Honestly, what's the fucking point of having discourse with the right-wing if they cannot fucking listen to your arguments or even just converse with you without painting you as some sort of charicature of the left, even when you dont identify with the left?
It is just futile at this point to talk to the fucking nazis and other radicals on this site, they are just ignorant and completely emotionally-driven, there's no hope for unity among people, we just have to ignore the enemies of liberty and justice and hope that they die off somehow.
>"What's the point in having discourse with the right-wing if all they do is make charicatures of the left?" >"It's just futile at this point to talk to the nazis"
Come on, you're not even trying to hide your hypocrisy
Leo Gomez
It's an invader, dont let it see you snap, otherwise CNN is gonna have more "dirt" on us
Landon Anderson
I'm not even mad, just finding it funny at how hypocritical they are
Angel Nguyen
>otherwise CNN is gonna have more "dirt" on us this is exactly what I'm talking about.
Jose Evans
post moar faget
Cameron Richardson
i know what you're talking about the second you say anything they remotely disagree with they say "fuckinn librul cuck cnn shill fuck you libs" it's really annoying. its just as bad as people on the left calling anyone they disagree with nazis
Justin Martin
>you’re an evil Nazi bigot! >why? >NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU! >*flounces away*
Leftists don’t argue in good faith, and even if they did, leftist ideology is ruinous and self-destructive and therefore abhorrent to any sane, rational individuals.
Don’t get mad at me if I don’t want to “find common ground” on how to tear down Western civilization.
Levi Bell
I get the whole of what you guys are saying, but you have to realize that it's pretty much animosity on both sides. Both the left and the right like to look at the worst of the worst and compare everyone on the other side to the worst. It's pretty much common politics at this point, and I agree, It's pretty retarded. It isn't really going to stop though, because people tend to hate those who oppose them
Nathan Cooper
>le enlightened le centrist le two sides of le same le coin You deserve to be mocked for being such a faggot.
Hudson Wright
Disagreeing is not the same as not listening. You don't want conversation, you demand capitulation and you can suck it out of my cock.
Levi Jackson
>Don’t get mad at me if I don’t want to “find common ground” on how to tear down Western civilization. Retard.
Ryan Gomez
Reminder: Pic Related
Ignore thread move along.
Nathan Reyes
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I hope this can help you out op.
Dylan Wood
You could just potentially make bitcoin shitposting on twitter
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Post this template and thread list everywhere you can
Luke Powell
Wrong. The Right is diverse and tolerant in terms of ideology. The Left is the opposite.
If you were to genuinely advocate for a free and open discussion from the Left, you’d find yourself persona non grata in the majority of leftist circles. This is not true for the Right.
Christian Scott
It was little bit better in the past, but after the /r/thedrump emigration it was over with Sup Forums
Jaxson Gomez
Do you dispute that the ultimate goal of modern leftism is the destruction of Western civilization?
Because that’s a discussion I’d gladly have with you, if you have the balls for it.
Xavier Cook
you got me i am a le centrist xdDD
Bentley Perry
he's right, you useless sack of shit
Noah Morales
>Do you dispute that the ultimate goal of modern leftism is the destruction of Western civilization? Did you read my post you fucking moron? I said that I am not a leftist.
Nathaniel Ward
If we are talking about the leading ideology of Sup Forums, which is white nationalism, you are going to have a very hard time discussing these topics without being insulted one way or another.
This comes down to the fundamental structure of the ideology, it demands the image of a world that is hostile to them.
Caleb Collins
I like to think that the Right is a lot better at calling out bullshit on the Left, because they rightfully deserve it. I also think that the Left has some pretty shitty points when they call out the Right on certain things, but also have some genuine concerns. I don't like the Left, I'm much more Conservative than I am anything else, but I have to say that I like to try and understand where people come from, despite what they may think. I think people should be properly criticized for doing stupid shit, and I have to say that there is a pretty decent amount of animosity on both sides, more so on the Left than on the Right, and I think this is because we have a lot more empirical evidence to support us than the Left.
Dylan Lewis
>nazis
Don't use slurs maybe?
Daniel Ward
why have you come to this humble anime image board?
Parker Bennett
By whose definition?
Angel Adams
The purpose of this is to weed out weak soyboys that can't handle being bombarded by constant insults. Sup Forums is a hurt space, you will always be constantly attacked for your opinion regardless of what it is. This is for your own good, it makes you emotionally stronger
Brody Thompson
>we just have to ignore the enemies of liberty and justice and hope that they die off somehow why are you wishing for shitskins to die user?
you can't have first world values with third world people.
Samuel Morris
There's no more discourse or debate, dummy. You want to flood our countries with 3rd world rapists and make whites minorities, and we want to prevent that. There's no debate we can have that will make us agree with you in any way shape or form
Brayden Wood
>By whose definition? I am a liberal, not a socialist, anarchist, marxist or communist - which the left is composed of.
Henry White
>they cannot fucking listen to your arguments or even just converse with you without painting you as some sort of charicature of the left, even when you dont identify with the left?
are u not proving my point?
Mason Price
everything isn't so black and white, dummy it's not like everyone that holds different beliefs is the polar opposite of you
Grayson Parker
Is this satire?
Cameron Wood
Why? Because having opinions different from the borg on this board is satire? Fuck off.
Nicholas Lewis
Debate is over. You are the enemy. There's only war now.
Nicholas Evans
>having discourse with the right-wing if they cannot fucking listen to your arguments or even just converse with you without painting you as some sort of charicature of the left, even when you dont identify with the left? So you're saying you shouldn't converse with people of opposing viewpoints because they mistakenly identify you on the left?
Eli Williams
The secret is to point out that they've been lied to. Bush was seen as the Messiah just like Trump is, right up until the economy collapsed and Iraq went into the shitter, then all of those same people who loved him decided that they never liked that government-expandin', deficit-pushin', war-hawkin' RINO anyways and that all of his failures could be blamed on those things.
And here we are again. When times get tough, his supporters won't be able to delude themselves for long.
Christian Gonzalez
No, because they are hostile to the point of blindness and basically derail all progress of a debate or argument.
Grayson Myers
There is no debate. It's either us or you.
Matthew Allen
get to killin then
Adrian Roberts
There's a time and place for everything.
John Baker
damn you're edgy, huh?
Gavin Torres
>I am so much more intelligent than you are He said, based on nothing, amid plebbit spacing and namecalling.
Joshua Williams
You cant, the right are incapable of compromise. That is why the left try to legislate the right.Both sides suck.
Accept anarchy, embrace kek.
Camden Jenkins
I frequently align with lefty conclusions but honestly I kinda hate how many of the most vocal leftists can't form a simple logical argument. And then I try to explain you shouldn't expect to persuade someone by calling them a nazi, but then I just get told to check my privilege
although I frequently disagree with right-wing conclusions I think they generally have some common sense behind what they're saying. I think they're more likely to struggle when a scientific answer is contrary to what's intuitive, but if you can explain it they often try to listen unless they're one of those BUT MUH BIBLE types
I'm pretty insulated but I have to hope that most people are generally intelligent, just quiet, and I try to be honest with regular individuals about my opinions and give a listen to what they have to say. I think if we all engage in honest conversation we all benefit.
Adam White
>namecalling. I am describing the ideologies I see being supported, not making hyperbolic insinuations.
Christian Gray
What's a liberal?
Luke Cook
Human rights, technological development, mixed economy, public utility, basically the epitome of modernism.
Adrian Watson
Blow it out your ass.
Dominic Kelly
>Human rights Based on popular consensus, and not on empirical evidence. For a guy who believes in technical progress and the benefits of the public, that's pretty retarded desu
Aiden Martinez
I have to be willing to compromise with the idea of some stagnation, I am not an all-out progressive.
Easton Bell
Clicked on ' politically incorrect' board Suprised that it is politically incorrect...
Xavier Young
the pre-2014 internet right wing was pretty much all blogs and forums for holding long form discussions. We adopted memes and shitposting because all our arguments were ignored or caricatured by our enemies.
Oliver Butler
Never said that stagnation is a bad thing, but you have to realize that nobody is entitled to anything, including security, freedom and (((equality))), which I despise and that I would honestly replace with circumstantial equity. And because nobody is entitled to anything they don't work, fight or die for, this includes any values not directly linked to maintaining a stable and homogeneous society, which means anything social liberalism prones.
Charles Sanchez
Just make logical arguments. Unfortunately you probably can't do that so you're going to struggle, and ironically what you're saying applies to the left far more, especially being emotionally driven so you're probably just another deceitful leftist LARPing
Eli Jackson
It’s because the things the left wing say are pointless. They preach diversity and immigration and then move away from diverse neighborhoods. They shit in other people’s nests and get to walk the high moral ground at the same time. The main difference between the right and left wing is that right wingers will be honest about not liking multiculturalism while left wingers will say they support it even while they’re packing their stuff up to move into a different school catchment area
Brandon Harris
>nobody is entitled to anything sure, in a literal or philosophical case or whatever, but I feel like it should be a birth-right of a strong nation to provide for it's people, and I think the problems only start once abuse of the welfare system occurs and when not enough people are paying into it, which is why I would demand stricter rules on welfare and attempts to collect tax from all citizens, otherwise the country would be fucked.
Immigration adds to this, but it is not even one of the main issue to me, it is the lack of efficiency of the state, at this moment.
Charles Flores
Okay what do you want to discuss?
Jace Rodriguez
nothing right now.
Easton Myers
ah shut the fuck up cuck
Brayden James
both sides do that
e.g. if you dare to say so much as you voted for the current republican president of the united states most of the left will just say "I dont talk to racists"
humans were already retards who just blindly copy what their in-group says but 2010s internet clickbait culture has promoted nothing but further and further extremism
Evan Sullivan
...
Liam Carter
Then stop whining, Sup Forums isn't just one person. We don't agree on everything. We shitpost and banter. This is post is useless.
Samuel Bailey
How will a nation remain strong when the people do not contribute to the economy?
Dominic Wright
i really agree 100% i find it retarded that people automatically dislike anyone that says they're a trump supporter, like your politics is all that you are to them. i'm not a trump supporter, but i don't not talk to people that are. i think it's dumb to just limit what you hear to only people that agree with you
Oliver Jackson
> the purpose of protest is to disrupt ability to discuss
It wasn't right-wingers who said this.
> in all fields
Austin Howard
It's funny because this line of thinking is the reason the far right doesn't bother conversing with the left. They gave up explaining reality to you cucks long ago.
Adrian Peterson
>How will a nation remain strong when the people do not contribute to the economy? Exactly, I want people to contribute, I want to round up taxes from people and punish traitors to my freedom and nation by enslaving them in prison and to take their assets.
Joshua Sanchez
>flustered goy
maybe reddit is more your speed
Jayden Barnes
>Strong Nation >Providing for its people Don't confuse a centralised socialist State and a nation. A strong nation is as strong as the multilateral relationship between its communities. By having a provider provide without the provided doing anything in return, that's a one way relationship. The people become the slave of the State. A nation cannot be bound to a state. By definition the nation is the people, while state is a system made to regulate the interior and exterior affairs of the country it represents.
Charles Hughes
>le ebil natzees Wew
Adam Smith
It's pointless. They will believe whatever they want to believe no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. Just listen to Donald Trump telling people that the pussy tape recording was fake despite everyone being able to hear his voice on it. Conservatives all live in a bubble of delusion.
Sebastian Brown
Sure, call it what you want, I prefer to have a centalised state to manage the population in order to allow a foundation of a "free" and just society.
Gabriel Morgan
>It is just futile at this point to talk to the fucking nazis and other radicals on this site
Why the fuck are you on for-cham looking for discourse? Are you fucking retarded?
Blake Adams
Just ignore the nazis, it's better for the libertarian ideology if we just ignore all statists and only talk about the NAP at all times no matter what
Luke Russell
ITT: "hurr durrr you called me a nazi, you're an SJW"
Also ITT: "hurrr durrr gas the kikes fuck niggers lelelele"
I have never heard a smart or intellectual right winger
Thomas Howard
At least the left will talk to you and joke around. Right wingers are all super serious and if you don't agree with the they call you a commie
Jose Cruz
OP just painted me as a caricature of a typical National socialist with a lot of things that I don’t even identify with.
Samuel Jones
SOYBOY
Logan Lewis
How are people paying taxes when the government gives them handouts to live?
Benjamin Johnson
Is not paying the money you worked for to the government who will partially just redistribute it to druggies and shitskins really a crime worthy of enslavement? It sounds like the choice you present is to be slaves to the subhumans with a jumpsuit or without one. Just let productive people have their money.
Your problem is that you are greedy and want other people's money and disguise it as being against greedy people. Who is more greedy? The person who wants to keep their money or the person who wants to take someone else?
Hudson Johnson
Mark Twain — 'Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.'
Connor Walker
"Antisemitic" is a bullshit word used to trigger an emotional response and shut down discussion. renegadetribune.com/weaponized-language/ When are you goyim going to wise up?
I think we may have located the reason why you are having trouble with the whole discourse thing. Just a hunch though.
Adrian Williams
>Your problem is that you are greedy and want other people's money and disguise it as being against greedy people. Who is more greedy? The person who wants to keep their money or the person who wants to take someone else? I explained that I want to have more resrictive measures on welfare availability to prevent such abuse of the system from occuring, I am not some idiot crypto-socialist.
Samuel Roberts
>sensationalist drivel, the post
Julian Thomas
>I want to round up taxes from people and punish traitors to my freedom and nation by enslaving them in prison and to take their assets.
wow how 'liberal' of you lmbo
Nolan Green
"I never considered myself a fall guy. I know what I did. I know why I did it. I'm not ashamed of it." - Oliver North
Henry Ward
In any case, why is it the responsibility of the productive to provide welfare to the unproductive? Sure people should pay taxes if they'd like the services they have access to but welfare, unless you plan to be on it, is extraneous and if you don't want to pay into it then you should be allowed to without that much of a consequence.
You say that a nation has an obligation to take care of people but why is this? I can see how it exists out of the system where politicians need to please people but from any sort of philosophical point of view this is simply retarded because a country with an unsatisfactory government should fix itself. Basically, any country is always going to have the government it deserves.
Benjamin Sanchez
>non-argument, the post
Matthew Ramirez
So we've got that in common, then.
Wyatt Anderson
Not an argument
Jack Stewart
>better not say what exactly i believe cuz it's complete bullshit
Levi Ortiz
>non-argument, the post
Connor Green
>thinking he's going to get serious and meaningful debate on Sup Forums >thinks his opinions are worth humoring when he cries about "shitskins" and hyperbolic claims of jail, misrepresentation of taxation as theft and subjugation >thinks this doesn't show he's an angsty 16 year old faggot
Cuck nigger faggot XD kek!!
Mason Lee
I'll take the b8, America is a special case but fir regular countries i look at my country men as my brothers why wouldn't i work towards their uplifment, you will never find a poor sikh because of this exact reason they help the poor and uplift them, it isn't gibs it's showing your support for your country men, individualism is a false prophet we have to. Advance as a species not one individual at a time
Grayson Edwards
Do you: >Listen, or just wait for a pause to deliver a speech? >Want to take ten minutes to give a speech before asking a question, then interrupt when somebody answers? >Name call? >Insult their intelligence? >Get angry? >Become condescending? >Change the topic when you don’t have an answer? >Get defensive when you’re asked questions?
Be honest...
Lucas Rogers
The freedom you're describing is an illusion. The problem with that Logic is that we constantly execute lifechanging decisions and that, as much as they'd like to, they cannot change that. The freedom to have a choice is proven throught Descartes' cogito, meaning that freedom, while not a right, is simply a proven factor of human behavior. That freedom must extend toward individual independance, inevitably, and eventually topple all things inhibiting that freedom, including governments, economical systems, etc. Communism, the U. S. S. R. and before that authoritarian monarchies fell because of that, and the current oligarchs behind the democracies in the West are making the same mistake.
