How do I lead a good Christian life?
I'm trying anons, but it's difficult, and it seems like when I need god the most he abandons me. I try to keep my ignorance and arrogance in check but sometimes I have doubts and it's hard to come to grips with. I'm in the middle of a spiritual war and I'm constantly losing. How do I receive grace?
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Honor all people, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the king. 1 Peter 2:17
>the magic man abandoned me
Geez OP now you’re talking like the magic man in the sky actually exists
Gods don't exist and you know it.
stop being a degenerate
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Build, nurture, and defend the Kingdom of God on Earth.
Remember Job, and how he suffered. For not losing his faith he was rewarded. Be like Job user, be like Job.
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Define abandon.
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As an agnostic I do not really know if a god does not exist or if he does however if he does so he likely does not focus on everybody and only directly helps a few key individuals if at all.
God (as I said before if he exists) would likely not have given you the ability to sin if he was going to force you to not use it and he likely would simply just expect the best for you and if you fail it is a shame but you are likely one individual in the many.
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>How do I receive grace?
Are you a Christian? And if so, how did you become a Christian?
Why make up your own opinions about a God you do not believe exists, and then pretend the real God follows your imagination?
By the way, the latin for "agnostic" is "ignoramus". Hardly something to boast about.
>How do I receive grace?
Hear God's word and receive his sacraments.
Try reading Luther's Small Catechism and Large Catechism for more details.
Get married. Fuck your wife. Problem solved.
0 Bible results for “sacraments.”
First step is...Stop watching porn!
>get mercilessly tortured by your creator because he wants to prove a point to Satan
Semitic mythology is not very comforting desu
If only the sinless can receive God's grace, then none can receive God's grace.
If God's grace were merited, it would no longer be grace, now, would it.
No, but it's real world truth. Don't worry about Job. Worry about you.
It's all in that book you call a bible, if your a believer then do as Jesus did.
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Sex without the intention of procreating is a sin, regardless if married or not.
[Bible citation?]
The word sacrament doesn't need to appear. The bible contains Christ's establishing of the sacraments: Baptism and The Last Supper.
Did I say to fuck her without the intention of procreating?
haha! Engrish. What's up with all these Christianity hating tools? I mean religion aside, the core values are great and have established the greatest civilization ever on this planet and these monkeys want to destroy it.
0 results for "sacraments".
They're just your traditions. That's all. Nothing sacred about men's traditions, at all.
they hate God, and cannot vent on him, so they vent on his adopted children
>Baptism and The Last Supper.
Nothing sacred about baptism.
Nothing sacred about communion.
Well, it's a pretty rational way of thinking about it. If the God of the Christian bible exists and truly loves his children, he wouldn't play this "faith or eternal hell" game with the people he created, especially if he's already omniscient. Making an impossible to reach standard and punishing those who don't reach it, and leaving the only loophole to get by isn't by being honest to yourself and being a good person, but to believe something unbelievable. That would be kind of fucked up.
And if he is like that, I don't see that as a God worth worshiping anyhow.
Here's a couple of things from a fellow struggling christian.
I say "struggling" not because I struggle in faith, but because life itself is a struggle.
1. Recognize that there is a a difference between MAN'S problems, and GOD'S problems.
2. Realize that the vast majority of MAN'S problems, are due to MAN. GOD didn't give you free will so you can solely rely on him to save your ass. Remember, even when times are hard, it could always be worse.
3. GOD has his own problems to deal with, but through your faith and lifestyle, you can help him with His issues, and yours. (I can hear you idiot atheists laughing already)
4. Control your masturbation. I don't mean once a day. I mean once a week. Pornography is a huge issue that gets's swept aside by the morally inept. (Atheists)
5. Remember that you are not alone and that even talking to some Christian user will help you out.
Why is that?
If you are in a marriage arent you already in one union? You are one?
Why should you not?
Arent we made for pleasure?
I am not speaking about unlimited sinful behavior, if it can be defined.
I am speaking husband and wife having sex, living together, having a family, living and protecting eachother until death.
Imagining your own God is "rational"?
How so?
St. Mark 12:29-34, Isaiah 45:5-7, Deuteronomy 32:39 and 6:4-8. Master those passages and you can understand everything else fine. Remember the words of the pic related and you'll do fine.
Also, remember to sage anti-Christian threads and comments that are designed to divide us.
>I don't see that as a God worth worshiping anyhow
Now you see why making up your own God is so harmful to you. You made up a God not worshiping.
The God you made up has nothing in common with God.
>Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Don't ignore the Bible's command to administer the sacraments.
Sign of outward obedience.
Remembrance of Jesus' sacrifice for us.
Where is the "sacrament"?
>Don't ignore the Bible's command to administer the sacraments.
If the bible does not contain the word "sacraments", how is it that you admonish me to keep the bible's commands to administer the "sacraments"?
Jesus told you to do them. Why are you blowing off Jesus' command?
See, the problem is that you think the "sacraments" of your church save you.
They do not.
You are as lost as lost can be.
So now they're commands?
Which of Jesus' commands have you perfectly kept?
>it seems like when I need god the most he abandons me
Isn't the point of this faith trusting that God knows better than you do when you "need him the most" and when you just had a bad day?
Also, who said I did not do either?
And now that they are "commands", can we drop the silly "sacraments" label?
>See, the problem is that you think the "sacraments" of your church save you.
[citation needed]
I already said that he should listen to God's Word and receive the sacraments. I did not say that sacraments are efficacious ex opere operato
Seven days in a week, seven cardinal virtues (four cardinal, three cardinal). Practice one a day to its fullest.
Also accept that you probably need someone you trust a great deal to struggle with you either a priest, friend or partner. "Whenever two or more gather in my name, I am also there."
>receive the sacraments
There are no sacraments.
How then will they be "received"?
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>How do I lead a good Christian life?
Cut your nuts off and take estrogen supplements. It's a lot easier to be a Christian when you think like a woman.
Why are you Christian rather than any other religion lads? I've recently tried to rediscover faith, but whilst I'm now convinced of the existence of a higher power, I still have no reason to believe it's the Christian God. If anything, I'm leaning most towards Hinduism at the moment
Can you practice righteousness and thus please God?
>So now they're commands?
The Calvinists would, I figured I'd meet you half way there.
Quite possibly true, but would not recommend it.
>denying the existence of sacraments
Study more about Jesus in the gospels. Hinduism is 330,000,000 demons all seeking your destruction.
I'm not fool enough to bandy words with a papist without pinning down their definitions.
Words to papists do not mean things. Only tradition.
Why does the "higher power" have to be anthropomorphized?
Organized religion itself might be the problem. Instead of believing someONE is at work, why not just believe that someTHING is happening that is beyond your understanding at present? I stick with calling it "energy" because technically, I'm not wrong.
>women
>good Christians
Women are so shit tier that the apostle Paul said that they could be redeemed by having children. Talk about lowering the bar
Not in the bible. Never saw one. Looking at the word "sacrament", it's entirely a manmade word that seeks to deify magic rites and rituals.
>with a papist
>told people to read Luther's Small and Large Catechisms
The being who made us knows us better than we know ourselves; otherwise, how did he make us?
In what ways have we surpassed the creator of the universe?
I have a huge amount of respect for Jesus from an ethical perspective, and try to live my life in the way he teaches, I just have more difficulty accepting the idea of a personal God
If women did not have children, and men could have children without women, women would be gone. Disappeared. Extinct.
That's what he meant.
>Why does the "higher power" have to be anthropomorphized?
He made us in his image.
Martin Luther was a Catholic friar, a papist through and through.
He taught the Law of Moses. If you want to live your life by the Law of Moses, throw yourself into Judaism and try to keep all of the commandments.
When he was excommunicated they revoked his membership.
According to....who exactly? Someone else that was ALSO made in his image? How do you know that you're not making HIM into YOUR image instead?
>Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Also you must understand the following.
>I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[a] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
Righteousness is Justice and one of the four cardinal virtues. Youre supposed to be righteous.
From my very limited understanding of eastern religion, I don't think a non-anthropomorthic God is in conflict with Hinduism or Buddhism at all. They have some anthropomorphic deities, but the highest power is more like the energy you described. I might be wrong about that, but it's how I understood it
Sacrament: a Christian rite (such as baptism or the Eucharist) that is believed to have been ordained by Christ and that is held to be a means of divine grace or to be a sign or symbol of a spiritual reality.
>a means of divine grace
You are working to gain God's grace, thoroughly not understanding the word "grace" in the process, nor the disgust with which God holds the traditions of men.
What the fuck is the point of this shitty ass life?
To realize that you will die?
That reformed his mind? Changed his thoughts? Erased his upbringing?
Then how did he write On The Jews and Their Lies?, if he no longer thought as a papist?
>According to....who exactly?
Genesis 1:27
According to God, as told to mankind through his servants, his prophets, and his son.
Pick up that cross, bitch nigga
Are you righteous? As righteous as the father in heaven?
Yes, and then to prepare for the afterlife by choosing which eternal destination you prefer; heaven, or hellfire.
>he abandons me
Straight blasphemy
You abandon God not the other way around idiot
Addendum: even Christ asked why his father had forsaken him when he was dying in agony
>The sacraments are a human work
Do you even Augsburg Confession?
Article XIII: Of the Use of the Sacraments.
1] Of the Use of the Sacraments they teach that the Sacraments were ordained, not only to be marks of profession among men, but rather to be signs and testimonies of the will of God 2] toward us, instituted to awaken and confirm faith in those who use them. Wherefore we must so use the Sacraments that faith be added to believe the promises which are offered and set forth through the Sacraments.
3] They therefore condemn those who teach that the Sacraments justify by the outward act, and who do not teach that, in the use of the Sacraments, faith which believes that sins are forgiven, is required.
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Everyone has their own interpretation of who God is. It's only rational for atheists to also have an opinion too according to what they understand from texts.
That's just how I interpret it, since I have no emotional investment and feel like I can read it objectively (though I'm sure you wouldn't agree).
I know you have some sort of "relationship" with your God that makes everything make sense, when in my opinion, it doesn't. Just keep in mind that there are religious people who's interpretations of God are more similar towards mine than yours, and vice versa.
If my idea isn't the way you picture it, then then neither of us are at fault. No one's interpretation is gonna be 100% accurate, that's why there's so many different Christian sects.
By the way, what part of what I said about your God do you find inaccurate?
...as told through
>humans that serve
>humans that preach
>his son, a human
Not looking good so far, is it?
You don't
Jesus ain't real nigga
Not when he was dying of agony.
When he became sin, took our sins onto himself, and lost the indwelling Holy Spirit as the Father turned his back.
Sin and God do not co-exist.
Checkmate, Christians.
how can one even have knowledge of this, growing up in todays world with the new generation being more blue-pilled than ever, and the only importance is who have the newest iphone?
Why would any papist proclamation impress me in the slightest?
The two aren't mutually exclusive
Dying in agony and becoming human sin incarnate, that is
God is God.
You can have whatever opinion of me that you'd like, but I'm still me.
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>If the God of the Christian bible exists and truly loves his children, he wouldn't play this "faith or eternal hell" game with the people he created, especially if he's already omniscient. Making an impossible to reach standard and punishing those who don't reach it, and leaving the only loophole to get by isn't by being honest to yourself and being a good person, but to believe something unbelievable. That would be kind of fucked up.
God doesn't have to play by any kind of rules or sense of fair play. He gets to do whatever he chooses and is always right no matter what. It might suck from our perspective but our judgement is not authoritative.