english as long as the mass is valid.

We can agree on one point, there's no arguing with people like you, now go back to reading the Da Vinci Code and following your satanic masonist cult.
I'll be stacking some wood.

I'm interpreting it LITERALLY you nigger. Let's hear YOUR interpretation of Jesus Christ Specifically forbidding what your church forces you to do.

I never understood protestant heretics. If someone with zero knowledge of history and sociology tries to tell me what he thinks an author of a text made 1000 years ago in a culture so different from him that they could easily be from another world, wanted to say; i would just laugh at his stupidity.

What makes them think they can understand a text that has been translated dozens of times from languages none of them understand form cultures they have never heard about, its retarded.

Sola Scriptura is the rejection of basic logic and even the most basic academic standards.

This.

And don't forget to show support for the few, but great, traditional Catholic Professors.

"Father" is a form of respect, not a formal title. The formal title is "Priest." It's like how we call bishops "Your Grace," or cardinals "Your Eminence." If anything, certain Protestant sects calling their church leaders "Elders" seems like a more egregious violation of Jesus' command.

Crypto-muslim detected

Did someone say more context?
>8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
>9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
>10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

GEE, ITS ALMOST AS IF HE IS SINGLING OUT RELIGIOUS LEADERS.

This is why priests spent their life studying, so they can understand shit like this and not make the common ignorant interpretations most protestant make by their own.

You must be a kike, even Catholics aren't this delusional.

How about the Dominican Rite, worth a try if there's one near you.

You Catholics call the pope Holy Father. "Pope" literally means "Father." Cognitive Dissonance, you Catholics.

Timothy Chapter 2

>I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
>For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Asking for the inttercession of saints comes from the revelation that the saints who have passed away are concious of our actions, surrounding us as a cloud of witnesses, and continue to pray for us.
Of course, that is all they can do. They can't act as independant mediators of salvation. We can't be saved by Mary's sacrements, or St Pauls passion etc. And indeed, St Paul goes on to emphasise this point of Christ being the one mediator in his letter, in line with the Church's teachings.

And this is why I dislike arguing with modern day Protestants. Arguments just boild down to sniping at each other with Bible passages. If you justt pick and choose Bible passages and interpret them at face value, the Bible is full of contradictions.

For instance, there is a Bible passage where Jesus says to call no man father, doctor or teacher. If you interpret this as a legalistic forbidding of uttering those words, then St Paul contradicts this commandment by claiming he has become a "father" to the faitthful in his letter to the Corinthians.

Did the Bible contradict itself? No. Jesus saying to call no man father was in the context of him rebuking the pharisees. It wasn't a commandment. So St Paul was not contradicting Jesus when he wrote that.

You have to interpret the Bible as a whole. Not the individual passages.

Are all of Jesus' parables also meant to be interpreted in an autistic literal sense? Does Jesus teach that I have to run away from home for a few years and then return to my parents before they can accept me?

Good start, now maybe try looking at the whole chapter in context.

Kek'd, you're so dumb, re-read what you wrote, unlike protestant brainlets we analyze and ponder the Scriptures. Unless you're baiting, then you got me fair and square.

>refusing to give your interpretation
Gee I wonder why. Couldn't be ecause it is impossible to spin a direct command from your savior that you violate weekly?

Gee, looks like my previous comment is an answer to your response still
God wants you to pray FOR other people, not TO other people you dense pedo worshipping fuck.

Honestly, the "call no man father" thing is so extremely unimportant that it has never interested me enough to look into it seriously. If you have some kind of serious criticism of the church on actual important issues (such as those regarding faith or morals), go ahead though

Allahu akbar brother, teach them kaffir how it is

>Catholics scream you aren't supposed to take God's Word literally
>Jesus himself says he does nothing in secret

John 18:20
>Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Those who wrote the scripture were directly inspired by God. God's Word is God's Word.

Jesus often spoke in hyperbole
when he says "if your right eye offends you pluck it out" he doesn't mean it literally, for example.

That's exactly what intercessary prayer is, though

Listen to this

>Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death

Study it carefully. It asks for no divine intervention, no salvation through her own power, nothing that only God could do. Only intercession.

there's a big difference betwen God and the Saints, if you really think that care about people that die to spread Catholicism is bad or to think that they "protect" you is worship false gods you are wrong, nobody is over Christ in the Catholic Church, but as in the bible God use more people to spread the word, thats basically what Christians belive, you don't, ok

Do you interpret the parables literally too, muslim friend?

No because Jesus always tells you when and when not to. When he is going to tell a parable, he says so.

Plucked out any of your eyes recently?
Did you cut off your right hand?
What about castrating yourself?

>the words of Christ our savior are unimportant
Fucking listen to yourself you deluded fuck!
Buy a ducking dictionary you asshat, intercession you prayer is you prayer FOR another, not TO another.

2 Kings 2:23-24
Elisha Is Jeered

23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.

Nope not until this pope is gone we raid Muslims not kiss there feet...

Well I mean there much more important things that Catholics do that Protestants do not do, so why not bring up one of those things? Are you going to attack the Pope's choice of hats next?

So if I were to ask someone living to pray for me, or pray for a cause, I would be violating this commandment?

Because, after all, I am "praying" to them for their prayer.

(I do have a dictionary, and the term "prayer" in its dictionary definition, simply means "to ask", and it never implied that the person being "prayed" to had to be necessarily divine. In older english texts, the word "pray" appears more often than its synonym "ask". eg. "pray tell thee")

I've thought about it. My eyes are getting worse everyday so the Lord is probably doing it for me.

What's the problem here? You saying God can't command bears?

1 Samuel 18:25-27

>25 Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines.

>26 When the attendants told David these things, he was pleased to become the king’s son-in-law. So before the allotted time elapsed, 27 David took his men with him and went out and killed two hundred Philistines and brought back their foreskins. They counted out the full number to the king so that David might become the king’s son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage.

Catholicism is, objectively and historically, the first and largest.
>Sorry for your rural brain washing

What's wrong with this?

Ofc he can but come on, make fun of 2 guys, release 2 bears an entire population destroyed

You sure fucking suck at backing up a damn thing you say.

I live in the American south, Catholics are 2% of the population here.

It's N.O. or nothing and I chose the latter.

You should mock Mexicans for their syntactic faith.

foreskins is an unusual currency, kill 200 to get their foreskins is also weird

Some Anderson fanboy implying his nigger-loving protestant scum 'father' from bumfuck Nebraska knows the true way about scripture instead of those 2000 years of tradition, thinking, saints and doctrine from the true Chruch funded by Christ.

Don't feed the luther shill

God cursed a woman for making fun of Moses's wife, killed a man for not impregnating a woman. God is God.

No you fucking aren't, you are asking them to.
And yes, if you sat alone in a room and prayed to trump to intercede for you, you would be committing blasphemy.
This shit isn't hard, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Prayer - a solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship.

What's the deal? Catholic Church finally stopped forbidding you from reading the Bible, so they forbid dictionaries instead?

How do you keep avoiding the fact that Catholicism is not only anti iblical, it is expressly warned against throughout the New Testament, especially Matthew.

Nebraska is pure. Anderson is from Arizona.

>praying TO Mary to pray FOR you TO God