Self improvement thread

The job market is fucking retarded and I’ve been a faggot soy boy for a long while. Lived off parents but turns out they’re retarded and might be unable to support me soon. Not neet, have a bachelors, half a masters, and right wing
Help me + others man up Sup Forums

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Train for a year while talking to an ADF recruiter. Tell them you want to go to the Commando or SAS selection. Even if you don't make the cut you're still doing some legitimate man shit.

Exercise and physical training might help me?
Cheers senpai
Not sure I want to join the army but if I can’t break out of this mindset the army probably will (given I manage to get fit enough)

Well mate what is your field? Are you a STEM graduate or health science? How much student debt do you have and do you have a current job?

Whats your degree in?

Just kill yourself, that's how I got out of my funk. Now I'm 300k starting mathematician slaying 10/10s every night.

Having the same problem

I just graduated with a business degree. Have a little experience in web design and classical guitar teaching

Cannot land a fucking job for the life of me. I have filled out about 200 job applications and only gotten an offer at a shit-tier call center (which I almost regret not taking now).

The fuck is going on. The job market wasn't even this bad while I was in school.

My gf has a degree in business and marketing. Its a meme degree like most of those 'disciplines' are. You just wasted 4 years and are now in $35000+ worth of debt. She also has no full-time job.

Business

And like these nibbas say it’s low key a meme degree but I can make it if I just get strong enough and stop despairing

A friends brother is looking for accounting work for a year nowIt’s from one of the top three universities by the way in the country. Both me and that accountant

>ruins parents retirement by being a piece of shit
>blames parents

Yeah....

Literally everybody told me (even working professionals) that it was a great degree to get and they wished they had gotten one.

I mean, at some point you will stop being promoted in your company if you do not have one. But I think to really get a good job these days you have to combine the business degree with some sort of tech certificate.

>meme business degree
>meme web design experience
>meme classical guitar teacher
>wonder why he can't get a job

What the fuck do you expect? None of this shit is going to help you in the real world.

Hmm ok. Well your certainly going to face some challenges. I would say stay the flip away from uni for a while. Can you apply for some apprenticeships or something similar around your area? Do you have any manual labor experience?

Read that twatter exchange gave me a headache.

I studied Marketing/Management now in a job making 65k 3 years out of Uni. This is in Adelaide mind you - most people here had to move interstate

Why?

Web Design and music teaching is fine. Web development is only growing atm

I think it’s like trying to get a job with no degree lol
A business degree kicks in later down the line

But yeah man I’m pretty despondent rn and just coming off being a bit of a weak cunt
I have a prestigious degree but what the fuck man I need help building up some fight in me, don’t want me and my family to be homeless lol (parents are being a bit irresponsible career wise and we have a mortgage)

Places get a lot of applications, the only time you're judged based mostly on paper is if you're a diversity hire, which I'm guessing you're not. Follow-up.

It may sound like a meme but you should be following up applications and interviews, by phone at least if not in person. Twice a week for a dumb job, less for one with more scrutiny. Try to talk to the same person you dropped with (get their name), until they interview, then follow up with that person when possible.

All it takes is a short phone conversation.

>we
Lmao just kill yourself, finally make your parents proud

No I never thought I needed to since my parents were kind of educated and well off
Thought I could one day just get a job

Only now do I realise that not only is it hard to get in through my degree but my parents are being a bit silly so I’m running out of time too.

Regret not working part time. But should I just keep applying everywhere until I get in?
How can I reform my mind to strive?

Mate, the reality is you were sold a very false dream. Business, communications and all that shit simply exists to give academics jobs for life and to make sure you graduate with crippling amounts of debt.

University/college is practically meaningless these days. In your case I would recommend the military or if possible a trade immediately.

Your options are very few at this stage. Also, how old are you?

I’ve considered it lol

Also not me my name isn’t in it
Just fucking boomer cunts ruining our economy and my parents not being too wise in the past

>It may sound like a meme but you should be following up applications and interviews, by phone at least if not in person. Twice a week for a dumb job, less for one with more scrutiny. Try to talk to the same person you dropped with (get their name), until they interview, then follow up with that person when possible.


I have not been doing this, but I think I am going to.

When you follow up, do you just call and say "Hi, this is user. I had applied to "__" position a few days ago and I am just following up to see if you have reviewed my resume"?

Nice man. Thanks you give me some hope
I’ve got management accounting and finance under me in the degree
How did you do it and how did you get out of the negativity

I am not trying to be a prick mate, but you sound like a real soft cock. You have never lived out of home?
Are you a bit faggy looking? Do you have lots of female friends and shit?

>Your options are very few at this stage. Also, how old are you?

25. If anything, I am probably just going to get a technical certificate in tech.

t. butthurt aussie with no degree

No and am I faggy looking? I don’t know lol
I’ve never really been fit
My closest friends are male but I don’t socialise much and I’ve made too many female friends in uni to offset this

I’m no SJW cuckold but I guess I’ve been a mixed of spoilt and buying into the kindness and softness meme and idk whatever else. My fault but I have to fix it

Well it was a Tech startup and I started in a shitty sales job and got lucky that it was progressing so fast I got offered a state managers job. DESU its like 80% Luck 20% preparation.
I now get like 40 applications per job posted. Much more than other states.

Of course, since contacts and blowjobs is what makes the world turn

That would be the best option at the moment mate. Simply because you will have a practical skill that is in highish demand. Plus I expect the trade unions are similar there as they are here and you will have good pay rates and benefits.

Oh nice. I can’t get into sales with my degree but I want to, don’t have sales exp but I can pitch some shit I did in student associations that way and try meme myself into sales perhaps.

I guess I’ll have to find a shitty entry job and work up. Idk what I should meme myself into since I’ve done finance and mgmt
Cheers for the advice

>stop masturbating
>work out every day
>stop looking for jobs on the internet, go outside and actively search
>stop playing video games
>stop eating sweets
>stop hanging out with friends that don't support your new lifestyle
>make new friends that will help you improve yourself

this is all the self help you need now man the fuck up and stop being a fuccboi asking for advise on an anime imageboard

>tfw i have not enough will power to start lifting and doing excersise

Thanks man
How does one apply for jobs irl I never got this meme and I’m too cuckboy to go in unchartered desu
I have to become stronger mentally

And yeah animu imageboard tells it straight unlike media and 99% of the people in this shithole country in real life

It’s more just despair and being a shit cunt

>make new friends
Heh, about that....

Think of anything that can earn you money, help you earn money in the future or help you earn more money in the future and start doing it all. No secret behind it, the key is just to start doing something.

>"Hi, this is user. I had applied to "__" position a few days ago and I am just following up to see if you have reviewed my resume"?

Don't make them have to tell you that they didn't look at your application; expect they didn't, and give them a reason to.

Don't put them in a position of having to reject you, which hurts your chances and your feelings. Just say this is user, I applied for whatever, and I wanted to follow up. People know what follow up means, you don't have to specify.

Until you get a yes they'll just say thanks for calling, we don't have anything right now. So just tell them thanks and have a great day and call em again in a few days. Again make sure you're talking to the same person. Less than 1 min phone call minus hold time.

Keep a log that goes (name of place) (date) (person you talked to) (do they have your resume? application? Y/N) and update with a new date every time you talk to them, and a couple words if you think something is noteworthy like that you got "positive reaction from Sara." Again shouldn't take up your time.

I dunno what sort of places you're applying to but I hope you know not to expect people to take your resume without also having a formal application. Bring a stapler, staple them together.

I know it's hard. Lemme know if there's anything else I can help you with.

get the fuck back to /soc/ or /r9k/ where you belong faggot

I need the hard facts mane
Only you lot have the real deal

Thanks man, really appreciate it. not the user you responded to but how would you go about approaching a company in person or by call to apply for a job
I only really know to apply online but the market is too retarded for this and I’m not top top tier in this country

I am mostly just filling out online applications.

Should I call to do a follow up even if I am just sending in online applications?

Thanks for the advice too, I appreciate it.

At last your parents didn't go full retard and waited for you to finish your degree, unlike your humble correspondent.

wow lucky you being able to drop the resume in. here, you do an online application, followed by online testing, then a video interview, then a real life interview, THEN you get the job

even for the lowest tier jobs

They provided for me until I got a degree which is great but I never prepared for the real life so there’s a small catch
I should have used the time to toughen up but I just spent time wasting away kind of and getting more red pilled.
And now they’re going full retarded lole and I’ll have just a few months to get out of the despair I’ve been in for the last year in fear
After that they won’t have enough money to feed me and support my education

Is it possible to skip this meme anons
Every finance job is like this
I just want a very small business or something lole like I don’t have the money quite frankly to go to a trillion assessment centres

But I’m aware H&M and stores have this. Not sure how widespread it is.

Do I have to toughen myself up enough to just sit through all this assessment crap

was in the same type of deal along time ago
> workout
>lift if you can find a good gym or cheap gym
> start eating clean as fuck
> spend more time outdoors
> apply and take ANY JOB... money over muh feelz take anything even if it well under your skill set

Not true in all cases,
I studied Construction management.
Got a cadetship applied in person.
Finished uni with a Job
now 5 years out making over 100k
Living in HK still working for same company will move back to Australia soon with a fat stack of cash that ive been paying 15% tax on.

Become a police men?

Police is only for women in Australia 2017
They shadow ban men

To an extent the military is similar

Sweet my dude

Usually I work waiting tables/bartending, I used to work minimum wage mostly in food service and other menial work. So for my upcoming and previous advice just know that's how it's colored, filter for relevance.

>how would you go about approaching a company in person or by call to apply for a job

in person or online. gotta fill out an app. Unless there's some way to apply by phone call but they'll prob just tell you to come in and fill out an application.

as for applying in person. dress blended in but nice. make the effort to smile. I know this is softball stuff but people are empathetic, if you put out a positive outlook they'll work hard to please you back. so be nicer than the other awkward white nerds that come in.

find a not busy employee (stand in a (hopefully short) line if you need to), smile say how's it going, may I apply for work? they'll give you an application, say thank you, fill it out, find an employee again, ask them is there a MANAGER I can give this to, usually they will point one out or get one for you unless it's really busy (try not to be there at busy times). When you get a mgr, same routine, smile, but introduce yourself this time Hi I'm David I was applying for something job here. they'll give a cursory glance at your app might ask you a question or two. get them to indicate if there's a spot for you. Get their name, write it down, in front of them if you have your stuff. Or they might just sit you down and interview you there.

Good details? I can expound on some if you like.

>Should I call to do a follow up even if I am just sending in online applications?

Especially so, in my opinion. places get more online apps than physical because they're easier to get to cuz you don't even have to be there. show up and show the you're not a scraggly bum who wrote bullshit and they call him up and have to waste time talking to him. Fuck that. They won't call you, you call them.

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make them look at your app, then make them interview you and make a good impression. Again I dunno what sort of work you fellas are looking for but even the worst markets need a warm body who's not going to jack off and steal from them and leave in 2 weeks. even if you're an awkward dork, put forth an awkward effort and they'll know you're an earnest warm body who's not going to jack off and steal from them.

tl;dr don't try to get hired just firing and forgetting online applications. at least call people and make them call you in and talk to you.

It's niggers or niggas you absolute pussy.
Fuck man, just grow the fuck up and apply for a bunch of jobs.
Fuck, just do some entry level shit, or move out of the city and get a job in a small town and rent a cheap place.
Why do you feel like you have to stay in a city?
Don't be such a baby.

I wanna get out of this meme country one day to Asia or something and good work experience is in the city
But like yeah to start with I might have to go to the country for a while
Cheers senpai
I need to harden up somehow before anything

Life lacks inherent meaning.
Define yourself by the activities and relationships you pretend to enjoy.
Once you inevitably get tired of that, kys.
Burma shave.

Cheers man, that makes sense.
Sure any details are appreciated

Some cunt irl told me I’ll annoy them from showing up but yeah you make a lot more sense Sup Forums is better than irl cunts in this meme country

We'll don't assume you can just get a dream job in your field.
I have a degree and I fucking milked cows.
I painted roofs
I painted cars
I sold cars
I sold phones
I slaved in a callcentre
Then, and only then did I finally get a finance job.
But you know what? It fucking sucked.
Being a bitch in a company full of fags and diversity hires sucked. So I quit and made my own work writing shit for people.
Don't expect the fucking world to give you anything - that's the shitty millennial attitude that people have cos of your shitty parents encouraging awards just for participation.
Look how that sort of upbringing has made you feel!

If I was across the ditch, I'd ask if you wanna meet up and have a fistfight. Just so you can learn to toughen up.

>Some cunt irl told me I’ll annoy them from showing up but yeah you make a lot more sense

I can't say for sure you won't. But people want to hire you. They need employees. You're making their job easier by showing up and pointing them in the right direction, at your normal functioning eager to work ass.

Perhaps especially negative people having a bad day won't be happy to see you. But that will be the exception for you. Most people try to be well-mannered and polite and will at least treat you respectfully as they reject you.

Good news is once you've spoken to a manager with your application (even if it wasn't a full on interview), you don't have to show up in person again, just call on the phone until they ask you to. Unless you just want to show up in person to follow up every time. Can't hurt, but I know I hated doing it.

Fuck man that’s real shit and I need to digest this slowly because the millennial conditioning is deep inside me and I want it out
This is the real talk I can never get from irl fucks especially my parents
I guess I’ll have to find -some- thing to do somewhere
And work my way up until I get out of this meme country
Thanks user

True, appreciate it that’s I think the right perspective to take. The negative cunts probably wouldn’t care much anyway even if I did it their way

If there’s any pointers you could give to a soft cunt that’s be neat
I must toughen up or I’ll end up fuckint homeless or in a rope and it won’t even be a meme

join military,police, homeland intelligence service .

I live in my car. Technically I'm homeless. But I've been doing it for 3 years. I like it because I don't have to work a lot and there's no risk of being unable to pay my rent on time.

if you:
>don't have a job
>aren't @ uni
>aren't training in some sort of fashion related to employment

then you very much ARE a neet. look up the defintion of shit before using it incorrectly

Pointers?
Right.

Write a list of shit you wanna do in the next 1, 5, 10 years.
I know you said a job was important, but why? Is it the money? Status? Purpose? Bitches?
Think of shit you can do that others might want. Are you fit? Can you write? Draw? Make music?
Start doing a bit of something you are both decent at and enjoy each day, at the same time, apply for a new job each day.
Something entry level.
Business analyst, customer service etc etc.
Work out a little each day, and make sure you go to bed the same time, without lying in bed phoneposting etc.
Put that shit on the opposite side of your room, with a loud alarm for tomorrow, set early.
Eat breakfast, and go for a jog or a walk.

Look at smaller towns nearby and see what sorts of jobs are available there. Like surely you guys have a website where you search job types and can filter areas in Aussie.

Drop physical cvs off to people, or call up hr (LinkedIn is useful too) and talk to them about upcoming positions etc.

There's heaps you can do to find a job.
Problem is this attitude that you need the right one.

Limit yourself to a small amount of internet shit every day too. Honestly, meet up with mates in person. Ask them if they know of roles coming up.
Don't be too proud to get a shitty job.

Don't think you need to change your whole life straight away, just do a bit every day and make sure you do some push ups, sit ups and pull ups at least every two days to feel stronger.

What the fuck is with the soyboy and the open mouth surprise look in pictures? Can any psychologist here explain this?

Oh wow. How do you deal with showering etc plus where do you stay at night
I might have to consider the possibility if shit gets worse for my parents faster than I can get a job

>stop asking for advice
>gives him advice, proving the benefit of asking for advice
Faggot

>University/college is practically meaningless these days. In your case I would recommend the military or if possible a trade immediately.

This.

There's very little purpose to going to college anymore.

If you want to actually retire eventually you'd be better off getting into a trade.

You should give up on doing things that feel as though they're meaningful and seek just to get a paycheck to help get by day to day. Your free time is where you can be you and you'll never be able to engage in meaningful pursuits if you don't have the money for it.

Thank you brother I very much appreciate this
I’ll digest it more, take it to heart and work on myself
I want to get out of this meme country firstly and one day do something great with my life in the distant future. I’ll think about all the questions but all my life I can remember I just wanted to be great, to push the boundaries of humanity. I’ll have to start small and shake off the millennial crap and stop being a soft shit cunt ASAP and you and others are helping me a lot today so thanks man

To shower all you really need is a bit of water and some cleaning agent. baking soda or soap, whatever. Lock yourself in a bathroom, shower in the sink. I have a gym membership, I shower there.

at night I sleep at Wal-mart, or other big stores that don't mind overnight parking. But wal-mart is a safe bet. secure, well-lit, they welcome overnight campers.

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I do need a job to survive in the short term, do I have to figure out what else I want for a job?
As I said before I’m okay for a month or two and I have savings for another couple but my parents are fuckint their careers up man
I haven’t had to worry about money for a while because of them but I got spoilt in my mind and softened by them keep saying they can support me. But it’s dawned on me they’re heading towards the end of their career and they know it lol
For a while they probably won’t have much money to help me

Cheers senpai, that’s interesting. Wonder if any Australian places don’t mind campers

off by one

Dayum

>What the fuck do you expect?

Blaming boomers won’t do me any good but man those cunts deserve hell

Checked btw

It's not that simple. Boomers are pawns just like you and me in the big game. They were lucky, you weren't. Don't be envious, focus on the problems in the system itself which is subjugating all of us. Look to that enemy.

He can't figure out how to get work. And you want him to take on the global jew right now?

I cant think on anything, im a brainlet.

I actually don't think the system (capitalism, etc) could ever work. Boomers were simply the "peak" of the system. So basically, one generation of people got lucky. You can't just reverse it or whatever. I just don't think the concept of modern society works at all.

Just take a single thing like age. Modern medicine means people live for a long time but they aren't actually capable of working. They just "retire". These people are a burden that are impossible to carry.

The unabomber was right. Modern society will just collapse on itself. I wouldn't be surprised if we aren't even the first society to have reached this level of advancement and then just collapsed.

I want his mindset uncucked of false enemies. He speaks death of an entire generation of his fellow human beings, for the crime of being fortunate.

never understood this "boomers were lucky" shit.
The internet has made more millionaires than in any point in history.
Seriously, if you're not earning 6 figures at 25 you're by definition a nigger.

Meant to look like happy surprise.
Non threatening and emulates the expression vapid women make in selfies where they are meant to be showing that they are wowed and amused by whatever it is they are completely blocking the view of.

You probably struggle with maths though...

I can’t take on the boomer lole I have to fix myself first like Said

But like as with boomers I do hate them since they could have stopped the ZOG but they didn’t
And they made the conscious decision to sell out entire nations and squander wealth while turning a blind eye to the ZOG

>tfw getting a conservation degree
anyone here able to tell me how the environment market is going?

This

It's really heating up!

at their core they are depressed because they have not reached enlightenment and are slaves to hedonism, you can tell by the fact they have dead eyes

>but turns out they’re retarded
Don't talk shit about your parents online, you ungrateful whoreson.

>I just don't think the concept of modern society works at all.

In what sense? Because even the poorest of us (in developed lands) live pretty well. It's impossible to go hungry in some parts of the world. Medicine? I dunno, that seems surmountable. That's just money. Stuff costs more than it needs to. Even if it didn't, well, then I guess you just die. But that doesn't mean society doesn't work.

If I give you $100 and years later some kid says where's my $100, is that "turning a blind eye," or were you simply not informed that you taking $100 necessarily means someone else won't?

Gotta hit the gym and get big brah. Drink a gallon of milk a day for 6 months and lift big then when summer comes stop eating food, so you can show off your muscles and shit.

>live pretty well

I don't see this unless you define living well the way you did (not starving). I see extremely high rates of mental illness, suicide, etc. I see people still living at home simply because they can't afford to move out. I see people working in mindnumbingly boring and shit jobs.

I don't see what you are seeing.

Kinda why we built computers to do it for us... I focused on learning sales.

>Mental illness
stop doing drugs, eating shit food. Go to the gym.
>can't afford to move out
>mind numbing jobs
Maybe you should cultivate a skillset that's valued highly by employers if you're too pussy to start a business.

I am a software engineer....